Sony rules out always-online for PS4 - Report

PlayStation 4 to avoid always-connected approach because "many countries don’t have robust Internet connections."

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Sony has ruled out making always-online functionality a core part of its next home console, according to an interview in the latest issue of Game Informer magazine.

Sony president of Worldwide Studios, Shuhei Yoshida, said that a constant Internet connection would not be required from users, given the differences in web services available across the globe.

“Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it," said Yoshida. "The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet.”

Microsoft is believed to be preparing to lift the veil on its own next-generation hardware offering on May 21. Months of rumour and speculation originally suggested that the next Xbox may require users to be connected to the internet at all times. However, a recently-uncovered, leaked internal memo reportedly sent to the Xbox development team suggests that the company’s next device will not require users to be online to watch live TV, view movies, or play single-player games.

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monkeyman_440
monkeyman_440

Never understood why you would need an always on connection to play OFFLINE games in the first place.  You buy a game, used or otherwise, why the hell would we need to be on the internet at all to play them OFFLINE?

Ayzed
Ayzed

I hope you don't have to re connect every 24 hours then like you will with the xbone

Superw33d
Superw33d

hope this holds true.....ps4 is lookin like a better console to opt for as of now

Erroneous_Snake
Erroneous_Snake

Really sick of all the butthurt fanboys. Oh sony is just wording their true motive carefully? Sounds like nothing more than sour grapes from the people that have absolutely nothing to justify microsofts idiotic idea. Honestly, I wasn't impressed, but I still thought it was alright until all the crap about the authentication checks and the sloppy explanation of how used games will be handled. It's all just an unnecessary complication that doesn't benefit the gamer at all, I'm glad killing the used game market was more important to microsoft than delivering a convenient gaming experience. 

pete420630
pete420630

how can you people choose a console on a teaser show really people if microsoft announces illumiroom half the people talkin shit would poop themself too early to choose o wait i dont have to i work ill buy em both

RussellGorall
RussellGorall

Boooooooooo!


Oh, wait... yeah!


Everything gaming news for the past week has been terrible, I am used to booing.

CaveManCobb
CaveManCobb

Xbox One doesn't require a constant internet connection either. Sony is wording everything they say very carefully because everyone is throwing a fit right now.

WingChopMasta
WingChopMasta

Ok so if Sony realized and stated that they "SAW" that a lot of countries still do not have good enough internet access to make an always online console. WTF was MS looking at then? I guess they got their Zune and Internet Explorer team working out the logistics this time around huh? 

adders99
adders99

this and many other reasons is why I will more than likely getting a PS4 and not a Xbox One....

Drunkvampiresex
Drunkvampiresex

Only after this did microsoft downplay their always online support.

Dororo22
Dororo22

Great news, but either way im buying both consoles, I always make sure to buy all consoles so I don't miss out on great exclusives. I haven't bought a Wii-U yet though, I'll get one once a great exclusive game actually comes out for it...

kungfuj0
kungfuj0

$299 (or less) is preferable.  $399 is as high as I will go, and that is pushing it.  Any higher than that, and I'll just play what I have on 360 and pc (and maybe get a ps3 for cheap) until the price drops kick in. 

I am no longer the guy who just HAS TO HAVE the latest of the latest.  That is a fool's game these days with the way things are going.

predator4965
predator4965

Even if Microsoft finally gave in and made it not always online, I'd still rather have a Playstation 4 because whenever all those bad rumors came up about the upcoming Xbox, Microsoft did absolutely nothing to stop its fans from getting upset; be it from denying the rumors or giving them an explanation why they wanted to take that approach and to me that is just downright lousy management. Not to mention all the bad experiences I had with overheating xbox's and its horrible games (lately anyway).

gamerboy100
gamerboy100

(sigh) When are people going to learn the difference between always-on and always-online?

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

One day a console or other platform will demand always online, but it won't be this gen and I seriously doubt it will be next gen and possibly it will even skip the gen after that.

I've always had a decent internet connection. While it isn't lighting fast it has been stable to the point where it hasn't died for probably more than 24h in the last three/four years. I always presumed that this was standard in developed countries. It seems I was wrong. Until the majority of people have stable internet, it won't be made compulsory.

Sony and Microsoft aren't stupid, even suggesting they would do something which is almost guaranteed to see them dead in the water by about December 2013, is laughable.

I think it is time we get back to the good stuff, the next gen consoles are coming out! They have 8 core processors! And the games we have had the pleasure of seeing glimpses of look sweet. Lots of potential for some really fun games. That is all that really matters.

Hey_Jay
Hey_Jay

They are just really coming off strong after Microsoft's PR disaster. No one looks as good as Sony does, right now.

