Rainbow Six: Patriots was "not good enough," so Ubisoft started over

Ubisoft NA president confirms "the game wasn't working," so developer started over; now headed to Xbox One and PS4 "if and when it comes out."

The version of Rainbow Six: Patriots shown off to the world in 2011 was "not good enough," so Ubisoft started over on a new version of the game now aimed at Xbox One and PlayStation 4, North America president Laurent Detoc told IGN in a new interview. The first iteration of the game was planned for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC.

“We had a core team. They had a good vision. They got started, and then the game wasn’t working. So [they had] to start again,” Detoc said. “There’s an editorial group in Ubisoft, a big group, very influential. If the game is not good enough, they say it’s not good enough. Most of the time, the team will say, ‘yeah, I know.’ But sometimes they want to continue in a direction where you say, ‘no, it’s not going to work.’”

Detoc explained that Rainbow Six: Patriots "had to be remade." He did not, however, provide any examples of the specific ways in which the game has changed compared to its original design. Ubisoft's original announcement said the game would follow the counterterrorism Team Rainbow squad as it attempts to put down a group of American insurgents known as the True Patriots.

The game was also planned to feature "tough ethical decisions" players would have to make to thwart the True Patriots' budding revolution. It's not clear if such decisions are still part of the game.

Detoc further explained that the power of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 should be a boon for the new version of Rainbow Six: Patriots, though he's unsure if the game will ever in fact be released.

"Now they’re going to have the benefit of the new consoles, if and when [Rainbow Six: Patriots] comes out," he said. "It’s one of those examples where you try, it doesn't work, you try again. If it does't work, we’re not going to bring it to you."

Detoc also said Rainbow Six: Patriots could be called something else the next time gamers see the action game, though no other potential titles were mentioned.

Rainbow Six: Patriots is in development at Ubisoft Montreal with assistance from Ubisoft Toronto and Red Storm. The Rainbow Six franchise was created by prolific military author Tom Clancy, who died this summer.

The Rainbow Six franchise last surfaced on consoles with the 2008 launch of Rainbow Six Vegas 2. For more on the tactical shooter, check out GameSpot's review.

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81 comments
gamer112696
gamer112696

I feel like most of my favorite games are always delayed. First it was Battlefront, and now it is Raibow Six! uggh...hopefully Ubisoft will be able to make the new version of Rainbow Six work. I would be disappointed if it never came out.

Sn0wGl0be
Sn0wGl0be

Well I hope that we're still expecting the same kind of game, I was looking forward to RSV: Patriots and was very interested in the game's theme and what it was about.


Maybe the original script or being able to play as the "True Patriots" didn't garner enough propaganda for the "Military-Entertainment Complex" in the game (Tom Clancy games are great but sorry to say propaganda is what they revolve around), but hopefully the "remake" will at least be similar to what was shown to us. 


Oh well, guess this means more fun with RSV2! =) 

gamefreak215jd
gamefreak215jd

First Prey 2 now Rainbow Six Patriots.I do hope both the developers know what they are doing.

Meltic
Meltic

if its not good enough why even show a gameplay footage and fool us ?

StephenSays
StephenSays

Rainbow six was not good enough so ubisoft started over AND made the Division.

Good call Ubisoft.

GlaciusXL
GlaciusXL

All I want from RB6 is a feeling of some sort of realism. I don't need it to be a simulator or anything but I just mean that I really hope all the BIG SCALE SET PIECE OMG LOOK AT THIS COOL STUFF BLOWING UP isn't a focus point. Or superhuman perks like bullet-time or whatever. Gadgets, weapons, and tactics. Keep it about forming a plan of action and pulling it off without a hitch and all the cool things associated with it. We need more than just another point, shoot, push forward, watch scripted dramatic moment. That void has been filled.

eelektrik
eelektrik

I hope they take a long hard look at the roots of the franchise, and what set it apart from other military shooters at the time. If you want me to buy a new Rainbow Six, I want more tactical planning, less 'Call of Duty'ness.

stealthyninja81
stealthyninja81

I have to say for such a huge company Ubisoft has impressed me lately. They delayed Watch Dogs even though it missed the big console launch so it wouldn't end up like BF4, they've made games like Blacklist and AC4 which have gotten a lot of praise and they are willing to scrap one of their most anticipated series instead of powering through it and going "oh well Im sure the name will sell enough copies maybe next time it will be better"

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

The premise for this game was so good. It had me totally interested. But then it disappeared. I wonder if it will stick to the original plot or change into a completely different beast.

