Report: Sony profits will be up, game-unit losses down

Enterbrain reports that the PSP outsold the DS 2-to-1 in Japan in April; Nikkei expects Sony's full-year profit to increase by a factor of five.

Sony's game division has had its fair share of financial woes, with losses "arising from the strategic pricing of [the PlayStation 3] at points lower than its production costs and PS3-related inventory write downs" being blamed as recently as last October. However, the worst may be over. Japan's Nikkei newspaper has credited Sony Computer Entertainment's performance for contributing to an expected boost of Sony's current profitability.

In the financial year ending March 2007, SCE posted an operating loss of ¥232 billion ($237 million at the time), but Nikkei is reporting that this year, that loss will have been trimmed by ¥100 billion ($967 million), helping the company post an overall operating profit of ¥380 billion ($3.6 billion). This is five times the profit of the previous year, with strong sales of digital cameras also credited by the Japanese business daily.

Though in the black, Sony's performance would be lower than analysts' expectations and the company's own forecast of ¥390 billion ($3.71 billion). Sony's shares were up 3 percent at ¥4,920 ($47.58) on the Tokyo Stock Exchange at time of writing, though this falls far short of their peak this time last year of ¥7,190 ($68.36).

There was other good news for Sony coming out of Japan today, with Reuters reporting that the PlayStation Portable outsold the Nintendo DS 2-to-1 in Japan in April, shipping 380,867 units to the DS's 169,911. Monster Hunter Freedom 2 led the way for Sony's handheld from the top of the software charts for a second successive month.

The PlayStation 3 didn't fare so well, according to the same report. It was outsold 5-to-1 by Nintendo's Wii, which shipped 187,121 units to the PS3's 37,676.

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161 comments
Vasot
Vasot

Fortunately Splinter Cell Conviction will pwn MGS4 Splinter Cell Conviction is a XBOX360 exclusive and i hope it stays that way

Kitsukage
Kitsukage

@ lilazeonboa: The problem isn't within the console; its within the price, which is deterring people from buying it, despite the fact that its selling less than its released £400+ cost, from when I purchased my own. The technology is there, but the willing customers are not. As for the sales of the Wii, I'm not all impressed. I've seen and spoken to a number of people who have sold on their Wii console because they haven't enjoyed the experience with it. Not to sound rash, or anything, but I personally think that true enjoyment can only be brought out of the Wii from the more epic Nintendo fans. I went out of my way to purchase Twilight Princess for the Gamecube, because there just aren't enough games I'd enjoy on the Wii for me to warrant buying it; I didn't want to buy one, just because of Twilight Princess. We'll see what happens with the consoles, over the rest of the year; there's still a long way, until Christmas.. as well as seeing if MGS4 has improved Sony's console sales.

el_hermoso
el_hermoso

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johnpombrio
johnpombrio

The Wii is called a "virus" game system. Everyone buys one but the average number of games sold per console is like THREE even after a year.

00Rambol00
00Rambol00

"The PlayStation 3 didn't fare so well..." bla bla bla... I think everyone knows that the Wii's sales practically beat PS3 and Xbox 360 sales by a long shot. For starters its cheaper then both consoles! jeeez lol

Imagine09
Imagine09

OMG, obviously wii is than PS3 better due to its sales. Just like Honda is better than Ferrari. lol

lilazeonboa
lilazeonboa

wow that was pretty intresting..just hope that monster hunter 2nd g is coming to the US and mang Wii beats the ps3 really bad...hope the sony fines its way to improve ps3 lol

DiscGuru101
DiscGuru101

@darkride66: "Sony seems to be hitting their stride again. I read elsewhere that they are looking to start turning a profit on the PS3 hardware 5 months ahead of schedule." Wow. Never say you are not a PS3 fanboy again, it is dishonest.

vivendidoom
vivendidoom

hey gloveman, agentnoone has a point. i got both systems. i like both equally and respectfully. metal gear solid 4 just may surpass the xbox in sales for month or so, and pretty much, does it really matter who likes what system? stop complaining people and just start realizing we all have different views on the console situation. so everyone, seriously, just be a gamer. gamers are supposed to be tight and competitive, just shut up and be cool.

agentnoone
agentnoone

wow uh Gloveman08 your pretty stupid commenting about a system that no one really cares about atm so (how can i say this without swearing) SHUT UP!!!!

akiwak
akiwak

Great reason to own a PS3 now, go get MGS4...... can't wait just paid for the pre-order.

