Square Enix sues Deus Ex demo pirates

Publisher going after unknown Italians for downloading press preview of futuristic shooter off Steam, leaking it to torrent sites.

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Deus Ex: Human Revolution is supposed to launch August 23, and Square Enix wants to make sure it's not making the rounds before then. As spotted by Patent Arcade, the publisher has filed suit against a group of unknown gamers for downloading and distributing an unauthorized demo of the game intended for press previews.

This is what Square Enix would like to do to press demo pirates.

The lawsuit was filed against Does 1-15, with names to be specified later. Although Square Enix didn't know their names at the time the suit was filed last month, the publisher believes they are residents of Italy.

As for how the defendants got their hands on the preview code in the first place, Square Enix said it used Valve's Steam service to distribute the code to press outlets, with the specific magazines and sites being issued redemption codes that would unlock the Deus Ex: Human Revolution demo. However, someone accessed the demo using the code associated with an Italian gaming magazine from an IP address not linked to the periodical. Square Enix believes that person then copied the preview from the Steam server and shared it using a peer-to-peer torrent program.

Square Enix is asking that the defendants, once identified, be held liable "for direct, contributory, and/or vicarious infringement" of its copyrights, as well as financial damages and attorneys' fees.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is set for release August 23. For more on the game, check out GameSpot's latest preview.

Discussion

215 comments
rugripper40
rugripper40

@stan_boyd and the game is really kool like i said...glad the demo got leaked

kaem79
kaem79

Worthless SquarEnix!

Armyboy5
Armyboy5

Them pirates are in trouble now..

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

I have played beta's and often there are changes, its called polishing. A beta isn't polished which is why its the beta and not the retail version. And polishing doesn;t just refer to graphics.

Ein001
Ein001

@stan_boyd You've either never played a beta then the retail of the same game or you're just clueless. Not much changes from beta to release, especially not AI.

Ein001
Ein001

The only reason I can see for getting mad about the demo being leaked is if they don't plan on releasing one to the public and the game is total s^^t. If the game is actually good they don't have anything to worry about. In fact, they get free press from this, they should drop the lawsuit so it doesn't become negative press though...

LanceVance87
LanceVance87

"Half life 2 the whole beta version got leaked, who got sued, nobody" but the leaker himself confessed the whole thing months ago.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@megaloser That is why this demo shouldn't have been released its not the final product and already people like you say it has many flaws such as the AI. It was a beta build not meant to be played by the general public as it was incomplete.

rugripper40
rugripper40

@stan_boyd Posted Jul 7, 2011 12:15 pm ET rugripper40 if you bothered to read the article or responses you would know that its not just a demo, its the "press demo" basically about 8-10 hours of the game for websites and magazines to play to write reviews and such not bothered at all by article...and if it was a press demo...guess who freakin uploaded it..good for them...i dont believe in a full game rip off but its a demo and it must be that good that the press leaked it to the public...hell we are the gamers we should get it the same time as the press does so we can make up our own minds on how good the game is and decide on buying it or not...different strokes for different folks and some reviewers may hate this game where others may really enjoy this game..thats all im saying...like viking battle for asgard i really enjoyed it alot...it got a 5.0 score across the board everywhere and many people including the publishers and the designers lost alot of money because of critics,reviewers,mags,etc...thats what sucks not a leaked demo...these publishers need to wake up and smell the coffee...per say...lol

Mega_Loser
Mega_Loser

i was impressed by the detroit setting eidos created, i love the 80's cyberpunk theme. i'll surely buy it, even with all its many flaws i saw (half of it is the AI) that may or may not be fixed (the case is probably not)

DKant
DKant

If they hadn't said Italian right away I would have said it must be some jerks from "News of the World" :P

HollowNinja
HollowNinja

Square seems to have a good case here.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

The beta was leaked back in May, don't know how old the actual beta is because Xbox magazine had an article about playing it in february or march's issue.

