Star Citizen crosses $15 million

Crowdfunding campaign for Chris Roberts' PC space simulator reaches new milestone; "It's unbelievable," says developer.

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Chris Roberts' all-new PC space sim Star Citizen, already the most crowdfunded project of all time, has hit a new milestone. The game's crowdfunding campaign has reached $15 million, up from $14 million in under a month.

At press time, funding for Star Citizen stands at $15,009,504 from 220,351 backers.

"It's unbelievable," reads an update on the game's website. "Star Citizen fans have helped us reach the $15 million mark without any special promotion. Ten years ago, big publishers decided space games weren’t profitable… and you are proving them very, very wrong."

The $15 million mark unlocks another flyable ship class to the game and a 42-page digital Upgrade Handbook manual, which details the process of customizing and overclocking ships.

The game's previously announced $16 million stretch goal is for an Arena mode, described as the next generation of Wing Commander's TrainSim and not a PvP game. In addition, if funding for Star Citizen reaches this level, every backer will received a laser pistol.

If funding for Star Citizen reaches $17 million, the developer said, every pledger will receive an ship upgrade containing an engine modifier and the battlecruiser ship class.

Star Citizen has been in development at Cloud Imperium Games for more than a year. The game itself includes a "sophisticated storyline" that is set in a persistent online universe.

According to Roberts, it will fuse elements of his previous games, Wing Commander and Freelancer. Support for the virtual reality headset Oculus Rift is planned.

Star Citizen is expected to release in late 2014.

Discussion

281 comments
Tychobrahi
Tychobrahi

I hope they budget their game to support future content. This is a shit load of $$$ more than enough for a sequel in due time. 

danabrion
danabrion

Want to see the public lynch if this guy dont deliver all that promised, 15 million bucks in founding... risky, risky...

hadlee73
hadlee73

"Ten years ago, big publishers decided space games weren’t profitable..." That's because Chris Roberts stopped making them around that time :P

Sorciere_basic
Sorciere_basic

People are so desperately starved for a space sim that they are throwing huge amounts of money at this.

I personally don't like these MMO-ish games that have transactions. 

I want a completed product on day one that isn't blocking 95% of the content behind a transaction wall.

pooya_gojee
pooya_gojee

I hate this idea : if we cant reach 17 milion $ you wont see this battle cruiser

i hope if in any case they didn't reach to stretch goals they say : OK lets not tell the gamers and just put that extra battle-cruiser in game

or : hey folks we put battlecruiser because ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Zloth2
Zloth2

OK folks could you stop paying them now??  I would like to see this game come out before 2015!

Fursnake
Fursnake

Once this game comes out I can finally get off the crack because I will have something to replace it with!

McMuffin9000
McMuffin9000

People are gonna expect big things from this game. I hope it delivers.

Revl8n
Revl8n

The Wing Commander games were all awesome.  Looking forward to Roberts' new game more than anything since Fallout 3.

Treadstone71
Treadstone71

"Ten years ago, big publishers decided space games weren’t profitable… and you are proving them very, very wrong."

This has me thinking - because if we all shelled out $50 on kickstarter for this game, I don't think they'd be at $15M.  I've personally given $150 so far.  The publishers are looking at these 'classic' genres from a pure bean counter perspective: at $50 a box we will only make X, never stopping to consider how much most of us love these games and would happily shell out twice that (or more) for a AAA modern version of our beloved classics.

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

So how much of that money is actually going on the game development?

Darkwalker75
Darkwalker75

@Tychobrahi 

No its not enough for a sequel, its not even enough to finish the game.

They said they need at least $21 million to make the game.

Just making 1 ship cost them anywhere from $35.000-$150.000 depending on size, and so far they have revealed almost 20 ships.

In case they do not get everything from crowd funding they do have outside investors lined up who can provide the rest

As for making a sequel, like with most other MMOs there will not be any sequel, instead there will be content updates and expansions.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

@danabrion ya theres simply no way he could deliver on even half of his promises.  He only received 15 mil, not 150 mil so hes only got so much time and resources to work with while promising the kitchen sink.

