PSP2 graphics chip revealed?

Source: The Spanish cousin of UK-based Eurogamer. What we heard: Though the more streamlined, UMD-less PSP Go was revealed just over a month ago at the Electronic Entertainment Expo, reports of Sony's next handheld are already sprouting up. Case in point: a report today on Eurogamer.es, which...

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Source: The Spanish cousin of UK-based Eurogamer.

What we heard: Though the more streamlined, UMD-less PSP Go was revealed just over a month ago at the Electronic Entertainment Expo, reports of Sony's next handheld are already sprouting up. Case in point: a report today on Eurogamer.es, which claims to have uncovered the processor at the heart of the PSP platform's successor, the PSP2. (Completely speculative concept art pictured--no form factor has been revealed.)

According to a handy translation provided by Eurogamer's hardware site Digital Foundry, Eurogamer.es is citing insider sources as saying the PSP2 will be powered by the SGX543MP chip from the PowerVR line of graphics processors. PowerVR is a division of GPU-maker Imagination Technologies, which also specializes in "the creation and licensing of semiconductor system-on-chip intellectual property."

A netbook equipped with a single-core version of the SGX543MP was shown off at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show running Quake III arena at a robust 30 frames per second while playing high-def video. Eurogamer.es claims the PSP2 will be sporting a quad core, low-power-consumption variant of the mutlicore chipset, code-named "Hydra," which can be used for both central and graphics processing. It can process 133 million polygons/second and will boast a 4 gigapixels/second fill rate if operated at the lower end of the spectrum to preserve the PSP2's battery life--more graphics-processing power than the original Xbox. Indeed, the SGX543MP is rumored to be at the center of a new HD-video capable iPhone, since its processors are already used by Apple in the iPhone 3GS. Apple currently owns a near-10 percent stake in London-based Imagination.

The official story: Sony did not respond to requests for comment as of press time.

Bogus or not bogus?: A little thin, but looking plausible. Last November, long after Apple licensed PowerVR tech in mid-2007, Imagination revealed a deal with an unnamed "major international consumer electronics company" to provide a "high-performance forthcoming member of Imagination's PowerVR SGX graphics processor family" for use in a mystery device or devices.

Discussion

277 comments
grgcucu
grgcucu

Two joysticks? Are you kidding?

UNSCLoneStar
UNSCLoneStar

too big why the he// is it so big cant even fit in a pocket rumor crap

realmckoy01
realmckoy01

A screen like that would be sweet for playing game & watching movies :-) But would it be able to withstand a fall?

ColonelX24
ColonelX24

That's a big screen for a handheld...sweet!

THORINATOR
THORINATOR

@ Ravenlore basic I agree with everything you just stated...I'm sure Sony have learned from these mistakes & hopefully the PSP 2 will be amazing!

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

PSP problems. 1. lack of great games from the get go. There were not enough games. 2. Lack of Second Analog stick. This made it hard to port PS2 games. Or download PS2 games to it. 3. Sony did not move to the GO formula from the get go or soon after. The ability to download games should have been a given. Have a system like Steam each time they connect with their network cheek system so it is not hacked.... This would have been great. 4. The extras should have came later. Instead of building it as an all in one on the go item, they should have focused on the games then in later system upgrades added the extras. Like photo, video watching, Sype ... . . . I think these issues will be taken advantage of with the launch of PSP2. In addition a separate format needs to be made with Wifi, Blue-Tooth... that way some HC gamers can have a gaming specific one to choose from and others can get the all in one flavor.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

First this is great. An instant ability to play PS2, PS1, PSP, and Non MS Xbox games. not to mention PSN network games. - - - - - - - - - - - - Only problem is that PS Lite should not have been made, instead they should have went stright for PSP 3000 and PSP go a while ago. Because if PSP2 comes out too soon its just too much for people to have that many different styles out at soon soon next to each other. I was really looking at a Go for a minute but now with this information out I'm going to wait. Look at options and price and Abilities. Then decide what to get.

dannyatkinson
dannyatkinson

I agree with mcuth. This one was great Posted Jul 9, 2009 2:45 pm CT . Sony does not need to be a clone of the DS. If it does it will fail. Sony needs to be an alternative. Something better maby?

