Spot On: System Wars 2008

GameSpot asks industry illuminati to predict whether the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, or Wii will emerge as the holiday victor, and which will go on to be the ultimate winner in this generation of the console race.

The latest next-gen console battle is well under way. The Xbox 360 was the first to launch on November 22, 2005, in the US, followed by the PlayStation 3 on November 17, 2006, and the Wii on November 19, 2006. However, in Europe, things were turned a little on their head, with the Xbox 360 launching on December 2, 2005, followed by the Wii on December 8, 2006, and the fashionably late PlayStation 3 on March 23, 2007.

The previous console cycle saw the PlayStation 2 scoring a decisive win. Since it debuted in 2000, the machine has gone on to sell more than 120 million units worldwide and is the best-selling console in history so far. After overtaking Sega's ill-fated Dreamcast, which launched in 1999, it went on to fend off new rivals such as the Nintendo GameCube and the original Xbox, which both went on sale in 2001.

Part of the PS2's success was Sony's scoring of must-have console exclusives on the format--including Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, the Kingdom Hearts series, and Final Fantasy X. Indeed, many people bought the console just to play Grand Theft Auto III and its two successors, Vice City and San Andreas, which all debuted on the PS2 before being eventually ported to the Xbox and PC.

In today's market, though, high-profile exclusives are fewer and farther between. Many developers are choosing to go multiplatform to recoup the rapidly increasing costs of producing games for the so-called "HD Era." These include traditionally PlayStation-focused Japanese publishers such as Capcom and Koei, which both have announced a strategy going forward to make all titles multiplatform.

What does the industry think? Which console has the best lineup of games this Christmas? Which is most likely to entice consumers to part with their readies? Will there be a console to rule them all?

THE PRICE IS RIGHT...AND THE GAMES

The Wii is the cheapest of the three systems at £179 ($250 in the US)--but its scarcity has led to massive markups on eBay. The PS3 and the 360 have both recently had price cuts, with the new 40GB PS3 costing £300 ($400) and the premium 360 costing £250 ($350). If you want top end, you can get the 360 Elite for £300 ($450) or pick up an 80GB PS3 in the US for $499 or a 60GB while they last in the UK at £349.

The Xbox 360, which has been out the longest, has probably the strongest 2007 holiday lineup, a fact that is somewhat to be expected. The library for the 360 is the biggest and currently adds up to well over 300 games. On the exclusive tip, the hugely successful first-person shooter Halo 3 generated more than $170 million in its first day on sale in the US and sold more than 5 million units worldwide by the end of November. The 360 also exclusively has the newly released sci-fi role-playing game Mass Effect, which has sold more than 1 million copies since its late November release, and the flight sim Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation, which boosted 360 sales in Japan.

Following on into 2008 and beyond, exclusives coming up for the 360 include Lionhead's Fable 2, the psychological thriller Alan Wake, the real-time strategy Halo Wars, and Silicon Knights' sci-fi action adventure Too Human, which is due out at the beginning of the year.

The PS3 has the fewest games out at the moment, with around 160 titles currently on the market. Recent games, such as Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, have made a stir and have been joined by the recently released SingStar, which gives gamers access to the SingStore to buy new tunes. In North America, the just-released Unreal Tournament III will be exclusive to the console until next year (alongside its PC release). However, the console's biggest exclusives are arriving next year, and they include Ubisoft's first-person shooter Haze and the long-awaited swan song of Konami's popular Metal Gear series, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

The Wii has just under 250 titles currently out, including the critically praised bestsellers Super Mario Galaxy, RPG Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and WarioWare: Smooth Moves. Hot exclusives coming up include Suda 51's weird world of No More Heroes, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams. However, two of the oldest games for the system--Wii Sports and Wii Play--remain among the top titles for the game, since they come bundled with the console and extra controller (respectively).

THE MAKERS SPEAK

Sony has had its fair share of bad publicity, which Sir Howard Stringer has called "unkind," surrounding the PS3. But according to upper management, those teething problems are now behind it. Stringer commented that the PS3 was "making a comeback already" and that production issues had been solved, adding, "We believe PS3, going forward, will be vital to our future and will succeed." The company also touts the PS3's powerful Cell processor as a plus to the system, along with the ability of the console to play Blu-ray movies at a price cheaper than most actual Blu-ray players.

