Steam Box, Oculus Rift will define next-gen, says Bleszinski

Former Epic Games design director says he is more interested in "disruptive" technology than Xbox One or PlayStation 4.

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Valve's Steam Box and the Oculus Rift virtual reality headset will define next-generation gaming, not the Xbox One or PlayStation 4. That's according to former Epic Games design director Cliff Bleszinski, who told [a]listdaily that he is more interested in "disruptive" technology than traditional platforms.

"Things like the Steam Box and the Oculus Rift, honestly," Bleszinski said when asked what he thinks will define next-generation gaming. "I'm friends with a lot of folks in Microsoft. Microsoft has been very good to me throughout my career. I'm friends with the folks at Sony. But when I think about my gamer instincts and where I'm going to see a lot of the most disruptive and innovative gaming I don't see it in the $250 million budgeted game that cost $100 million to market."

Bleszinski said when budgets reach this level, the amount of risk developers and publishers take on "decreases exponentially."

"I was more excited about playing games like Gone Home than any console release. I am thoroughly excited to dive into Grand Theft Auto V, but it's sitting on my desk looking like War and Peace to me right now," Bleszinski said. "I'm going to have to clear out a good two weeks of doing nothing in order to just deep dive into it. In the meantime I’m on my Nintendo DS and I'm on my laptop playing Steam games. I got to fire up Two Brothers and I finished Thomas Was Aloneand Gone Home."

Despite his enthusiasm for "disruptive" technology surpassing his interest in traditional consoles, Bleszinski said he is still planning to buy an Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

"I don't know if it's because I'm rubber banding and rebelling against my AAA background, but I will buy a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox One," he said. "Am I more excited for that than the Rift and Steam? I think Sony and Microsoft are going to do just fine and it's a known entity. A known entity is not that exciting to me. It’s the disruptive things that are exciting to me."

Bleszinski left Epic Games in October after 20 years. Since leaving the company, Bleszinski has visited the offices of Activision, Zynga, Double Fine, and Electronic Arts. He has also met with God of War and Twisted Metal designer David Jaffe and been courted by Ubisoft.

Discussion

411 comments
Utahraptor_
Utahraptor_

I wouldn't mind seeing more good games that prioritizes gameplay ahead of special effects.

SopranosFan
SopranosFan

So Cliffy considering you are a known entity does that mean you are irrelevant?

noandno
noandno

Who the hell is this guy anyway?

Buck_Swaggler
Buck_Swaggler

Why do they always use this same glam-shot of Cliff?

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

Good because I think PC is the way to go from now on.  With the lack of limitations PC's have compared to consoles, it is definitely the time to switch over.  Plus neither system has me excited.  I might MAYBE get one of the controllers to use for my PC games, other than that...I can wait until the system prices go down a few hundred first...

FTB_Screamer
FTB_Screamer

So what this moron is saying is "PC" will define next-gen. Because that is what a SteamBox is! 

Supertoast_GT
Supertoast_GT

They'll define what we should avoid for next gen. People want to enjoy their sexy high-def TVs. Not put on another device and worry about it's batteries or complexity. The steambox controller is terrible. No analog sticks, and the buttons are placed all wrong. Haptic feedback is NOT real buttons.

peteyboi29
peteyboi29

i think the customers will define the next generation :D like they have defined every single generation, and every genre, and every walk of life were there is some thing to be bought !!! 


spikepigeo
spikepigeo

Why does GS have such a hard-on for this has-been? I could care less what he thinks anymore. Please stop reporting on him. Thanks.

bloody-hell
bloody-hell

I don't really see this Oculus Rift becoming a "thing".

Can you explain to me why I would want to wear a mask with 2 tiny low res monitors 2 cm in front of my eyes and get dizzy within 5 seconds, lose balance and feel like I have to puke and become extremely nearsighted real quick and need glasses, all while being unable to "play" for more than 5 minutes at a time ?

I'd rather keep playing using a monitor and if I need that full body awareness I'll strap on my TrackIR for free head movement.