Im still excited for this game, and plan on picking it up, but I think all of us here have been hurt before and need to expect a real world product not the holy grail.

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@danabrion That's not actually that much, it's just the most anyone's ever *crowd* funded. So what you're saying is no different than saying that any developer of a well funded but poorly received game should be lynched, which is absurd.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@Sorciere_basic 

And what is exactly being blocked behind the transaction wall? Every ship is available ingame for you to get for free.

harndoogle
harndoogle

@pooya_gojee no, you will probably. See, most of those things are going to appear in the game anyways.  Its more like, you guys are paying for this, not some corporate investor.  its a little complex how the crowdfunding is working for this. Its not like the other kickstarter projects.  if you want, go to the website and read about it. it will make more sense then.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

@Zloth2 lol well I hate to disappoint you but don't be disappointed if this game isn't out by early 2016 either.

this game is no where near ready and wont be for a long long time.

danabrion
danabrion

@Zloth2 

I put a comment simmilar when they reached 5 millions, someone commented that the goal its 22 millions, so relax and wait for it sometime after... i dont know... Avengers 7

Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

@ElPipita If you mean Alien Races then yes there will be Aliens in the game and not just like other games that have other creatures that look exactly like humans . This game is real deal you know . As for combat this is more about Flying your ship and engaging in space combat , or going on Planet Surfaces and destroy bases etc like Wing Commander but there will be moments when you'll be able to land the ship and explore the area on planets or asteroids etc to get missions in Freelancer / Mass Effect style . There are more than 100 star systems in this game .

Game will offer you choices in Wing Commander style and those choices affect your storyline . Plot of the game is about survival of Human Race against Vanduul Race , 8 feet tall Alien Creatures .

Zloth2
Zloth2

@Treadstone71 If one of those publishers had asked us to pay even $90 for a game, there would have been an internet firestorm.  When we decide to pay it ourselves, though....

danabrion
danabrion

@parrot_of_adun @danabrion 

Well, maybe its not that much for a multimillion bussisnes like video games are, but for the supporter, the ones that put their dollar, or hundred of dollars on it, has to be a lot, or the guy has the right to say " sorry i didnt deliver cause you guys not funded enough", they already payd for something, and everyone who puts money on something, expect what they promised to them, thats the thing, be real with what you claim.

Sorciere_basic
Sorciere_basic

@MAD_AI @Sorciere_basic 

using freely earned in-game credits is still a transaction wall. You can't just use all the content whenever you want.

Waiting for someone to do the math on how long it would take in terms of game hours to actually access all content. Probably 10,000+ hours because of credit walls. I like games but I'm not devoting my entire life to one.

Just because it's free doesn't mean it's not blocked in some way. People need to stop wetting their pants just because they see the word "free"

Darkwalker75
Darkwalker75

@Crush_Project @Zloth2 

What is it that makes people like you think that it will take so damn much longer to make this game than what the devs themselves are saying?

Are you part of the dev team, do you have inside information that the rest of us are not privy to that indicates the game will be delayed?

The Hangar module will come out by the end of this month, and the Alpha is scheduled for the end of the year.

Beta will be sometime next year and release will be late 2014 or early 2015.

Is it truly so hard to believe that the devs actually know what they are talking about, what they are doing and that the schedule they have posted are possible to achieve?

bignick217
bignick217

@Cloud_imperium @ElPipita Nothings been said yet about capturable/destroyable planet bases.  There has been mention of capturable asteroid bases, but nothing about planet bases.  Most of the combat is ship based.  And the FPS combat is mostly restricted to ship boarding operations from what they've said so far.  Planets themselves, they've always described as supposed to being safe zones.