Redblaze27
Redblaze27

This was day-one announcement news.

pmamba45
pmamba45

Shuhei Yoshida, We salute you! MS, build the product based on consumer practicality not pacing the consumer to your targets goals..

aldronlin
aldronlin

so far, PS4 is winning my hard earn money...

Zeeksie
Zeeksie

@CaveManCobb It still requires a "check in" every 24 hours, same shit in my book.

nitchz
nitchz

@WingChopMasta Microsoft doesn't care about the rest of the world. Microsoft cares about the U.S. market. Not having an internet connection here really isn't too much of an issue for most people who can afford the console.

CaveManCobb
CaveManCobb

@Drunkvampiresex They did yes. It only has to be connected once every 24 hours. I'm betting ps4 has something similar. Just because you don't need a constant internet connection doesn't mean you won't have to connect at some point.

SniperFire17
SniperFire17

@Albaficas Terrible hackable online service, even worse dashboard and a laggy buggy next gen Elder Scrolls game awaits.

TibLion
TibLion

@kungfuj0 Sorry to destroy your dreams, but a game seller in my country has listed the Xbox One at 1999,90 RON which means around 500 US$.

dman123_1
dman123_1

@predator4965 But MS always does that with EVERY rumor. It is nothing new. They simply don't respond to rumors until they are ready to.I don't think that it is lousy management, they shouldn't have to blabber about every rumor that is out there the moment it comes out. They have a reveal and simply the questions will hopefully be answered then. Sony didn't answer it until their reveal, why must MS be punish because they are doing the same? We forget this always online requirement has been going on for over a year and the same people who are saying "i'm getting the PS4" were saying they will stop playing videos games altogether..

100proofsoco
100proofsoco

@gamerboy100 I cant be the only one that has no idea what your talking about. .

I have never heard of "always on"  online yes, "on" no. 

on what? seriously....

JayQproductions
JayQproductions

@Hey_Jay Until people learn they are just wording their statements carefully. Just like when they said the PS4 won't block used games, it's true the console itself won't block used games but Sony is leaving that up to the publishers so if a publisher wants to block a used copy of their game on the PS4 they will. Just like there will be "always online" games on the PS4 but the PS4 itself won't require an internet connection which is more than likely the same thing the next Xbox will do.

C_A_G_E
C_A_G_E

@pmamba45 why the praise? For talking about a system they have already revealed. MS has not issued any comments officially because they have not had an official reveal. 

tmrtyn
tmrtyn

@anomaly3001 They did, a couple of days ago...sorry I can't be bothered looking for a link to the article, but I definitely read it here.

ominous_prime
ominous_prime

@aldronlin Versus what? Nothing has been announced from Microsoft yet, and the Wii U was released last year. Did you buy a Wii U? If not, there isn't anything to compare the PS4 with other than that.

CaveManCobb
CaveManCobb

@Zeeksie Like I said they are wording everything very carefully so Sony fanboys don't cry.

TibLion
TibLion

@SniperFire17 @Albaficas Says the guy who has to pay to play online, has a Windows 8-based dashboard on his console and less powerful hardware. Let's not forget the lack of exclusives.

gamerboy100
gamerboy100

@100proofsoco 

I wasn't necessarily talking about here, but I see both being used as synonyms almost everywhere. The difference is that "always-on" means the system never shuts off, while "always-online" means that an Internet connection is required. Sorry, it just drives me nuts.

surferosh
surferosh

@JayQproductions   yeah but that is the publisher's prerogative.. let us not bash the console manufacturer for that.. be it sony, MS or Nintendo.. 

pmamba45
pmamba45

@C_A_G_E @pmamba45 Adam Orth resigned with no reveal yet I would've thought highlights a companies undiplomatic approach.

CaveManCobb
CaveManCobb

@RussellGorall @CaveManCobb @Zeeksie Never said they were crying. They have announced next to nothing about the system and are keeping tight lipped about shit like this. Other than to release carefully worded statements about always online and used games issues. I'm not crying because I'm not an idiot.

D1nePenn
D1nePenn

@RussellGorall @JayQproductions What Jay said is precisely correct though.  Sony is simply being smart by "leaving" it up to the publishers.  Microsoft and Sony will collude in order to assist developers in making more money which allows developers to stay in business and in turn make them more money.  Sony has just been smarter about their public statements.

M3o5nster
M3o5nster

@ominous_prime You make it seem like late last year was a long time ago... Of course the Wii U is in direct competition with the PS4. As far as the Nextbox goes, it doesn't matter what they announce, because I already know Sony has the exclusives I'll be looking forward to.

Fable, Halo, & Gears of War aren't my kinda games.

ominous_prime
ominous_prime

@Mendax2013 @ominous_prime @aldronlin If there is one person running, it isn't a race is the point. I'll be less subtle in the future. That's like saying oxygen gets my money when there is nothing else you can breath to live off of.