Rock Band metal non-transferrable to RB2

With Rock Band 2 less than two weeks away from its expected Xbox 360 debut, Harmonix today revealed more details about the game, including the transfer of songs from the original Rock Band and a smattering of free downloadable content for the sequel. First off, Harmonix shed some light on the...

With Rock Band 2 less than two weeks away from its expected Xbox 360 debut, Harmonix today revealed more details about the game, including the transfer of songs from the original Rock Band and a smattering of free downloadable content for the sequel.

First off, Harmonix shed some light on the process by which players will be able to play the on-disc songs from the original Rock Band in the follow-up. A new Rock Band title update arrives today that will add an "export disc" tab to the game's "Extras" menu, allowing users to convert 55 of the game's 58-song setlist for use in Rock Band 2. The title update will also be required to play any future downloadable content on the game.

In addition to the title update, Harmonix also specified the three songs that won't be covered by the transfer process. One genre that won't be making the transition smoothly is metal, as the excepted tracks are from some of the game's heaviest hitters. The songs that won't transfer to Rock Band 2 are the cover of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid," the cover of Iron Maiden's "Run to the Hills," and Metallica's original recording of "Enter Sandman." The European release of Rock Band also included a selection of international hits on the disc, one of which--Tokio Hotel's "Through the Monsoon"--won't be transferrable. The transfer process will require a fee of 400 Microsoft points ($5) to compensate license holders for the expanded use of the first game's songs.

Finally, Harmonix also included word of some free downloadable content for Rock Band 2. The game's already-revealed on-disc setlist of 84 songs will be supplemented after launch with an additional 20 free downloadable tracks. The developer did not specify which tracks would be included in the postlaunch freebies.

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dchauvey
dchauvey

so when are the free tracks coming?

KravenZero1
KravenZero1

Cool, just knock off 3 out of about 6 of the good songs on the first game. Nice move. This coupled with the horrendous Guitar Hero tracklist might have just made me lose all faith in rythem games. Good thing I actually play the guitar in real life so I can actually listen to good music.

clubadam
clubadam

This is an awesome deal a steel really for anyone buying Rockband 2. Really what game has ever allowed you to take the content from one game an directly use it in another (we're not talking about an expansion here). Guitar hero never even tried to do this if they did I probably would still be playing it but I lost a lot of love at loosing so many tracks. I am so stoaked about getting my copy today and the first thing I'm going to do is pony up the five bucks and expand my library!

Anaxis_
Anaxis_

You have paid for the right to play the songs on Rockband 1, if you dont want to pay for the transfer fee then don't... just stick in Rockband 1 and play whenever you want, not sure why people think this is unfair.

Calebman
Calebman

By the way, I'm sure they buy licenses on a per game basis, so don't be upset with Harmonix that we have to pay. Its totally reasonable, especially when you consider the fact that Guitar Hero does not do that. I can't even get the GH1 songs on 360.

Calebman
Calebman

No Run to the Hills? Noooooooo!!!!!! That was the best song on the whole disc!!!!

mailbox2112
mailbox2112

Wow, paying to play songs you paid for...that's not screwing you over at all...

lamplan
lamplan

If I never have to play "run to the hills on expert drums again I'd be ok. Enter Sandman on the other hand... :(

SkeletalKnight
SkeletalKnight

what I'm curious about is how will the songs downloaded for RB1 transfer over to RB2? Or will they automatically be accessible just by being on the hard drive and having RB2 in the system?

MR_SNUGGLEZ
MR_SNUGGLEZ

BTW for all of those wondering how Freezepop got n2 the game one of the Rock Band producers IS IN THE "BAND" so yea that's that

MR_SNUGGLEZ
MR_SNUGGLEZ

It's quite simple. EA had to re-license all of the songs for use on Rock Band 2 because they only had the rights to use them on Rock Band 1. So when they went to re-license them they were unable to make deals with the cover bands of Paranoid and Run to the Hills as well as Metallica.

cutmaclass1
cutmaclass1

"Didn't we already PAY for the privilege to use those three songs?? I think it's really crappy how the owners of RB have to shell out 5 bucks for THREE songs that are included with the purchase price. And of course, the MIGHTY METALLICA *cough* is at the center of something that caters to having MORE money in their pocket!! Shame on you Harmonix for not taking the hit on the price as well as the labels / bands for being asses and wanting more money for their already burgeoning pockets!!" Did you not read the article? You're paying 5 bucks to transfer the 55 songs that AREN'T Enter Sandman, Run to the Hills, and Paranoid. There's no way to be able to transfer those songs. I think it's completely reasonable. It's better than not being able to transfer the songs at all, and - quite frankly - more songs made the cut than I thought would.

RoC1909
RoC1909

Didn't we already PAY for the privilege to use those three songs?? I think it's really crappy how the owners of RB have to shell out 5 bucks for THREE songs that are included with the purchase price. And of course, the MIGHTY METALLICA *cough* is at the center of something that caters to having MORE money in their pocket!! Shame on you Harmonix for not taking the hit on the price as well as the labels / bands for being asses and wanting more money for their already burgeoning pockets!!

VEKSD
VEKSD

NOOO ENTER SANDMAN!!!!!

mikesea
mikesea

So i can't transfer 'Monsoon'. If i buy it as a download will it work?

Ardiendo_1
Ardiendo_1

How will it 'expand the use of the first games songs'? It's not like everyone who buys RB2 will be able to use the songs, just the ones that already own (and have paid for) the original game.

kingsalami
kingsalami

Today in the news: Over-rated aging rockstars demand a lot of money to maintain lavish lifestyles, isolating fans... Good-hearted Harmonix refuses to charge thier user-base the difference... heres tom with the weather.

kingsalami
kingsalami

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Imagine09
Imagine09

well the reason for enter sandman can be easily explained. they charged way to much for the expanded use of the song. probably the same goes for the others too

Thewbacca
Thewbacca

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Thewbacca
Thewbacca

....why on earth only those ones? And will we still be charged for it on the Ps3?