dannyatkinson
dannyatkinson

I hope it looks more like mine than the stupid PSP-Go. I also hope that with all that power we are able to play PS2 games. That is an awesome library of games. That would also mean that it must as gamers have been begging for have the dual analog sticks. However it would need 2 shoulder buttons and R3 and L3 as well to play PS2 games. Those would all be great. Sony throw your fans a bone and for once give us what we want.

shani_boy101
shani_boy101

thats the best PSP2 concept i've seen so far, now all they need to do is figure out better placing for those shoulder buttons, make that screen more durable (maybe with what the iPhone uses) and make it pocketable, cos at the moment it looks pretty big. then license it to Sony and it'll be sweet.

fiskefyren
fiskefyren

@ DiscGuru101 lol im sorry but WTH is jurassic park like graphics? rofl xD is that like DVD 420 some.... or 740? xD lol you made my day with the most ******** thing i read so far today xD

zskrabs24
zskrabs24

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love the PSP and any news on making it more badass is good in my book. this is basically saying this could (theoretically speaking with those specs) play the original halo. pretty badass for a handheld. and i know that halo wouldn't happen on the PSP any way and IDC cuz i hate halo.

DiscGuru101
DiscGuru101

Just FYI, the superimposed screen shots = Paintings. But it does remind me of the early PSONE T-Rex screen animations. The ones that advertised "Jurassic Park like" graphics as a possibility...

Burning_Typhoon
Burning_Typhoon

Couldn't they make a disc reader a slide-in, like the PS3, and remove the umd protective casing, or use something thinner? Wouldn't that save room? also, mini-bluray discs wouldn't hurt... Wouldn't do much to help battery life, so, they better make it so it can self charge it's battery via radio waves (I'm not kidding) look up nokia's new self charging phone.

PodXCOM
PodXCOM

@phinsfan How about a thumbs-up?

phinsfan
phinsfan

Just saying some things here: The Wii is current-gen. The PS3 and 360 are next-gen. What else would explain the price? If you think this is crazy-talk, bare with me for a moment. Think of it this way: It's 1991. Sega is about to release the Genesis. Nintendo decides to make the ultra-powerful N64 available for 400-600 dollars. The normal guys are playing Sonic and Comix Zone, while the ULTRA HARDCORE!1 are playing Super Mario 64 and OoT. Be happy there are even rumors of it being around as powerful as the PS2, because if it had PS3-esque graphics it would take plutonium to keep it running over 1 and a half hours. And another thing: FPSes aren't hardcore (I know I'm gonna get thumbed-down for this). FPSes weren't on the NES, or SNES, or Genesis. Platformers were. Platformers were always about gameplay, instead of seeing who can get the most realistic headshot engine. I find the over-saturation of FPSes in today's market to be overwhelming. To the guy who suggested an "FPS portable", please, all us old-schoolers have left is the DS and such. Don't take that away too. We only get one good platformer a year anyway. I also find the notion that any game that doesn't involve blowing crap up to be "kiddy" to be offensive. Good, intelligent game design knows no age group my friend. To all who insist on slamming me for this (i.e. thumbs-down), do it with thoughtful, intelligent rebukes instead of, well, thumbs-down.

Night_dude
Night_dude

@izmickey well i ididnt mean it that way any way forget the whole thing dude its aint worth it

mcuth
mcuth

Xcite79, there are ALREADY TWO touchscreen-wielding options for gamers (Apple and Nintendo), but there has yet to be even a DECENT portable gaming device for hardcore gamers. If you want to continue to never play a single decent FPS on a handheld, then go ahead and get the made-for-toddlers DS and PSP. But would someone please make a GOOD handheld for SERIOUS GROWNUP games???? Please? Microsoft, you're welcome to chime in, here.

izmickey
izmickey

@Night_dude "@izmickey ya i know what i said was dum but still an opinion and buddy what i meant was that Xbox306 is better than the PS3 so sony is trying to make something that ll make er better and i didnt said that they are over duh so keep your comments to your self" So why are you saying things like that concerning a SONY article? You're asking for bad feedback.

Xcite79
Xcite79

Im tired of everyone talking about having two analog sticks. A touchscreen is more necessary for unique and creative games. That is the area that the DS has an advantage of and it proved really useful and great as part of a handheld. That is something more useful.

mcuth
mcuth

You want PS2 games with one analog stick? Why? They would suck.

rexoverbey
rexoverbey

I think it's funny because it will be using the same GPU that was rumored for iPhone 3GS. Imagination Technologies is actually partially owned by Apple and was the same GPU in the PowerVR Dreamcast. It is just the SGX (iphone 3GS) with multiple cores but it is still a good GPU with shader support and dynamic lighting.

