Sony cut PS Eye from PS4 to beat Xbox One price - Report

Sources say Sony originally planned $500 PS4, but scuttled plans to include camera with every unit to bring price down below Microsoft.

Multiple sources have told IGN that Sony originally planned to launch the PlayStation 4 at $500.

However, in the months leading up to E3, Sony reportedly abandoned plans to include a PlayStation Eye camera with every unit, thus bringing the price down to $400--a full $100 below Microsoft's Xbox One.

Sony did this quietly, the sources said, telling retail partners only about the removal of the camera and not mentioning the lower price to keep Microsoft in the dark.

PlayStation Eye cameras will be sold separately for $60.

By comparison, every $500 Xbox One unit will include a Kinect 2.0 camera. Microsoft has touted the new Kinect as an integral component of the Xbox One, unlike the Xbox 360 scenario, where the Kinect is an optional accessory.

A Sony representative was not immediately available to comment.

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AgentKeel
AgentKeel

I think people are missing some of the positives that the Kinect could possible offer. Most see the Kinect only for motion gaming. What about the possible ability to map your face, and place it in a game. Or using features like detecting your heartbeat to further immerse you into a game. Also it offers the added benefit of replacing a lot of button commands with voice commands, which will leave the buttons for other things. Adding more gameplay options. 

I'm choice to wait until next winter of 2014 before making a decision. Really see what each console has to offer. Sometimes more powerful isn't always better...

__Metallica
__Metallica

I'm really glad they don't ship the PS4 with the Eye, i cant think of a lot of people i know that want the eye to begin with and the fact that the price of the PS4 is €100 less is what will make the PS4 the most selling console this time around.

I dont think that MS has enough to justify the extra €100 not from my point of view anyways, and the exclusives for XOne doesn't look so incredibly great to me.

And also Sony have a lot of exclusives lined up for gamescom, and I'm more excited for Destiny that Titanfall or any of the other games MS has shown so far. And yes I know that Destiny is multiplat but id rather buy the console that has better performance and is a €100 cheaper and play the game than pay extra €100 for a console just because it ships with the Kinect and by the way has less performance.

And the people that just have to have the XOne because they loved the X 360 controller and think that the XOne controller is going to so much better that the PS4 controller is fooling themselves I really don't think that the Dualshock 4 is going to be any worse than the XOne controller. I know that the Dualshock 3 is not as comfortable as the X 360 controller but i really think that they have made the necessary changes to the Dualshock 4 to make it as good or maybe even better than the XOne controller.

And I never liked the X 360 either i had 3 give me the ring of death in i think as many years, then i decided to buy the PS3 instead and my god that was the best decision I've ever made. 

Rayrota
Rayrota

Good on Sony, selling a cheaper product and not forcing something we may not want on us.

barrica
barrica

When are we goin to have a console offering 2 remotes at launch, i mean if u buy a console surelly you want to invite friends to have a go at it? M i wrong to think this, yet Sony make sure you have plenty of stock for the release cause im goin to grab one from day one!

TheClown24
TheClown24

Quite honestly, Sony outplayed Microsoft. Simple as. 

laplace985
laplace985

Both companies are taking big risk initially to start the next generation of console wars. I plan on getting both eventually but I'm a get a ps4 at launch. If Microsoft does something amazing with the Kinect then I will get that system also. I'm definitely paying extra for a long term warranty when I get a xbox one lol. 

ToastestOs
ToastestOs

now seriously, is it in all a bad decision to not ship the Eye? I bought one for my PS3 about 2 years ago. Played with it for eh a week or so, used it to play Killzone. After that its been sitting in my closet collecting dust. Sure i was suckered in to buy one, which now i regret. All i (and probably over 80% of gamers) want is just a controller, not some gimmicky piece of tech which will probably only temporarily spark your interest. I'm happy its not being shipped with the console.

FilipinoFatty
FilipinoFatty

Making your product cheaper in the market will get a majority of the consumers but I'd rather go with the Xbox because of its better game selection and controller. I'm not going to be a cheapskate about having to pay an extra hundred bucks when I am getting my money's worth.