Pyro978
Pyro978

 Would anyone go into a combat situation like that with no helmet? Just for what? To look cool repelling down the archspan of a bridge with combed hair?

DomZeal
DomZeal

First of all change the cheesy name.

shreddyz
shreddyz

ooh ubi are perfectionists now! Since when?

55584623
55584623

well this is pretty good, nice to see they had the honesty to start over.


Fabian85
Fabian85

Good that ubisoft has some type of quality control. Ea should learn from this. They should be thinking coop tactical not fast pace action.

Sozialminister
Sozialminister

Why didnt they cancel those R6-Vegas games? There wasnt anything good about those either.

M3o5nster
M3o5nster

I'm okay with having The Division instead of this... I'd like to see a tactical FPS though, since DICE is letting EA's obsession with COD ruin the Battlefield franchise. Spinter Cell Blacklist was a great game too, so I look forward to seeing what they do with that franchise for next gen.

Gegglington
Gegglington

theyve just swapped the name its the division not rb6 3

Tigerbite2
Tigerbite2

As long as the multiplayer is still similar to Rainbow Six 3, I will lose my life to this, whenever it's released.

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

Make it hardcore tactical to, fuck the kids and cod noobs, they are the reason why the Clancy franchises failed

Gegglington
Gegglington

just watched the trailer its the division

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

Make it like the 1st 3 or don't bother, the last 3 were an embarrassment to tactical shooters

Hollowdimension
Hollowdimension

If this was an EA game, the head of EA would say "ship it anyway. If it sells good enough, maybe we'll patch it later.

gamist
gamist

Well, I'm glad they're trying to push for current gen (PS4/Xbone) because otherwise, I think, we would be playing the same'o Ranbowsix on previous gen. RS: Vegas 2 was good but it felt a bit recycled.

I would like to scenarios where I can infiltrate a fortified building (by terrorist, i.e. Diehard) and losing hostages won't restart the game. There are plenty of ideas that they can borrow from action movies that can be used in the next Rainbow Six.

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

Yes, I've pointed this out in a comment a few days ago.

quinnd6
quinnd6

There's no point in talking about the game at all if it might never come out.


shreddyz
shreddyz

@DomZeal I think it's a fitting homage to the late Clancy. I know it was named before his demise but why change?

eelektrik
eelektrik

@shreddyz Isn't that basically the reason we have yet to see Beyond Good and Evil 2 other than a short teaser trailer a few years ago?

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

@Hollowdimension grfs was in development for 5 years with a do over and they shipped it out in beta state. EA never shipped out garbage as bad as that game

cancelthis
cancelthis

@quinnd6 it will - i mean if crysis made it to consoles so this cud too

quinnd6
quinnd6

@cancelthis Crysis was different though. They never said it might never come out for pc. This guy said the game might never come out on any format. It doesn't sound good for it.  He obviously has no confidence in it when he's saying stuff like that.

noladem504
noladem504

@DomZealI thought the 'Patriots' name was kick ass. Especially in this political climate we have today.

emperiox
emperiox

@b74kd3th@xsonicchaos WTF are you on? Vegas 2 was awesome. I loved the door breaching where you could take your suppressor on and off.

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

@b74kd3thNo k! You're talking about "like this and not like that". What, you can't type more than a phrase? Tell us (and Ubisoft alike) what to do in terms of gameplay (I assume) and not to do in reference to the "last 3 games". Go.