Quantic: PS4 like the PC of 2014 or 2015

Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls studio exec touts power of Sony's upcoming next-gen platform, says studio is seeing "big difference" over PS3.

The PlayStation 4 is like the PC of 2014 or 2015, Quantic Dream co-CEO Guillaume de Fondaumiere has claimed.

Speaking with GameSpot at the Tribeca Film Festival this weekend, the executive said the Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls studio is seeing a major difference over the PlayStation 3 during initial tests for its in-development PS4 game.

"We are already seeing in the first [PS4 tests] that we're doing a big difference," de Fondaumiere said.

He explained that the studio's goal with the new technology is, as it has always been, to capture the most realistic and authentic performance as possible. This will translate to believable characters in the end product, he said.

De Fondaumiere also revealed that the PS4 demo (below) Quantic Dream studio head David Cage showed off during the platform's announcement in February was just a "first glimpse" at what the technology is capable of rendering. The studio is working on an all-new engine for the PS4, he confirmed.

Though Quantic Dream's PS4 ambitions may be grand, de Fondaumiere admitted all technology--including Sony's next-gen platform--has limitations.

"There are limitations on the PlayStation 3 and there will be limitations on PlayStation 4," he said. "With the PlayStation 4, it's something that really is more like the PC of next year or two years."

Beyond: Two Souls launches October 8 exclusively for PS3.

Quantic Dream's PS4 game will, according to Cage, retain the studio's emphasis on narrative, though further details have not been divulged. He described the game as "incredibly exciting; it's one of the strongest concepts we've had at Quantic Dream and we're really excited about it."

The game may include multiplayer, a first for Quantic Dream, as the studio is currently seeking an online programmer with a "strong understanding" of the multiplayer genre. An ideal candidate would also have a "very deep and high knowledge" of online gaming and network development.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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odericko
odericko

No, just no.

I'm not going to debate anything. Wait until the first multiplats for PS4/PC are released and see PC do it at higher resolution/better draw distance/higher textures/more FPS.

wolfmgs
wolfmgs

uffff i smell some raped asses from pcgaming fanboys :p

Downloadpilot
Downloadpilot

Damn, I'm looking at the comments and I had no idea they made computers this powerful. Where do you guys shop at? lol

xanthan1
xanthan1

The person who wrote this is a moron. There is no argument they are not.

edinsftw
edinsftw

Im excited for ps4 release as a pc gamer, only because game graphics will not be as limited anymore.

Asetha
Asetha

PS4 is like the PC of 2014?  Then how is it that my PC from 2009 and dual HD 5870's will slay it in every single game that will ever come out?

What a stupid comment to make.  Sure, it may be like a PC with a crap GPU, but a console will never perform like a mere GTX670.  What a stupid idiot comment.

daviz88
daviz88

POWER,POWER,POWER!!!!!!!. it true that the PC is the most powerful, power is a very important aspect  but power isn't every thing

for instance PS2 VS XBOX with out doubt XBOX was superior in terms of hardware but PS2 soled 155 million unit while XBOX soled 24 million

WII was the weakest among it counterpart but it was the highest selling console this generation.looking at stat it not all about power but the gaming experiences the hardware has to over and that where the PC falls short.

Aleksanian
Aleksanian

a sequel to omikron on ps4 would be awesome :)  We can all keep dreaming lol

beowulf1211
beowulf1211

PS4 may be a super-charged PC....but at the end of the day, it depends on how far the software engineers push the hardware. Sadly, only a handful of games have pushed the PC limits, others looks just like their console counter-parts except higher res, AA. Maybe cause PC has a smaller market.

Engineers will push PS4s boundary cause the market is there.

daviz88
daviz88

I think PC gamers are afraid of PS4. i am not taking anything from PC it probably the best in graphics/visual, i just think you guys feel threatening by what the PS4 has to offer. After all KILL-ZONE 2 graphics took gaming visual to the next level then UNCHARTED 2 & 3 sealed the deal. And that was only PS3 so imagine what PS4 (the super charged PC) can do.

Rhys4Peace
Rhys4Peace

is it so fucking hard for everyone to get along? why do some PC gamers, like this vongroove dipshit a few comments below me, insult people how play on consoles. PC and consoles are fucking equal; they both have their ups and downs. The sooner these idiots learn that, the better.

johnnycaged
johnnycaged

So... Why not have a next gen console and a high end pc? ..Or is that like blasphemous or something?

Kano92
Kano92

Nintendo is to gaming what Nerf is to sports.

