Square Enix CEO: 360, PS3 too complex

Talking up the DS and Wii, Yoichi Wada believes that the two next-gen consoles are 'over-engineered' and 'mismatched' to gamers' needs.

Square Enix dropped the bombshell in December that the latest in its Dragon Quest role-playing game series, Dragon Quest IX: Guard of the Starry Night (working title), would be coming exclusively to the DS. As the last installments of the game--which is very, very big in Japan--were on Sony's PlayStation 2 and original PlayStation, the news was a head-scratcher for many.

Square Enix's president and CEO, Yoichi Wada, has now explained the decision, which he says was made so that the "widest array of people" could play the latest installment in the RPG series, reports the Financial Times. He believes bringing the series to the DS means the game could find fans outside of its current audience.

Wada appears not to be a fan of complex next-gen consoles like the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3, which he calls "over-engineered." He told the newspaper, "There are too many specs--and you also need a high-definition TV, a broadband connection, and a deep knowledge of gaming--these consoles are mismatched to today's environment. In a year or two years, they will fare better."

The Square Enix executive believes that the ground has shifted in the gaming industry. "[Whereas] in the old days,we could just focus on the PlayStation or the Game Boy," he said, "the environment has changed completely." A new breed of gamer has also emerged on the back of the release of Nintendo's marketing push to embrace nontraditional gamers--including women and older people--and this means, Wada says, "we have to make games for all kinds of people."

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ColdDice
ColdDice

I dont know:\ seems iffy. I like DQviii, but i dont know if the DS is the answer... but i guess i will wait and see

kingofcosmos231
kingofcosmos231

i don't know if dragon quest could get a different fan base unless they drastically change the gameplay.

paul_hubans
paul_hubans

WOW! He said it perfectly... I think that the 360 but especially the PS3 are largely ahead of themselves in where gaming systems should be... It's all tailored to high-cost, high-definition, and high-expectations... But aside from bringing us better graphics and higher frame rates, what are these new titles really doing for us? I don't own a Wii, but I think Nintendo is moving at the right pace. I bought a DS for Christmas and I'm loving every minute of it... In fact, I can't put it down! And I've got about 10 games for it already, and I managed to stay under $200... Talk about a deal! I'd much rather play something that's fun, new and innovative rather than the same old franchises I've played on the PS2 with simply better graphics (GTA, MGS, FF, etc)...

digitaltiger
digitaltiger

I like the DS and a lot of its games but I hope the screen isn't to small for DQ IX. One of the best things about DQ VIII was the awesome graphics, my first reaction to hearing that DQ IX is coming out only on the DS was a groan and why isn't it coming out on the Wii as well?

TheDude722
TheDude722

Hey Shmoe82... you have Bowser from Mario Kart as your icon/avatar, but you don't own a DS?? What was the last system you bought? Are you still playing N64? Have you bought a GameCube yet, you slacker? Get a DS finally. It is well worth it. (I recommend the DS Lite; don't buy the original DS on eBay) As for Dragon Quest 9 on DS: it looks a LOT like DQ8 but with kids instead of grown-ups! I thought DQ8 was great, so 9 had better have a good storyline; otherwise you're better off playing 8. Anything is better than Dragon Warrior 7 though. Sheesh!!

Shmoe82
Shmoe82

This is horrible news. I should have never played DQ 8 because I am once again addicted to DW after years of not playing. Great, now I might have to buy a damn DS.

DeThAddR
DeThAddR

Ahhh... a company exec that believes me when I say that 360 and PS3 aren't exactly what the people want... and he's right! Not only that, but it happens to be the company exec of my fave game company. Kudos to him for spelling out the truth. I truly believe that even though they boast bigger and badder, the technological advantage of the PS3 and 360 are also their biggest drawback/downfall. Nintendo is really dishing out what the people want with the Wii and the DS. I really wish they'd have kept the name "Revolution" because the revolt is about to start and the big N is about to retake its crown from Sony. Sorry Microsoft, bigger doesn't always mean better. I don't want to spend $500+ for a new system and hookups and $1000+ for a TV they FORCE you to get to take advantage of that technology. Kudos to Nintendo for keeping it simple (and fun) and Kudos to Sqeenix for realizing the "true" path with the Wii and DS.

StOcKoHeArTs
StOcKoHeArTs

if the KH goes on wii then i will by one!

legs1986
legs1986

Honestly I don't expect a DQ game to need to take advantage of everything the 360/PS3 have to offer. I'm very excited about a full handheld installment.

