Star Wars: KOTOR 3 Still Interests "a Lot of People" at Obsidian

No firm plans are in place, but the prospect of a new Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic has been discussed at the second game's developer.

It's far from an indication that such a game will ever be made, but a number of employees at Obsidian Entertainment continue to be interested in making a third game in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series. Speaking with IGN, Obsidian's Josh Sawyer says, "I think there are a lot of the people at the studio that would like to do Knights of the Old Republic 3."

That's a statement that's sure to grab fans' attention given that it's been almost a full decade since Obsidian released Knights of the Old Republic II in 2004. Sawyer explains that, with LucasArts previously being "focused on what they considered to be extreme, extreme blockbusters," that didn't leave much room for KotOR and its awkward-looking acronym to get a new entry.

In light of LucasArts' past focus, Sawyer says, "[I]t just never seemed like something that was going to happen at that time. Having said that, a lot of time has passed. I know there are a lot of people at the studio who are really interested in doing a project like that."

The prospect of making a new KotOR continues to be discussed at Obsidian, producer Brandon Adler says, but that doesn't mean any formal plans for such a game have been laid out. "It's something that comes up every three to six months," Adler says. "We bring it up and talk about it. Not anything terribly serious, but we just say, 'Wouldn't it be cool if?' and just develop some ideas for what we'd do with that stuff."

EA signed a multiyear deal to produce Star Wars games last year, so any KotOR game would likely need to be published by it. Another wrinkle: Lucasfilm announced in April that, going forward, all Star Wars content will be canonical, including games. That means the plot of a new KotOR game would have to fit into the overall Star Wars story--it can't be a side "Expanded Universe" story like in the past.

Prior to either of those developments, Obsidian CEO Feargus Urquhart revealed that the studio had pitched the idea of a new Star Wars RPG set between Episode III and Episode IV. The pitch was made to LucasArts, but as of early last year had not yet been discussed with Disney, which acquired Lucasfilm (and, by extension, LucasArts and the Star Wars franchise) in 2012. Sawyer and Adler--both of which are currently working on Pillars of Eternity--indicated they were unaware of where that project stands.

There has been little official news on the KotOR front in recent years. BioWare's original game was re-released on iPad last year (where it plays surprisingly well), and fans have continued to work on a long-in-development, unofficial mod that restores incomplete content that was left out of KotOR II by Obsidian.

EA has at least two Star Wars games in the works: Star Wars: Battlefront from Battlefield maker DICE and one from Dead Space developer Visceral Games that is rumored to be an open-world game. We learned this week that Battlefront's release will not necessarily coincide with the launch of Episode VII next year.

If it's ever made, what would you like to see from Knights of the Old Republic 3, meatbags? Let us know in the comments.

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toophat2014
toophat2014

Would love to see kotor 3 instead of the disaster that the new battlefront is looking out to be. It's basically being developed by the same people that have continued to mess up the battlefield titles so how can anyone expect them to do any justice or right by battlefront really lol. EA should have at very least let bioware do battlefront instead of dice then maybe it could have had a chance to be something more then original battlefront instead of less like it looks to be atm and I really doubt I will be proven wrong but it's looking like another online only money grab title full of the usual microtransactions put out by EA and not looking near as good as the original in terms of amount of content and playabilty original had both online and offline.

arc_salvo
arc_salvo

It would be nice to see a KOTOR 3.  SWTOR never really sucked me in that much, the MMO trappings killed the RPG side for me.

toophat2014
toophat2014

As much as I love SWTOR as an MMO I would love and much rather have a KOTOR 3 the game that's for sure because MMOs just ain't the same or like any AAA title or even normal title period no matter RPG or otherwise and honestly and that's why I have always looked at and judged Swtor as an MMO and for an MMO bioware did pretty well getting it close to delivering AAA gaming experience in an MMO both gameplay and story wise that's for sure compared to any other MMO period no matter how much I would have preffered a KOTOR 3 instead.

