Sega prepping core Kinect title

Western division head Mike Hayes pins late 2011 or early 2012 launch date for game using Xbox 360 camera in a "more sophisticated" way.

When the Kinect launches November 4, the Xbox 360 motion-sensing camera will be accompanied on store shelves by a handful of games, including Sega's Sonic Freeriders. While the publisher's Kinect debut will be a new entry in its mascot spin-off boarding game designed for broad appeal, Sega has plans to use the Kinect for something more specifically targeting traditional gamers.

Sonic Riders may not be the Kinect-enabled Sega franchise core gamers hoped for, but the publisher has something else in the works.

Speaking with CVG, Sega West president and CEO Mike Hayes said the casual-focused launch lineup of the Kinect was due partly to the amount of time game makers have had with the new technology.

"It is a reasonably complicated piece of kit, therefore it's going to take us longer to use all of those aspects in a game," Hayes told the site. "We're not going to be able to develop something [for the core audience] in under a year, which is frankly what we've had…We've got one good idea and hopefully something will be out the back end of next year, perhaps early 2012, which we think will use the aspects of Kinect a lot more originally and in a more sophisticated way."

Sonic Freeriders is one of eight games Microsoft is advertising for the Kinect launch and one of only three third-party titles. The other third-party games set for launch are Ubisoft's Your Shape: Fitness Evolved and Majesco's Zumba Fitness. For more on Kinect, check out GameSpot's complete primer on the hardware, straight from the Electronic Entertainment Expo.

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scubasteve465
scubasteve465

I just don't see why M$ doesn't release some of the ideas they and 3rd party co. have on the possibilities they are working on. this is once again a bad marketing move. Even if they have games that will just utilize kinect for certain parts or something. They are way too tight liped for a good release.

MissObvious
MissObvious

:? Microsoft really needs to get at least one core game to show off before this thing launches-even if it is just explaining the game concept and how it will play so people have some idea of what this will be capable of, because at the moment I'm pretty sure most people are rather skeptical as to if the Kinect is even going to be able to do as much as the Wii, and that's not good.

wahyudil
wahyudil

I don't know if the lag in kinec is true or not, but if not, there are lots of possibilities that you can create with kinec ... but why there are no high anticipated games at all?

Raykuza
Raykuza

I still want to know if you can sit down.

djwood84
djwood84

Well, I hope this can convince a few of you that buying a Kinect/Move before Qtr3 or 4 2011 is a waste of money. Early adopters almost always get burned. Don't plunk down the cash till the killer app comes out (if it does, still not sold on this motion sensing craze.)

Elite_Baller
Elite_Baller

The best 3D sonic game since Sonic Adventre was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle hands down. It was sooooo good why would u go away from what the fans loved? it worked and it was great! and everybody liked it.! but no... u go and make crappy games like Sonc the hedgehog (next gen version) and Sonic Unleashed..... ....smh... why sega why?

anthonycg
anthonycg

C'mon you can still do pilates with your $150 kinect! That'll be great!! /sarcsam

100proofsoco
100proofsoco

"hey look what nintendo did, let's do that!" Booo

pwnzord
pwnzord

@ Tripleseed Same here man they've done some great games in the past, but I cannot recall for the life of me a recent title that they made that I did enjoy. I did however like Bayonetta, but again they were just the publisher there so much like Alpha Protocol most of the blame (or glory rather in the case of Bayonetta) should go to the guys that really worked on it with Sega getting a smaller piece of the action. And I totally agree Yakuza is awful.

Tripleseed
Tripleseed

@RitsukoEX OK! Good to know!! @pwnzord Gotcha. Alright then, you were right, my bad. All in all, I've got to agree. Not too excited about anything coming from Sega these days. The last good Sega games that I played were on the original Xbox, where there were quite a few like JSRF, Otogi 1 and 2, and Panzer Dragoon Orta. I think Yakuza is garbage. Never liked that series.

pwnzord
pwnzord

@ Tripleseed Notice how I didn't say make. I was well aware that they were the publisher, nevertheless they put their name behind that product, one that didn't fare too well. Whether they made it or not Sega thought there was something behind it and was willing to put up the cash to get it made. They share in some measure of responsibility for the quality of the game.