Poshkidney
Poshkidney

too hard bullhucks there just lazy the same reason they don't bring anything out for the pc for the same reason. If you think your better than western game developers you should be able to do these thing without a problem. japan has had hd tv since 92 so why haven't they been practising all that time

carrierj1
carrierj1

Square Enix sounds like a lot of other companies recently. It seems as if many companies are restructuring to support the Wii. The 360 and PS3 are powerful but to take advantage of that power takes a long time. For example, think of how much time it would take to draw the art for a Super Mario Bros. sprite compared to getting the polygons together and the coloring for a character model in MGS4. Not only do you build up a lot of time, all of that time costs money without any promises of making more money. Imagine how much more money a company makes from making a Wii game compared to a PS3 game. The games cost less to make, plus the Wii has a higher user base. MGS 2 looks like it's going to take about 3 1/2 years to make plus there's no telling how many millions it cost. How much of a profit will it really make?

malmeid2
malmeid2

Sounds like Square Enix wants to keep using the same computers, software, and personnel that they've been squeezing through the life of PS2. Time to upgrade your computers and hire some more developers Square Enix. Don't be cheap and lazy! You don't need an "hdtv, broadband, or deep knowledge of gaming" to play PS3 or 360. anyone who has ever touched a video game since Atari or NES should be able to adapt pretty easily to almost any game offered on PS3 or 360. Since when did the masses become so retarded that we couldn't comprehend that pushing button A resulted in one specific action and pushing button B resulted in another specific action. Now we're all so stupid that we should only have one button to push and flail our arms around in the air? Sounds like Square Enix is just trying to save a few bucks to me... I don't blame 'em though but they're in the wrong business. they should just buy some McDonald's franchises and call it a day.

power22
power22

The WII is reestablishing Nintendo's lost dominance, and the best part is that its all Sony's fault.

Flint247
Flint247

This has to be a joke. If we lived by this, there would be no change in video games. XD

z2ei
z2ei

Translation: It's easier to remake FF1-6 all over again on the Wii/DS than it would be on the 360 or PS3.

Andonio
Andonio

I never thought I'd see the day... But hell, that is sure good! I'm glad SE has realised that they can appeal to a greater audience by supporting Nintendo, like they did back in the days of FF1-6.

evilviolenceman
evilviolenceman

Finally! Even stupid Square Enix agrees with me! Todays game consoles are simply upgrades of last-gen with few changes, heck even the graphics aren't as impressive as I would of hoped. The Wii on the other hand is fun cause I exercise while I play even more so then I expected and I can charge people for the privielige of playing on it (please don't sue me-I always use the money for buying Nintendo products!).

Havickk
Havickk

Volton_2004 your post reminds me of the current state of rap artists in the music industry, its the same thing going on.

kingmario78
kingmario78

Or it could be that nintendo has pretty much all of the 2D programmers hired. jediknight00 is right too, it's like outsold the PS3, and it's gaining so much ground on the 360. 8-million (Wii) to 10-million. (360) So, if you were a big game developer, which one would you go for...the smart selling fun one, or the other one...

jediknight00
jediknight00

okay wasn't this guy supporting both microsoft and sony at E3 '05 and now he's with nintendo, hmm i doubt it has to do with the Wii outselling the PS3 5-1 in Jaoan.

Ra-Devil
Ra-Devil

I won't say he's wrong to say that, because it's actually very true to most people, but he's also got to understand that the most ruthless buyers of games are these next generation gamers who will throw their money away for any game at any given moment. True, there are new gamers who aren't used to the culture yet, and may never embrace it, but that's not where you make your money. You make your money on the standing audience, the one's who already have owned consoles, will always own a console, and who buy games on a regular basis. Those are the fans who make you your money.

JimBurber
JimBurber

I like the wii, and i love the motion controls. But often times the motions are implemented in situations where I would MUCH rather just be able to push A, or use the d pad to move. I don't want to play an RPG that I have to point in the direction I want to go, or whatever things they might do. I sincerely hope that they don't shun series fans that enjoy the classic style gameplay and controls.

carrierj1
carrierj1

"I agree that graphics aren't everything, but I still don't understand why they limited the graphic capabilities of the Wii so much." I think Nintendo researched all of the possible weaknesses of the next-gen and counteracted them. They knew the next-gen systems would be expensive so they made their's cheap. They knew that control schemes and gaming experiences would be similiar to the last gen so they did something completely different. Nintendo's strategy seems to be working. It looks as if the entire industry is changing to accomodate the Wii. My only fear is that there will be too much focus on mini games. I think developers should look at what Nintendo has done with Zelda and Super Paper Mario and realize that they can make games for the hardcore gamer using the Wii's innovations.

scoobasteveo
scoobasteveo

"I agree that graphics aren't everything, but I still don't understand why they limited the graphic capabilities of the Wii so much." It was to keep the cost down. And BigBoi you just seem to be anti-nintendo. If you read my post I referenced starcraft as a great game with less then stellar graphics even for its time. Graphics age, what looks great now won't 5 years from now, but gameplay stands the test of time.

