Rockstar hunting down Red Dead Redemption cheaters

Next title update for open-world Western aimed at eradicating "rotten apples" plaguing multiplayer; title update coming to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 next month.

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Rockstar Games' Red Dead Redemption has won both critical success and commercial triumph, but the developer recognizes there are lingering issues with the game. Namely, these concerns are in the game's robust multiplayer component, where Rockstar says a few "rotten apples" are attempting to soil the experience for others.

The noose is falling on cheaters.

In order to eradicate cheaters from the world of Red Dead Redemption, next month, Rockstar will implement measures to counter hacking and cheating. However, the developer's attempt to rid the world of cheaters started today, with Rockstar promising it won't hesitate to promptly ban offenders for however long the developer deems necessary.

Further, the title update will provide anti-grief measures for the game's Free Roam mode. The developer said those who are being "bullied" will have the option to transport and respawn to any location they wish.

Additionally, those acting as bullies will be branded as such after six consecutive kills, at which point the aggressor will instantly earn Most Wanted status. This mark will alert players that there is a "player-killer" in the region and will also bring the heat from non-player character law enforcement.

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peanut-butter
peanut-butter

MW2 dawned the age of console cheaters. Sarcastic yay.

Pumpkinhead3
Pumpkinhead3

I recently got in a co-op mission with a ton of guys. like 14 or something. It was nuts. and they were shooting each others horses, and someone casually crashed the wagon, causing us all to fail. Is there a limit on how many people can be in a co-op mission? Rockstar is doing good, keep it up.

Aidan125
Aidan125

Its nice to see that Rockstar cares, unlike another developer we all know....

Laiska_pummi
Laiska_pummi

Next they should stop FFA boosters in MW2 somehow.

rpgisforme
rpgisforme

I had a bullying problem, it was only a few daya afetr release and I was in mulitplayer. Some guy came outta nowhere and killed me but every time I respawned it was so close to him that he just kept on killin me over and over again .. I couldn't get away. There should be more then a wanted level to ppl who act like idiots. After 6 consecutives kills there should be like a 24 ban on them or something ... nobody kills the same person 6 times in a row by accident .. it's obviously bullying

robCROW75
robCROW75

all this sounds good but what they really need to do is make it so posses only count as one vote when it comes to randomly kicking people. Also, what about the host booters (DDOS)? Haven't seen it recently but there was a night when I got booted out of every game and session I got into. Yes, I know what a host boot looks like. How will they fight this?

NicAgent
NicAgent

Does this mean we can get the Most Wanted achievement for getting a 6 killstreak on someone?

condelirios
condelirios

The problem is gangs of people in the game, just flat out killing whomever walks up...over and over again...even at the expense of completing a mission. Along with people telling others via the headset to "go away" and things much less nice than that. It is good to see they are cracking down on people being morons with no recourse.

Alethir
Alethir

It's good to see they're doing something about cheating, but this bullying thing is a bit stupid. I wouldn't make it so the "bullied" player gets to teleport to wherever they wish, that's kinda lame in my opinion, and pointless. If you're doing a gang hideout for example and get jumped, teleporting across the map still ends what you were trying to do, might as well just join a new session and try the hideout again. Something like after being killed by the same player 6 times, you cant get damaged by them for a minute unless you damage them first would be better. Gives the loser some time to run away or atleast finish up what they were doing.

WolfGrey
WolfGrey

I know this comment is too late.But im no fanboy.I have two 360s.They just stopped working at some point and became my supports to my bookshelf.^_^ im not joking either Sorry but ill take the better running system lol

Aesahaettr
Aesahaettr

Opinions Geoff-uk123. You understand this concept? Clearly only from a biased perspective because my negative comment should be 'kept to myself.' In future I suppose I should take your advise and only post positive things about games you like...

x-2tha-z
x-2tha-z

I played free roam for the first time last night. It was also the first time I'd experienced this bullying. Two guys came to my location and killed me. Every time I spawned they'd come and kill me again. I did nothing to provoke this attack. I ended up having to leave the session because I couldn't get away from them. IMO these new features can't come soon enough.

sartnd
sartnd

There are more then thousand cheaters in starcraft beta... not sure about red dead redemption but I'm getting one shotted by some and it's not a head shot.