RitsukoEX
RitsukoEX

@Tripleseed Obsidian is garbage!..just like the Sonic team! Thats why I'm not buying the next Fallout game!

RitsukoEX
RitsukoEX

@thorughfire you got that right!!! Sega should fire the Sonic team and get BETTER people to do Sonic games!

Lionman363
Lionman363

I'm hoping this core game is not a Sonic game. To be frank, nearly every Sonic game over the last few years have been awful. I know Sonic 4 looks impressive, but we've seen these kind of promisese before and they've always turned out to be hindered by some pointless game mechanic as well as in-game flaws. If this title is not a Sonic game, then perhaps there is some hope for it, seeing as the only games that Sega appears to putting good effort into are not part of the Sonic franchise. But seriously, Sonic Freeriders? Ugh.

kavadias1981
kavadias1981

@mjc0961 Yakuza 3.... that's all I can think of lol

thorughfire
thorughfire

So you are telling me that Sega ,who basically lives off the Sonic franchise, is making a Kinect game after how many years of not developing a game? 4 years...That's because they make nothing but crap ,including the sonic games. Honestly the first few sonic games were awesome but lately they have been killing the franchise.

TheoleDominion
TheoleDominion

@sharkbiscuit79 - Good point. I for one am looking forward to see how far they can take the technology. Games on Wii are cool, but I'm really hoping for great titles and new genres for core gamers.

The_crapgamer
The_crapgamer

I love Sega, I'll be looking forward to their titles for Kinect and regular controller based gaming. I think they have a ton of promise and titles like Bayonetta were vastly underrated. Cant wait to see what they have to show off Kinect to a more "Core" gaming demographic..

super600
super600

Some people should seriously stop with making fun of Sega. I hope sega has something planned to make all you stop hating sega

Tripleseed
Tripleseed

pwnzord: Alpha Protocol wasn't made by Sega, just published. You can blame Obsidian for that one.

pwnzord
pwnzord

Too bad Sega just can't make em like they used to. Whatever it is that they have up their sleeve I'm sure it'll be a flop like most everything else they slap their name on (Alpha Protocol anyone?).

salshaal
salshaal

i think this game isn't good enough ,but Sega must have somethin' else under the hat

da2g
da2g

New generation of consoles is expected in five years... advanced games for core players that use kinect technology are going to be developed in two years... it makes only three years of playing... so you are practically buying this stuff for two maybe three years of fun... why? why it is so late?

Necrodracul
Necrodracul

@NND1 Yea me want to now what happen to that demo ?

sharkbiscuit79
sharkbiscuit79

oh more kinect bashing I wonder how long this will last?!?!?!? maybe the people who like shooters should carry on playing shooters and stop whining about something that was never designed for them in the first place

NND1
NND1

I don't know what happened to the skateboard game where you can scan your own board and ride it in the game, but that was freakin' awesome!!

NND1
NND1

Bring it out and I will definitely buy it to control the menus alone!!!

snailz
snailz

say what you will about the casual-focused, fitness-based launch games, all they can do is give kinect, and by extension the games industry as a whole, an improved reputation amongst non-gamers. These people ARE in the majority and if they can look at an xbox and think "healthy activity", then that can only help the industry grow.

nightshade_nova
nightshade_nova

main problem for kinect is m$ didnt promise anything to core gamers, hence it will receive a cold welcome.and they also have investors to pleased, how the heck they supposed to do that without core gamers in mind?and casual gamers market is already owned by wii as it already had a headstart.and that is why ppl is seeing kinect as a failure, which it is may or may not be.only time will tell.

Incubus420
Incubus420

why hasn't anyone told Sega that they suck?

NND1
NND1

Bring IT ON!!!

