Publishers undecided on blocking Xbox One preowned sales

[UPDATE] Bethesda, Sega, Capcom, Take-Two, and Ubisoft won't yet clarify if they will allow secondhand games or charge activate fees for next-gen software; EA and Activision only companies not to respond.

Microsoft announced yesterday that decisions about allowing used Xbox One games would be left up to publishers. Though the power is in their hands, the companies behind Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, among others, aren't yet ready to discuss what plans they have for the secondhand market.

GameSpot contacted major publishers including Activision Blizzard, Electronic Arts, Capcom, Bethesda, Warner Bros., Take-Two, Ubisoft, and Konami about their stance on Xbox One used games and did not receive a definitive stance from any company.

Bethesda said, "We haven't had time to fully understand and evaluate their policy." Sega chimed in with, "We are currently discussing within Sega policies relating to the new generation of consoles. As soon as these have been agreed upon with all concerned partners we will make the information public."

A Capcom representative said, "At present Capcom has not announced any titles for Xbox One so any decision regarding allowing trade-ins or loaning games has not been determined."

A representative for Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment said it is unlikely that the company has an official statement, while Grand Theft Auto parent publisher Take-Two Interactive declined to comment.

Konami said, "We have nothing official to share at this time."

Assassin's Creed and Far Cry publisher Ubisoft added in, "We're just now getting more information about Microsoft's plan and starting to examine what it means for our games. We don't have anything new to share right now, but rest assured we'll continue to focus on providing the best experience for our customers no matter how or where they buy our games."

At press time, Activision Blizzard and Electronic Arts had not responded to requests for comment.

Though publishers are remaining quiet on plans for secondhand Xbox One games, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter has been outspoken. In a note to investors today, the analyst said publisher are not likely to block used Xbox One games or require an activation fee.

"In our view, any publisher that disables used gaming risks a backlash or boycott of its titles by gamers, negatively impacting sales," he said.

The uncertainty surrounding Xbox One used games has not hurt retailer GameStop. The company's share value climbed more than 7 percent today.

The Xbox One launches later this year. For more, check out GameSpot's news hub dedicated to the next-generation platform.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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tushwacker
tushwacker

Here's the thing: new games have stayed around $50-$60 for as long as I can remember. However, development costs have increased over this time. Therefore, from strictly a business perspective, they really have two options: 1) Find ways to make more money off of their $50-$60 sales, or 2) raise prices. Personally, I'd rather keep game prices around $50-$60 and sacrifice the ability to borrow a game from a friend/ rent games. I'm also not opposed to the concept of having them all stored on the HD. It's definitely a first world problem, but it is still annoying to get all comfy in your chair/on your couch only to realize that you don't have the right disc in the machine. I understand that some people see this differently, which is fine. However, it's incredibly absurd for so many people to be saying that "you'd have to be an idiot to buy this console". If the 'issues' don't bother you, why would you be stupid to buy it? The Xbox One having a better controller design (again) already puts it way ahead of the PS4 in my books. If the One winds up being a lousy console, I'll just stick with my PC.

not_wanted
not_wanted

They are acting like they don't want the same thing. :|  They must think we're stupid.

MS : "We'll leave the decision at the publishers"

Publishers: "We don't know what MS means by blocking used games" 

The fuk you don't know, you greedy bastards! :D  They can't announce it until after you buy the console. lol

You want to loan your game? Pay a fee. You want DLC that's on disc? Pay a fee. You want multiplayer? Pay a fee. You want to play with friends? Pay a fee. You need pause the game to pee during play? Pay a fee.

YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!

Man, that felt good . :D


jd7904
jd7904

3 minutes to go till press conference

jd7904
jd7904

I'm hoping they will say just kidding during the press conference, but probably not. Hey I can dream can't I. XD

theend3r
theend3r

That kinect still bugs me. Do you think it needs to see you? If not then you can just turn it against a wall and if it does, then I'd wear a mask (if I ever considered buying that crap). :D

ZedThePlatypus
ZedThePlatypus

It sucks but it makes sense.  This gen, at least on Xbox, there will be no difference between a new and used game, seeing as everything needs to be installed on the HD.  MS had to make the choice between pleasing the folks that actually make games or the 2nd hand game market.  Not really a tough decision for MS.

Ayebang
Ayebang

Sony confirmed PS 4 is made for gamers first and would like to protect game industry. So, PS 4 will follow used game policy same as Microsoft.

Ayebang
Ayebang

Yes Xbox 1 make for living room mainly

It makes TV, expensive smart TV, to be its competitor due to it perfectly replace expensive smart TV and, with its powerful CPU, even a lot bettet.

It compete with Apple TV, upcoming Apple TV, that make Xbox 1 will not a fan of Apple fanboys. We can see that the one who radically blame Xbox 1 do not touch any Apple products.

It will replace cable box, at least partly, if its content is good, then, probably, Xbox 1 may be discouraged to subscribe other cable subscription. This will make cable company as its compertitor.

It will replace DVD which make DVD are their competitors.

Microsoft with this powerful Xbox 1 has no fans and this is one of anti-Microsoft comments. 

