Sony reverses controversial PS4 Driveclub upgrade deal

Original plan "was not appropriate," Sony says; you can now keep the full game even if your PS Plus subscription runs out.

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On Wednesday, Sony announced that PlayStation Plus subscribers who downloaded a copy of a special PS Plus version of PlayStation 4 racing game Driveclub could upgrade to the full version for $50--$10 less than retail. Otherwise, all subscribers get a stripped down version of the game for free. But what sounded like a good upgrade deal became problematic when Sony also said that you'd lose access to the full game's content if your PlayStation Plus subscription lapsed. As you'd expect, fans spoke out against this policy.

Sony has now reversed that decision. In a statement posted on the PlayStation Blog, Sony writes: "Our priority for Driveclub is to enable you to play and enjoy everything it has to offer and PlayStation recognises that the prior plan for Driveclub entitlement for the upgrade to the PS Plus edition was not appropriate. As a result, we have adjusted the PlayStation Plus terms for Driveclub. Now, If you intend on downloading Driveclub PlayStation Plus Edition, and upgrading to the full game experience, you will have access to the full game even if your PlayStation Plus subscription runs out."

Driveclub launches October 7 only on PS4. For more, be sure to read GameSpot's previous coverage, including our interview with the game's director, Paul Rustchynsky.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
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Discussion

372 comments
croxus
croxus

I think that was a misinterpetation, Sony has never done smth like that before!

Maybe they are trying to avoid some paying for a one month PSN+ fee, plus the extra fee for the full version and get it cheaper than the retail price.

If the fee to upgrade the PSN+ version from the limited to full was only 10$ and the fee from the limited, to the unlimited version was $50. Then it would be of benefit for the regular PSN+ users to have the full game for just 10$, as they renew their annual contract anyway...

I guess we will never know, which was the best deal now, as Sony is very respectfull of their clients...

and even if it was a misunderstanding, they wont risk upsetting them!

Navardo95
Navardo95

Well at least Sony realized its mistake quick and acted upon it instead of flipping of the fans and telling them to "deal with it" 

*cough* *cough* Orth *cough*

hystavito
hystavito

I didn't think you'd lose it in the first place, I thought Sony would keep doing the same thing with PS+, basically if you paid money for it, it's yours to keep even after the subscription ends.  Well anyway, glad they reversed it.

justerthought
justerthought

Well done Sony. Thanks for the u-turn. You are better than that. Leave those sort of scams to MS.

FoxbatAlpha
FoxbatAlpha

Sony always trying to push the limits of how much they can squeeze out of its customers.  Not one mention of DRM in the article.

troll_eat_troll
troll_eat_troll

Sony fanboys: xb180

Sony made a 180 = Sony fanboys: ........................ 

I guess I'll have to do it on behalf of sony fanboys...  PS180.

strothers101
strothers101

All of a sudden I am interested in this title again...funny how that works.

Vodoo
Vodoo

I can't believe they even tried to put one over like that. I doubt it was a mistake either. They were trying to see how much they could get away with.

opinions2
opinions2

To the best of my understanding, as long as money changed hands for the content, PS+ subscriptions can run out and you would still have access to the title.


To me this looks more like nobody at Drive Club were sure, made something up and Sony have corrected them

OneStrong2
OneStrong2

In other words, even they're not that crazy.

tableofjapan
tableofjapan

Now if only they would let you do this with all of the free PSN+ games I, along with many others have collected throughout the years.

kahnseal
kahnseal

lol. if that helps you sleep at night to believe that, by all means do it. lol. DRM was written all over this and you are in total denial. if nobody would've caught this they would have went on with it.

Hvac0120
Hvac0120

Classic example of "don't read the comments"

So much ignorance and blatant stupidity.

allever
allever

It sound like someone at Sony didn't know how PS+ worked and put out this bs policy.  Since the beginning with PS+, anything you buy at a PS+ discount is yours to keep forever.