tachsniper
tachsniper

and from what ive heard/seen the demo is amazing, it comes out next month, if you know anything at all about the game making process you would know that 95% of the game is finished, all they are adding now if anything is giving the game a last minute touch up, hell the master may already be sent off to mass production. if this demo showed up 6 months ago ok i'd agree that it was an early buggy build, but not so late in the development cycle.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

Yeah its a demo, but its not meant to be a public demo, its unpolished and glitchy as its an early build of the game which could turn some people off, if I play a demo of a game and its glitchy as hell I typically don't buy it cause I expect the full game to be similar to the demo. If I had known how buggy of a mess New Vegas was for example I wouldn't have bought it. However this demo is untested and therefore some people may be unfair on its glitchiness not realizing how early of a build it is. Also there may be some features that are missing or maybe some they decided to take out, but when the full game comes out some people will expect it to be like the "demo".

tachsniper
tachsniper

Sorry i could see if the whole game is floating around out there but it's not, this is a demo, a demo which caused many more people to pre order the game people that would not have if they had not played the demo, this is a good thing for SE and they are just complaining.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

Also when the Halflife beta got leaked, they decided to do a massive delay and make alot of changes. You can defend pirates all you want, as far as I am concerned they are no better than someone who breaks into your home and steals your possessions, only difference is they are breaking into networks and stealing data. They should be charged criminally and locked up for few years.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

but the fact is the game is already leaked, not might be leaked like your "I might fall in front of walmart" comparison. big difference between something that has happened but not sure by who, and something that hasn't happened.

tachsniper
tachsniper

@stan_boyd sorry thats not how civil suits work, and this is a civil suit not a criminal offense. (yet). You can't preemptively sue somebody especially f you don't even know who that somebody is yet. Crysys 2 the whole beta build got leaked, who got sued? nobody Half life 2 the whole beta version got leaked, who got sued, nobody this is a 5 hour press demo, Squeenix is just whining like a little girl with a skinned knee.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@tachsniper The demo has already been leaked so its not a "it may be leaked someday" like your "i might fall in front of walmart someday" kind of situation. Its more like if some random dude beat the snot out of you, sure you don't know his name but I am sure you will still report it and if they find the culprit then you will press charges.

tachsniper
tachsniper

wait so Squeenix is suing someone they dont even know who leaked it? well crap man i may fall and bust my knee in front of my local wal-mart one day, guess i better start that lawsuit.

pidow
pidow

Not long now!.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

Well one reason Sqeenix might be concerned about the demo hurting sales is because the press demo is a beta or maybe even an alpha build. Its a really early build that hasn't been polished or well tested for glitches. So someone playing it could think "man this game is so glitchy what a freakin mess, even worse than fallout new vegas" or they could think " man these textures and animations are terrible you think they could do better with todays tech".

Xinoirea
Xinoirea

I really do hope this goes all the way, just to hear how they back up the claim of financial damages. I would love to hear them actually say something about being afraid people wouldn't want the game after trying the demo. Pure epic right there. Far as the rest of it goes, its a demo. For the purposes of advertising, the goal of which was achieved. Intercepted by non press and distributed to non press, yep. A shame for square if it's really that important to them. I guess they have the right to control who gets access to their particular previews. Copyright infringement, ok, their eulas specify even not for profit, so ok, it is an actual infringement crime. But to think they are going to actually receive money for this? Really? Get your heads out square enix and quit jacking up the price of my games because of insane legal costs you don't have a chance of recouping. Sue em for pirating the damn game if you want once it comes out. It's a frikkin demo... extended but demo nonetheless. It's nowhere near equal to the whole game whether it be an hour or 10. It's a demo. Oh and runstalker, u got issues bro.