I think it's just not for everyone and not the "future of gaming", it's just an optional piece of hardware so these people shouldn't talk like this is the one and only thing that's been used for gaming in the future.

tightwad34
tightwad34

How can they define next-gen when they haven't been around for any generation? Please. Spare me Cliff, you sound like a hipster.

Auriken
Auriken

I'm a PC gamer and Cliff has treated our gaming community like shit for years. The amount of regard I give to this man's opinion is on par with the amount of regard he's had toward PC gaming in general over the years.

Cliff, I am a PC gamer and not a pirate. Piracy also exists on consoles, and as to be a matter of fact I've seen leaked copies of console games appear on the internet weeks and even months faster than the PC version even when they have the same release date.

I'm pointing this out because you've been treating the PC community like a bunch of thieves for over half a decade now. Go to hell.

JBStone1981
JBStone1981

I doubt Steam Box is going to have a very large install base, but the Oculus Rift really could become the next big thing. 

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

Uh.. NO they WON'T.  Why the fuck would I want to sit around with a apir of clunky goggles on my face to play a damn game when I can just use my monitor?  And as for steambox, I don't get why you wouldn't just get a decent PC that can do a shit tonne more than the steam "ing pile of shit" box.  And before you people spout "oh but the prices are way different" even so you can do way more with a pc than you can with steam box?

AM-Gamer
AM-Gamer

More lazy ass devs wanting platforms that support low budget crap to be successful.

Agentbling
Agentbling

Super cool story Cliff.  What about a few months ago when you said mobile gaming was the future of gaming?  I happen to agree that the Steam Machine has great potential, but give it a rest.  Does anyone care what this guy says anymore?

rarson
rarson

Cliff has blown his share of hot air, but this time I absolutely agree with him. There are a few reasons why I'm excited for the new generation of consoles, but overall, I'm far more excited about Steam Machines and Oculus Rift and anything that has the potential to really push gaming towards the edge of the box.

xSagez
xSagez

We define next-gen. They just create options.

Tat77
Tat77

Why all the hate? I think he's right. I'm far, far more excited for the Oculus than the PS4 or XONE. It's going to be ridiculous and change everything. 

Master_Turismo
Master_Turismo

I like Cliffy's way of thinking on some topics. However overall his behavior towards the industry and the consumer is utterly disgusting.

Utahraptor_
Utahraptor_

A well-written story is also important for me.

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

@Buck_Swaggler Logic would suggest because they have it. Why go and get another picture? Waste of time and resources.

UltimateBastard
UltimateBastard

I'm fairly sceptical about the steam machine controller but wouldn't make such comments as "terrible" until I've actually used it

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

@spikepigeo So you express your opinion only to say that you don't want to hear someone else express their's? What's the point of you, then?Personally, I don't care for your sentiments and I'd rather read the opinion of someone who worked in the industry for 20 years than yourself, who just comes across as... pointless. Or maybe I just missed the meeting where it was agreed that you can make decisions on behalf of all site users? No? Then shut up.

By the way, it's "I couldn't care less". What you put infers the opposite of the intention.

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

@tightwad34 And the award for Completely Missing The Meaning Of A Statement goes to TightWad. Bonus moron points for derogatory use of "hipster". Go to the back of the line.

argonath77
argonath77

@Auriken Yes i have visited some countries and saw many leaked copies of console games  , even people sell it in sidewalks , so when you walk in sidewalks you can buy a copy of console games .

Printul_Noptii
Printul_Noptii

@Auriken yeah I am still mad that Gears of War 2-3 was never released on the PC and I remember him saying back then that  and I quote

"The person who is savvy enough to want to have a good PC to upgrade their video card, is a person who is savvy enough to know [BitTorrent] to know all the elements so they can pirate software,"

Seriously ? lol

RedLegZeff
RedLegZeff

@JBStone1981 The thing is, steambox doesn't need a large install base. It's basically a way for pc gaming to invade the mainstream console market. They're trying to offer all the benefits of pc gaming, in an easy to get into package.

oflow
oflow

@JBStone1981 depends on the cost of the box.  A lot of ppl want to get into pc gaming but dont actually like building rigs.

these are the specs on the beta boxes they are giving away:

The 300 prototype units will ship with the following components: 
GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660 
CPU: some boxes with Intel i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3 
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB GDDR5 (GPU) 
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD 
Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold 
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 in high 

Considering Steam has millions on users and probably quite a few that are playing on older rigs, they could potentially sell a lot more units than you think.