Sony Computer Entertainment New Zealand's head of marketing, Warwick Light, said that in comparison, the Wii was not actually a next-gen system. He said, "Look at the tangible differences between processing power and scope for scalability between the PS3 and the Xbox 360. It is clear that the PS3 is designed to last until the next generation... DVD is current generation. Why would you support current generation?"

Microsoft has argued that Xbox Live and Xbox Live Marketplace are two of the biggest reasons to go with its console instead of one of its rivals. Xbox Live Video Marketplace recently launched in the UK, Ireland, Canada, France, and Germany and is already going strong in the US, where a wide variety of TV shows and movies are available for download.

Last but not least, Nintendo claims that it is not involved in the console war at all, but is merely doing its own thing and going its own way. David Yarnton, Nintendo UK's general manager, said, "We are not fighting our competitors, we are fighting apathy... Instead of trying to improve technology for its own sake, we decided to focus on those who weren't even playing games, who weren't on the radar."

Yarnton thinks that the Wii is "inclusive, not exclusive" and that it will drive sales outside of the usual "teenage boys." However, one thing that may hinder Nintendo's home run this Christmas is that even if everyone wants one, no one can seem to find one on the shelves.

ANALYSE ME

So how are game-industry analysts handicapping the ongoing console war? Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities believes that the PS3 is going to come out ahead in this cycle--eventually. He explains, "I believe that the Blu-ray functionality built into the PS3 has greater value to a wider number of consumers than does Xbox Live or the fun factor of the Wiimote... Had all three launched at the same time and price, I think the PS3 would have been ahead from the beginning."

However, Pachter puts his odds on the Wii winning this holiday season, simply because of the price. He told GameSpot, "Wii will win this Christmas, because of price. Xbox 360 will finish second, and PS3 a not-so-distant third, again because of the price."

Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets agrees that the Wii is likely to have the merriest Christmas. He said, "For this holiday, the Wii clearly has a lot of momentum." He stated that the console will end up on more lists to Santa because of its cheaper price and strong marketing and because it reaches a broader market than "traditional" consoles like the 360 and PS3. He continued, "Clearly, many consumers are showing that they place a higher value on accessible and straight-forward gameplay and less on high-definition graphics and leading-edge processing power."

However, Sebastian doesn't believe that the race is predictable beyond the immediate future, and he thinks that at this stage any of the three consoles could still end up on top. He said, "It's very early in the cycle, so calling a winner in the console battle may be somewhat premature... Looking ahead to the remaining years of the cycle, we could see a more distinct segmentation of the video game console market. That is, Nintendo selling into a larger market of casual gamers, while Sony and Microsoft battle it out over the traditional core gamers. In terms of market share, I think it's safe to say we will see an even playing field versus the domination of Sony the last time round."

DEVELOPING

All three consoles have their fans and detractors within the industry. The platform that seems to have gathered the most opinions on both sides is Nintendo's Wii, which has been at the front of the firing line due to its runaway success. Electronic Arts was one of the first companies to come out and say that it regretted not supporting the format more heavily from the start.

John Riccitiello, EA CEO, commented, "[This transition has been] harder because of the complexity, and much harder because, unfortunately, we bet a little bit on the wrong horse in focusing so much on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and to a lesser degree on the Wii. And let me assure you that almost all of us in the industry made the same judgment. So after so many transitions of guessing exactly right, we got this one a little bit wrong, and we're dealing with that now with strong investments on the Wii."

Square Enix president and CEO Yoichi Wada has gone on the record about his own opinion of the Wii. He believes the console has changed the gaming environment completely and called consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 "overengineered" and "too complex." He said, "There are too many specs--and you also need a high-definition TV, a broadband connection, and a deep knowledge of gaming. These consoles are mismatched to today's environment. In a year or two years, they will fare better."

However, not everyone has been so kind about Nintendo's little console. Sega's US vice president, Scott Steinberg, said that he was "concerned about the depth of the Wii pool." The Sega executive expressed concerns that developers would run out of ideas and that the console might be just a fad. He said, "How much value can developers and creative folks get out of this wrist motion two years from now, or five years from now, or 10 years from now? The Wii will start to look really dated in a couple of years when developers get more value from the 360 and learn more about the PlayStation 3." However, Steinberg later "clarified" his statement by saying, "I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on Sega and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag."

