Sony getting stricter on PS3 and PSP game sharing

After November 18, PlayStation Store customers will be able to download the same game onto only two active systems instead of the current five.

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A month before the PlayStation 3's November 17, 2006, launch, Sony put a limitation on digitally distributed games for the system, allowing customers to purchase titles once, but download them to as many as five different systems. Given that most downloadable PS3 games were playable regardless of whether the purchasing profile was logged in, the system was open to groups of gamers sharing one purchase of a game instead of each buying their own.

Share and share alike. But after that, no more sharing.

Later this month--five years and a day after the PS3 launch--Sony will change that policy. In a post on the official PlayStation blog today, Sony Network Entertainment vice president Eric Lempel announced new limitations to such game sharing. After November 18, PS3 owners will be able to download and play their PSN games on a maximum of only two activated systems. Downloaded PSP games will also have the same restrictions for PSP owners.

However, the policy will not be applied retroactively, Lempel said. As a result, all content purchased before November 18 will only be subject to the previous five-system limit. Additionally, Sony plans to establish a website where customers can manage their PSN accounts and deactivate specific devices attached to their account. Currently, systems need to be deactivated through the device itself, or by calling Sony's consumer services department.

The aforementioned restrictions apply only to game content. Video content purchased through PSN can currently be moved to a single PS3 and up to three PSPs, and those limits will remain in place after November 18.

Discussion

430 comments
paulinacio
paulinacio

does anybody know if I can FILESHARE my games onto my other ps3 in the same household? I would really hate to have to purchase game twice

Micro_mas
Micro_mas

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moviequest14
moviequest14

@praack : Yes..a couple innocents might be losing on this change,but that is what happens when others act selfishly..blame the people who give away 4 free copies of a game..not the companies trying to make a profit.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@mischiefmeerkat : While I agree games aren't as good as they were even 5 years ago...yes..it actually is a crime to ''share'' games and it is called piracy.First...why don't you just invite your friend over to your house or..wait for impact..bring you ps3 over to their place? When you ''share'' your game with your friend you aren't just giving them a multiplayer usage..you are essentially giving them the ENTIRE GAME..which is one less copy being bought.And while you must have a misunderstanding on how game economics works..take some time to look through the library for psn and tell me how many of these titles are made by Sony..it isn't the multi-million dollar Sony you are ripping off (though that might be the case sometimes)..it is the indie developers (which might not even have enough to develop for retail)..thanks to players ''sharing'' games that developer might not have a check to bring home to his family,that developer might end up going bankrupt and not being able to make any more games to begin with.And since when does the finances of a company make it right to steal from them? Does the millions of dollars that Coca-Cola have justify someone stealing from them? (and whether you like it or not,giving a free copy of a game to someone that hasn't payed for it is STEALING) last time I checked stealing is stealing..and the finances of a company has nothing to do with that.

praack
praack

this will be dicy real quick, i have 2 ps3's already, if I get something I can cross over to a handheld it cannot link to all only one of the three, if I get a third ps3 I need a new account- or purchase another game cop it's the econimics- not that you might have a game and an account on a freinds machine- but that you might have more than two in your house and not but 2 copies. pressure from publishers like EA and Activision is probably involved in this decision too

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@GTA-Like_Fan actually it is very easy to activate/deavtivate the systems the option is under account management

killered3
killered3

Eh, it could've been worse. Like getting rid of sharing altogether! I think sharing between 5 systems was a bit over the top anyway. Ever heard of sharing the controller? It's a simple: "huff, huff, pass" thing, it's not a total loss.

GTA-Like_Fan
GTA-Like_Fan

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shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

here is an easy solution if you have 3 or more ps3 keep the one that you play on the most activated and deactivate the others until you want to play on them and then activate it play the game that you want then deactivate it when are done or keep all your ps3 deactivated until you want to play on it then activate then deactivate it when you are done either way it should only take at max couple of minutes unless you have to download the game that you want to play

Marscaleb
Marscaleb

@mischiefmeerkat Downloading a game onto your PS3 and a friend's PS3 does not equate to buying a game and bringing it over to your friend's house. It equates to buying a game for yourself and then stealing a second copy for your friend to play. The key difference is that when you go home afterwards you BOTH have a copy of the game, when only one copy was purchased.