TheClown24
TheClown24

I'm pretty much exclusively a PC gamer these days...and yet I don't feel the need to insult the ps4 in the slightest. The main thing that holds the PC back these days is the fact that a lot of our games are ported from consoles and therefore scaled down, however with more powerful consoles the ports will be far better, seems like a win-win situation to me... Also I don't see why people get so annoyed about all this stuff, yes you can do a lot more with a PC and there are many many fantastic games and even genres that are almost exclusive to us, however my PC cost me £1500, which most people simply can't afford and that's fair enough, for those people there are consoles which serve as perfectly adequate and enjoyable ways to enjoy games on a budget. 

Valen_Ca
Valen_Ca

"He explained that the studio's goal with the new technology is, as it has always been, to capture the most realistic and authentic performance as possible. This will translate to believable characters in the end product, he said".

Maybe I am old fashioned but you can easily make a character believable without high end graphics and animation, it's called investing in good writing (voice acting as well nowadays). You can have the best looking, best animated  character ever made if the writing sucks, or the voice acting is crap, the entire illusion breaks and you are left with nothing but an expensive tech demo.

vongroove
vongroove

The real morons are people who buy consoles and think that they are in some way better than PC uses?

Consoles have 

Limited controls

Limited Camera Angles

Limited Tech

Limited Graphics

Limited Expandability 

Limited Game play 


PC has none of these problems!

So in what way are consolers better? They do NOTHING that a PC can do! Then all this "elite" crap comes about, it's called sour grapes! Knowing they have a lesser machine, and think because someone who spent 1000K on a machine to play games that  is primarily made for consoles is a snob! No consolers are just cheap bastards, with limited minds that a PC game offer!  graphics cards are released every year costing more than a console, but yet people still buy them!  Consoles should be released more, say every 4 years, then at least the tech would keep up!

PsV1710
PsV1710

@Downloadpilot lol my PC has not benn updated in 2 years and its way more powerful than the PS4 componets, its more powerful that 3 PS4 combined... and its not even a Top end PC, its only mid high end...

freestylar02
freestylar02

@Asetha dont be a typical pc fanboy, all fanboys suck, regardless of their preference! the writter was probably refering to what they have found the new ps is capable of doing with an optomized engine, you should read more and get off your power chewing pc high horse, both are viable options in there marketed space.

i own both current gen consoles and a mini atx sli gamer

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php 

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@Asetha Yeah I don't even know what the guy is talking about.. it doesn't make any sense.  Hey Quantic optimize and put all of your development funds into a GTX 690 or an AMD 7990 and then get back to us. I think a GTX 680 or an AMD HD7970 is like 2 to 4 times more powerful than what we will be getting in the consoles. /head scratch.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@daviz88 That's a completely different argument. Most people that would like to game don't understand PC hardware or feel over whelmed with just using a PC in general.. even though its never been easier. Updating drivers etc.. which really is a piece of cake nowadays. Of course cheaper consoles will sell more and I don't blame those people that only choose to game on a console. Unless you bought a WII because if you bought that then you are in a different market altogether.

xanthan1
xanthan1

@beowulf1211 It's more like a midrange PC that will be horribly dated by the time they move onto the next one.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@beowulf1211 Its really not a super charged PC, its got a unified memory structure using GDDR5. that is the only  major difference and memory speed is way over rated. Most games see a 1-3 fps difference between good old DDR2 and DDR3. And GDDR3 vs 5 depends on the bus structure for bandwidth. But since all the development costs go to the consoles there should be some major optimizations which will push the relatively mid ranged hardware to create some amazing stuff. + Porting to PC should be no trouble at all.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@daviz88 Just the opposite PC gamers need the PS4 and nextbox to be amazing. Gaming all depends on the consoles because as of now developers are not willing to invest millions of dollars toward the PC platform. Consoles are where the money is at. I should say "publishers are not willing" Developers would be more than willing.

sammoth
sammoth

@daviz88 No not threated more. It's actually a laugh when the hardware in a next gen console is behind the PC I have now.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@johnnycaged Well I most certainly have a gaming PC and the current gen consoles. I am mostly a PC gamer but consoles are the heart of the core gaming world.

G-Man4ever
G-Man4ever

@johnnycaged This is heresy! We will find you, and we will burn your HDD/SSD drives down!!! (JK, it's fine if you can afford it)

Saketume
Saketume

@johnnycaged Of course you can.

I used to do that in the past when there was a difference between consoles and PCs.