Zidaneski
Zidaneski

If its a phone or has two analog sticks then it sounds good.

jmanversion1
jmanversion1

it would be sick if you could use it as a phone aswell, either way, if it is true(as long as its compatible with my PS3) then im buying it

Night_dude
Night_dude

@ flyingteddy ya i agree too it would be great

ChidoriBoyU
ChidoriBoyU

it would be great to play ps2 games on psp but that's a dream that won't come true unless sony make ps2 games downloadable and that ain't gonna happen cuz of the large sizes of the games but i guess they can still convert'em no?

Night_dude
Night_dude

@ flyingteddy ya i agree too it would be great

flyingteddy
flyingteddy

id like the PSP2 to be able to run PS2 games, I have plenty still to play!

daveg1
daveg1

expect this to be a load of garbage.

Night_dude
Night_dude

@izmickey ya i know what i said was dum but still an opinion and buddy what i meant was that Xbox306 is better than the PS3 so sony is trying to make something that ll make er better and i didnt said that they are over duh so keep your comments to your self

sonicmask
sonicmask

MatzeEdend also once again i know, I just love messing.

AndyAlfredo
AndyAlfredo

Sexy. And playing Monster Hunter no less. I would definitely get rid of my umds for this. Hopefully this will soon be reality.

andrew_ribbons
andrew_ribbons

Hrm. Interesting indeed. Sony have caught my attention. Something they don't do very often after the fail-phone i had from them recently.

Chrysus
Chrysus

@meatloaf1993 The picture isn't a representation in anyway of what the final device will look like. '(Completely speculative concept art pictured--no form factor has been revealed.)' Whenever a new console is hinted at people go onto their computers & do an artistic conception of what they think it will look like. It has been going on forever.

meatloaf1993
meatloaf1993

err to everyone saying about the two sticks... look at the picture

Blu-Fan-Boy
Blu-Fan-Boy

i just hope they don't stop developing UMD based games would suck if they did and made it all DLC

Yojimbo25
Yojimbo25

Sounds interesting, but I will wait to hear something official.

Chrysus
Chrysus

Sounds very promising. I know this is fast becoming a cliche but, dual analoge sticks please!

izmickey
izmickey

@Night_dude Last time i check ps3 and xbox360 are the CURRENT generation console. So technically speaking its not over yet. Go make dumb statements like that at the console wars forums.

Hvac0120
Hvac0120

DirectX10 may be a Microsoft product, but Microsoft has no problem collecting money from other companies for licensing fees. If Sony thinks that the licensing fees are worth it, then they also do not have a problem with doing business with Microsoft. Sony's electronics division already deals with Microsoft on several products, the most common being Vaio computers with Windows installed. _

vf21x
vf21x

TWO ANALOG STICKS SONY!!!!!!!

garey017
garey017

Digital distribution only? No thanks, might as well get an iphone or something.

Gum_Horror
Gum_Horror

It would like them to make a psp2 but a better d-pad and dual analog sticks are needed, secondly i think even if Sony was ready to release it within a few years, i think that they should wait until it can be made for less money so they can sell it for less therefore more people would buy it

im-a-roustabout
im-a-roustabout

I also find it funny people hate the price but it's been awhile since a REAL re-design has come out. Gameboy has come out with a brand new design every 6 months or so and people buy it up. NOt that it's a bad thing, but if you add all that up it equals to the price of a psp which has taken 3 years plus to make a brand new design.

im-a-roustabout
im-a-roustabout

I don't understand why everybody wants it to have two analog sticks.....give the masses what they want I guess, but personally I'm tired of people not seeing it as a handheld and more as a playstation 2 in your pocket. Nobody gets mad at the DS for not having motion sensing controls.......sheesh. I think the thing looks cool but it needs a clam shell to protect that big beautiful screen!

mcuth
mcuth

And what could you possible do with ports of most PS1 and PS2 games if you're using 4 buttons (instead of a stick) to walk and strafe??? You think you're gonna love those games when they control like they're on an N64?