Holy_Terra
Holy_Terra

sounds good to get rid of cheaters but I mean giving a player killer a most wanted status is a bit harsh and sending the law after him. I tend not to be one (if someone is swearing at me over a mic i will shoot him XD) but I tend to get attacked and if i do, I just have a vendetta against them and kill them a load of times, and (not wishing to boast) quite commonly get 6+ kill streaks on them. So this is essentially saying if I defend myself with "excessive" force (like always) then Im going to become most wanted?! bollocks, but hey any anti cheating stuff is alright but i havent met any yet.

lister82
lister82

At least their trying. Unfortunately console cheaters are becoming just as common, if not more so than PC cheating.

Triton
Triton

Cheaters and liars, gotta get rid of them...

Cowboy-Bebop
Cowboy-Bebop

@ MyLameUsername Amen brother. Activision never does anything good for gamers. Even CoD:WaW is getting hacked left and right. Nice to know they'll bleed us dry and not continue to support their games.

jad206
jad206

@stevenugent83 If bullying someone is killing someone ten times my level(I deleted my mp save so I am level 8) and they have 3-4 more teammates then me, AND there is no auto-aim(Hardcore) Why should I be in the wrong. Their just taking the side of the casual/terrible people for the game, which is wrong.

jaymib
jaymib

Too late, i traded in my game the other day, i was online and all day in co-op people just started shooting all the other players, after a while had enough and traded in the game, not fun when you spawn and die again and again.

Bruce_the_Ugga
Bruce_the_Ugga

What's the big deal? These counter measures aren't as good as simply adding the ability to join public matches where friendly fire is off. Then you could also have public PvP matches where friendly fire is always on. Simple.

Cwagmire21
Cwagmire21

Such failsafes are easy to avoid. 6 consecutive kills? Alright, I'll kill you 5 times, kill an NPC, then kill you another 5 times. Bad thing about people griefing is that they will ALWAYS find a way to do it.

thrasher510
thrasher510

Thank you Rockstar. I hate it when I'm alone just taking down gang hideouts or completing challenges and some people come along and just ruin it for me. I mean its fair if its a 3 on 3 gang war but a couple of times its just me and a friend and 5 or 6 people will just gang up on us, we shouldn't have to leave because someone else is being a jerk.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

Now if only this could be done with MW2.

GunGriffin
GunGriffin

I just wish more games would allow this kind of system to kick in. BFBC2 has a vary good system even on PC for players who try to walk outa the map to get the jump on people: First line the game has is a missile that kills said players vehicle, second line is a motor strike, third and final line is a sniper shot that kills the player outright. It keeps them in the play feild and has helped deter bullies online big time, they also found ways to stop exploits like Stat padders, and insane physics fans who do things that the engine was not built to do. IE the C4 infinity jump from BFBC2s Beta was removed, so was the C4 spamming where you could get like 50 C4 in one spot and blow up a mans tank only to have him land 10 min later and explode. There are ways to deal with these people the way Red Dead Redemtion is doing it is perfect for that game, but to do it with other non open world shooters like COD, and other games will be a different story. I personaly like the damage reflection system used in COD games, it keeps them from shooting team mates, but it dose have a draw back and thats the fact that you as another player can simply step in front of a man on the mini gun and he dies and you get to steal his guns after it's over. The best style is the vote system but that often takes forever and on PC at leasts gets abused to no end in online matches. I like the active admin way report the mans name and the admin bans him/her from the server.

BattleSword1
BattleSword1

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lookin_boy
lookin_boy

this game sucks anyways .... way too much of a fan base full of noobs and cheap cheats.They KNEW this would be an issue at some point.... r* is getting a LIL lazy... same old junk sandbox is dying

jer_1
jer_1

This is awesome, good call Rock*! I will be sure to hop on and play some free roam here and check it out.