I feel less motivated now that the new consoles basically are PCs.

I don't want to support PCs as a closed platform.

If it can run on a PS4 or the new Xbox there's no reason it can't run on a PC.

It was different with the PS3 since it had its own hardware.


The only thing I don't like about gaming on PC is the mediocre controller support. There's always trouble getting it to work in every game.

If only windows and game developers would support _real_ plug & play for xbox and PS controllers I'd be happy.

freestylar02
freestylar02

@vongroove heres one for you stooge! a ps4s energy consumption is said to be better than a ps3s, a new ps3 draws 75watts under load, 190 if its a fat ps3! my mini atx draws about 870 running sli under load from a 950watt psu. but as you stated the pc does everything a console does and more, so please build me a pc that gives me close to 2 teraflops and runs on 75 watts or even 190watts and i will pay you my money instead!

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@vongroove Ok, I prefer a controller, and when playing PC games will use a controller where possible, even on FPS!!!!GASP!

Camera angles? Don't see any support for that argument since both PC and consoles can see in a full hemisphere around any given point if need be.

Yeah yeah graphics are better on PC. Sing a new song, I've heard this one.

Expandability, yeah don't really care. My xbox can still play the games that are released on it. My old PC on the other hand cannot.

Game play? Seriously? A console designed for games has limited game play? When was the last time you played a racing game without a controller or wheel? Didn't think so. Consoles don't have RTS, so they're tied.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

@vongroove 

smh

another tool in the shed that needs sharpening....I could debate this with you but its clear you've got a one track mind and not here to discuss.  Try not to jump up and down on that soap box of yours....it looks shabby.

tazdevil33
tazdevil33

@PsV1710 @Downloadpilot the difference is GDDR5 ram and that the whole system can talk to other components at this speed.

Factor in no overbloated operating system and you can get about 5 times the performance out of the PS4 than you can out of a similarly specced up PC seeing Sony is allowing them to code directly . It will definately make things interesting if nothing else.

Asetha
Asetha

@freestylar02 The thing about good writers is the reader doesn't need to think of what the writer probably meant, because what he actually meant is plain as day.

So you think he was talking about an optimized engine when he explicitly said 'rendering'?  Rendering is done through GPU horsepower, not optimized game engines.  

The idea that a PS4 based on old tech will outperform a PC of next years' tech (Maxwell, HD8XXX series, Haswell) is a laugh.  And an idiotic statement.

No fanboy, just stating facts.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@sammoth @beowulf1211 Yeah but it still thought it was bigger. When I realised that only about 15000 people were playing Bioshock Infinte when it was released on Steam I was shocked. At best there are 25-30 thousand people on online shooters at any one time. On console there is probably that many in each game type.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@sammoth Yeah and most of the games are console ports, good job the power is getting put to good use.

daviz88
daviz88

the power of PC was never in question my problem is why all the hate.

G-Man4ever
G-Man4ever

@Saketume i agree, the controller support lacks on software developer side (HW there is more than enough to choose from). I just hope that with the current Oculus Rift trend they will continue to build on it.

vongroove
vongroove

@freestylar02 @vongroove lol WHO CARES about power lol! PC people can afford it! LOL what system you running Im running an i7 3770 with sli 680 not drawing that an 850 watt XFX LOL WRONG! HAHAHAH!

vongroove
vongroove

@Dannystaples14 @vongroove Yeah and that's why games play so badly because they are programmed around console controllers, that's why AI even to this day sucks because of the controller, controllers are too damn slow to react like a mouse and keyboard can, game play is limited to because yet again the controller limits when you can do in game... Everything about a console limits everything in a game.  So instead of making a great game with amazing AI and great graphics they have to hold bakc because little old wittle console can't handle all that at once...  PC can!

eyematter
eyematter

@Gravity_Slave @vongroove 

Vongroove, these kids have no idea how a game is made, and what it takes to program and convert software so it works on consoles. They just keep repeating the talking points of their corperate masters. But thats all in the past, now that Consoles are just going to use standard hardware. Don't you get it kids? They gave up trying to have unque hardware. The new Consoles are more or less just media centers now.