Marscaleb
Marscaleb

@negativeions Restrict users? How? Oh my goodness, so now if I own five PS3's I can't have my downloaded games on all of them! Please. This is a crackdown against piracy by plugging a loophole they left open. Who even has more than one PS3 or more than one PSP that they use regularly? And it STILL is was more friendly than the DRM crap that Microsoft is pulling on their users, which ties your DLC to a specific box so you can't use it after your 360 dies again.

negativeions
negativeions

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Bog101
Bog101

I wish i could share content with friends more easily on itunes

fabz_95
fabz_95

That sucks, game sharing is awesome.

mischiefmeerkat
mischiefmeerkat

@moviequest14 what, you think it's a "crime" now to share games? If i buy a game i'm not supposed to be allowed to bring it to a buddy's house and play it with them? thats what makes games fun? bringing it to a friends house or trading him for his game. now cause of greedy billion dollar corporations like sony it's getting to the point where anyone who even lays eyes on the game will have had to pay full price, to sony, no exceptions or refunds. everytime i think about MAYBE getting a ps3, i see a new article like this. sony tightening security, removing another feature, or passing some new DRM system devs are spending more on DRM now than the games! and thats the only reason game sales are starting to fall. most games now are just crappy rehashes and generic "war titles" with 11 million dollars worth of strict security

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@DeanTaker use the website they are releasing that will allow you to deactivate them

syam32245340
syam32245340

Sharing games? I didn't know about this before :P

megakick
megakick

Sony policy is push it out fast, sell it and fix it later. Look how Sony tried to fix CD music piracy? Rootkit the program that allowed hackers to wreck your computer. Sony gives then takes it away.

DeanTaker
DeanTaker

THIS SUUUUUUCKS My 60GB died of YLOD 320GB is sounding to go down the same way. What am i spouse to do?????????

moviequest14
moviequest14

The over-whelming amount of people openly supporting or admitting to sharing games is proving Sony's point more and more with each comment.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@Darkefka : Better for them to lose 1 purchase than to currently be losing 4.I suppose that is like saying dvd's should be easier to pirate because people won't buy dvd's anyways...

Darkefka
Darkefka

@shadowhunter0 yeah but they won't make more money because those people won't buy DLC full price now,so they are infact doing LESS money by doing that it's a lose/lose situation for everyone, especially the customer (like they care wether we have what we paid for anyway)

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@Darkefka that is the reason why they are doing it is because of people like you that is only 10 bucks that they made instead of 50 and I'm pretty sure there are allot of people that do that plus the people that game share with their friends and of crouse the people the begs to game share in the forums

Darkefka
Darkefka

that's sad, it's been that way for 5 years, and that allowed me to buy DLC because I wouldn't pay for 10$ DLC so we just splitted the price for 5 thus each paying 2$ and getting the DLC, no one ever complained (except heavy rain stupid director who think second hand gaming is killing the market) why does it need to change? guess I won't be buying ANY DLC now...

cjetter
cjetter

sorry sony but youve messed up a few tmes and my trust is going down...

moviequest14
moviequest14

@Dawg9000 : You go ahead and do that....a perfect excuse for not having a valid argument....

Dawg9000
Dawg9000

@moviequest14 I'll give you my reply on why you're being ignorant and intolerant once you prove you can type with the skills of a person older than the number in your name.

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@grand17 actually it is very easy and fast to activate/deactivate right now

grand17
grand17

@WCK619 if i dl my friends game file onto my ps3 then why would i buy it? its already there and free to play...your argument is invalid

Jinzo_111887
Jinzo_111887

I kind of hope they try to counter balance the new limitation. After November 17th, everything already on the game section of PSN should be half-off forever. I paid for 5 PS3 licenses before, but now that I'm going to be paying for only 2 PS3 licenses, I think it's only fair that the price be adjusted to reflect the licenses. It should 60% off, but I'll settle for half-off.

Wakasenshi
Wakasenshi

Can not believe it's taken Sony this long to change the download policy

DeathProofDelta
DeathProofDelta

I didn't even know we could do that. Thanks Gamespot.

WCK619
WCK619

oh no, people are sharing files. Must crack down on that. Wouldn't want anyone to actually enjoy a friend's game and buy it for themselves. That would be pure madness.

GothikaGeist
GothikaGeist

Why can't they just have an online License Transfer Tool like Microsoft? All content, whether it is save data or downloadable content, is attached to your account and if the account is moved to another console just transfer all your licenses over to the new console (Licenses only cover downloadable content, not game saves, my bad). No "cosnole limit" needed. But you can only transfer licenses once per year I believe (But who changes consoles twice in the same year?).

grand17
grand17

seems like a lot of effort to deactivate a system. why not just make it 3 systems and thus preventing extreme file sharing but still allowing the higher end gamer to play to their hearts content seeing as a lot of us have 2 ps3's and when the time comes we replace one with a 3rd.

grand17
grand17

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NoHotAshes
NoHotAshes

im surprised they even allowed this in the first place to be honest

ChaosUndivided
ChaosUndivided

I don't even have my PS3 online so this is news to me. I plan to eventually for specific online Multiplayer titles exclusive to PS3. But any title that is released on all platforms its just much more simple to get it for my PC. Plus it looks better.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@AfrosRockMan : For someone who nagged at me for not responding every 30 minutes you seem to be pretty quiet right now.....