DVONvX
DVONvX

I'm sure all the sony fanboys will pat sony on the head and telling them its ok. Yet, if MS did this same exact thing...oh what hell they would catch!

kahnseal
kahnseal

lol. sounds like DRM, looks like DRM, smells like DRM. smh. its funny how they made fun of MS about this last year and now they showing their TRUE colors. smh.

cantloginnow
cantloginnow

You tried so you're still a dickhead Sony.

thebeachguy90
thebeachguy90

For you Xbots out there (And they are out in full force in this article, so much for being "too busy playing on our consoles" huh?) Difference is one policy would've affected the ENTIRE console and would've changed the ENTIRE gaming industry and those policies were only dropped when they saw PS4 was demolishing Xbox on pre-orders after ignoring MONTHS of consumer backlash and throwing insults like the bratty little shits they are. 

The other would've affected a certain number of people, not millions of gamers and was dropped because Sony listened to the consumers, not because of low sales and didn't lash out towards their own consumer because things didn't go their way.  HUGE differences between both.  It's not even close.  Silly Xbox fanboys trying to drag Sony down to MS's level to make themselves feel better.

justerthought
justerthought

@FoxbatAlpha

I think you're referring to MS with the XB1 aren't you. The MS scam was way bigger than this one and a lot more cheeky. Yes Sony have done a u-turn but rightly so. I criticised the original idea because it was getting very close to the type of scam MS tried to pull. Thankfully Sony have more sense and have realised the error. I suspect the mistake was led by the Driveclub dev and Sony just went along with it. That was morally wrong.

justerthought
justerthought

@troll_eat_troll

There are u-turns and then there are U-TURNS. It's all a matter of scale. The MS u-turn was huge because it went right to the core of the whole XB1 vision. The Sony u-turn is just one dev getting greedy and Sony going along with it on one game. Easily cured if you have the will.

It has set a much needed precedent. Although the dev or platform holder owns the actual game content, they do not own the right to play the content if it has been purchased by a consumer. The right to play the content should be tied to the basic PSN account which the customer owns forever, not PSN Plus which is a transient subscription. Any game that has been given free as a PSN Plus member has not been paid for by the customer, so the right to play the content is a gift as long as you remain a member of the club. That is how it should be. Sony have realised the error and corrected it.

Sl4cka
Sl4cka

@troll_eat_troll The PS+ policy has been there for a while, and was applied automatically to all games received through PS+. Due to the unique nature of the upgrade deal they simply made an exception for this one particular game. So, no 180 this time, try again.

jhcho2
jhcho2

@troll_eat_troll  

This is DriveClub, not the Playstation console itself. Besides, unlike MS, Sony didn't come out and give 100 reasons why it couldn't be done, and end up doing it anyway

Sl4cka
Sl4cka

@VodooThey didn't try anything. They had a general policy that covered all PS+ games. And now, they modified that general policy to exclude this specific game:

"we have adjusted the PlayStation Plus terms for Driveclub."

hystavito
hystavito

@opinions2  I thought the same thing and even commented to people I didn't believe you'd lose the game, but the language like this suggests it was so:
"s a result, we have adjusted the PlayStation Plus terms for Driveclub."


I think if it was a misunderstanding, Sony would have definitely said something like hey that was never true, don't worry about it.


I haven't gone thru all the Friday news, so maybe I missed it, but it seems like Sony skipped over the confirmation and went right to the reversal.

justerthought
justerthought

@opinions2

Yes that sounds about right. The dev or platform holder owns the actual game content, but they do not own the right to play the content if it has been purchased by a consumer. The Drive Club dev is a bit of a shark and led Sony up the garden path. Thankfully Sony have done a u-turn once gamers pointed out the correct moral choice. There was no arrogant stance from Sony trying to defend it like MS tried to do with their huge DRM scam. Straight away Sony just put their hand up and said you're right and changed it. That's the difference between the Sony and MS versions of capitalism.

justerthought
justerthought

@kahnseal

DRM is not a dirty word unless you are a pirate. It's all down to how it is implemented. It has existed ever since computers were invented but it has been mostly transparent. When it becomes visible it starts to get restrictive and consumers feel very uneasy due to the erosion of their rights. Nobody is perfect. We all make mistakes a until someone points out the moral choice. The difference is whether they do the u-turn straight away, or try to defend it with a prolonged arrogant argument. Sony corrected it straight away. MS fought like hell until they were humiliated with a threat of customer desertion. The two faces of capitalism. The morally good and the morally bad.

Hvac0120
Hvac0120

Duh! All digital downloads on all consoles come with DRM.

tableofjapan
tableofjapan

@allever  


except for the free games. Thats one thing Microsoft does right that Sony doesn't. I wish Sony would let you keep playing your free games after your subscription runs out.