705H1R0
705H1R0

I see where's he's coming from, and I think a lot of you missed the point. Basically what he's saying is that the Xbox 360 and PS3 are made for gamers. It is more difficult for someone who's never played a videogame before to jump in and play than for someone who's been playing games most their life. The Wii is attempting to counteract that, making games that are very easy for anyone to pick up and play, children, grandparents, everyone. So I think what he's really trying to say is that the 360 and PS3 don't cater to new audiences as well as they could/should. I agree that graphics aren't everything, but I still don't understand why they limited the graphic capabilities of the Wii so much. Sure it's fun as heck to play it with friends, but since the PS3 and 360 have raised the graphics bar so much, it's hard for me to imagine being as immersed in a game for the Wii as a game on the other consoles. Oh, and to all the people trying to say the Wii isn't next-gen, get a grip. The Wii may not have amazing "specs," but that's not what Nintendo was going for. The Wii definitely exhibits next-gen interface and control systems, which the PS3 made a decent attempt at but the 360 completely fails at. Mind you, I'm a 360 owner myself. Consoles have been using controllers with buttons and joysticks for decades, it's about time someone stepped up and tried something new. In this respect, the Wii is more advanced than either of the competing consoles.

BigBoi_24
BigBoi_24

The Wii would have it nailed down if it had one of two things that consoles actually need. 1 GOOD GAMES 2 GOOD GRAPHICS Stupid Wii biatches are always saying " I would rather play a good game with bad graphics than a bad game with great graphics" WTF. The 360 and PS3 have awesome games AND good graphics!!! The Wii has neither great graphics, nor great games, SO WTF!!!!! To this day fanboys are the stupidest people on Earth. And no I am not considered a fanboy because even though I pick on Wii fanboys the most because they have the worst system, I have a Wii along with the other two and they are all good systems, and Wii is the worst of the 3, while still delivering good party games, and just about nothing else.

scoobasteveo
scoobasteveo

A game doesn't have to be complex to be great, and it doesn't have to look the prettiest either. Would you say that Mario Kart has the deepest gameplay experience around? Would you say Starcraft used cutting edge graphical technology? I don't think so. I'd rather play a great game with average graphics then a pretty game that sucks. Also note what I said applies for game making in general, not just in reference to the DS or Wii.

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

Whoever rated my post down and didn't explain themselves did a good job being a Wii fanboy.:P

Krunkcity3000
Krunkcity3000

i got my post pulled for bad mouthing this guy and japanese rpgs. Geez. this site is a concentration camp

deadstar649
deadstar649

He gives the impression of somebody who has had technology over take him and has been left behind in the past.

LastRenshai
LastRenshai

ha!! what a joke!!...since when do you need a "deep knowledge of gaming" to play video games?!?!!? all you do is make judgements then press stuff on a controller..i run into little kids on Xbox Live a lot and if they can grasp the concept of gaming then it shouldn't be to hard for an adult

staley6565
staley6565

so is that why pretty much every game on the PS3, 360, and PSP, look infinately more impressive, and promising than the Wii and DS games. I have FF3 for DS, and sure it's classic good, but it's pretty much a Famicon game, running N64 graphics, and the audio an orchestra in a tin can. Fast forward to FFXIII's development videos and trailer. Maybe you don't like Nomura's style, or whatever, but pessimists aside...the new games on the strongest consoles (360,PS3) look amazing, and seem to be ushering in the next stage in the evolution of gaming. That said, companies can have development and distribution be a cakewalk, or they can stop complaining, and start pushing the experience into the next level.

EmperorSamoth
EmperorSamoth

Yoichi Wada gets my vote for saying the dumbest comment of the month. Xbox 360 and PS3 "over-engineered." Good thing that guy from Ninja Gaiden Sigma had the cojones to respond saying, and I'm paraphrasing.. If you can't keep up with development, get out of the way.

wyldcard6
wyldcard6

He definitely sees the winds of change, and is jumping on the right band wagon. It is good to see Square Enix doing this, especially since I have a DS, and a Wii. :)

nathris
nathris

Way to go SE! Finally a company other than Nintendo understands its not all about the specs! Basically there are two options in todays "next gen" video game market: 1. Spend millions of dollars and over a year to make a 360/ps3 game that scores at least an 8.5 2. Have a normal development cycle and produce a game thats basically fodder for the vicious GS columnists to tear apart in their reviews. Square Enix is looking to Nintendo now because it doesn't take a massive amount of resources to create a great DS/Wii game, and I don't know about the rest of the community but I would prefer to play a new, great game with decent graphics(I honestly can't tell the difference on my 15" CRT tv) every 5-6 months than have to wait 12-15 months for a great, but short(GoW I'm looking at you) game with generally excellent graphics.

