Six Days in Fallujah dev pondering more realistic shooters

Atomic Games president says studio has been approached by range of servicemen to lend expertise on new games based on specific battles.

Atomic Games found itself in a quagmire last year over the reaction to its as-yet-unreleased military shooter Six Days in Fallujah. After vociferous outcry from those who believed the game to be exploitive, Konami dropped the title. The move left Six Days in Fallujah without a publisher, and with its release uncertain, Atomic was forced to make cuts to its staff.

Six Days in Fallujah could be followed by Seven Nights in Basra.

Still, the controversy surrounding Six Days in Fallujah has apparently opened doors for Atomic in the future. Speaking to IncGamers, Atomic president Peter Tamte said that his studio has been in touch with a number of military personnel seeking to offer their firsthand accounts of other conflicts across the globe.

"As a result of Six Days in Fallujah, we actually have been contacted by people from across the world and other services, and there are certainly other stories that are begging to be told," Tamte said. The studio head also noted that "there are stories from across the world, and we got involved with Six Days in Fallujah because of our relationship with specific marines who served in that particular engagement."

Six Days in Fallujah has been characterized as a "hyperrealistic" re-creation of the Second Battle of Fallujah, which occurred as part of the Iraq War over the course of several weeks in November and December 2004. A number of veterans who fought in the encounter advised Atomic on the game's direction and provided video clips recounting their tales for use in the game. Following Konami's retreat, Atomic said that it intends to continue developing the game for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC.

Following the Six Days in Fallujah fiasco, Atomic announced Breach for consoles and the PC. Though details on that project are slim, the studio did say that Breach will be a multiplayer first-person shooter focusing on CIA Special Activities Division officers.

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murph85
murph85

From the looks of it this game would not appeal to the perk happy Call of Duty people.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

i really cant wait for this one. Little cod or moh kids beware! Your boogie man is coming!!

duty_nco
duty_nco

If you look at Atomic's catalog you will see they are serious with it and not exploitive. There are worse things to learn than small unit tactics and history. This goes beyond commercial and into training/educational. Sorry there is no Master Chief in this title. Plenty of Lance Corporals and PFC's I will bet. Carry on, Mr. Tamte.

Glade_Gnarr
Glade_Gnarr

Who complained about this in the first place? Well, to those who complained I hope you're happy, 'cause you made a japanese company cry. But seriously, first Capcom gets bashed for racists and then Konami for being insensitive. I'll tell you something, the people in those games weren't even japanese so wtf?

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

i don't understand what is soo touchy about this subject. i don't think most people that play shooters are sensitive to this type of material. even the mw2 airport scene only drew criticism from people NOT PLAYING THE GAME. now if there was rape then i would understand, but its a battle. its history. its not a perversion of the truth. its not even an exploit.

jaredcrazy3232
jaredcrazy3232

CIA SAD game is a dope idea! no one is more hard core than those guys, well not in the US anyway.

Malhound
Malhound

It really intended as a survival horror shooter, so choose Activision instead.

jcoe85
jcoe85

Education. Never is education a bad thing, and if you're getting entertainment at the same time then you're more likely to take the education on board. Also some people seem to take the word "entertainment" as meaning "having a laugh". I was entertained by Schindlers List, doesn't mean I had a big smile on my face does it? I think the game should be out as the more people aware of what its like over there the better, whatever it may reveal (because like most here I know nothing at all). The only peoples opinion I have any respect for regarding the release of the game are either soldiers who were involved, or people who have lost family/friends in that particular event. If the majority of them didn't want it out then fair enough but nobody else should be able to influence that especially business people citing any kind of moral reasoning. Even other soldiers, although you shouldn't misunderstand I have the greatest respect for them. BUT, I am English so to many my opinion may not matter on a game about American Marines. But don't forget there are ALOT more soldiers than just Americans over there. And its not as if I'm unaffected by it either. The sister of a friend of mine lost her fiancee and I've got schoolfriends who are serving over there. And you'll find alot of similar stories not just here but I assume in Australia and Canada too. So although the game is about American Marines its still relevant to the rest of the World never mind just the Allied Forces.

ipikisis
ipikisis

Let's see, we'll see ...

Froce712
Froce712

I think if this one is gonna show the battle from the perspective of a Marine, it would be cool if they did a sequel that shows the battle from the perspective of an Army Soldier.

Triton
Triton

Build it and they will come...

afrosud12
afrosud12

capitalize Marine. Mr. Magrino

AncientDozer
AncientDozer

I agree that there are other mediums that have exploited wars past and present and still happening. Tv shows, movies, books, etc. The "Too soon" argument seems flimsy especially when not long after 9/11 there were shows and movies and specials about it. Was that not. . too soon? I can understand another angle, though. That it's the interactivity . It's the fear of "plot decay" since one might go for pretty graphics and gimmicks over an actual story. But I think that's just bull. If anything, if they do what they say, it would open people's eyes to what it's like out there. It would tell the most convincing story that would really reach out.