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

if true...M$ cancelling pre- and post- E3 interviews are a troubling sign to me

> wii u

good_evil
good_evil

@tushwacker Just one thing - Steam sales! Games for $5-$30. Last game I've bought for full price was SC2 :)

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

You forgot choice 3) AAA publishers could get their shit together and stop all the inefficiency, mis-management, and general graft based project design and start streamlining and innovating games. The real reason that AAA publishers (and the console video game market in general) is having trouble staying ahead of the profitability curve has NOTHING to do with the factors you mentioned and everything to do with the incompetence and greed of those involved in the decision making in these incredibly bloated, top-heavy, bureaucratic corporations. Do you often play the role of apologist for the industry and bad design decisions like the One...or are you on someone's payroll to say this inane shit?

Ayebang
Ayebang

@not_wanted Yes PS 4, too. PS 4 maybe does not  inform the publishers what they will do woo

UziKill
UziKill

@theend3r This is also a concern for me but they said gamers will have options to set up their privacy levels. Deactivation of the Kinect while the console is turned off will be an option. They have to put this in otherwise they will be killing parts of their market... not a wise decision... and nothing to gain in letting it on. So believe me, they will allow us to turn it off.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang unless they have system based DRM and a 24 hr check then no...its not the same policy

> wii u

jd7904
jd7904

@racerxgundam I just read an article on destructoid that X1 preorders are big right now on amazon uk. MS fans at their finest :-(

Ripper_TV
Ripper_TV

@mjswooosh Choice 4) (and the one that we will see): publishers nickel and dime you with DLCs to death, taking the final price of a game far beyond $100 point.

durges10152
durges10152

@mjswooosh

"Do you often play the role of apologist for the industry and bad design decisions like the One...or are you on someone's payroll to say this inane shit?"


This proves his point. Everything that you said was amongst your own opinion. Just because you don't like what he does, doesn't mean it is wrong. 


The real reason that AAA publishers (and the console video game market in general) is having trouble staying ahead of the profitability curve has NOTHING to do with the factors you mentioned and everything to do with the incompetence and greed of those involved in the decision making in these incredibly bloated, top-heavy, bureaucratic corporations. "


And you know this how? You can not say that the points he raised are incorrect just because you think they are. Companies now days are greedy. They do things cheaply, which in all means is efficient. The mere fact that you said his vision on what he thought was wrong with the companies was incorrect, but did not give a backup reason of why he is incorrect proves my point.


"You forgot choice 3) AAA publishers could get their shit together and stop all the inefficiency, mis-management, and general graft base."


Once again, this is your opinion. He did not forget anything. Just because you think he did (opinion that he did) does not in fact mean he did.  AAA publishers do have their shit together. If AAA publishers didn't have their shit together then they wouldn't be AAA publishers and they wouldn't be making the top notched games that they do. 



@tushwacker

Can you believe these people? He sounds just like one of those guys who sits there criticizing the Call of Duty franchise, but then goes out and buys it just to own it and brag about it when it finally does come out.


on my own side note:


I think they are doing a great job with the Xbox One. They are really going in the right direction. They see that Billions of people are using the Xbox 360 to watch Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Youtube and what do they do? They add Video functions. That's a great idea. :)

not_wanted
not_wanted

@Ayebang  I hope not but most likely it will be the same on PS 4, unfortunately. :(  

The problem here is that they are all ( MS, Sony and the publishers)  lying. They are all in this together.

Ayebang
Ayebang

@racerxgundam @Ayebang What? not same thing? lol

It seems you want to protect PS 4. It is same thing...man..

once in 24 check in and drm is for protecting pirate. Will you help game industry ? Just want to give hate to Microsoft and do not care anything ?

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@jd7904 @racerxgundam i wouldn't worry though. first year sales good or bad..don't really give u a feel of the cycle. 6 months in i expect decent numbers, as the faithful and tech whores buy it..i expect some decrease in sales near the end of the year...eventually leading to a free fall in the 2nd year. 

i can give examples were a system sold high initially but eventually died. Year 2 is a better indicator of potential success.

> wii u

UziKill
UziKill

@Ayebang @UziKill At the risk of having hate comments from Sony fans, Sony is a sheep, they follow others. They do and say things after others have tried it first and they implement them after. If MS's new platforms works they will try ways to do the same. They did that after XBlive, after Nintendo motion controllers. I'm sure they thought of including a second screen like the WiiU but changed idea after poor sales. Expect an add-on unit for cable on the PS4. :p  - LOL

blackbeltjones
blackbeltjones

@racerxgundam You, dear sir, are an uneducated moron.... just to be fair. Your lack of sentence structure obviously shows me you are either uneducated or haven't reached a grade high enough to have English class. Your uncontained use of vulgarity shows me that you not only have no respect for yourself but also your mother. Your uninformed contrived "facts" need to be researched BEFORE spouting your fanboy rhetoric.