chronocommander
chronocommander

There's a lot of great stories as games/comics/novels/guides in the expanded universe, shame to see it eliminated because of episode VII (the latter looks promising so far). It would be great to see the EU continue existing as a separate universe with its own canon. White Wolf did it with its World of Darkness RPG book series where they ended their main universe, rebooted it and a ten year anniversary updated re-release led to further releases as part of the old world. The new one continues running normally for White Wolf and it all works out. I suspect something similar may happen with Star Wars but it will probably take many years. The EU had several complaints of having become a cluttered convoluted mess but based on what I've experience myself and am reading up on Star Wars wiki it is very well made, no reason why KOTOR3 can't be made. Worst case just reboot it in the current universe, but that would involve re-creating and re-introducing everything and everyone, which would loose part of the appeal - still better than no KOTOR though.

revanimmortal
revanimmortal

My hope is whenever a Canon Kotor story is made via game or even a remake of Kotor 1, is that they'll completely ignore/scrap the events of SW:TOR.  I still loved the gameplay in both Kotor games and loved the powers and everything the only changes I'd make are....first....Revan is surely strong enough to take out a Krayt Dragon and not use a darn mine trap, I mean in Star Wars Galaxies you could "farm" kill Krayt Dragons solo as a nobody.   2nd change would be in the first fight with Malak on the Leviathan, I always pretended and enjoyed the idea of instead of being stasis'd by Malak he instead destroys your lightsaber having you use a new one. ( Pretty much first half of the game I used blue saber then after that duel I use green. )


Pretty sure it isn't just me but waiting till the very end to finally get Revan's robes that...aren't even his full robes  kinda was a disappointment, and having them white for lightside also irritated me slightly, sure you should have a lightside bonus if your set as light but changing that look from super awesome?!  Keep the appearance the same please.


Those are the only "changes" would love them "adding" saber forms like we had in the 2nd game changing your lightsaber moves and how effective you were engaging blaster fire and switching it up when going saber vs saber. 

vla
vla

@revanimmortal Yes, the existence of SW: TOR destroyed the chance of KotOR 3 to fit into SW Universe smoothly.  But if new Episodes already will scrap EU, then why not to do this again with KotOR 3. EU scraps EU, heh.

jjleshko90
jjleshko90

Makes sense; it interests a lot of gamers in general...

willister21
willister21

It would be sweet if you did an RPG with similar gameplay to the Elder Scroll or even Mass Effect console games and based the sorry mode during the Mandalorian Wars. You could be Revan, Malak, Meetra Surik, or even a new awesome character since not much information is told about the Mandalorian Wars in great detail. I feel like it could be fairly easy to create a story line and it has potential for awesome cinematics/cutscenes. All in all, if you could make another KOTOR, I think this would be the period to place the story in. And if making a new one isn't possible, then I agree with whoever said revamping the first two games for these new gen consoles (and possibly adding some DLC would be cool). Bunjie has just fine that with the Matter Chief Halo series and it's awesome.

Xpyder
Xpyder

not obsidian please, give it back to bioware! For starters, release an HD remake for KotOR on current gen, that would be awesome!

joesguy
joesguy

@Xpyder Lol yeah right. Let's take Kotor away from a development team that still writes excellent stories in gaming and give it to a company that hasn't made a worthwhile RPG since Mass Effect 1. Great idea.

Runeweaver
Runeweaver

@Xpyder Obsidian make great Rpgs, the only problem with Kotor2 was they were forced to release it early so it wasnt complete, if they are given enough time like Fallout new vegas they put so much more into their games than developers like Bioware.