Mr_CrazyPants
Mr_CrazyPants

It's not contending against anybody. Its in a genre of its own. But for Game Of The Year. Yea its contending lol. ;)

4love10
4love10

no joke, this game is a must to buy on my list,they made a Astonishing job a fierce contender of The Witcher 2.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@tachsniper Thats not theft, thats your poor choices. I didn't pay for FFXIII or any of its DLC because it didn't interest me, in fact I haven't bought a square game since FFIX. There is a difference between them stealing from you, and you choosing to give them your money.

emperiox
emperiox

@stan_boyd Ah k, no problem.

tachsniper
tachsniper

@stan_boyd they steal your money demanding a premium for a sub standard product. and nickel and dime you for DLC that should have been in the game to begin with.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Emperiox actually my post was supposed to be 2 separate paragraphs, the part saying its not meant to be tested for bugs was directed at you. The part about the stealing was meant to all the people who are supporting the pirates. But for some reason it connected the paragraphs when I posted.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@tachsniper what has squeenix stolen from me? My money? Nope I choose whether I give it to them or not they don't take it from me. My time maybe? Nope I choose whether I spend time with their products or not. So what have they stolen from me.

runstalker
runstalker

emperiox Posted Jul 7, 2011 2:41 pm PT "Rather, I said there was no harm in the demo being stolen because it was going to be released for free anyways." Sigh. No, this 10-hour press-only preview build we are all talking about, a.k.a. the "press demo," was never intended to be released publically -- not for free, not at any price. Sweet geezus, it still hasn't sunk in yet my friends? This "press demo" internal preview build does not, on any level, have anything whatsoever to do with the Deus Ex: Human Revolution "consumer demo" that will be placed on Steam, XBLA and PSN prior to, or at the game's release. We clear? Holy crap. :)

emperiox
emperiox

@stan_boyd Lol, let's not be a moron and take what I said out of context. They claim that they are losing money because of this, which is a BLATANT LIE! Not once did I say it's ok to steal. Rather, I said there was no harm in the demo being stolen because it was going to be released for free anyways. Please quit trying to troll me. This is the only time I've ever defended people who pirate.

runstalker
runstalker

It's not "just a demo" you fools. It's the first 10 hours of the game specifically for extended previews by the press. It's not being developed by Square Enix you fools. It's being made by Eidos Montreal, a studio comprised of AAA action game veterans from elite Ubisoft and EA teams. This is the studio's first ever game. My god, wake up people. Get informed. The game ships in two months and you're still this ignorant? And do you really think publishers send "demos"--like the very short XBLA/PSN consumer demos--to the press? A 30-minute demo with a "Buy Now" button at the end? What are you kids smoking? By George, the ignorance is astounding.

tachsniper
tachsniper

@stan_boyd but perfectly ok for those companies to steal from us right? the law must be for all or it is for none.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@emperiox actually the PRESS demo that was STOLEN, is not supposed to be tested for bugs as its a early build just meant to give magazines and websites a chance to write previews and maybe show off some pics and vid clips, it has not yet been polished. Also what I seem to be getting from the general consensus of people here is that stealing is ok, as long as its something you enjoy. If I break into your home and steal some of your food its alright because I enjoy it and its not harming you. And if I decide I want to hack your email and read your letters and forward them to some of my friends its all good, no harm done my friends can have some enjoyment reading them and it doesn't cost you anything.

tachsniper
tachsniper

Dear Square Enix, After releasing two of the worst RPG's in history, one of them an MMO do you really think you have the balls to sue over a demo? How about you STFU and give us a Final Fantasy that doesn't suck.

jmc88888
jmc88888

The companies themselves are guilty of crimes, see wiretapping without a warrant. (not only does the gov't do this, now corporations can too!) [and no the answer isn't an eye for an eye] Then they are trying people for crimes without names, and ordering others without a warrant to turn over said names. They also aren't individually trying you, they are going on the cheap and lumping everyone together. That's illegal too. (and if it isn't in your country, it sure and the hell should be) All for a demo? Yeah, we aren't turning completely fascist for corporations are we? Worldwide. Wall Street, the king of all. You, little peasant, must fear them. It's a fricking game demo, which last I checked, isn't sold for any money. So how are they monetarily harmed? Oh yeah, they might know your game may be crap before you lift your Stalin review iron curtain before the release date. You are nothing, and won't be until you take the fight back to them. Glass-Steagall or continued to be trounced for no reason other than others made up these arbitrary rules to benefit them, and aid their golden parachutes. If this doesn't make you sick, congratulations, you are a fine little slave. Glass-Steagall