Downloadpilot
Downloadpilot

@tazdevil33 Definitely gonna get one of those once they come out... and maybe after Sony does it's first price drop. I know how they get, lol

freestylar02
freestylar02

@Asetha valid point, hardware is very important to rendering, but the capability of an engine makes a huge difference to a system as well. more so on a closed system like ps an xbox where they have a different system of process handling between the gpu and cpu.
new engines use the available resources better than previous ones do, thus why different games or sequels played on the same setup are generally progressively better in the graphics department.
even different engines focus more resources on certain thing more than others like physics, framing, draw distance, or even lighting over raw res on render quality.
eg, crytec and unreal

Wahab_MinSeo
Wahab_MinSeo

@daviz88 I will tell you, all Consoles graphics & gameplay first they making on PC if there not making it on PC there will be no Consoles Gamer!!!
That I make a sense. :)

daviz88
daviz88

WHAT THE HELL? man that is weak comeback. that does't even make much sense.

vongroove
vongroove

LOL SLI 690 Yeah right! Bottle neck LOL!

vongroove
vongroove

@freestylar02 @vongroove Then someone should tell the Americans that there petrol wasting cars is a joke and that polluting everywhere just because they want cheap forever energy, this!  I bet they don't give a hoot!

freestylar02
freestylar02

@vongroove @freestylar02 i7 3930 and  sli 690s, and yes power does matter, when there will be power capping and carbon taxes it will become expensive to want to run a pc drawing that kind of power in comparison.
not to mention the environmental impacts if everyone had a similar attitude.

vongroove
vongroove

@Dannystaples14 @vongroove A joypad is in no way as good or even equal to a mouse it just cannot compare!  WOW is not a taxing game try UT3 with a pad or Starcraft 2 with one, it's just not playable!  A joypad does not have pin point accuracy like a mouse, you have to take a lot more time no matter how good a console player is just to get far away shots, try BF3 and be as good with a pad as a mouse I guarantee you the mouse will own the pad all day any day!  I have played console and PC all my life and when laser mice came out it was a world away in difference!  Halo on an xbox controller is just hell... Slow sluggish, and just not as controllable.  

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@vongroove Well I don't know, I once tried to use Xpadder to map the controls for World of Warcraft onto my Xbox controller.

The main issue was that there simply are not enough buttons on the controller to assign all of the keys. Even using the bumper buttons like shift so that you can get extra keys out of things like d-pad and the standard A,B,X,Y buttons. 

I was very close, but the controller being too "slow" sure wasn't the issue. If anything a full 360 degree turn of my character by simply moving my thumb a centimeter to the side allowed me to spin and move faster than my mouse allowed since I had to physically move that a number of inches across my desk. Just in terms of physical movement the controller should be faster.

The range of movement with a given stick or mouse can be adjusted of course (sensitivity) but I find the fact that a stick can be moved with just a single digit on your hand I can control that better than moving a mouse which requires you moving pretty much your whole hand or maybe I suppose depending on your style move your forearm as well?

That is of course my own opinion and I haven't played much FPS or things on PC, while I've played thousands of hours on Xbox. So much so I simply can't re-learn how to do it on a mouse. I have it down on controller and am better on controller, the fact one is better than the other remains to be seen really.

Would be a cool video to do actually get an console champ and a PC champ together and see which wins any given set of matches in a modern FPS. Black Ops 2 or BF3 or something. All done on identical rigs over LAN or something so the controller is one of the only variables and see if one clearly overtakes the other.

Asetha
Asetha

@Imperiacommando 

Second class citizens with a shit ton more money to spend.  Hahahaha


Enjoy your pleb console.  My GPU costs more than what you paid for your ps3+ps4.  

sammoth
sammoth

@Dannystaples14 @eyematter Actually there are a lot more PC gamers than you think. You're just assuming a number but, the reality is downloaded games are not counted towards units sold in the open world game market. Eyematter has a point. Steam has been doing this for years and many people have followed suit. Both PSN and Xbox live have some sort of downloadable games. If the rumors stands true the newest version of the Xbox 360 will have no Optical drive.

tionmedon
tionmedon

@Imperiacommando  and coming from a cow getting milked from sony .................thank u..........fap it..........

Uber-G
Uber-G

@eyematter

Do you really work for Valve? I know that the internet isn't exactly known for being a medium that bears linguistic sophistication, but the lackluster way in which you comment really does make me question your validity. How can someone who adopts the tone of a high school student and who defines their profession by saying they "actusually do work for Valve" be linguistically qualified to work with computer languages day in and  day out for one of the biggest video game companies in the world? Sorry for being confrontational, but you're not selling me on your authority, despite how often you cite it. 