Gamerz1569
Gamerz1569

I've never really understood the controversy regarding SDF, there have been lots of movies about the Iraq war how are video games any different?

serieus
serieus

Why do we fear realism? Movies and music offer fantasy and reality, so why can't video games? Personally I feel that video games lack a sense of morality when it comes to shooting and killing things, if there can be more games like Fallujah then maybe we may think about the actions that occur in real life when a gun is fired on another human being. Don't get me wrong I love playing violent video games like the next man, but a little reality can help gamers become more emotionally attached to the characters they are playing as and playing with. In the long run if it sells we'll see more of it, if it doesn't then its back to the drawing board for reality based video games.

dezzyfiesta
dezzyfiesta

I could see this having online multi-player and if it did then thats the entire mature and serious debate thing out the window. If it was done right as a solo experience that gave war veterans a voice (the ones that want one) and brought home the realities of war (and the Middle East) then I would have no problem with it. I fear it would probably just prove to be one big "No Russian" level though and be sold on controversy.

ekultus
ekultus

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IKIRYIPT
IKIRYIPT

i hope this game gets published its a history lesson for us americans who aint over there fighting for our country make this game for our soldiers and god bless them and their families

otanikun
otanikun

Release that game, it would be highly educational to actually see something be recreated from the perspective of an actual soldier rather than stock footage and stories.

gamerpipe
gamerpipe

People can be offended by anything, if you keep listening to that, you might as well. move to an uninhibited place and live alone. War can be funny if done in a game. Nobody die by a game, nobody hurt by a game. If you have objections to death and causalities, how about you oppose the real war? not the game. I support freedom of making games. I want to see more "controversial" games. How about war game in Michigan, fighting attackers from Virginia, or Canada conquest, or smuggle illegal immigrants the game, or Falklands war . Anarchy war. civil war. How about genocidal penguins that kill every last human . If you don't like it. don't play it. simple as that.

EtherTwilight
EtherTwilight

@punisher41542o If I could give you twenty thumbs up, I would. As it is, I'm limited to just the one. Thanks for that.

punisher41542o
punisher41542o

heres my deal. as an iraq war vet i spent 2 years in iraq. i was infantry and i did my deal. I hope the people who are against this game also play on bashing cod mw2 and the new ea medal of honor. Because they are also pretty darn real from my perspective. I could not make it past the hummve level in cod cause it was to real. I think the game should come out because maybe it will change the mind of some 12 year old kid who thinks war is about super Soap mc'tavern, and noob tubeing head shots. And if u are against the game because of the war, i hope u dont own cod. And im not pro war i hated the army, but games should not be about polotics, they should be about story, and no matter wut fallujah is a story worth tellin.

redskins2156
redskins2156

I totally agree with your comments freestyler_85. WWW.INFOWARS.COM

duty_nco
duty_nco

Atomic knows what it is doing. There is a need for serious games which can be used as training aids.

freestyler_85
freestyler_85

another propaganda video game for the war in Iraq / Afganistan. Enough with the Middle East. We all know that war is a big lie and it deserves as little attention as possible. Create a different war theater, fictional or whatever because I don't support playing the "heros" of this so called "war on terror".

mykel77
mykel77

this was the only shooter i was looking forward too and konami wussed out. i hope an indie publisher picks it up, the game is finished.

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

@landisan, I see your point, but they could've easily named the game something else, and know one would have thought anything. There are a ton of military shooters like Ghost Recon,COD,Battlefield,etc., and if they would just change the name it might not have the negative effect that comes along with it. As far as the marines , I live in right next to Camp Lejuene, one of the biggest marine corps bases around, and I was just stating by my encounters with those young marines, which seem to play all sorts of military shooters, and aren't offended in the least bit. I do see your point though.

maverick_76
maverick_76

Hopefully Breach will be cool, and I really do hope that Fallujah will be released soon, how is it offensive? If anything it is celebrating the men who fought and died in the battle.

lilmurfer
lilmurfer

Fallujah or not. I sure hope there are still gonna make a realistic game.

payne6705
payne6705

I have an idea for the developers before "pondering" on a next title why don't you release and see what the gamer's have to say about your finished product before you make a follow up..just saying.

damaster101
damaster101

@SturmFuehrer - No one could've come out with a better response,very well said.

Elvis4576
Elvis4576

@landisan I see your point, maybe america and some of the people giving their lives for their country don't want this game. I asked my army buddies what they thought about all this, most of them didnt like the idea of it but they all agreed that they fought and watched their friends die for our freedom to do whatever we like. In other words they may not like what we say or do but they'll die fighting for our rights.

Venom_injektion
Venom_injektion

@okassar - Agreed,101%. @Ladiesman17 - Yeah, "Fake News". It's ridiculous how The U.S. portrays how they are always the good guys... I mean, I live in the U.S., but I believe I understand what is going on a lot of the time with the whole "We are the heroes!" crap. Don't get me wrong, it's not every one in the U.S. that is corrupted, I just don't have any trust in our government. We are falling, faster and faster every day.