Poison-tooth
Poison-tooth

@Temperedelm He was probably referring to «Ten years ago, big publishers decided space games weren’t profitable». ;)

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

@Zloth2 apparently you've not seen the ads for a game called planetary annihilation.

they want $90 for a presale game on steam and call it crowd funding.

sailor67a
sailor67a

@danabrion@Crush_Project

Actually I disagree with you both, the CIG team does not have the overhead nor the marketing budget the traditional developers have. Nor do they have to pay Sony and Microsoft their cut to port to the PS3/4 or Xbox 360/1. So a relatively small team can execute quickly without a bunch "suits" getting in the way.

One other quick point, with no outside investment CIG keeps all the profits form sales.. 

I leave you with this, the  link is to video from the game. It is in engine and in game, meaning this is the level of detail players will see on their PC's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBef4GUdUuk

Cheers

BrassBullet
BrassBullet

I don't think you and I are seeing the same game here.  Think Freelancer.  If you haven't played that, I suggest you do.  If you don't like it than space trading/dogfighting games probably aren't for you.  I see Freelancer as a sort of TES game...in Space.


Most games don't let you simply skip to the final level with the big boss battle...why should you be able to in Star Citizen? Where is the fun in that?

Darkwalker75
Darkwalker75

@Crush_Project@Darkwalker75

No I'm nothing of the sort, I'm merely curious.

I only asked some questions in the hopes that you could satisfy my curiosity, but instead of answering them, you respond with condescending remarks.

Your previous comment made it sound as if you know better than both the devs and the rest of us just how long this game will take to finish.

But your response to my questions makes it clear that you dont know anything more than that rest of us and are just making random comments with no basis in facts.

Thanks for the insight.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

@Darkwalker75

sry I didn't realize you were the secret police of the fanboi club, but while I am excited about this game, its not the first one ive ever tracked.

bignick217
bignick217

@Cloud_imperium Actually I have played Wing Commander.  It was one of my favorite games growing up where I played Wing Command III, IV, Prophecy and Privateer.  I'm also an original backer of Star Citizen who reads their news boards every week.  I wasn't telling you the above to get at your goat.  I was only telling you about what's been announced and what they've explicitly stated.  And Chris Roberts has explicitly stated that planet surfaces are supposed to be safe zones.  As for campaign missions that go planetside, I don't know.  Nothings been announced yet in that regard.  But as you correctly stated, he has done it before in his campaigns in the past.  Specifically in Wing Commander III when you have to destroy the Kilrathi homeworld by flying down to the surface and launching a bomb into a major fault line from you stealth fighter.  Do I still sound like someone who's never played Wing Commander?  There was no reason for you to get accusatory in such a stupid and childish fashion by someones factual statement that if anything, was more in support of your original statement than against it.  It was uncalled for.

Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

@bignick217 @Cloud_imperium @ElPipita Sounds like someone who never played Wing Commander . They talked about no planetside combat for Multiplayer , as for Squadron 42 , it have always been part of simulation . For Example : There is some kind of device that needs to be deactivated , so for the time being you will enter planet surface with your ship and launch probe or whatever on building that will cut the power or disable their shields for time being . It's part of simulation and had been done in his games before .

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

@MAD_AI I've stopped responding, it's a merry-go-round with someone who just doesn't have the ability to comprehend the exchange between time and money.

I mean, if 2 people start a duel, one using a ship they bought through in-game credits, and another using the exact same ship but bought with cash, somehow that translates to P2W (Meaning that the person who paid with cash must obviously win the fight between 2 identical setups...).

On topic though, I cannot WAIT for this game! :D

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad 

Thank you for proving your hypocrisy, I mean it's alright to insult me but it appears your skin is too frail to accept any reprisal, pity.

Yes soldier on with your "crusade", remember to tilt at those windmills with courage and precision. 

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad Thank you for ending the conversation, you have proven your argument is baseless and have thus resorted to mindless shenanigans.

Don't worry, I'll keep trying, it's always hard to change something for the better.