dj_pulserfan
dj_pulserfan

Wow. You know the original Deus Ex had a 10 hour demo similar to this because the game was just THAT big. They SHOULD be happy that whatever press member leaked this because many PC users snubbed the game simply because of Square Enix's involvement with the series thinking it would further be simplified worse than Invisible War was. After the demo leaked the reactions to it were amazing and many people pre-ordered it on Steam and other places just because of how impressed they were, INCLUDING ME! This is a stupid, stupid move on their part.

emperiox
emperiox

Believe it or not, I'm siding with the pirates on this one for the first time ever. Here's why: It's a demo, it's supposed to be tested for bugs and to preview what the full game will be like. It's also going to be free anyways. Thus, they didn't lose any funds from this happening. I can't see any harm coming from this really. SE, let 'em go!

Mr_CrazyPants
Mr_CrazyPants

Also press release demos aren't enough to write a game review. They get a final copy to do that. Preview yes. In reality, there wouldn't be any loss in sales on release. If anything this will make them even better.. If Eidos Montreal are completely confident in their efforts in recapturing dues ex and giving that to it's fans they have nothing to fear. By Square Enix doing this sh*t "suing small fries".. It just proves they no nothing and their selfish as*holes. Also to any employee from Square Enix i hope your reading this STOP MAKING SH*TY FF SEQUELS AND F*CKING MOVE ON! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE.. THEN JUST MAYBE.. JUST MAYBE.... YOU'LL START MAKING MONEY AGAIN.

Mr_CrazyPants
Mr_CrazyPants

stan_boyd If anything this leaked demo was a good thing and the public/fans got a good glance of what to expect from the final version. From what i've heard the game is pretty decent. buggy yes because it's Alpha footage. Also, Square Enix didn't make this game, their the publisher and they had close to no contribution in this games development. In my opinion their only trying to cash in more money for themselves because their Stingy C*nts. And this isn't theft lol. "They didn't gain anything from giving this to everybody". It's free ex-poser that's well over due.

tachsniper
tachsniper

the game is completely and utterly awesome, and im not gonna say how i know that.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@rugripper40 if you bothered to read the article or responses you would know that its not just a demo, its the "press demo" basically about 8-10 hours of the game for websites and magazines to play to write reviews and such.

jollybest1
jollybest1

it isn't a demo it is a beta meant forr the previewrs like gamespot and others like gamespot, i think it is 3 to 10 hours depends , if you do the side missions it gets longer if you do only the primary miss.you will play less

jollybest1
jollybest1

@rugripper40 nope the game is good

rugripper40
rugripper40

instead of just releasing your demo to the press...release it to the people that are buying it...ridiculous lawsuit again...its just a demo btw...does the game suck that bad that the real gamers[people that buy the games]cant get a preview before its release...no gamesite,mag,etc ever got me that excited i wanted to run out and buy a game because of what they said..demos give me what i need to see if i want to buy it or not..wake up publishers and stop trying to get free money on a demo..dont care how they got it,its a demo which should have been released to us already.i know everyone wants to make money but if the devs and publishers take more pride in there games and release demos they would sell more copies but alot of games are linear,dumb,lots of bugs,rushed,and garbage.this is why people wait for the 10 dollar or less price tag to buy like myself...lol

areszues92
areszues92

Saw the demo on youtube, the highlighting of the subs sucks bad.

strayfies
strayfies

It is just a demo right? To me it's better than pirating the entire copy or some pre-release debug copy. They should be punished, at least to maintain precedence, but hopefully not too badly. If it is only the demo, they're really just promoting the game - these probably aren't lost sales on Squeenix's part.