PhoenixVenom
PhoenixVenom

this is the only reason that could make me buy a ps3, i mean im not gunna but MGS4 is gunna be just plain out sick all of them have been. im def gunna play it cause im wont be able to resist

Otaku_son
Otaku_son

Well, of course the PSP is starting to gain momentum! Most people who want the DS already have it, so it's not like Nintendo can sell more. It's just like that idiotic GameStop policy of selling a certain amount of subscriptions per work day, but you can't sell something to people who already have it.

AbyssD
AbyssD

Dam MGS4 omg its will be so dam good just a perfect game this game and others will beat 360 so badly dam from 2008 PS3 will be the grates system ever made

Gloveman08
Gloveman08

no people, 360 is just the best, deal with it mgs4 is not tight!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donnyp
Donnyp

darkride55 Said "Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm on console #4 now. I like that games but enough already. If it goes in a few months when the 3 year warranty is gone, I won't be replacing my 360. Sure I'll miss out on Fable 2 and Gears 2, but those are the only games I was looking forward to but they aren't enough to buy the console over again. Hopefully replacement console 4 will last that long. Sony seems to be hitting their stride again. I read elsewhere that they are looking to start turning a profit on the PS3 hardware 5 months ahead of schedule." Lol. I dont even own a Xbox360...yet. I got my PS3 and Wii but the thing that makes me giggle is how often the Xbox360 screws up. My friends at random started throwing out Random Graphical errors so he sent it in the get fixed came back worse lol. Im waiting for a solid Exclusive title to come out on the 360 befre i get mine. Probably gonna have to wait till Fable 2 comes out. But enough if this. Can't wait for MGS 4 to come out i know it'll boost Sales hardcore.

darkride66
darkride66

ctg867 said "when my 360 isn't broken. *Waiting 1-4 weeks for my console to be repaired*" Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm on console #4 now. I like that games but enough already. If it goes in a few months when the 3 year warranty is gone, I won't be replacing my 360. Sure I'll miss out on Fable 2 and Gears 2, but those are the only games I was looking forward to but they aren't enough to buy the console over again. Hopefully replacement console 4 will last that long. Sony seems to be hitting their stride again. I read elsewhere that they are looking to start turning a profit on the PS3 hardware 5 months ahead of schedule.

_guenter_26
_guenter_26

ctg867 Well when you got a bunch of other people sending in 360s your going to have slow service and the hardware isnt crap.

ctg867
ctg867

Well I hope so. PS3 hardware and software sales are up. Same for the PSP. And both systems have huge years ahead of them. Glad to be a PS3/PSP owner. Glad to be a 360 owner also.... when my 360 isn't broken. *Waiting 1-4 weeks for my console to be repaired* Gotta love that slow ass customer service to fix that piece of crap hardware. Love the games and the online, but my god that hardware is crap.

_guenter_26
_guenter_26

How the PS3 get out sold by the Wii 5-1.

MC_nairn
MC_nairn

ummm... im no fanboy 09231991 but all the titles u listed as exclusives really arent that big of hitters (except ninja gaiden 2 and gears 2, ill give u that ;) the first fable didnt sell that well and we havent seen anythin in the way of gameplay for halo wars yet. nobody has a clue how too human will do (could be really sheety fo all i know). and alan wake, ALAN WAKE?!? come on. can u really list that as a heavy hitter? im not tryin to be an ass or anythang but u have to get ur facts strait first befo u start bashin people. and plus, u left out little big planet ;D