Possibly the most famous Wii skeptic is Developer 9 founder Chris Hecker, who gave his controversial opinion at this year's Game Developers Conference. He told the stunned audience, "Everyone loves the Wii. 'Oh, God, the Wii, we love the Wii so much...' The Wii is a piece of ****. Nintendo have uncovered the secret to Wii manufacturing. The way you manufacture a Wii is you take two GameCubes and some duct tape." He then continued on his tirade to accuse Nintendo of not caring about games as an art form and praised Sony and Microsoft for taking them seriously.

However, Hecker later issued a statement retracting his comments, saying, "I do not think the Wii is ****." Hmmm...

Gary Chambers, creative director at Introversion, told GameSpot his personal favourite is the Wii, because, "You can say the controller is just a gimmick or whatever, but I think it adds a lot to the console, and games like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition are just fantastic. I can't imagine playing them on any other system. I'd love to develop a game for the Wii. I think there is incredible potential for some very unique games, even if it hasn't completely been realised by the industry yet."

However, the developer admitted that although he personally liked the Wii, the PS3 was, in his opinion, likely to ultimately win the war. He said, "The PS3 will win this generation, just as the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 did before it. The Wii is doing incredibly well all over the world, and the 360 got off to a great head start, but ultimately I think the vanity of the modern gamer is going to win out and the PS3 is going to be the console providing the best visuals. As soon as the price drops to a range which the average person can afford, I think we'll see PS3 sales skyrocket right past the competition."

David Jaffe, cofounder of Eat Sleep Play and creator of Sony's God of War series, is also cautious on the Wii, believing that although it is currently the console du jour, things could shift in favour of another very fast. He told GameSpot, "It's easy to say today who the winner is, and that would be Nintendo hands down. But you're starting to notice the winds are blowing in other directions these days. Whether these winds will be strong enough to shift the leadership position in the marketplace is hard to say."

Famed game designer American McGee is more secure in his opinion. He casts his vote decisively for the Wii and told GameSpot in an interview, "From the beginning of this most recent (re)cycle, I've had my money on the Wii. In my opinion, Sony and Microsoft didn't do anything truly innovative this last time around--just your standard hardware upgrade. The success they've seen with online downloadable content was, by their own admission, an unexpected fluke. But Nintendo made a distinct statement about what constitutes a games console, game controller, and play experience. In a sense they removed themselves from 'the war' and created their own playfield." As to second place, he thinks that will go to the 360. He said, "This is mostly because I think Microsoft established a strong early lead with sales and content, and Blu-ray will ultimately fail as a standard."

ALL HAVE A PLACE

A fair few people chose to sit on the fence and show love to everyone. Miles Jacobson, managing director of Sports Interactive, told GameSpot, "I think all three machines are really good, and all of them are going to have exclusive titles on them that you'll want to play... I'm very fortunate in that I've got all three consoles at home, and they all get played. The Wii tends to get played when friends who are nongamers come round, the 360 tends to get played by me, and the PS3 tends to get played by my mates who are gamers because they haven't got one yet... The real winner in the console war is the consumer--how cheesy is that? Well, as long as they can afford to get all three, I suppose."

Jonathan Smith, development director at TT Games, has much the same opinion. He told GameSpot, "The 'console war' is over, and the winner is gamers, who now have more choice than ever."

Turbine Games executive producer Jeffrey Steefel agreed, saying, "What's interesting with the consoles right now is that they're so different. In the past, the console wars have been perceived as just nine versions of the same thing. But they really are this time, completely different, and I think each one draws a different crowd... So now you've got stratification of the consoles, which I think is great for the consumer. It's never existed before."

Ed Daly, studio head at Zoe Mode, also prefers a diplomatic approach. He said, "I hope that across different territories and with different audiences, all three can compete healthily, which is good for consumers and good for developers... At Zoe Mode, we've worked with Sony on Sony platforms, and I've never bought into some of the negativity around PS3. With the likes of Home still to come, I feel the ambition and vision of PS3 could exceed a lot of current expectations." But for Nintendo, "The hard question is whether Nintendo's strategy and Wii software sales can continue to succeed over the lifetime of this generation. Personally, I hope it does."

'THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE'

Some developers think that the current system war will end in a stalemate, with no single format being named a clear winner, contrary to previous hardware cycles.

Denis Dyack, president of Silicon Knights, put the idea forward during his talk at this year's Leipzig Games Convention Developers Conference. Dyack explained to the audience that he believed it to be inevitable that there would eventually be a generic "video game machine," much the same way as there currently are DVD players.