FreeBallz
FreeBallz

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Komissar33188
Komissar33188

Ouch, three of the best. Oh well. So long as they make up for the loss of Run to the Hills with some decent DLC...

otanikun
otanikun

So you literally have to pay to play? Bad form guys, bad form, but the free downloadable tracks is a nice touch, and if they're free they better not suck.

Kingofgamez
Kingofgamez

ah, enter sandman and run to the hills were a good time on the drums. but hey, 20 free songs to compensate...im down. so that will make a minimum of 159 songs on release, plus whatever downloaded songs you have. thats a massive library. cant wait.

MysticDynamite
MysticDynamite

Enter Sandman I can do with out, but I'll miss Run to the Hills and Paranoid.

Visible_ninja69
Visible_ninja69

Im only mad about enter sandman cuz its fun on drums

Sethbeastalan
Sethbeastalan

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Sethbeastalan
Sethbeastalan

Not a huge loss, I'm really glad it wasn't worse. There's no question I'll still get RB2 and transfer the originals.

-abacus-
-abacus-

It's not like you won't be able to play it ever again, you just have to swap out disks. So Stop whining you idiots

roboticCoward
roboticCoward

Here's my reasoning behind two of the songs: "Run To the Hills": Harmonix = EA, EA = Viacom, Bruce Dickinson hates Viacom and due to his standing in the music industry, said "hells no" to Rock Band. "Enter Sandman": Guitar Hero: Metallica. No it's not a confirmed song, but it's very likely it'll be in there and judging by Metallica's licensing of their album to GH:WT, I'd say they prefer the Guitar Hero franchise. As far as the Black Sabbath thing, no idea.

Jshaw71
Jshaw71

i wonder why these songs will not be transferable, and will we be able to play them at all in RB2, is this a liscening problem or a techicnal problem? i guess we'll have to wait and see...

bomb_11881
bomb_11881

Why do people think Enter Sandman isn't transferable due to exculsive rights for GH:WT. Metallica's Battery is one of the songs on RB2.

gmagnus
gmagnus

"Ok here's a question, what about all the downloadable content from Rock Band? Will THAT be transferable?" Wow, you haven't been paying attention at all, have you? :P "Only three songs won't transfer? I guess it's not too bad. I'd like them to say 'why' these 3 didn't make it (royalties?), it can't be just because their considered "heavy metal"." They did say so, GameSpot just left that part out. "Expanded usage rights for these particular tracks were unable to be secured from the music licensors for this feature."

ruffluffs
ruffluffs

I would like to see more lame independent artist like freezepop Get_Shorty go blow the biggest blackest chubby you can find. they need more independent artist

ruffluffs
ruffluffs

Although DOA and want not are fun to play because you can growl just about anything and still get perfect

ruffluffs
ruffluffs

those songs suck anyway all METAL is good for is a good laugh because its so ridiculously cheesy. anybody can growl and squeal like a pig. please don't send me to ETERNAL DAMNATION!!!

joemerchant2006
joemerchant2006

Ok here's a question, what about all the downloadable content from Rock Band? Will THAT be transferable?

Urlacher54
Urlacher54

Dude, I wonder how long it will be before I have to buy a whole new PS3 harddrive just for playing Rock Band games? Any word on how much hard-disc-space the 55 RB1 tracks will take up? I'm getting so sick of these 3-6 GB install files for PS3 games!

steveguttenberg
steveguttenberg

That's cool. Metallica is low on cash these days. Do you think if we all chipped in and paid Metallica's rent this month, they'd let us use the song we already bought?

MonkeyWrench127
MonkeyWrench127

OMG! No Enter Sandman! Is this something to do with Guitar Hero: Metallica I wonder...

Absolutezerr
Absolutezerr

It's because the makers of guitar hero have exclusive rhythm game music usage rights for Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Black Sabbath. That's why the maiden and sabbath in RB1 was covers. And with the making of GH: Metallica, this is hardly surprising.

Absolutezerr
Absolutezerr

It's because the makers of guitar hero have exclusive rhythm game music usage rights for Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Black Sabbath. That's why the maiden and sabbath in RB1 was covers. And with the making of GH: Metallica, this is hardly surprising.

prioritymail
prioritymail

Its weird how -all- other songs made it, but these just can't

Monster_Zer0
Monster_Zer0

Metallica needs more money to put out more bad albums while Dave Mustaine atleast keeps giving us decent ones, some bands need to know when to give up, Metallica being one of them

timmell
timmell

Enter Sandman is the best Song in the game on any instrument. No one ever cares what they play. Metallica most likey wants way too much money for licensing they song again. Which in some aspects I believe they should get it. but they shouldn't be so greedy, they have there lives and millions.

Get_Shorty
Get_Shorty

The free songs are probably some more lame independent artists songs. Ooo more Freezepop

necronaux
necronaux

Only three songs won't transfer? I guess it's not too bad. I'd like them to say 'why' these 3 didn't make it (royalties?), it can't be just because their considered "heavy metal".

fender_player03
fender_player03

mismajor99 Posted Sep 5, 2008 8:39 am PT wait a sec....all the DLC we bought...what about that? That won't automatically work with RB2? Screw this. That DLC should work across all games in the franchise. DO those songs count in the number of songs plus the ones on the disk? I didn't read anything about that...??? *sigh* This only applies to putting your RB1 songs onto your HD so you can play them in RB2. ALL PREVIOUS DLC that you purchased for RB1 will work automatically with RB2 NO EXTRA CHARGE REQUIRED.