09231991
09231991

Nice thenephariousson. Honestly, nobody knows sh!t about the 360 capabilities. Its already been stated multiple friggin times that the PS3 still has a lot of untapped power, but so does the 360. The 360's untapped power is not as much as the PS3's, but its still there. A very close company known as Epic has even stated that while working and utilizing on the 360 with Gears 2 that theres still a ton of potential left in the 360. The jackrocks, the 360 isn't getting worse, its getting better. Plus it still has a lot of really good exclusive titles left as well. And lastly, felipinet7, your the fcking crazy one. First off, Fallout 3 is coming to 360 as well so that game is pretty much invalid for your reasoning. Exclusives this year for 360 are Gears 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Too Human, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, and many others. Exclusives for PS3 are MGS 4, Killzone 2, Haze, and nothing else Resistance 2. So lets see, 6 exclusives against 4, hmmm, pretty obvious I'd say. And yes, I do like the PS3, but I LOVE the 360 and prefer anyday, but I will eventually get a PS3.

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

skilled-gamer "From what I see the 360 is alrady pushing it's limits in all of it's games so if you want to get into true next gen technolgy just look at the PS3 it still has more time to grow but the 360 just seems to be more expensive to maintain and constricted." A simple demonstration of your sheer ignorance & narrow mindedness would be GOW, as the Original was released over 2 YEARS AGO! it looked very good and still does, however GOW 2 looks FAR SUPERIOR 2 years on (see GOW 2 Tech Demo for details). What you have to get into your head is that the P$3 & 360 are very evenly matched in the power department, however the real power lies in the hands of the Dev's as they are the ones who trully have the ability to bring out the best in our consoles.

ldksparda21
ldksparda21

wow nearly profited 3 billions dollars as a company that is a good thing for them, and seeing all the great things they are releasing in the coming month i can see great things> With mgs4 boosting the sale of their consoles, GTA4 already doing some of that, LBP, Socom Conf, Killzone 2, and more coming im glad to own both consoles. Well my 360 is out of order for the next 4 weeks what a bummer.

wilmepe
wilmepe

Was only a matter of time.

alfie1980
alfie1980

thekodaman...have you actually ever played on both consoles?i've yet to be that impressed by my ps3.and some games look better on my 360, so thats your theory blown out of the water.

jay_rock_
jay_rock_

Wow thats nice to hear they doing things right this time around.....

Rect_Pola
Rect_Pola

Why are people still going on about consoles like, "if you want this get A, but money's tight or you want this get B" all the time? These aren't PCs that (in theory) do the same things better or worse. Video game consoles DO NOT & HAVE NOT had identical libraries since the dawn of time. 3rd parties may make multi-platform titles, but unless there is glaringly difference (say for the Wii), they are largely the same experience and you're still defining a console on their unique games. As for the article: the PSP in Japan is interesting, what are they doing for japan's gamers they aren't in America? And if they do know what japan's gamers like, why can't they do it on PS3?

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

@bennae66 some people just way to blinkered , stupid and above all single format fanboys to know it .

thekodaman
thekodaman

The way I see things is, if you're on the "next-gen" fence as it were you have two real choices: The Xbox 360 or the PS3, if money is tight and you cant really afford a PS3 then you go for the Xbox 360 which is like the equivalent of an entry-level gaming PC. If however you want the best possible HD gaming experience you go for the PS3 much in the same way you buy a high-end PC for the best expeience possible.

bennae66
bennae66

i have purchased 1 game, 3 downloadables, an extra controller and a blu-ray remote for my blu-ray3. i have purchased close to 20 games, 35 downloadables (around 20 of them being full live arcade games and 10 being game add-ons) 3 extra controllers, upgraded my 360 to an elite, chatpad, 2 charge kits. which company made more money out of me? its all well and good to sell an extra couple of machines of your console as opposed to your competitors; but ive said it before... attatchment rate (number of games sold per machine and accessories) is where the profits are, not hardware. (oh and for the record i diddnt include my wii earlier with an extra wiimote, 6 games, 3 downloadables, a classic controller and an extra nunchuck. as you can see, i am far from biassed.) case closed.