Dyack called the process commodification, and he believes "all technology, under any circumstance, becomes commodified." He explained that there was no clear winner in this generation's system war and that this was leading to problems for developers. He said, "Nintendo has come out of the gate much faster than everyone anticipated, but how about longevity? The 360 is doing well in America, but not so well in Japan. The PS3 is off to a really slow start but they have a good brand name, so the truth is, no one knows... And trying to make a game on all three systems is very challenging, and I don't know many, if any, people that are doing that right now."

After his keynote address, several other members of the gaming industry admitted that they, too, would sleep easier at night if there were just the one console to contend with. Electronic Arts' head of international publishing, Gerhard Florin, also advocates a single, open platform and commented, "We want an open, standard platform which is much easier than having five which are not compatible." However, Florin thinks this is a ways off, giving the timeline as up to 15 years.

Katamari Damacy director Keita Takahashi also agrees, and he told GameSpot, "I want to see only one major console being retailed on the market, and everyone actually making games for just one console, and bring the price of that console down from what the three currently cost right now."

JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS

2008 looks set to be a huge year in gaming, with a wider range of choice open to consumers than ever before. Video gaming is no longer a niche industry, and its sales are making a noticeable impact on economies all over the world.

It remains to be seen which console will come out on top, or if different consoles will trump different regions, or whether all three will manage to somehow peacefully coexist. Perhaps, even, as Denis Dyack predicts, one day soon the term "system wars" will be irrelevant as a generic "video game machine" comes to market, and developers will have to worry about developing for only one platform, ensuring that everyone with that platform has access to every game.

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Spongebob4Prez
Spongebob4Prez

I love you fanboys, keep on fighting over (very very fun) hunks of plastic that do the same (very fun) thing. It's quite hilarious.

jimmmzerx
jimmmzerx

This is a hard question, which console will win the war. I don't think the Wii will have the lead forever. The 360 rivals the Wii in sales in America, but is doing poorly in Japan, which will probably stop the 360 from making 1st place, even if it does have great games like Halo and Xbox Live. The PS3 is going to start a comeback when the price drops. So my eyes are set on the PS3 or Wii, even though the 360 is my favorite system.

Compilation
Compilation

I own a Playstation 3, and now own an Xbox 360 - in Actuality belongs to another household member. I have also played the Wii on several occasions round many friends’ houses in quantities. These friend's who own Wii consoles would not pass as gaming veterans or adepts, so really, it's different playing systems for different personalities. For me, I’m not intensely into gaming, but I would never deny a weekly craving in realism gaming, and would find myself playing a ‘good’ game, for 3-4 hours now and again. All 3 systems have pro's and con's, that will be inevitable. But because I’m an artistic type of person, quote on Nintendo 'not caring about games as an art form and praised Sony and Microsoft for taking them seriously', I personally have a higher preference for Next gen consoles, like PS3 and Xbox 360 for this matter. Because I’m a lot more familiar with a PS3 than the 360, particularly because of its gaming criteria for 2008, LittleBigPlanet, PS Home, and what not, I will probably always stick with PS3. I also think most the commenter’s on this page haven't even recognized the Console wars article. Before you blurt out anything negative, try to keep your opinions correct. Don't refer to other URL's for people’s opinionated overrated descriptions of gaming consoles. Stick to your own, and stop following fan boy trends.

KlausRottingham
KlausRottingham

PS3 is not dead. Xbox 360 is not dying. And the Wii will continue to sell 15 billion units a week. I only own an Xbox 360 but I it is obvious to see that the PS3 has good games and a good system. I seriously don't understand fanboys, there is enough hatred towards gaming outside of the actual community for there to be pathetic 'wars' inside the community.

Vasot
Vasot

gamerkiduri the ultimate PS3 fanb*y speaks ""Ps3 hAs BetTer GaMezzzzzz 1111"" ""BlUrAyZzzz RUllEzzzzzz 1111" Hahaha some ppl are just pathetic !!! Actually Xbox360 has better games and more is coming just take a look here : http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=19165 PS3 is DEAD !!!