Hero6_basic
Hero6_basic

I really like obsidian. In fact they are probably better than bioware now since ea acquisition

ChevLss
ChevLss

Might happen but doubt it. Hate to say it but there is a better chance with the Disney buyout. Lucasarts seemed to hate something popular and money making. How else do you explain no Battlefront III until they were disintegrated? EA and Disney would be wise letting Obsidian do another. They handled Fallout:New Vegas well, which is all I have to go on since I never owned KOTOR 2. Would be better by far than majority of the episode I-III tie-ins I'm sure!
 Only 3 of those worth a shit I know of. If Battlefront I & II count.

van_funel
van_funel

It would have been so good if the ending of kotor MMO would be online char helping Revan killing the emperor and sinking hundreds of battle ships and killing the emperor that has a massive dark Jedi armies on hes back vs Revan and Online char. If that was the ending story online i would be willing to paying 1K(1000canadian dollars) on That kind of MMO.


I mean they new how kotor 1 & 2 was a big hit and reason MMO existed was because of kotor 1 & 2 why they fuck the main heroes in kotor 1 & 2 why3x.


Sorry about the swearing

Hero6_basic
Hero6_basic

Tor was a big mistake that could be seen from a mile away. Execs wanted people to pay a monthly fee. It is not a gym membership it's a freaking game

van_funel
van_funel

Heres the truth about how i feel about star wars movie I thought star wars was good but overrated but when i played Kotor 1 & 2 i feel so a shamed for thinking that it was over rated kotor 1 & 2 made me a big star wars fan. Sorry guys it was not star wars movie made me a big crazy fan it was Kotor 1 & 2 that made me a big fan on star wars movies. But B4 they made Kotor MM0 i was very exited and after it released the story of what happen to revan I just felt like chocking who ever made that stupid MMO story i was so ready on investing on Kotor MMO but after how they made a fool of Revan & jedi Exile i just want to shit on bioware and EA. Who ever fucking thought of making a game FUCKING the previous main characters CANT they think that It is Fucking bad to make a game about fucking previous char so that their new char can have a spot light.

Why cant they make a MMO story that doesn't involve in fucking the previous main heroes. like the movies in the end it was Vader who killed the emperor not Luke. Very SORRY about the swearing im just so mad about EA and bioware. 

Obsidian pls make KOTOR 3 i don't care about cannon or not i will believe what ever you guys make.

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

It's really a very simple solution: reboot the franchise. Re-tell the story on the current gen systems, and then you have the license to make a 3rd. EA and Disney could team up on it, I'm sure.

robotten75957
robotten75957

i dont get why people whould like to play a game of a story they have already seen in the synema disney is retarded


kingofsquid
kingofsquid

*cinema. Judging by your nonexistent logic and horrendous spelling, you probably weren't old enough to remember when KOTOR came out.

robotten75957
robotten75957

It is one of the best games out there. Disney with their tiny mouse dick is going to fuck this up tho. Since they even denounced the most the story .

BranKetra
BranKetra moderator moderator

Disney wants to control the entire Star Wars galaxy. Good luck.

suavebrahhh
suavebrahhh

can someone explain to me why they won't approve kotor 3? when I was a kid playing kotor 1 and kotor 2 was absolutely AMAZING, and I still consider kotor my favorite game.. even got me more addicted into star wars. did it not do good on the market or something that it keeps getting rejected?

qfgfan
qfgfan

@suavebrahhh I'd say it more likely that The Old Republic MMO has kind of overshadowed the possibility of there being a KOTOR III sad but probably true.

Diesel95
Diesel95

@qfgfan @suavebrahhh Not True at all #1. it takes place almost  500+ year since KOTOR 2


#2. its not offical KOTOR cannon


#3 even if it was you dont play AS reven in the game at all and only vaugly hear about his/her stories so there is an excellent chance to use  a 3 4 54 if they wanted to.

kingofsquid
kingofsquid

There is no "vaguely" about it. You have to kill an insane Revan in one story. The Exile from 2 is confirmed to be dead. And it is canon, it is made by the same company that made the first KOTOR.