Dreizel
Dreizel

Multiple sources? Who are these multiple sources? It is plausible that a situation like this happened but not concrete. In any case this is the best way to go about it, i don't care for gaming cams, games have sucked for it and it is not worth the price so i'm glad it is not a requirement and it is not included. And the Kinetic2 for the Xbox is creppy i which they would remove it.

skipper847
skipper847

Any one remember EyeDentify for the PS3 when then was first shown and was cancelled

coaltango
coaltango

i could care less for the PS Eye.


just get me the console & the games thats it.


majority of the gamers are like this.

hishams911
hishams911

XBOX one will change gaming experience i think most of jap friends will change their mind its just a mater of time am PS gamer but  the new XBOX ONE  is awesome ... 

hordaak
hordaak

so, what i'm hearing is ps4...for a good value. xb1, for a better system. got it 

isisblack
isisblack

it was the right call since the PS eye doesn't really interest consumer that much and no one will really uses it. IF it was official to a rumor ?

AtariKidX
AtariKidX

Sony have done the right choice.....

kouji03
kouji03

why are people taking rumors as facts? 

Death_Masta187
Death_Masta187

Sony should really stick it to MS and drop the price down to $350. Id almost even consider getting one sooner if they did that. I guess I just keep with my PC and wait for the PS4 slim in a few years.

cj10239
cj10239

And do you know what it took away from the console?

Absolutely nothing, kudos for giving players the option on gimmicky shit they don't want or need (albeit for dubious competitive reasons)

Grimsby2162
Grimsby2162

As long as it isn't required to be there to play my games, i'm fine with that.

sjawz3288
sjawz3288

PS Eye is $60 but they were going to charge us an extra $100 if it was included with the console? That's odd. 

Toplinkar
Toplinkar

THe right choice as far as I am concerned. The whole idea of a peripheral is that you shouldn't need it to run your system.

SPuDl
SPuDl

I would of bought X1 if they made the kinect optional - I'm only interested in playing with a controller

mickolopi
mickolopi

PS Eye is 60$, so that is 460$, but we have the option whether or not we want to buy,not loaded onto it to us... Good try from gamespot...

RockoW
RockoW

Excellent. I don't want a ps eye.

MadaraSoul
MadaraSoul

thumbs up if u think any1 still going to buy Micro-lairs console is a fart-pusher 

RhythmAndBlues
RhythmAndBlues

When I see PS3 and Xbox 360 games with crummy implementations of motion-control I think to myself, "The Wii has a lot to answer for...". Likewise, with this whole topic of conversation here.


VolcanoMan001
VolcanoMan001

Ok, so now MS needs to remove the Kinect sensor for a basic $375 option. Undercut them, they they retaliate. Consumers win.

ScouseLemon
ScouseLemon

Hands up who seriously thinks MS won't offer a core package which doesn't include Kinect a a few months after the XBO's initial release.

ShimmeringSword
ShimmeringSword

I think it's good that the X1 comes standard with the camera, once you drop your paranoid fear that micro or the govt actually want to look at you (they don't).

Because the camera is standard, game devs no longer have to make a big fuss about it when their game includes support for it. Now we can finally have Kinect integration into our games that is far more subtle and thought out because it's no longer trying to sell the cameras gimmick. In the future we're going to look back and laugh at the days when we didn't have full video and audio integration into our systems.

joshuarocker
joshuarocker

I also felt suckered into buy the "Eye". Sony kept promising support but before long I knew it was dead in the water. I actually like motion gaming, it can be great with the family. If it's not shipped with the console however, most people won't have it and dev's won't use it in any meaningful way. That's why I liked Kinect being included in every Xbox. 

k1fry67
k1fry67

@FilipinoFatty Depends on what you call "money's worth".

Xbox's always have a better launch, but on the long run the Playstations win with  more exclusives. The Last of Us, Beyond, GT6, .... 2013 is an amazing year for the PS3, while the 360 is basically dead since 2010.

Daian
Daian

@sjawz3288 These are nothing but rumors, most likely it would have been 450$ even with the Eye. It was an obvious choice to not include it considering it's not mandatory for the console to function.

gamespotpanayis
gamespotpanayis

@Toplinkar

Not really true.  I'm sure the controllers are considered peripherals.