Ayebang
Ayebang

@racerxgundam @Ayebang @jd7904 Not to play game after fail to check in...Who get the benefits when it happen?  Microsoft? Game developer ? No No one. Then why Microsoft invent this. It is for protecting pirate sir. So, Internet down in your primary Xbox 1 will hurt all.

EA alone is not big. Does Microsoft work with EA alone ? Does Microsoft invest in game of EA and other delopers ? To get nothing from resell game, Microsoft will hurt most ? No sit it is the develoers, not Microsoft.

PS 4 will implement the same thing, sir.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang @racerxgundam @jd7904 so when you fail to check into the system after 24 hrs and can NOT PLAY ANY GAME OFFLINE will you still apologize?

i bet you will.

M$ stated that the money spent on R&D was close to a billion, and they paid 500 MILLION for the NFL thing. 

You think a shitball company like EA is ANYWHERE NEAR AS POWERFUL AS M$? you think they dictate policy on Live and on their hardware?

no. i bet you don't. Its just all "its not M$ 's fault" from the sheep. 

don't blame them and GET raped tool. 

i am done talking to you. i see your nothing but a cum sucking cheerleader

> wii u

Ayebang
Ayebang

@racerxgundam @Ayebang @jd7904 You think Microsoft did this without consulting to game developers ? Lol.

the one who get most on used game policy is game developers, not Microsoft. Each game has been invested a lot and sesell it with any no income to developers seems to be at pain.

To hate Microsoft is up to you but think like a whole, not just anti-Microsoft.

24 check in ? ...Any problem? I am not a pirate....Don't care... until it does not disturb my playing game. It help game industry as a whole.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang @jd7904 @racerxgundam ok again. u seem to like not understand basic points. 

DRM from developers is NOT the same as what M$ has done. 

M$ is preventing u playing games OFFLINE regardless if a publisher has an authentication process or not. there is no choice. 

you want to argue because you are a butthurt fan. these points are not even rumors/speculation

M$ has confirmed 24 hrs checks

M$ has confirmed offline game restriction

M$ has confirmed no renting or loaning a game out of the box...how could they possibly know this if it truly was in the hands of "developers"

M$ has confirmed that to loan a game you need to "friend" the person on your profile and wait 30 days

M$ has confirmed that selling a game is to be limited to specific retailers

this is what M$ has stated. You are a butthurt fan. you cannot deal with the raping so you argue. 

> wii u

Ayebang
Ayebang

@jd7904 @racerxgundam @Ayebang Then, why does no game developer say will say my game will be enable to play for used gaem. ? Why do all of them keep mum or say nothing ?

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang @racerxgundam LOL reading comprehension FAIL...LMFAO

you can only offline play for a finite amount of time (24hrs) before you need the check.

sad. how very sad....but also quite funny

> wii u


racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang @racerxgundam who said it? its on the official M$ website FAQ about the xbox one tool. 

and NO publisher...NONE has the power to dictate what M$ does to its hardware. its a muti billion dollar investment on their part. 

U think EA has the strength to tell M$ to make policy decisions concerning your profile? making you wait 30 days? to brick offline gaming?

ur smoking some good shit. pass it around

> wii u

Ayebang
Ayebang

@racerxgundam @Ayebang See this it is the official statement" "With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console," reads Microsoft's statement. "

Ayebang
Ayebang

@racerxgundam @Ayebang In fact, developers force Microsoft on this issue really. At lease, used game will be fee although is not free as before. Don't think Microsoft do it by their own, to be fair both of them Microsodt and game developers make this.

Fail to check in ,no offline ? Your information is exaggerating. Microsoft officially said this ""With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console," reads Microsoft's statement. "

Who said if fail check in, no offline"

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang

PC gaming/PS4 - software based DRM - you fail the verification of the game online, all functions are retained. You can play another game offline. 

xbox one - fail the verification/24 check for whatever reason - YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO PLAY ALL GAMES, whether or not they have a aunthentication process. 

i do not know how much easier to explain it to you. 

> wii u

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Ayebang ur a blind tool. 

software based DRM has been used this generation. E.G. EA's season passes

The DRM in the xbox is system based. Meaning you fail the check you get no offline gaming abililty. 

M$ makes you tie the game to your profile..so you have to WAIT 30 days to lend the game? another example of "hardware" based DRM as publishers could not in any way enforce that policy on their end

Ur a sad sheep man. Spread your cheeks if you want for Daddy M$ but don't ask everyone to do so

> wii u

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@jd7904 @racerxgundam if its cheap i would. 

TG-16 had some good games

y's was pretty dope on CD

like now is the time to buy that stuff...never know when shit becomes hot collector's items

> wii u

jd7904
jd7904

@racerxgundam @jd7904 yes I've wanted one since the TZD ads back in the 90s in the video game magazines, I just haven't ever grabbed one

jd7904
jd7904

@racerxgundam @jd7904  Good for you. I will not be anymore after this gen. There's a certain Turbo Duo I have had my eyes on XD

jd7904
jd7904

@racerxgundam I hope you're right. I bought a 360,Dreamcast, Gamecube,PSP, PS3 and Wii at launch, but I would never buy a system that does crap like this.