TEOL222
TEOL222

@kingofsquid How about a new character instead of revan? Would be refreshing, just played through 2 (3rd time), and Im halfway through 1 (2nd time) now. I would love something totally new:)

Hero6_basic
Hero6_basic

Quest for glory fan? Me too I didn't think that there existed anymore.

Luis_Gamer
Luis_Gamer

Why all these rules.  People would eat up a new KOTOR with a brand new interesting world and story. The first two KOTORs were so originals and actually made people greater Star Wars fans! It seems hopeless for the third to be as original as the last two but I can keep dreaming!

suavebrahhh
suavebrahhh

@Luis_Gamer  Exactly.. Idk why there are so many rules against it.. It had one of the best storylines in the world and it redefined the concept of role  playing (I shat my pants when I could partake in the conversations and go dark or light depending on my answers... fuark so hot)

chrisleemiller
chrisleemiller

Please make Kotor 3 and a HD remake of kotor1 and kotor2 thanks

chrisleemiller
chrisleemiller

Please make this game the mmo star wars the old republic was a bad game so please make the Kotor 3 it been to long and make a HD remake of the first and second Kotor thanks

kumakun1981
kumakun1981

Actually the mmo isn't bad if you come back and give it a chance. People gave up on it too early.

kumakun1981
kumakun1981

That is not even scratching the surface of an mmo. However if you don't like the time investment that a mmo involves try the 12x exp with just the class quest it flows just like any other bio ware game I've played.

kumakun1981
kumakun1981

60 hours is nothing in an mmo. That is just breaking the surface if that. Now with the 12x exp though you can play just story quest and it flows more smoothly for those that don't like the mmo feel or investment into their character and the world around them.

van_funel
van_funel

@kumakun1981 I was gonna play kotor MMO i was very very exited when it came out but the way how they rape revan and jedi exile no matter how good the game play i just cant get my self to like it. I tried my best to like it but i just cant i feel so bad about Revan and the enemy got defeated by Revan and exile it makes them so weak. every time i see kotor mmo i just wanna shoot the person who made that crappy story. I was so willing to invest everything on Kotor MMO but why2x they made a fool out of Revan and Exile

kumakun1981
kumakun1981

@van_funel @kumakun1981 I've tried to post a long extended replay twice that has been lost by this cite so I won't write it again.  However they have not done anything to Revan.  If you play out the storyline you will see.  However I hope there is more content coming because it doesn't really solve anything.  That being said you have to remember the entire point of MMO's is to make your character feel important and accomplished that can't happen if they are always over shadowed by a Revan or Exile.  SWtoR is about your characters not anything else and the sooner you accept that the better off you are.  Revan is nothing but a tool to compare your character too nothing more nothing less. 

Hero6_basic
Hero6_basic

I thought it was about extracting money from your bank account. Basically a gambling simulator.

t-16
t-16

Make this damn game already! I've been waiting 10 years!

rufusamatrix
rufusamatrix

Something is really, really wrong with the second pic...!

lando423
lando423

Every body wants it just fricken make it. You will have a better return on investment than making a 200 million dollar mmo

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

I stomached it back when I was in High School... but the battle system in KoToR was incredibly awful.

If they put a battle system in it that was more based in real time and button-to-action systems... then it would be worth it. But as it stands I can't even play those old ones because that combat was just SO BAD. Which is a shame because the rest of it was so incredibly good.

Thank god for Jedi Academy.

kingofsquid
kingofsquid

"I don't like it so it's bad!" Dragon Age had the same style; Dragon Age 2 did as you are suggesting and everyone hated it.

Hero6_basic
Hero6_basic

Perhaps Jedi Knight 2 and kotor mixed together.

darktruth007
darktruth007

Who the hell is this editor calling a meatbag. Last time I checked "meatbag" was a derogatory term - in this case I guess the editor is using it to making fun of us for liking the game. Someone should teach this guy what "manners" are - I guess the editor learned his from HK-47.

j0rd14
j0rd14

After what they did with Fallout: New Vegas I would buy KOTOR3 first day.