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

@xeoneex66 Yeah, 'cos you speak for everyone. If you don't like it that's cool, don't use it. But don't declare on behalf of everyone.

BrassBullet
BrassBullet

@AM-Gamer Look at Star Citizen and what they think they will be able to do for 20-30 million.  Do you think they are lazy?  Do you think their work is crap?

Look at the film industry and how many steaming piles come out of $100 million budgets.   At these levels cost vs quality are increasingly un-related, and innovation indirectly related.  Given that the gaming industry has failed to increase in market size for several of the past few years, the tendency for big budget games means fewer games in the mid-range budget wise.  This is what has led to the bland, big-budget sequel, and the plethora of casual games.

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@Tat77 actually take away the "and change everything" and you have the truth

kiramasaki
kiramasaki

@Tat77 I cant speak for others, but my main problem is this guy went and helped create a great series like Gears. But now he just sits on his laurels, seemingly does nothing, and just kindly randomly chimes in on random subjects every now and then to keep his name in the press.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@Shanks_D_Chop Shanks, what got into you? You always seem so easy going. Ah well, I'll just go rub one out and then everything will be better.

bzrigger
bzrigger

@Printul_Noptii @Auriken I believe there is a perception that PC gamer's pirate games because of the idiots that brag about it on gaming sites. For example, a quote from a PC gamer that as of this post, is not more than 2 hours old, on extremetech: "When it comes out for PC, I will pirate it and play it some more..."

The poster was speaking about GTA V coming out on PC.

It's always unfortunate that the few ruin things for the many.

BigBossWato
BigBossWato

@oflow @JBStone1981 Realistically the Steam Box needs to come in at a $600 starting point for a basic model to have a decent Install base otherwise the average consumer won't even consider it an option even if they want to break into PC gaming, especially when there are console for less.

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@JackOmally1342 @xeoneex66 Ok, I'll go along with that, I'm simple minded for a simple concept.  Why make all the complex unnecessary bullshit to play a video game?  I don't need the "Pii-U mote", or a clunky goggle to enjoy a video game.  In fact I cannot, CANNOT, stand 3d period.  It was a fad in the 80's early 90's that shoulda STAYED in the 80's early 90's.  Now everything is 3d this, 3d that, now virtual reality again?  If they haven't noticed that fad died before it even began.  It should've stayed that way.

So yes, I think simply, for a simple concept that doesn't need all that extra garbage.  I will say though, direct download of games vs buying them in a store is much better but thats hardly the same thing.

rarson
rarson

@kiramasaki

That's fine, but you realize that your argument is a logical fallacy, right? I mean, what the guy is currently doing has absolutely no bearing on whether his statements are valid or not.

HartPuncher
HartPuncher

@kiramasaki @Tat77 Um... He is Epic games. He is Unreal and Gears. He made the Unreal 3 engine that gave way to Gears. 

Tat77
Tat77

@kiramasaki @Tat77 So why does that that matter? People are blinded by their opinion on the person. If someone says something that's true you can't just be like "well i think they're dumb so they're wrong"

BrassBullet
BrassBullet

@xeoneex66
You are the one that started your original post with an F-bomb and I'm the troll?  Oculus is the future.  You don't have to like it, you don't have to embrace it, but don't be surprised when you look like a grandpa shaking your cane at the kids having fun outside.

BrassBullet
BrassBullet

@xeoneex66 @BrassBullet @JackOmally1342 I don't know why you need 3D acceleration though, videogames were fine with Pac-Man, Mario.  Damn Wolfenstein comes out and then its all 3D this and that.  Makes me sick.  And what's up with this Stereo Vision?  I've got one eye and that's the way I like it!