2TrickedOut
2TrickedOut

-voltron had to laugh at your response when you said sony is ahead of the xbox on software. Maybe your talking about the ps2? because the ps3 is still far behind in decent games compared to the 360. The ps3 is a great system but without some decent exclusives its not worth 600 right now. Maybe square Enix can't handle programming on the higher end systems ps3,360. So there taking the easy way out a Ds title. They could easly port those titles to the wii then.

lilsmurfaroonie
lilsmurfaroonie

"square/nintendo... this iz the beginning of a beutiful relationship." The relationship has been there for a long time... after all, Final Fantasy did originate on the Famicom (NES).

ClaudeLv250
ClaudeLv250

"This could be a good move for Square-Enix. And who ever said the Wii was next gen?" Uh, mayeb the people that MADE the next gen console?

starfoxmcleoud
starfoxmcleoud

This could be a good move for Square-Enix. And who ever said the Wii was next gen?

The_Weekend
The_Weekend

Damn bloody good move on this decision. Over Engineered is indeed true! Good games that don't reach out to the mass are still dead games!

Volton_2004
Volton_2004

On another note. I have read a few intelligent quotes here too. I went to college originally for game design and the first thing you learn is that it's all about the glitz and glamour (MONEY) anymore. The only people who care about gameplay is the consumer (and a few developers that are still out there...i.e. the ones that still bite and scratch to get their vision out there no matter the cost). It's honestly depressing. I dropped out of my degree only 4 months in after getting acquainted with the seedy underbelly of gaming companies. The underdog companies have the best ideas, and no money to do anything with them. It's a multi-billion dollar industry anymore and the most of the people who are truly passionate about gaming are swept under the rug and forced to develop freeware games just to get a name out there. I am honestly excited to see that Nintendo is getting this recognition...they are truly trying to innovate and create a whole new experience for gamers. The success of this system has some serious serious potential to shift the whole gaming industry back to where it was before Sony and Microsoft ever came onto the scene (not saying that they haven't seen extremely positive results on both sides). Does it feel to anyone else that the whole industry is just getting muddy? It's the same thing over and over minus a few exceptions. I don't want Sony or Microsoft to disappear as they still tailor to the hardcore gamer. Something Nintendo will probably never focus on. But I hope that they take a page or two from Nintendo's strategy next time around. I just want to see more of those games that make me feel like I'm a kid that can't wait to go home and play video games for a few hours and still be amazed at how they created what they created. Clean off the filth and let us breathe again with innovation and creativity.

Volton_2004
Volton_2004

"Get over yourself nintendo....the point of next gen is to have NEXT GEN specs...including....Higher def....longer games....better online play and such.....so far.....SONY takes the cake.....xbox still laggin behind w/ the system software......Nintendo all u ever did is put the Gameboy on the bigscreen...aka (wii)..congrats to that but no way in hell is that considered NEXT GEN." You are an idiot. This is honestly about the most ignorant thing I have ever read. I don't think I need to do much more explaining than that.

termadoyle
termadoyle

There is a reason that Nintendo has been a company since the 1880's izzatso? O_o

Poshkidney
Poshkidney

why don't square enix go and try harder or moderfiy the engine to get it too work i think square enix is being just a bit lazy here and why won't they make games for th pc if they did i would proberly be better at them

R3efer
R3efer

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TEX-MEX
TEX-MEX

I have to agree with "Captainintendo ", even though i own a Xbox 360. Its fun to play with great graphics but just doesnt cut it. You need ur back-up (Nintendo Wii). Greatest games ever created to play along side with friends and family. Nintendo will never fall out of the competition.

Captainintendo
Captainintendo

"Get over yourself nintendo....the point of next gen is to have NEXT GEN specs...including....Higher def....longer games....better online play and such.....so far.....SONY takes the cake.....xbox still laggin behind w/ the system software......Nintendo all u ever did is put the Gameboy on the bigscreen...aka (wii)..congrats to that but no way in hell is that considered NEXT GEN" I'll be laughing at you when Microsoft and Sony bow out of the gaming industry and leave Nintendo the reigning champion. There is a reason that Nintendo has been a company since the 1880's. They focus on fun games rather than next gen specs.

OatmealKing
OatmealKing

Get over yourself nintendo....the point of next gen is to have NEXT GEN specs...including....Higher def....longer games....better online play and such.....so far.....SONY takes the cake.....xbox still laggin behind w/ the system software......Nintendo all u ever did is put the Gameboy on the bigscreen...aka (wii)..congrats to that but no way in hell is that considered NEXT GEN.