Similarly, a mouse and keyboard on a PC. (ok bad comparison as I do actually run some PC's without mouse/keyboard!).. but you get the drift.

Kinect is another input device.  They have just decided to include one in the box (I can only guess for the skype/tv services).  I can't imagine when I'd want to use it for gaming.. or even skype / tv for that matter.  But I don't mind it being in the package.. I guess, in time, we'll see what super uses devs come up with to use it (or not).

Bad_Ass_Dr_Funk
Bad_Ass_Dr_Funk

@ShimmeringSword yeah, but how many people WANT to use the Kinect for gaming, or even use it now.  Other than to dance as Han Solo.

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@ShimmeringSword By that logic, we should have had some really amazing use of motion controllers all through the Wii and PS3 lifespans, since everyone had them and developers didn't have to worry about that.

Let's see... good motion games. There was... um... Flower?

I expect the same amount from Kinect.

victorcom
victorcom

@ShimmeringSword As of I know there is only one game that can be mentioned here, that has made use of Kinect, that is 'Kinect adventures', for the whole 7 years of Xbox 360's life. Only 10% of the game s can take advantage of Kinect.

FilipinoFatty
FilipinoFatty

@k1fry67 @FilipinoFatty The 360 hasn't been dead, It's been used by the majority of the gamers of current gen. PS3 wasn't that great which why people had the Xbox 360 instead. I'm talking about the next gen so why are you talking about "Last of Us"? That game looks great but Playstation's exclusives for next gen don't really seem that good compared to Xbox's exclusives! 

Toplinkar
Toplinkar

@gamespotpanayis FAir enough, controllers are required peripherals, I get the drift.


I'm just not sure the idea that kinect is required to run the console is a good one. I can perfectly understand how a controller is an absolute necessity of a console, but I struggle to see kinect (and the PS camera) as a must have device. 


I think both should be optional. Yeah, one in every box may give developers motivation to go nuts with it, but that was the idea of the Wii U's gamepad and so far there are no killer applications for that.


Funny comparison though, I'd say Nintendo is the only company that got it right with the Wii. Anyone can imediatly get how that controller made the Wii unique back in the day.

ShimmeringSword
ShimmeringSword

@victorcom Even when you implying the Kinect released with the 360, you still prove the point. The reason so few 360 games support Kinect is because devs knew not many even had one. Now every X1 user will have one, so it's not a gamble to properly invest in using the device. Won't take long for devs to figure out how it's best implemented.

skiggy29
skiggy29

Dont compare the wii u with X1. Ms has waaaay more 3rd party support than Nintendo. Im a hardcore gamer and couldn't give a shit about kinect but because im a married man with a 4yr old girl the kinect is ideal! Its fun when other couples come over and it makes my wife stay quiet aboutgaming. PPeople need to understand that there are millions of consumers out there that are extremely excited for kinect. MS was actually pretty lenient with the pricing because the original kinect was $150. This time its twice as good a camera vs the original and they only added $100 to the overall price. Plus it offers a ton of new features. Sony was originally going to add the eye toy. They were about to charge an additional $100 for a camera thats probably not even half what the kinect is.

victorcom
victorcom

@ShimmeringSword @victorcom You meant to say a  percentage of the Xbox one exclusive games that can make use of it. I will be surprised even if the best selling game of Xbox Halo gives you Kinect support.(not only by giving voice commands, but something that truly integrates visual and audio) They have to design it separately.

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

@victorcom @CraZkid37 @ShimmeringSword Skyrim already showed us the extent of Kinect's usefulness in later patches.  Voice commands that rarely work and are never as intuitive as using the controller.

victorcom
victorcom

@CraZkid37 @victorcom @ShimmeringSword Tell me exactly how a game like Skyrim can make use of Kinect? How much will be the production cost increase because of that? do you expect multiplatform games to be designed and developed differently, one for PS4 and one for Xbox one. Specific games will be designed to make use of Kinect or Sony eye, practically that is what we can expect from this generation, mainly due to costs.