Second Left 4 Dead DLC live

Although Left 4 Dead 2's launch is less than two months away, its original game got its second batch of downloadable content today. Titled Crash Course, the DLC is set between the No Mercy and Death Toll maps found in the original game and accommodates single-player, cooperative, and competitive...

Although Left 4 Dead 2's launch is less than two months away, its original game got its second batch of downloadable content today. Titled Crash Course, the DLC is set between the No Mercy and Death Toll maps found in the original game and accommodates single-player, cooperative, and competitive action. According to developer Valve Software, the map should take just 30 minutes to complete, but it will add new locations, new dialogue, and an "explosive finale."

Crash Course is free to PC gamers via Valve's Steam service, but Xbox 360 owners will have to drop $7 (MSP 560) to pick it up. There was a brief outcry this morning when Xbox Live listed the game as costing $10 (MSP 800), which was a mistake noted by the service's director of programming. In April, Valve released its first Left 4 Dead add-on, the Survival Pack, for free for both the PC and 360. Until October 1, Left 4 Dead is 50 percent off on Steam.

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f1tz
f1tz

This should come as no surprise to any console owner, it's simply one of the prices you pay for playing on a console. Valve & Steam always play fair with their customers when they can (they have a reputation for it), but if they're not directly responsible for issuing additional content they can't be held accountable for what another company does. In this case X-Box owners are effectively complaining that they bought a console - No one forced X-Box owners to buy an X-Box & they must surely have known to expect this sort of expense, especially from Microsoft, so what's the problem?

f1tz
f1tz

This should come as no surprise to any console owner, it's simply one of the prices you pay for playing on a console. Valve & Steam always play fair with their customers when they can (they have a reputation for it), but if they're not directly responsible for issuing additional content they can't be held accountable for what another company does. In this case X-Box owners are effectively complaining that they bought a console - No one forced X-Box owners to buy an X-Box & they must surely have known to expect this sort of expense, especially from Microsoft, so what's the problem?

Circlestrafe
Circlestrafe

@mikeyg756 Of course Valve owns and developed L4D. I'm saying xbox owners already fork over 10 extra bucks PER GAME as it is. I don't see anyone crying about that. Xbox owners PAID 10 extra dollars to buy L4D over what I did. That's the premium for playing it on an inferior device. Now Microsoft AND Valve have a relationship in which Valve agreed (whether they wanted to or not, whether they like to or not) to allow Microsoft to tack on a $7 DLC charge. So yes, Valve, THE DEVELOPER, is either directly or indirectly involved in the $7 xbox fee.

Circlestrafe
Circlestrafe

@mikeyg756 Of course Valve owns and developed L4D. I'm saying xbox owners already fork over 10 extra bucks PER GAME as it is. I don't see anyone crying about that. Xbox owners PAID 10 extra dollars to buy L4D over what I did. That's the premium for playing it on an inferior device. Now Microsoft AND Valve have a relationship in which Valve agreed (whether they wanted to or not, whether they like to or not) to allow Microsoft to tack on a $7 DLC charge. So yes, Valve, THE DEVELOPER, is either directly or indirectly involved in the $7 xbox fee.

snarple_basic
snarple_basic

I really wish 3rd party companies could host there DLC on there own servers and just have Microsoft list the content. It would be nice if there was a run around for having to pay for free content.... Hell I would even be o.k. with having to download it off there website put it on a USB drive and just copy it over to the Xbox. Oh well I'll pass on this $7 rip off.

snarple_basic
snarple_basic

I really wish 3rd party companies could host there DLC on there own servers and just have Microsoft list the content. It would be nice if there was a run around for having to pay for free content.... Hell I would even be o.k. with having to download it off there website put it on a USB drive and just copy it over to the Xbox. Oh well I'll pass on this $7 rip off.

dentui
dentui

I can't believe it :( They are going to make us pay $60 for the same graphics and gameplay. Why charge for a new mission that only has 2 maps instead of 4? Everything that is new in L4D2 are a few zombies, Guns and maps. All wich can be a DLC for the first one. I am about to sign that petition right now.

dentui
dentui

I can't believe it :( They are going to make us pay $60 for the same graphics and gameplay. Why charge for a new mission that only has 2 maps instead of 4? Everything that is new in L4D2 are a few zombies, Guns and maps. All wich can be a DLC for the first one. I am about to sign that petition right now.

carllfc
carllfc

Awful DLC, 2 maps instead of 4. Im glad im a pc gamer, I would not have dared paid that much for that.

carllfc
carllfc

Awful DLC, 2 maps instead of 4. Im glad im a pc gamer, I would not have dared paid that much for that.

juberline
juberline

why is it 560 points and not a nice figure like 400-500 and that way i don't have to buy the whole 1000 for it.... infact it should be free like the pc.

juberline
juberline

why is it 560 points and not a nice figure like 400-500 and that way i don't have to buy the whole 1000 for it.... infact it should be free like the pc.

