Rainbow Six: Patriots Was Canceled to Allow for a "Next-Gen Experience"

One of Patriots' developers explains why that game was dropped in favor of Rainbow Six: Siege.

Rainbow Six fans are finally getting a new game in Rainbow Six: Siege, but what about Patriots, the previously planned game that had been in development for several years? According to the developer, it was dropped in favor of Siege because it wanted to provide "a next-gen experience," and it was simply easier to "clean the slate" and start fresh.

Speaking with Rock, Paper, Shotgun, Patriots assistant graphic technical director Olivier Couture described how the game's roots in last-generation hardware contributed to its cancelation. "To be completely transparent, I worked on Patriots--on Rainbow Six for three-and-a-half years--and Patriots was old-gen," he said. "Xbox 360 and PS3. Next-gen consoles were just around the corner, and we were like, 'OK, we want to also have a next-gen experience. What can we do for that?'

"We were trying stuff out with destruction technology, and we realized destruction really changes the game. We tried to see how it could fit with old-gen, but it just didn't work out. So for us it was just a better solution to clean the slate, reset, and make what's best for the players.”

This all tracks with what Ubisoft's Tony Key said last year when it was announced that Patriots had shifted from last-generation systems to Xbox One and PlayStation 4. "Rainbow 6 got caught in the transition of going to next-gen and essentially we're figuring out 'well, are we making the right game for the right hardware systems?'" Key said last June. In August, Ubisoft's Alain Corre said the company was "iterating" on Patriots, but would not confirm whether it would continue to use that name.

Patriots had been planned as a story-focused game where a counter-terrorism squad was tasked with dealing with American insurgents going by the name True Patriots. Ubisoft said players would have to deal with "tough ethical decisions."

So far, there is no sign of any of this being present in Rainbow Six: Siege, which was announced last week at E3. What we've seen so far is fun (if troubling with the way it handles women), but it's all been multiplayer. The game will, however, have a single-player component, though Couture says he can't discuss it because the scope "is not completely clear yet." He also said, "I can't say if it will be more cinematic [like Patriots was] yet."

Siege, which has been in the works for about 18 months, will launch in 2015 on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC.

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brandowilliams
brandowilliams

Don't think I will be buying this now. I was so excited to kick the governments ass in patriots.

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

Rainbow six patriots looked amazing. Siege not so much. still crappy MP footage wasn't really much to go by.



Zombrex
Zombrex

Realistically it was scrapped because everyone had a sh1t-fit when they revealed that Patriots was a game about killing fellow Americans(US govt. vs. guerrilla groups). They can spin it however they want, but that's the truth.

JachAnen
JachAnen

I still want it. It looked awesome. More so than Siege does. If they had just made Patriots and given Siege as the multiplayer mod of the game, Rainbow Six would have returned so strong that no one would ever forget it (at least for the next 10 years).

gba1989
gba1989

I don't mind if devs keep making the same game over and over again but when they say "next gen experience" it's as if there is something innovative that they could add to the old formula aside from the visual upgrades.


Or maybe that's what they meant " the next gen experience" ?

hystavito
hystavito

I'm all for more realistic materials penetration, but it looks like they took it way too far.  I guess they're going for the sort of wow cool destruction people, rather than the people that just want firearms to affect the environment in a more realistic way.

Johny_47
Johny_47

When I saw that video of Patriots on the bridge I was very excited, now I'm not at all. Everything they showed looked boring, it's been done before and better. Battelfield's got destruction like that and it's much better, the gameplay looks crap and that e3 demo sounded so fake, like hell does anyone on internet games talk like that, division's demo was the same.


Those developers should take notes from little big planet's team for stage demo's, that was genuine =P

DeadrisingX1
DeadrisingX1

No, you cancelled it for a half assed version of the much beloved game: Counter-Strike. Potential: wasted.

Ripper_TV
Ripper_TV

How can you scrap 3.5 years of work? I don't believe it.

complacentcouch
complacentcouch

They had a really great premise and they trashed it in favour of a Counter-Strike clone? Really? Poor choice Ubisoft. 

asiminicd
asiminicd

MORE LIKE NEXT GEN BULLSHIT
E3 2014 GAMEPLAY DEMO GRAPHICS  dont even look that good..a bit more destructability GAMEPLAY almost like SWAT game series

bluebird08
bluebird08

good, developers need to drop PS3 and 360.

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

I guess multiplayer fanatics will enjoy Siege, but I was way more interested in Patriots. Sounded like it was going to have a damn good narrative. Was the first time I was actually interested in a R6 game.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

Siege mode better not be the only mode.  Hopefully there's single player (if not story at least maps and modes), bots, and game modes where if I die I can respawn, I don't want to spend half my time with this game just watching other people play.

That tech demo would have been way, way less cool if we were watching that match from the perspective of the first guy to die.