As for your position on consoles, this last generation does prove that the efficiency of game studios is hindered because of multi-platforms and the specifics of all their respective hardware, but the coming generation seems to be the generation that will offer affordable (maybe even subsidized) consoles that will bring homogeneous tech to those of us with non-gaming oriented rigs. Because of this, game quality should go up, and hopefully the restrictions dividing console and PC hardware will be diminished enough so that PC's won't have continual "post-release" releases from a previously console-oriented market. If you would step back from those myopic lenses with which you base your opinion, you would see that current console direction is seeking to unify the gaming industry more so than in the past, and this transition is better for the gaming audience as a whole, regardless of preferred platforms. Consoles aren't dying; they're seeking to bridge the gap between the "mainstream" and "hardcore" audiences to provide a comprehensive atmosphere in which game developers may reach the majority of gamers with their products.

eyematter
eyematter

@Polygon_Pariah @Imperiacommando 

Sorry, my lunch break ended so i couldn't chat anymore. I actusually do work for Valve, but me telling you that doesn't make any differance in your world. Dannystaples14 is clearly a 14 year old kid.... and Imperiacommando is more than likely a balding 20 year old. Blizzard made more money from wow alone, than the Xbox 360. The most money is not in consoles my friend, you guys are just blowing smoke up each other's ass's. Keep listening to what your console overseer's tell you.

botulox
botulox

@Imperiacommando Yes, yes it can. It was invented on a PC for PC, you dumb ass piece of shit. Go learn your tech before you spew your ignorant console kiddy shit out your arse.

vongroove
vongroove

@Polygon_Pariah @Imperiacommando LOL Skyrim on console looks like it came out when the xlame cam out.  Skyrim on PC now looks like a game that came out 4 years ago with mods (something consoles can't do) LOL!

vongroove
vongroove

@Gravity_Slave LOL Consoles hold back games PC don't LOL! Your proud to (soon to be PS4, 720) be an owner of already old tech, you looking forwsard to your new console tech that was released on Pc 1-2 years ago LOL!

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@Polygon_Pariah @eyematter Yeah I did wonder why a game dev would spend the majority of an afternoon arguing on an indie games site and at the same time revealing to everyone he is in fact a dev for one of the biggest names in gaming.

Most devs are actually busy.

Polygon_Pariah
Polygon_Pariah

@Imperiacommando 

Don't forget Red Dead Redemption, they still don't have that.  Took them a decade to get StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 too.  tsk tsk Ohh didn't PC gamers finally get the long awaited Brutal Legend the other day?  lucky dogs lol

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@eyematter You really like to point out that you work for Valve don't you? You do realise no matter how close to the workings of games you are if you give an opinion to someone who doesn't want to hear it, ESPECIALLY on the internet, they will still not listen to you?

Also since the majority of gamers are on consoles, downloading games online will be made compulsory on consoles through things like PSN and Microsoft Marketplace long before consoles become extinct. I mean consoles are where the money is, there are more gamers there. As long as consoles sell and games on them sell, PC will be in the minority no matter how powerful PCs become.

eyematter
eyematter

@Imperiacommando 

Oh wow... we sure are missing out.... Have fun playing a dumbed down version of Fallout 4.

eyematter
eyematter

@Imperiacommando 

Oh and btw... you are lucky you have that PC to hide behind mad guy. You don't know anything, and its pretty apparent, since all you do is throw insults. Consoles are becoming PC.... They gave up, becasue they know that programmers like myself hate their hardware..... lol Gamestop has been bleeding money for almost 4 years now..... All of their profit comes from used systems and games. But didn't you hear? There will be no used games for the 720.... No more returns.... I guess you didn't get the memo you dumb a-hole 

eyematter
eyematter

@Imperiacommando 

lol....... I am glad thats what you tell yourself mad fail guy. You see.... PC gamers use facts for our point, while you morons just throw insults. PC software game makers are the biggest in the world. Valve ( the company i work for) made 3 billion dollars last year with our Steam program. Thats the future you idiot, stores like gamestop are going to disappear becasue its all going to be digital download. We were the first you know. I helped build steam, and now the whole industry is taking the model we created and making it their own. Don't worry, we got more things comin, you'll see, we'll show you.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

@eyematter  @vongroove 

So, do you guys have meetings?  Do the handful of you get together in a garage practicing secret PC gamer hand shakes with a sign on the door that says "No konsole gamers alowed! phooey!"

Its amazing how angry you get.  You'd think someone just  kidnapped a loved one of yours and demanded ransom only after sending you their severed ear...but no, you're seriously ranting about attacks to your little PC ego's that NEVER happened.  G'luck with that.