chaos20
chaos20

@Sabriel_Ysane i noticed some of em, but.....i got em for free cos im 25 years old and im a pc (soz cudnt help meself, but i hate those adverts haha) but (and i regret saying this) i feel sorry for xbox players having to pay, ive only been playing the game for 3 weeks, and most campaigns are a challenge, finally got past blood toll.....poor bill......anyhows it took me nearly 1h 30m to do it with one restart, did crash course in 30 mins, its too short

chaos20
chaos20

@Sabriel_Ysane i noticed some of em, but.....i got em for free cos im 25 years old and im a pc (soz cudnt help meself, but i hate those adverts haha) but (and i regret saying this) i feel sorry for xbox players having to pay, ive only been playing the game for 3 weeks, and most campaigns are a challenge, finally got past blood toll.....poor bill......anyhows it took me nearly 1h 30m to do it with one restart, did crash course in 30 mins, its too short

Sabriel_Ysane
Sabriel_Ysane

@chaos20 And did you notice how you can walk through cars and walls? And that you can pass through the barricade? Completely ignoring the crescendo! LOL. It's like they charged us to playtest the damn thing!

Sabriel_Ysane
Sabriel_Ysane

@chaos20 And did you notice how you can walk through cars and walls? And that you can pass through the barricade? Completely ignoring the crescendo! LOL. It's like they charged us to playtest the damn thing!

chaos20
chaos20

have just tried the dlc, and have to agree with Sabriel_Ysane, it seemed like after shooting an infected the bullet would hit them 1-2 seconds after, instead of straight away, or like i would fire just before a teammate would run past, hitting him instead of missing like in the other campaigns, and yes played 3 times on net an single player to confirm

chaos20
chaos20

have just tried the dlc, and have to agree with Sabriel_Ysane, it seemed like after shooting an infected the bullet would hit them 1-2 seconds after, instead of straight away, or like i would fire just before a teammate would run past, hitting him instead of missing like in the other campaigns, and yes played 3 times on net an single player to confirm

atopp399
atopp399

Left 4 Dead on steam is only $15 for the full game including the DLC for PC users. Xbox players are really getting ripped off.

atopp399
atopp399

Left 4 Dead on steam is only $15 for the full game including the DLC for PC users. Xbox players are really getting ripped off.

Sabriel_Ysane
Sabriel_Ysane

LOL. My comment was removed for bashing Microsoft and Valve. I'll say it again, your content was glitchy, you're ripping us off for charging for it, and anyone buying avatar clothes is mental!

Sabriel_Ysane
Sabriel_Ysane

LOL. My comment was removed for bashing Microsoft and Valve. I'll say it again, your content was glitchy, you're ripping us off for charging for it, and anyone buying avatar clothes is mental!

chrisoneps2
chrisoneps2

@Circlestrafe Well said everytime this game is mentioned people complain about how the new one is coming out too soon. If you dont like it simply dont play, go make a game in your basement then listen to everyone complain about your glitches and how you have to charge for things and you'll see how it works

chrisoneps2
chrisoneps2

@Circlestrafe Well said everytime this game is mentioned people complain about how the new one is coming out too soon. If you dont like it simply dont play, go make a game in your basement then listen to everyone complain about your glitches and how you have to charge for things and you'll see how it works

Merex760
Merex760

@SnakeEyesX80 It's simply a requirement by Microsoft to be able to post stuff on Live. They have a set amount of requirements that a developer must fulfill to put content on Xbox Live, including a price model. Microsoft wants kickbacks from content posted on their service. Other content (like the UT3 Black update) wasn't even able to be posted on live, because Microsoft wanted that update split up and each one charged separately for Xbox users. Epic wouldn't do that, so they simply didn't make the update available on Live. Valve wants people to see this content, and unfortunately they have to price it at the amount for which Microsoft agrees to so they can put it on Xbox Live.

Merex760
Merex760

@SnakeEyesX80 It's simply a requirement by Microsoft to be able to post stuff on Live. They have a set amount of requirements that a developer must fulfill to put content on Xbox Live, including a price model. Microsoft wants kickbacks from content posted on their service. Other content (like the UT3 Black update) wasn't even able to be posted on live, because Microsoft wanted that update split up and each one charged separately for Xbox users. Epic wouldn't do that, so they simply didn't make the update available on Live. Valve wants people to see this content, and unfortunately they have to price it at the amount for which Microsoft agrees to so they can put it on Xbox Live.

bschroth
bschroth

left 4 dead is fun. but not deep enough. i got it as a gift for xmas but only played a few hours of it unfortunately.

bschroth
bschroth

left 4 dead is fun. but not deep enough. i got it as a gift for xmas but only played a few hours of it unfortunately.

ISuperGamerI
ISuperGamerI

I am not going to buy this, because a) $7 is too much for a small DLC and b) L4D2 is getting released soon.