gamerkiduri
gamerkiduri

i hve all three, but my 360 got red ring of death so i sucks. i luv my ps3 and wii but i luv my ps3 a bit more.ps3 rullz. its got better games then xballls. we hve mgs4,god of war3,ferrari challenge,motorstorm,gt5,mag,pshome,littlebigplanet,godfather,wipeout,r and c,sly,jak and daxter, dc universe,killzone2,resistance2,heveanly sword,ngs,dynasty warriors, lair,pain,haze,velvet assasin,infamous,warhawk,socom,time crisis4,ff versus, tekken6,untold legends, kingdome hearts and many many more. and wat does 360 hve. nothing! gaylo is old. gears is also on pc.

gamerkiduri
gamerkiduri

justsumrandmguy:ps3 has more and better games then xballs360 in everyway.we hve better fps,racing,platformers,action.......and bluray does matter cause if mgs4 was on 360 it would ave been on 10 discs.

justsumrandmguy
justsumrandmguy

This is stupid no one system is ultimate they all have their advantages and yes they have disadvantages as see it the games vary on the systems, more shooters on 360, more rpgs on ps3, and variety on wii.

homestarmy6
homestarmy6

i still have my 360 from launch date and i never had the red lights of death so i mean people just dont know how to take care of their consoles and uh yeah blu-ray is for media purposes not games so it doesn't matter...btw i own all 3 systems and i think they all have advantages and disadvantages...cept xbox live owns all...

BorkaBonum
BorkaBonum

Blu-Ray is not a format for games. Why so? If we talk about Blu-Ray and games it's only the PlayStation 3 that appears. And what's the problem with that? The PlayStation 3 Blu-Ray reader is too slow to handle the information required to run the game without at times requiring the user to install certain partions of the game on the harddrive (Haze required 5GB of installed data). You could argue this with "I could always install a 500GB harddrive for my PlayStation 3", but yet again the value of the system will then be severely crippled compared to the Xbox 360. As a platform the PlayStation 3 is the top, but as a more dedicated gaming platform the Xbox 360 is undoubtably in a significant head regarding library and approachable hardware, while the Nintendo Wii just is with the new approach - on good and bad. Here in Europe I can't see how the Wii is selling, there's very little solid games and they're all full-priced and the unit itself is more expensive than a Xbox 360 Premium. And regarding Xbox 360 "breakability", I've never in my life witnessed a Xbox 360 have any technical issues - and I have a bunch of friends with the launch-units based on the 90nm core. Though I can see the unit have problems regarding heat when put inconviniently, but this is a mere user-error as it doesn't make any sense to put any technical device of this calibre inside a box or a poorly ventilated spring.

mastiffchild
mastiffchild

I've had all three but now only have PS3 and a Wii. I just plain got sick of my 360 breaking all the damn time. there's no point in having great title if half the time your console doesn't work. Don't get me wrong when it worked I played it as much as the others purely because of some great games(Gears, Halo etc)but taking a console back six times in a year is too much. I even held on after hearing that the power brick and solder issues(among the niriad excuses offered by Microsoft for the failures)had been sorted-but it made no difference and it still kept dying on me. that's my only problem with any of the three, and , to me demonstrates Microsofts disdain for it's customers and I had enough of being sold shonky goods(AND BELIEVE ME i LOOKED AFTER THEM LIKE ROYALTY). Fair enough though I enjoy both I have left for different reasons(I rate Resi 4 higher on the Wii than on PS2,) but feel the extra depth the PS3 offers in its games is ultimately more rewarding. And hell if you love your 360(I did when it loved me back)and it works for you I can see no reason for not doing so. They all have great points but I felt cheated by M$ in the end.

Belwar555
Belwar555

1) I refuse to include the Wii in the system war, since its nothing like the current next-gen consoles, thus can't be called one. Its not worse, its just different (though i dont like it much) 2) Better graphics? Blu-ray? Wait, we have movies and animations right now, so a game which has graphics as good as say GoW is already great, and there is no need to make them better, just for the sake to say to rivals "Hey, my game has better graphics". This, in my opinion, means that the xbox is equal to the PS3 in terms of looks. The games are ment to be played, not stared at. 3)With haze being an utter failure, and the only PS3 exlusive game that is a must-own is MGS 4, and xbox having GoW, Halo, Fable, Mass effect, the xbox stands on the top of the PS3 in one most important factor, the most important one, the one we gamers REALLY care about - the games. So, right now, the xbox is ahead of the PS3. Later on? Well, we are undoubtebly comming close to the 8 gen consoles. Microsoft is surley using their head start to make the next console, which will overtake the PS3 in everything, increasing the gap between them. BTW, i do only own an xbox, so i might be a bit biased.

ominimon123
ominimon123

blu ray made Sony's games "Immortal" from being "COPIED" or pirated. like MGS4, Microsoft was gonna get it but it was just too big for HD DVD. lol i think MGS4 creators told Sony to get Blu-ray XD

Itachi11432
Itachi11432

ummm blu ray does not suck, if it sucks how come HD is finished?