AtheistPreacher
AtheistPreacher

@Guest_1001 I feel your pain, dude. I had a 60GB model YLOD on me and I lost all my saves as well, since DRM is for some reason tied to the motherboard rather than the hard drive. So even though I had a backup, it did me no good, as you've just found out as well. But, there are a few things that should help in future. 1. Sign up for PS+, and you get to back up your saves (even "copy-protected" ones) to a remote server. You'll never lose your saves again. 2. You can stick any generic SATA laptop drive into your PS3 to get more hard drive space. This is SUPER easy to do. No technical skills required. I have a 320GB drive in my 60GB model. Best of luck with the new model... I'm pissed that they took out PS3 BC as well, but the upside is the new models use less than half the power, are quieter, and don't break nearly as often. Cheers.

Guest_1001
Guest_1001

So Sony offered me a new PS3 and I took it. I'm still pissed off at them, particularly on the issue of backwards compatibility. Plus, it took a hell of a lot of effort and my brother needing to make an account on my new PS3 just to get the Catwoman bundle pack, which I should already have had but because of Sony's red tape garbage and Rocksteady's (and others) needless overprotectiveness of DLC. This story about preventing game sharing is the one Square-Enix gave me for users not being able to share saved games when I contacted THEM the first time my PS3 broke (Sony blamed Square, Square blamed Sony ... like children and I suspect they both screwed up). I'm so jaded from the whole issue now that I can't even bring myself to get angry because, by now, this just seems like typical Sony to me; trying to dictate what we do with our own files. They do it with saved data and they're doing it with downloaded games now. And the annoying thing? It's not the two PS3s I own that I'm worried about. It's what happens when those two break. Having three PS3s that have broken before hasn't filled me with confidence about the way they do things and now, because of them and the fact that I can't exactly swap all my PS3 games for their 360 equivalents, I'm being made to bank all my hopes on a console maker that has let me down many times before and don't even seem to understand the basic fundamentals of console gaming (that of "if people buy something, they want to bloody own it").

Guest_1001
Guest_1001

@mutley89 - Like trdrstv below me, I own two PS3s too. The reason being that my old 60GB PS3 broke recently (yellow light of death) for the THIRD time and, unlike one of the previous occasions where Sony offered us an upgrade to a 160GB for no extra cost, they didn't give us the offer this time. So since my brother and I were running out of space on the 60GB, we bought a brand new 160GB. Meanwhile, I wrote an extremely lengthy complaint to Sony that dealt with not only the poor build quality of the 60GB models but no backwards compatibility on higher-memory models (meaning we pay more but ar given fewer features. We don't have enough options), the issue of needing to sign in for saved data to be recognised as belonging to users (I've lost my saved games at least once this way, from not signing in while playing. It was Final Fantasy and Uncharted, so why would I?), the X-Box removeable HDD being a better, simpler and more efficient system for storing saved games (I've lost my saved games at least once THIS way too, from not knowing the PS3's saved games couldn't be salvaged once the PS3 broke) and a few other things besides ...

maxwell97
maxwell97

@AfrosRockMan: The fact of the matter is that we started off by having this policy with 5 units. That's why I bought the consoles. More and more features that we paid for are being stripped away. Look at the Linux issue, they advertised it as part of the system's features, as they did with the PSN and the ability to play games. When they took it out in an update, we were forced to choose between Linux, or the PSN and ANY new games that required a post Linux patch, features & rights that we as consumers paid for, and are entitled." Again, I understand that you don't like it, but buying a PS3 does not mean you're "entitled" to always receive new content under the same rules forever. Sony doesn't have to provide any services for you whatsoever; if they were to shut down PSN forever tomorrow, would it be a violation of your "rights?" No - you bought a PS3, not a service contract with PSN. You got what you paid for. I'm not saying you have to LIKE the situation, but stop with the sanctimonious talk about rights and entitlement.

AtheistPreacher
AtheistPreacher

@mutley89 Like trdrstv, I legitimately own two PS3s as well. I have them hooked up side-by-side to two HDTVs. One is the original 60GB fat model that's now in semi-retirement... I only use it to play PS2 games, and to play co-op games across two screens. Not that this change in game-sharing worries me. Some content I already had to buy twice for it to work anyhow (such as, two copies of the Vietnam expansion for Bad Company 2, since you need different usernames if you're going to connect at once). And secondly, I have no interest in handing my account information to someone else so I can share games with them. Heck no. If I want something I have no problem buying it.

trdrstv
trdrstv

@mutley89 I legitimately own 2 PS3's. One of "The Dukes" (60 gb) and about a year ago I got a used 40 gb because I was in the market for a "Bluray player with Wifi and Netflix". I was need 1 more bluray player in the house and was considering a 3rd if I can get a used one cheap enough, but if they cut down activations to 2, then I'll probably get a bluray player that also does pandora and Amazon VOD instead of another PS3.

AMRgamer3
AMRgamer3

Yeah! now five years later they are putting up a website to activate or deactivate a specific device like the ps3 from their PSN accounts! Five years!

MotherBound1
MotherBound1

This doesn't really effect me at all. I just have a Wii. I'm gonna get an Xbox 360 soon. But I might get a PS3 later for the console exclusives like Little Big Planet and the PS1 Classics.