Goodbye now.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad 

Oh my wounded heart, I mean being insulted is one thing but in eloquence oh my whatever am I to do in face of such a horrid litany of slurs, I'm afraid my fragile sensibilities can't handle it much longer! *faints

Get a grip, no gives a flying rat's ass about your "crusade". 

DLC quest? Played it, whatever lessons one can draw from that game fails to apply to Star Citizen, sorry.

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad You are but a single mind in a much larger infestation of the video game industry. 

I do so hope I and like-minded intelligent people can steer it away from the chasm people like you have brought it to.

You should go play DLC Quest again, and think of the quest to get your sword, think about it really hard.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad  

Well thank God we have your light to save the industry, champion onwards in your glorious crusade oh mighty hero!

Meanwhile I will be playing and enjoying this game alongside many others. 

And I actually have a job and I buy decent games most recently Skyrim Legendary edition, and thank you for assuming again.

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad Did you bother to read my above post? Sigh, I am the light of hope among a sea of ignorance.

Oh goody for you you beat the system! Meanwhile the industry slowly degrades. How about you get a job and actually purchase a decent game?


And Daemoroth, why don't you get a little self respect and responsibility and play a decent game or just donate your money MAD_AI so he can actually purchase a game for once?

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad 

Well no shit Sherlock, even in single player offline RPG's you're going to have to grind your way to the high level stuff. 

And guess what? MechWarrior Online, War Thunder, WarFrame etc... All F2P games that I've played and enjoyed over these past few months and I haven't dropped a single dime in them, I reached the Atlas mech which is the most expensive in MWO without paying a cent in less than 3 days, your argument is invalid. If you're only going to play just to grind to the high tier stuff then don't bother, usually playing games is meant for having fun, but that's just me. 

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad @Cloud_imperium Like League of Legends right? In order to unlock everyone you would need to play what 10000+ hours? Knowing no one will do this, they bank on people being nickle and dimed, little by little, under the illusion of "earning all the heroes", like slave labor. You people don't realize when you are being taken advantage of, children should know better.

You two are completely ignorant of business affairs.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium  

Why would I? I can have anything in game for free when I actually play the game, lol you must suck at making a sales pitch. Why would I buy a game if not to play it.

Daemoroth on the other hand doesn't have time so they give him the option of paying for convenience but I guess that hurts your sensibilities for some reason, and there's nothing that he can get for money that can't for free all he's doing is saving time. 



WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@Daemoroth @WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium


"Please point out how it's a competition of wallet size if you have 2 options to obtain the same item?"

See your above paragraph. 


This is such a lucrative business, people are willing to pay top dollar for a few pixels.


And you act as if I was speaking of MMO games, no those were always enormous wastes of time with 0 skill and just grinding.



MMO's are not like Chess where you get better at strategizing, it's like over time your pieces are just plain better.

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

@WantYouBad @Daemoroth @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium Actually, games used to be for fun... And to me they still are, it's why I play them. It's why I don't rage-quit when I come across someone who's better than me.

Unfortunately, people like you think that having hours upon hours to sink into activities that ANYONE can do somehow make you "leet".

Grinding out mindless tasks doesn't require skill, and me being willing to buy a ship with cash isn't because I can't grind out those mindless tasks, it's because I don't have the TIME to do it, and instead of grinding out mindless tasks I'd rather be out hunting/doing whatever I feel like.

Please point out how it's a competition of wallet size if you have 2 options to obtain the same item?

Oh, and your generalising statement is quite entertaining, please point out which games have become a competition of wallet size, by all means.

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad @Cloud_imperium Dear lord you do have some kind of brain, or perhaps Google... You come to me when you need your net fix, I'll hook you up with some virtual t shirts for a game, 69.99 a piece, but oh wait you can earn them if you get a job and work 8 hours! Fair trade, right? I can see you're a very intelligent consumer, so why don't you just give me your CC information in advance?

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium 

 Yeah...Quoting Orwell isn't going to make sound any smarter nor will it make you right. 