BLuFAlc0n
BLuFAlc0n

to ZeeAlien or anyone who thinks that the wii won't win the 7th gen wars** First of all, not most of the games are for kids, it's for everyone, second of all, the wii is outselling the 360 and the ps3, third, wii has non kiddie games as well, more hardcore than any game in 360 or ps3 like manhunt 2 and madworld, and so what if wii isn't hd 'like' the ps3 and the 360, the Wii is super original!!!!!! and Wii has games like Brawl, Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Resident Evil, and many more, the Wii don't make sound engine noise like the 360 or ps3 when playing games(ps3 occasionally does it), nor having the 'red ring of death', nor overheating!!! Unlike the 360 designed for goths or blood loving gamers, as most of it's games have blood in it, as it was made by the demon itself, ps3, I own one, actually good, but lacking very good games, as it only has MGS4 as it's killer app. and the Wii is just for everyone, from babies, to grand parents! as I said again, the Wii is original and special, that makes the Wii, the BEST console ever made!!!!

ZeeAlien
ZeeAlien

i dont think the wii has a chance in the console wars because most of the games are for kids first of all and it cant play dvds i think the ps3 has the best chance because its not making 20 diffrent versions like the 360 i mean a hi-def player version a halo 3 version the 360 elite plus with the new medal gear solid coming out the other two have no chance

stooge55
stooge55

apparently xbox is going to suck as well, they're getting blue-ray

100starz
100starz

blu-ray sucks who cares about it?

stooge55
stooge55

I like all three systems because they all have a few games that no one should trash like MGS4, SSBB, and Gears of War , but I prefer ps3 because it has similar games to the 360 but I think the 360 is already reaching the end of it's life while the ps3 is still sort of new.

stooge55
stooge55

I like all three systems because they all have a few games that no one should trash like MGS4, SSBB, and Gears of War , but I prefer ps3 because it has similar games to the 360 but I think the 360 is already reaching the end of it's life while the ps3 is still sort of new.

stooge55
stooge55

I like all three systems because they all have a few games that no one should trash like MGS4, SSBB, and Gears of War , but I prefer ps3 because it has similar games to the 360 but I think the 360 is already reaching the end of it's life while the ps3 is still sort of new.

mightylikearose
mightylikearose

i have a ps3 and a wii, and i have to say that i enjoy wii much more! i loved the elder scrolls 4: oblivion - not exclusive. gta 4 is pretty freakin' sweet - not exclusive. today, i was playing ratchet and clank future, and it started to really piss me off how it was just like the ps2 ratchet games, only shinier! sony and microsoft, imo, have done nothing to ADVANCE gaming, they have just made everything look prettier. no more heroes and super mario galaxy have seriously MADE MY GAMING YEAR!!!!! they may be few and far between, but the wii's exclusives are genuinely amazing games. the ps3 has been a total letdown the entire time i have had it. if you really want an hd gaming experience, go and pay someone to build you a gaming computer!!! then you can have practically all of the ps3 and x360 titles in 1080p and you'll have a machine that you can upgrade. that would be ideal. but as far as consoles go, i am getting the most out of my wii.

gah468
gah468

thanks gamespot for fueling the comsole war. I honestly dont give a **** about this console war i love my 360 and u ps3 fanatics, i accednilly forgot to turne off 360 for 10 hours and i did not get a red ring of death

sludge12345
sludge12345

Wtf i heard xbox will hav blue ray but sony created wtf. Also the xbox and ps3 arent over engineered

Generalmojo
Generalmojo

hopefulllt ps3 becomes supreme MGS4 was a big hit

iesexywarden
iesexywarden

most people have wiis because its cheap and looks appealing. I once wanted a Wii because i was having so much fun one night. After playing it for a week straight i was like WTF this thing sucks. Most people have Wii's, but little like it compared to ps3/xbox (these "facts" are from people i ask around town, personal convos, ect). Sure Wii is pumping out kiddy and family friendly games (good for nintendo making there money). Im in no way saying they made a crappy system, its just not "gaming". Ps3/360 offers "real" titles, online gaming, ect. Wii is for kids, ps360 is for adults (rated M games, ect). Ps3 and 360 arent overengineered, just made for there perspective gaming market, thats all. if the world wants to be all full of Wii's where everyone owns one, i have no problem with it (good job nintendo for lasting all these years and still rockin'!) but i wont be part of that wii crowd (i have no intrest in it).