GodModeEnabled
GodModeEnabled

It's true, great games take a long time to develop, up to 2 years or more. How would MS expect any 3rd parties to release a AAA in under a year notice? There will be AAA games, just not for a little while as all the good games are still being developed. But it is pretty cool to hate, so you got that going for you.

smbius
smbius

Doesn't anyone think outside the box? Seeing the games we have today and slapping motion control on it isn't creative. How about a Star Trek-like game where you're controlling the ship's hologram-like functions and giving orders to the crew by voice? Adventure and RPG games would work perfectly here. Just point where you want your character to go. Open doors by turning knob or kicking them down. Hold a book in your hand and turn the pages to look at an album of suspects. Hold an object in different angles to look for clues. Go to first person mode via voice and look around a room by actually looking around. The possibilities are endless. Forget FPS on motion controls. It's nothing new. If you want to know what that's like now, play Metroid Prime 3 or the Conduit. Not much different from a regular controller.

LindBergh2007
LindBergh2007

More like next year. What Hayes isn't telling anyone is that by the year 2012, SEGA will no longer publish boxed 3rd party software. Sega West is going digital and plans to be entirely digital come 2012. Hmm, about of Wii fanboys are jealous of "Kinect".

tbs76
tbs76

Why is there so much negativity against Kinect. I think its a cool device that will only innovate the industry and help sell 360's to the masses. Are you all afraid that Kinect will be popular and spell the end for controller based games? Seriously, grow up already. Only thing holding back Kinect will be price and I believe that by late 2011 we are going to see some software for Kinect that will blow your mind. Devs haven't had much time with this thing and it takes time to make great games. Even the 360 and PS3's launch lineup was lame by todays standards. If you call yourself a true gamer you should respect what Microsoft is doing and realize that larger sales whether they come from the controller based games or Kinect is a good thing. I really hope you prove all these naysayers wrong Microsoft, I really do.

taxonomic
taxonomic

They can keep trying, but Kinect/Move just isn't going to work on us. Play an RPG where you have to swing the sword? Play a shooter where you duck around for 2 hours and aim at the screen? Play a platformer where you have to physically jump every 3 seconds? If you're Richard Simmons, maybe you'd enjoy that...but a core gamer would rather sit back in the sofa and prop their feet up on the table then bother doing all of that.

binghanem
binghanem

funny how people predict sales and future of video games from a demo or by personal preference.

maximumbarmage
maximumbarmage

Late 2011? Will publishers still want to make Kinect games once they've seen what sales of both Kinect itself and it's games are like up until that period? They won't be good, that's for sure. You'd think if ANYONE would know better about diving headfirst into supporting over-expensive hardware add ons for a games console, it would be Sega.

Snicker-Man
Snicker-Man

please dont put sonic with th kinect please just be a stupid rumor that never coming true!

pizzamuncher
pizzamuncher

@leeko_link how could you possibly control that?

Quezakolt
Quezakolt

I doubt Kinect will still be around in 2012.

Kleeyook
Kleeyook

I wonder how would we actually play ski & surf & skateboard games by the real board in front of the TV. RIDE failed miserably, no good is coming from trying to use Kinect. They should just stick with the standard controller. Shadow boxing should work best imo.

hunter8man
hunter8man

Sega takes any opportunity it can to further destroy Sonic. I doubt Kinect core games will be anything hardcore gamers get excited about unless they find a way to integrate into EA Sports games like the Move is doing with Tiger Woods and the Wii has already done.

swamptick
swamptick

I am VERY much looking forward to the games that use both controllers AND Kinect.

Deth_Walkr
Deth_Walkr

Well in some instances, from what I just saw, a controller may be faster in doing some actions rather than hand gestures.

icepickiii
icepickiii

I think strategy games would work well with it. Even if its just for the ability to control your units with just voice and hand movements.

nini200
nini200

As I stated before, Kinect only will work with ON Rails Games and Games where you don't have to move your character around vast landscapes thus eliminating Most 1 on 1 fighters, ALL FPS's, RPG's Adventure Games, Beat-em Ups, and more. The only Genre's this will be successful at is Driving, Very Few Sports such as Snowboarding where again, they move for you , you basically just turn. Puzzle games and Family games. The GUI Integration is nice but that alone in no way warrants a $150 price tag.