Ladiesman17
Ladiesman17

maybe this kind of genre released by Atomic studio (who's famous with simulations for military training "especially" in US) full of "false propaganda"!! it's probably sold well, but not comparable with the "negative" impact!!! ;) most consumers need to be protected from "fake news"!! that marginalize certain parties/nations!! ex: (how the U.S. has always been a hero!! and other countries has always been the enemy) it sucks!!

BrianB0422
BrianB0422

I want to play this game. Its the last hope for a true tactical TPS since Zipper / SCEA has shat on Socom.... AGAIN.

biskutsngravee
biskutsngravee

Stop crying people its another game about war,the only reason this game is getting attacked is because EA or another big company isnt making it.It seems to me that people will play whatever is presented to them in the most popular way,its time we start learning whats really going on in these wars and this game might be to realistic(it might expose things they didnt and dont put on the news).And by the way i served in the army and i would love it if some company made game about the false weapons of mass desturction war on terror(oh yeah it might offend people,I loss 3 buddies of mine and i wouldnt be offended)but it might expose people to whats really going on and they cant do that.

BravoOneActual
BravoOneActual

@fulton_falcon: Great, great point. That dawned on me the other day when I read about "MoH: Afghanistan" and thought about "Fallujah's" fate. Personally, I see no difference.

fulton_falcon
fulton_falcon

we still got ea's medal of honor coming out and its about the afgan war.and its still a active war but no one is crying about stopping it.but it looks to be a great game.

isnot-important
isnot-important

Good news for the company - Hopefully one day we'll actually see this game with a release date. Still on my wish list.

SturmFuehrer
SturmFuehrer

But are people forgetting A.A?? Made by the U.S. Army??? as a propaganda tool, depicting a realistic online war experience?? So i get it, Fallujah is off limits cause wounds are still too "fresh" but let's make things as realistic as possible in WWII, Vietnam and the Cold war era? and relive the nightmares of our grandparents and parents? and don't get all on the same offended wagon, cause people keep their mouth shut with tom clancy titles, (i know, they're fictional scenarios) but really are reenactments of the things that happened in Eastern Europe and Africa. War is war, nobody likes to talk about it, specially men and women in uniform, however the U.S has been through countless conflicts/wars and that still hasn't kept americans and people of the world from making games, novels, comic books, documentaries, series, movies, even video clips. So when is it ok to reenact experiences of war, through games, films and series? when most of its survivors are too shellshocked, senile or worse, dead?

okassar
okassar

Servicemen being mad about it alone is reason enough not to make it. Respect the people that defend us and also respect the families on the other side that maybe have lost some innocent lives.

ipikisis
ipikisis

I agree with the lad at low

landisan
landisan

@godzillavskong I too know a lot of marines, hell I am one. Maybe thats why I feel the way I do. I don't like the idea nor do many of my brothers and sisters, but we serve so that people in this country can prosper like we all want to. I just have a hard time seeing the service that has been performed by all the millitary who have given there lives and still are to be turned into a game for entertainment. But I also didn't serve just to try and tell everyone what to do you should judge for yourselves, I'm just speaking my opinion please don't take offense.

landisan
landisan

@elvis4576 I respect your opinion as it is a valid one, but I can't help but feel that when someone uses the something from a war that is currently still active, and we already have enough people who don't trully know what America is all about, the last thing we should be doing is making a game that reflect the lives and deaths of people on both sides. I mean how hard is it to come up with something original that may mildly reflect real world battles but not be one. I don't believe in censorship and I'm not trying to fight or degrade anyone here, I just don't think its right.

ohwhat_24
ohwhat_24

@nakasa i agree it is dangerous when we start trying to censor what people are playing or attempting to make.

UnitedGamerz
UnitedGamerz

ITS JUST A GAME WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE TO GET ALL BIG ABOUT A GAME BASED ON REAL EVENTS I KNOW FAMILY MEMBERS DIED BUT ITS STILL JUST A GAME

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

Its a game, its not real, but the things those marines are doing over there are very real! I think the people should get a chance to play a game that is as realistic as can be, especially one of this nature, that way people can see the true brutality of war.I live in a military town and I see marines that have been on their third tour in Iraq, the after getting back they get sent to Afghanastin. %90 of them I talk to love playing FPS like COD or Battlefield, and surely aren't offended by a game like 6 days in Fallujah. I am looking forward to this game to play, because that is the closest I would ever want to get to the real thing, and props go out to the United States Armed Forces for playing the real thing!

nakasa5
nakasa5

@ohwhat_24 No, you didn't offend me at all! I just wanted to make sure you understood me, and I definitely respect your opinion as well. Everyone has a right to make up their own mind about whether to play a game, and I think we get into trouble when we start telling people what can and cannot be published/played.

ohwhat_24
ohwhat_24

@nakasa5 let me first say if i offended you im sorry,that wasnt my intention. and i see and fully respect your point and your stance on this. we can agree to disagree. I feel this game being unable to find a publisher is a shame. aside from being a game,it is a way to tell the stories of the men and women who are actively fighting in this conflict. and their story deserves to be told.