I will be enjoying this game while you're shaking your fist at the man in a comedic hippie fashion. 

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad @Cloud_imperium People without professional lives/work/wives/kids will never understand the difference between P2W and trading time for money...

P2W is if you can fork out cash for an item that cannot be obtained in-game, and is better than anything available in the game, THAT's buying an advantage.

If both parties can get the same items, one through in-game currency and one with cash, it's a simple case of trading time spent earning the currency for money (Which, as a professional, you have more of than time).

I don't have 8-12 hours to play a game every day, with my commitments I can maybe grab an hour, sometimes a bit more. If I can spend real money to allow me to spend that hour actually playing the game the way I want as opposed to grinding out credits to buy the ship, guess what I'm going to do.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium  

 Well thank God we have you around here to gives us financial advice.

Do me a favor, when this game comes out thanks to all those 200+K generous backers, please don't come near this game, don't even touch it or look at it, even ignore it's single player campaign that has over 40 missions.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium  

Yeah, all the 200+K who backed this game who can actually comprehend the fact that micro transactions are optional and that they can have anything they want in game for free. 

But I digress.

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@Stevefin @WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperiumI believe that our money is worth something.I know that if I start accepting a lower standard for my money, the quality of games will go down and the price will rise. You know, like the industry today.

But regardless, people like you will bend over backwards to feed that addiction, so I am raped by association.

P.S. Your friend must be smarter than you.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium 

 Well you know what they say about people assume too much, they usually make asses out of themselves. 

But hey man more powah to ya, fight the system.

Stevefin
Stevefin

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium 

You remind me of a friend I know wantyoubad, that if there is even one fraction you don't agree with you boycott and claim it as the work of everything that is wrong.

Pay to win originally means buying a in game breaking advantage that some one who plays for free will never gain without spending cash themselves, the WoT example is close, except that its not game braking, there is still that sense of randomness tied to gold rounds, and a vast majority of gold rounds can be worse in other stats to coin rounds.


But these days any game with an item shop seems to be pay to win, even if it is buying  equipment anyone can with ingame cash, this system is aimed at those who love to play but don't have the time, but do have the money, to artificially catch up to some one who plays all day but does not have the money.


Star citizen is this version, as yes right now you can pledge for a ship, when the game comes out you will be trading real money for in game money. if to say they came out that who ever had the money to, could buy their own bengal carrier that will forever be theirs and theirs alone, that would be pay to win, as it has been stated only a small amount of fleet carriers exist in game, and they are large PvP bulls eye, as they are a symbol of power and rarity.

fourty6to3
fourty6to3

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI

You can "PAI TOW WINNN!!"  or complain about it all you want and I'll still kick your ass with the starter ship.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium  

Apparently you have 0 idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry but it's the truth.

But hey I'm going to be enjoying this game without putting a penny more than I have much like I already enjoy for the past 6 months MechWarrior Online even tho I have 0 dollars in that game, the same goes for PlanetSide 2 which I have yet to drop a single dime in it.

But you, you keep fighting the good fight against the system man, for the sake of the "gaming industry".


WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@MAD_AI @WantYouBad @Cloud_imperium Apparently it is.

I love how you crack addicts defend to the death a game you like no matter how much it fucks you over. that's why the industry is in the state it's in and only going down, because people like you will pay for anything.

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@WantYouBad @MAD_AI @Cloud_imperium  

What I said translates to pay for convenience. 

Pay 2 win means paying for something a free non paying user cannot obtain without paying real world cash which gives an advantage over non paying players, cosmetic items notwithstanding.

For example paying for premium ammo in World of Tanks which grants a damage and armor penetration boosts is considered pay 2 win since a non paying user cannot buy said ammo for ingame credits (this was in the earlier days of WoT, they changed it now). 

In MechWarrior Online, I can buy an Atlas mech with either real world cash or in game credits, that does equate to pay 2 win.