Hugomanen
Hugomanen

Install a feature in which whenever a bully is killed his respawn will be a public hanging :D

razorzs
razorzs

red dead redemption is enough, we need to play maxpayne 3, i'm still waitin for maxpayne 3, R* please do something.

CapitalistPride
CapitalistPride

I play this game a lot, online including, and had no idea all this "griefing" was a problem. I suspect that it's not. If someone is having a problem, leave the game and join a new one with different players. Rockstar's trying to fix something that DOES NOT need to be fixed because it's not broken. No matter how hard a company tries, there will ALWAYS be trolls or "griefers" or whatever the hell you want to call them. What Rockstar should be focusing on instead is trying to fix all the glitches in multiplayer, especially in the coop missions. But no, Rockstar wants to try to "fix" a problem that's not actually a problem so that it looks like they did something. Not fooling me Rockstar....

Diablo-B
Diablo-B

Bullies would definitely make noobies not want grow and develop their skills in the online games but I'm not sure exactly why bullying would be such an issue that it would require counter measures. If you cheat you should obviously be stopped but if your picking on the weak then your a jerk but I'm not sure why that would require that rockstar find a way to stop you from being a jerk. Whats the issue here?

P.S. I'm not much into the multiplayer thing, but have thought about it, so please enlighten me on the real heart of the problem.

VidGamAnonymous
VidGamAnonymous

Good idea Rockstar. Kill the bullies, but make it fun

sportwarrior
sportwarrior

The public enemy system sounds awesome. Not just to punish bullies who pick on the weak, but to engage the community against good players that decide they want the challenge. Awesome.

jasonlc3221
jasonlc3221

1. What fun is cheating when you win all the time? Obviously your goals in life are set so low to where you are not challenged what so ever. YOU LOSE 2. You probably suck so bad at the game that you have to cheat. Once again: YOU LOSE

CHasingTheSun
CHasingTheSun

@GunGriffin I understand what you're saying, and you do have a point by saying bullies will keep killing if the victim is too weak. But the public enemy system in this game seems to work perfectly, there are people out there, and I'm sure 2 or 3 in every lobby do, that hunt public enemies, for exp or just for the heck of it. So I'm guessing the Public Enemy system will be the stepping stone in the griefing end, and will make the difference in this game, while it didn't work in others.

AirBizkit89
AirBizkit89

cheaters ruin games for themselves too pay 60 bucks n be bored a day later cuz you have everything. woah lotta fun

DarkAngeles
DarkAngeles

This is great! I don't see any point in killing other players in Free-Roam, especially since you only get like, 10 XP anyway.

GunGriffin
GunGriffin

Lets hope that the NPC Low enforcers are better at their jobs in this game then the ones in GTA titles where they all just kinda roll over and die constantly. Honestly other games have done this measure before and if they are took weak the bully player will just beat the crap outa them for the fun of it and kill at will anyway. If they are stronger then any play which IMHO is the best way to go they will whine up a crap storm about it. But at least they will pay for their crimes. I wish games like Halo, and COD, as well as BF would do this kinda stuff to stope cheaters. Have a noobie whos killing you for guns or your kit constantly? After 6 TKs they get hit by a random sniper shot, or a group of AI soldiers who have stats, and weapons and skills that no player can stand up too. That would effectivly end TKing in online games you mess with the bulls and the horns come down on you like arty from above. In fact in halo Reach they could make it so if you act like a jerk and TK constantly you get hit by a randome sniper round in the face untill you stop, or leave the server.

cornerback3
cornerback3

Let's hope this solves whatever problems with cheating/hacking this game has. It's always a shame for a game's online fun experience to be ruined by people who cheat/hack.

CHasingTheSun
CHasingTheSun

Griefers are fun, I love it when someone pointlessly kills me, or anyone from my posse of friends and we dedicate ourselves to hunt them down until they leave the game, always fun.

jay_rock_
jay_rock_

Thats good 2 hear GS is kinda late too this story but at least they got up on here..

offspringthing4
offspringthing4

I don't see any problem with bullying but the new update should make it pretty entertaining.