money117
money117

I'm a big fan of 360 but I also have Wii. No ps3. this is what most people will have. a regular console that is only an improved version of its predecessor and then they'll want the reall next gen gaming which is the Wii. I also agree mowtownboy i have the Wii but i barely play it now. it just ctahes the attention which is all that is needed to boost sales.

crszn962015
crszn962015

Wii is most likely to win because of lots of titles (almost 1000!) and a lower price. Alth ough 360 and PS3 are catching up, there is no guarantee.

RockaWuzHur
RockaWuzHur

motownboy Awsome name! And I completley agree with you, people intially buy the WIi believing that it will provide fun for the entire family, which it does, but not for very long. The Wii is fun for a couple of months but then it gets very, very boring.

iesexywarden
iesexywarden

ya i guess ill agree. Only reason wii is winning is b/c of price and the "first glance". Which dont get me wrong, Nintendo is smart. However, Roughly all the 23 people I know who owns a wii, regrets it. There biggest hit (brawl) doesnt even use the wii mote (uses gc controller). The wiimote can be used, but its harder. Anyways, wii is a cool "party" game, but thats it. 360 roughly only has a 50 dollar cheaper price, and live. Ps3 revamped there store, making it competetive with marketplace. Romours has it that ps3 ingame xmb is releasing in like 1-2 weeks, and home beta in fall. This is ultimatly dominate the "functions" of xbl, however not the 'speed'. With sony releasing Qore and its jam packed of features, i think many people will bbuy it (25 bucks a year or 3 bucks an issue) leading to a better online program. Who will win, i dont know? i tend to think ps3 because its more "next gen" but who knows?

motownboy
motownboy

Wii games have no depth, and I was reading somewhere where Wiis get returned twice as much as X360s and PS3s combined due to the fact that it's fun originally, but it's always more of the same cartoony stuff. I've only had a 360 but played a decent amount of the Wii and PS3. I think the 360 is great because of all the titles and the PS3 is also pretty good because the bugs are getting worked out.

m22386
m22386

Guys i dunno wht i can say i wana to buy ps3 next week but i dunno i had xbox 360 from a year and am afraid that there is a games will not be on xbox 360 thats why am gona to buy ps3 so if any one know anything about this thing plzz inform me as soon as can so plz help me guys buy or not ?????????

bulletwaster
bulletwaster

i like all 3 systems but my favourite is the 360 because of the games the wiis games are all kids games (with some exceptions) and the ps3 only has uncharted and metal gear solid 4. I would get all 3 if i could though.

Dlarrain
Dlarrain

I thing that the Wii is far the best sistem, perhaps it don´t have the best graphics but it have the best games and programs. A lot of fantastic games can get out for Wii. It also have the Wi ware, the virtual console, a lot of chanels and the NGC games.

akiwak
akiwak

haze what a disgrace. It's ok we have other exclusives that will help, not giving up on PS3 and no way will I bash the 360. Their are games on both sides that I would like to play. Fanboys always make me laugh.

scrapp_dogg
scrapp_dogg

Razac17, you can take back HAZE from your 'all mighty' List.

starwarsnut7591
starwarsnut7591

im so glad i bought a 360,wii has no good games save ssbb and ps3 is a joke

The_SithGod
The_SithGod

Microsoft better put it on the 360 or ill be so pissed the words id use to discribe it would get my ass banned

Gloveman08
Gloveman08

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AgentA-Mi6
AgentA-Mi6

Metal Gear Solid 4: Victory of the Ps3

Razac17
Razac17

Haze, MGS4, GT5, god of war 3, little big planet, motorstorm 2 , resistance 2, should i keep going?

wiidominance
wiidominance

One standard open platform console = a PC plugged to the TV, end of story. The developers are only thinking what would make life easier for them and not for the industry as a whole. An open platform console is not the way to go (apart from a PC plugged to a TV), its not in the consumers interest. No competition, no variety and most importantly, no Fanboys !!! Oh noes, that ultimate nightmare ....

PowerBrawler
PowerBrawler

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