ISuperGamerI
ISuperGamerI

I am not going to buy this, because a) $7 is too much for a small DLC and b) L4D2 is getting released soon.

Ehggsz
Ehggsz

Give us Left4Dead 2 as DLC.

Ehggsz
Ehggsz

Give us Left4Dead 2 as DLC.

UrbanMessiah
UrbanMessiah

Yeeaaaaaah...much as me and my girlfriend love playing L4D, we decided to take a pass on this one. Just can't justify blowing $7 on this, not when we both have a huge backlog of games and L4D2 is right around the corner. Plus, paying on Live while it's supposed to be free because of some stupid achievements? That irks us...XP However, when they eventually do a so called "Deal of the Week" and charge less for it? Maybe I'll pick it up...we'll see. -=x

UrbanMessiah
UrbanMessiah

Yeeaaaaaah...much as me and my girlfriend love playing L4D, we decided to take a pass on this one. Just can't justify blowing $7 on this, not when we both have a huge backlog of games and L4D2 is right around the corner. Plus, paying on Live while it's supposed to be free because of some stupid achievements? That irks us...XP However, when they eventually do a so called "Deal of the Week" and charge less for it? Maybe I'll pick it up...we'll see. -=x

Bandit24sc
Bandit24sc

Am happy to have a little more L4D until L4D2 comes out .

Bandit24sc
Bandit24sc

Am happy to have a little more L4D until L4D2 comes out .

Wheelman56
Wheelman56

All FPS are better on PC, granted they are properly optimized. L4D is certainly no exception.

Wheelman56
Wheelman56

All FPS are better on PC, granted they are properly optimized. L4D is certainly no exception.

chaos20
chaos20

im thinking dejavu. when a mate of mine told me about left 4 dead before i bought it, he explained the campaigns to me and i said "so they get rescued by a copter, then it crashes an get rescued by a boat which sinks and then...etc", and he said no all seperate....so i was right and valve are reading my mind!!! (edit) Most PC gamers have microphones, but dont want to sound like most of the idiots we hear using them, check newgrounds, I HATE YUO MYG0T for examples haha

chaos20
chaos20

im thinking dejavu. when a mate of mine told me about left 4 dead before i bought it, he explained the campaigns to me and i said "so they get rescued by a copter, then it crashes an get rescued by a boat which sinks and then...etc", and he said no all seperate....so i was right and valve are reading my mind!!! (edit) Most PC gamers have microphones, but dont want to sound like most of the idiots we hear using them, check newgrounds, I HATE YUO MYG0T for examples haha

icecubefosho
icecubefosho

ALOT of people with PCs have mics. Playing PVK II or Battlegrounds 2 are prime examples. My brother had a 360 and I played L4D on that and since we were too cheap to spend $20 nearly everyone we had played with were blasting us and getting pissed off at us for not having mics. Mind you many of them were underaged kids that now would say L4D is gay/boring/sucks compared to Modern Warfare 2 which hasn't even come out. Half Life 2 and its engine should've stuck in the PC Realm. We're getting the shaft too much these days.

icecubefosho
icecubefosho

ALOT of people with PCs have mics. Playing PVK II or Battlegrounds 2 are prime examples. My brother had a 360 and I played L4D on that and since we were too cheap to spend $20 nearly everyone we had played with were blasting us and getting pissed off at us for not having mics. Mind you many of them were underaged kids that now would say L4D is gay/boring/sucks compared to Modern Warfare 2 which hasn't even come out. Half Life 2 and its engine should've stuck in the PC Realm. We're getting the shaft too much these days.

wiirkokonuts
wiirkokonuts

I enjoy Crash Course very much. I can play versus now without it feeling like it will never end. My only problems are the obnoxious amount of glitches. Once Valve fixes those I'm happy, and I don't understand why so many people are getting so upset about this. They will fix it, and anyway, if it wasn't for Microsoft, it would have been free for 360 gamers too. So calm down.

wiirkokonuts
wiirkokonuts

I enjoy Crash Course very much. I can play versus now without it feeling like it will never end. My only problems are the obnoxious amount of glitches. Once Valve fixes those I'm happy, and I don't understand why so many people are getting so upset about this. They will fix it, and anyway, if it wasn't for Microsoft, it would have been free for 360 gamers too. So calm down.

mackey12345
mackey12345

@ icecubefosho How many PC gamers have mics? Not very many. On the 360, it's much easier to coordinate with you team, namely because of reliability, your almost always guaranteed to play with people who have mics. PC is fun, but I don't know many people with mics, they are intent with just typing away whilst I get mauled by the infamous tank.

mackey12345
mackey12345

@ icecubefosho How many PC gamers have mics? Not very many. On the 360, it's much easier to coordinate with you team, namely because of reliability, your almost always guaranteed to play with people who have mics. PC is fun, but I don't know many people with mics, they are intent with just typing away whilst I get mauled by the infamous tank.