C_A_G_E
C_A_G_E

@allever  It actually sounded like they were trying to test the waters on reversing that so discounted games are tied to the account. Incentive to keep the account. Backlash made them change their minds quickly and they made the right decision. 

kahnseal
kahnseal

@allever they didn't know how their own policies work? lmao.

DVONvX
DVONvX

@b74kd3th  oh man.....you're asking for it. HERE THEY COME!!!! AHHHHH!!

kahnseal
kahnseal

@DVONvX sony just plays to the tune of the consumer. sure they're giving you the 1080p but at the cost of stable frame rates and it has been proven time and time again. bottomline. neither of these systems are as powerful, graphically as a pc will ever be.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@DVONvX  Hopefully the fanboys will get some games to play soon on both consoles so they will be distracted for a while.

allever
allever

@kahnseal You're barking up the wrong tree.  Digital games have been this way with PS3 and Xbox 360.  If people want to buy digital games, then good for them, as long that the option is there for physical copies of the games.  Which last I checked, it's there with PS4.  Might want to see a doctor for your selective memory loss.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@thebeachguy90  Only fanboys say that Xbox users are too busy playing games. The real gamers are actually on their console playing it.

Same goes for PS4.

P.S. "entire" was not the thing to put in caps. "Console" and "Gaming Industry" were. If you are going to contribute to the console war like a good little hypocritical fanboy at least get your emphasis correct.

repetitious
repetitious

Dat hypocrisy tho

Should've brought my umbrella to block them tears

allever
allever

@tableofjapan @allever I don't have a problem with the way Sony is handling the free games.  They are technically yours forever.  They aren't giving out very old games either. 

xantufrog
xantufrog

@C_A_G_E @alleverIt's stupid, because I think very few people leave once they get involved with PS+. Making themselves look bad for "encouraging" a handful of people that give up PS+ to not do so. Not worth the PR backlash

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@kahnseal @DVONvX  Truth is though, console players have never cared about that. If we did we wouldn't be console players to start with we'd be PC gamers.

I'll take a great game at 720p and 60fps any day over one at 4K and 60fps and uber lighting effects, with no improvement in the game compared to consoles (other than mods) and using a computer I have to build and maintain myself.

DVONvX
DVONvX

@kahnseal @DVONvX  that's so true. tomb raider and thief are good examples of how 1080p vs. stable framerate on ps4. I'll take the x1 version anyday. The ps4 is a great system...it just needs some great games to go with it. 

kahnseal
kahnseal

@allever @kahnseal you might wanna check sony for lying about things they always had planned then reversed when ms caught backlash for being honest about what they was trying to do.

DVONvX
DVONvX

@allever @kahnseal  not sure what this conversation is about....don't care. I do care that it is "barking UP the wrong tree." Thank you. 

thebeachguy90
thebeachguy90

@tableofjapan @thebeachguy90 Well considering most of what Xbox offers are 7 year old washed up games everyone has already played and has little to no value it's very easy to make them free. Then look at what Sony offers, there you have it. 

thebeachguy90
thebeachguy90

@Dannystaples14 @thebeachguy90 LOL Xbox fanboys are always accusing PS4 fans of trolling articles and swearing they are sooo mature.   I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.  

And no thanks, I've no interest in satisfying silly nitpickers.

rarson
rarson

@DVONvX

I get to choose my own parts, build within my own budget, and upgrade as I want to. You're stuck paying retail price for hardware that gets set aside in five years.

And I don't get viruses or "maleware" because I'm not a freaking moron. 

I'm not saying that there's no reason to buy a console, I'm saying that your perspective is totally different than mine. All of your cons are actually pros in my opinion. If you tried gaming on a 2560x1440 IPS monitor at 120 Hz, you'd probably think the difference is worth it. An HDTV really doesn't compare.

DVONvX
DVONvX

@Dannystaples14 @kahnseal @DVONvX  agreed. a couple extra $$$ is not worth those extra grass textures on PC. Consoles are great in that you buy them...and you're good for 5-7 years. No viruses, no maleware, no upgrades.  

DVONvX
DVONvX

@kahnseal @allever  "This is our Killzone 2 demo, and all this footage is completely in-game." LMAO....anyone remember that gem of a lie?