jackrocks123
jackrocks123

thenephariouson 360s not getting better and better its getting worse and worser

jackrocks123
jackrocks123

lol hmm xbox 360 has been out for 2 and half years and most of its good exclusives are in the past, ps3 has still got good games to come, this year and next.

felipenet7
felipenet7

09231991 @ Tremblay434, Are you forgetting Fable 2 and Gears 2? And yes Halo Wars IS confirmed for this year. So Ninja Gaiden 2, Halo Wars, Gears 2 and Fable 2 against MGS 4 and Haze, yeah the PS3 has a real upper hand, keep telling yourself that. lol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you fckng crazy??? you forgot to mention Killzone 2 n Fallout 3 if you've just an 360 u won't know much about these games anyway LOL!!! besides just MGS4 can trash all 360 games this year!!!

Osceola76
Osceola76

Well, of course the Wii outsold the PS3. The same way the Chevy Malibu will outsell the Ferrari F430 every year. Great Analogy! Couldn't have said it better myself :D

rynmls
rynmls

developers need to read this reports regarding the sales of psp...

weltall1028
weltall1028

Cool, maybe more developers will decide to make their games on PSP instead of DS.

JackfnBurton
JackfnBurton

Well, of course the Wii outsold the PS3. The same way the Chevy Malibu will outsell the Ferrari F430 every year. It's rather pointless to compare sales figures for two products aimed at completely different types of consumer.

skilled-gamer
skilled-gamer

From what I see the 360 is alrady pushing it's limits in all of it's games so if you want to get into true next gen technolgy just look at the PS3 it still has more time to grow but the 360 just seems to be more expensive to maintain and constricted.

09231991
09231991

@ Tremblay434, Are you forgetting Fable 2 and Gears 2? And yes Halo Wars IS confirmed for this year. So Ninja Gaiden 2, Halo Wars, Gears 2 and Fable 2 against MGS 4 and Haze, yeah the PS3 has a real upper hand, keep telling yourself that. lol

Tremblay343
Tremblay343

First of all thenephariouson, get a life. Are you honestly rechecking this page all day to see what people have posted about you. Now onto the topic of the news article. Good to see that the PSP is still going strong. Although pretty much all of Japan must have like 3 DS's by now, so i think that might have something to do with it =P. Oh and with all this stupid fanboyism going on on this page, im going to give a more mature outlook on whats going on right now. i.e not just going omg the ps3 is too expensive, you must be retarded for buying it, cause it has no games lolololol!!!!!11!!!one!!!11! This Year, imho, Sony does have a better line up of exclusives coming out than the 360 . The 360 definitely had the upper handthe last couple of years. But this year with games like Haze and MGS4 coming out exclusively for the PS3, all i can say is its not going to be a boring summer. On the other hand all ive seen on the 360 exclusive side this year that we know is coming out for sure is ninja gaiden 2. Halo wars isn;t really confirmed, neither is too human, alan wake or anything of that nature. Sony had a slow start but they are certainly catching up.

sykalob
sykalob

i am sorry ..the ps3 is lost somewhere

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

Stonetowerghost "Wii is a nex-gen console because it tests unchartered grounds." **NEWSFLASH** Motion sensing technology IS NOT 'Uncharted Grounds"

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

nextgenisps3, LOL, Thats right, you try to justify your purchase, and come to the assumption that makes you feel most comfortable! LOL

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

@nextgenisps3 Just look at the lineup before spouting cack please next time .

nextgenisps3
nextgenisps3

thenephariouson actually you indeed very wrong, the 360 is getting worse. no more good games and less sales. while the PS3 has many many more first party AAA games Like MGS3, GOD OF WAR, SOCOM, GRAND TURISMO 5, PROTOTYPE and many many others. the 360 is only going down.

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

"worthlessdude66 u know ps3 keeps catching up, people aren't to familiar with the ps3 yet but when they do were getting way better games which means soon it will be better then xbox 360" Thats quite a common assumption, however you forget that the 360 is STILL getting better and better!!