VastGameMaster
VastGameMaster

There, now everybody go into your rants and get it all out.

foxrock66
foxrock66

Shut up, Ubi. You had a masterpiece on your hands with Patriots but you scrapped because you were worried about political backlash. Call me back when you have something beside this kids game to offer

xXxIRyanxXx
xXxIRyanxXx

Patriots sounded really cool and at least something new in terms of a story, I love R6 so hopefully this will be good.

cboye18
cboye18

Wow these developers keep making mistakes over and over again.


Stebsis
Stebsis

It's kind of stupid how some devs are talking about "next gen experience" when it's also coming to PS3 and 360. I know Siege isn't though which is just nice, but for example Destiny devs have been raving about this. How is it something truly next gen if almost 10 year old hardware can run it just fine apparently.

Gallowhand
Gallowhand

R6: Siege hasn't convinced me yet.  The demo they showed was okay, and the environmental destruction is nice, but from what I could see that map was cramped and small.  I enjoyed past games in the series, like Rogue Spear and Raven Shield, because you had larger levels, multiple avenues of attack, and the squad mechanics that allowed you to have two or three teams tackling particular pathways or objectives.

What I saw in the demo was more akin to a SWAT assault, so I really hope there are larger and more interesting maps, scenarios and objectives, and the ability to have more than one squad on each side.  Even if they can't do that for multiplayer, I really hope it is there in single player mode.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

Yeah, they had to delay it so they can make a game where a female SWAT member saves a modestly dressed, calm and non-hysterical female hostage, and have that still be extremely sexist in Gamespot's eyes.

Kevin jumped down my throat the other day for criticizing Gamespot's sexism criticism of game companies, for my dislike of Gamespot labeling numerous developers as sexist for various illogical reasons. but I don't know why he got so defensive, here's Gamespot doing it again.

I think Gamespot is sexist b/c I notice most of the journalists are men.  And if you disagree with me Gamespot, it can't be due to logical reasons, if you disagree for whatever reason then it means you are immature scoundrels that must hate women.  That's the way this thing sexism thing has been argued so far.  It's total dogma.

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

I'll wait till the games out to get excited but I haven't wanted a r6 in a long time and I want this. If they proceeded with patriots I wouldn't give a second glance

Zee1027
Zee1027

I just wish when they show games off like this and The Division, they just nix the terrible voice acting. I mean, who tells their team to "be careful" before they start the match??

Xcalibur_basic
Xcalibur_basic

@hystavito Like the BF3 CQC expansion? It looks like they did go a bit overboard with destructible environments.

Zombrex
Zombrex

@Johny_47 My clan and I talk like that when playing Battlefield. You kind of have to.

Fugicara
Fugicara

@DeadrisingX1 Well except that it looked better than Counter-Strike, which isn't really hard at this point.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@foxrock66  I'd be concerned about backlash too if I were them.  According to Peter Bergan on CNN, the domestic terrorists have caused more deaths since 9/11 than foreigners or Muslims.  A very dangerous group.

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

@freedomzealot good for you, you can keep your Vegas garbage while the real fans enjoy what we have been asking for, for over a decade

oflow
oflow

@spacecadet25 I agree. Gamespot isnt sexist though, they actually are heavily biased in the opposite direction where if something isnt totally LGBT PC they bash it as anti feminist. Pretty sure its because a portion of the staff is LGBT.

foxrock66
foxrock66

@b74kd3th It looks like crap. This is more COD than R6. Man I miss the original games

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@spacecadet25 @foxrock66 

You wear a Kool-Aid IV, I imagine.

I bet you buy the nonsense they sell you about returning  veterans and anyone who might question the government are "the real terrorists". too.


But then again, you depend on CNN for the "truth" about what's going on in the world.  You're already so in the dark you've probably forgotten what light looks like.


Christ, propaganda has done a number on the people of this country.


Peter Bergan.  Hilarious.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@b74kd3th @spacecadet25  That's what I'd think too, but in every story about this game since E3 they bring up sexism claims, including in this article.

Zee1027
Zee1027

@monkeyfritz @Zee1027 Then that makes it even more annoying, because it doesn't add anything to the authenticity of the online battle.

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

@freedomzealot @b74kd3th Vegas was more like cod than any r6 cept lockdown. Wait why am I trying to explain the series to anoob who thinks Vegas was good?

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

@freedomzealot Vegas was run and gun garbage and if Vegas was you're only r6 experience you're the idiott on the matter

Stogin
Stogin

@b74kd3th Sounds to me like you're the noob here, I've played all of them, and Vegas was absolutely not a run and gun, if you're saying that, then I don't believe you've actually ever played it...

origkillmachine
origkillmachine

@freedomzealot got to agree here, Vegas was anything but run/gun. Do that and you find yourself dead 95% of the time. It was a waiting/maneuvering game more than anything, relatively true to the series.