PS4 may include DRM for used games - Report

Sony may be considering DRM for used games; Twitter protest calls for change.

While Sony has already confirmed that the PlayStation 4 will allow consumers to play used games, to date the company has not detailed specifics of how second-hand software or any associated digital rights management (DRM) will be handled. Still unanswered is the question of whether or not players will be required to pay additional fees to activate a previously owned game. GameTrailers TV host Geoff Keighley believes that Sony may be looking to follow Microsoft's lead by considering DRM for used games in the upcoming generation.

"Sony I think has been seen as this kind of white knight so far that’s not going to restrict used games. Based on some of the things I’m hearing, I don’t think that’s entirely true. I can’t see publishers allowing one system to do one thing more than another," he said during a dissection of the Microsoft press conference.

Keighley’s comments, which can be heard at the 17 minute mark, suggest that while Sony has not yet officially unveiled details of used games on the device, he doesn’t anticipate it being drastically different to the approach taken by its biggest competitor, Microsoft’s Xbox One.

In February this year Sony vice president of Worldwide Studios, Michael Denny said the company would "do the right thing" by consumers with used games on the PlayStation 4.

"It's not something that I feel I have any further announcement or comment to make on other than to acknowledge with you that it's a massively important issue, and of course we are going to do the right thing," he said at the time.

User famousmortimer on the NeoGAF forum has called for displeased gamers to respectfully tweet at key Sony employees and third-party publishers asking them to (re)consider the move prior to the new console going on sale this holiday season.

Head of Sony Hardware Marketing, John Koller responded to the outreach by gamers, tweeting: "This is why I love PlayStation fans--the passion bucket overflows". SCEA producer, Nick Accordino also replied, saying he was: "Humbled by the outpouring of passionate PlayStation fans and their willingness to talk to us directly. Please know that we hear you."

GameSpot contacted Sony seeking clarification regarding DRM for used games on the PlayStation 4. A spokesperson declined, saying "we don't comment on rumour and speculation."

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mtham5
mtham5

If Sony does not folow what microsoft is doing they will win the console war. Honestly im sick of microsofts bull shit. they make shit devices and shit operating systems and try changing people for everything.

Mcolem61
Mcolem61

If Sony decided to go along with this, which will be bullshit, I won't be buying a PS4.

hairdie
hairdie

if these companies want to make a extra profit then i say we want these new consoles for like no more than 99.00 dollars 

Lawrencevanrijn
Lawrencevanrijn

Pre-Owned DRM is why people are now walking away from XBox One. Sony might consider that. Also, if both take this step, there would be enough probable cause for Price fixing in consoles. this means that there will be far reaching consequences for both. It would not take many claims to stop sales of those consoles all together.

aXeem316
aXeem316

ive already concluded not to buy the xbone 

ill have the same conclusion if sony charges for used games as well

Ather Qadri
Ather Qadri

I have a latest pc with win 7 64bit and i can play all games no matter ps3 or ps2 or x369 or xlive or any older pc games which were released for xp so pc rocks

SHusien
SHusien

This feels kind of fox newsish. Lets speculate, without any hard evidence to stir up people to come to our webpage and post 3k+ comments and view 5k+ ads...

mrfinalfantasy1
mrfinalfantasy1

Damn next gen is going to be a Payne in the ass video game industry are getting money hungry

DjTIEST0
DjTIEST0

i don't  feel sorry for no one here 

cos when they come out with this crap on the PC most of you said 'oh but PC gamer's they are pirates' now take it suffer the pain of the hell with us lol 



XND
XND

says: I am so happy  "SOME" of you guys are supporting DRM.....So lest take it to the next level? Can you pay a "used-fee" on your music CDs.......Oh yeah we should pay a use fee!!!! Let's be dumb and pay a :used-fee" on our Blue Ray Movies as well..........DO NOT SUPPORT DRM OR ANY FORM OF "CONTROL ROBBERY"!!!!! I WILL NOT SUPPORT SONY OR MICROSOFT IF THEY ALLOW THIS !!!!!

XND
XND

says: I will get the Wii U if Sony does the same as Micosoft

ry0uz
ry0uz

If Sony makes the same mistakes as MS even after all the hate MS has garnered then they deserve to fail, simple as that. Hopefully someone at Sony will have enough brains to "do the right thing", but if not, I'm ready and willing to spread some nice hate on them. :) 

adamg78
adamg78

I would like to see instead of DRM  for used games I think it would be great  if you could go on the PS4 store and  Rent games   for like  a week and it would cost $10 or something. that would be awesome . that would be better then screwing us over for buying used games



adamg78
adamg78

even if PS4   uses DRM  for used games the good news is I heard the PS3 will still be releasing new Games  till 2016 which Is great. I'm still buying the PS4 though I buy all my games New  anyways. 

Derek Spence
Derek Spence

HAHAHAH take that u Playstation bitches! UCK YOU

Jrizzle86
Jrizzle86

Here is the thing. Both the Xbox One and PS4 will have some sort of DRM over used games. It is out of their control because it is determined by the games manufacturer. If you're reason for not getting either console is because of that then you are very naive. 

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

I feel so conflicted. I don't think it's gamers' natural right to pass games around on the second hand market, with some users paying next to nothing to play the game. But I also don't want to be restricted by DRM on when and where I can play my games.

I hope Sony implements any DRM in such a way that after the first installation, my PS4 will remember that I own the game, and subsequent installs and use on the same machine will no longer require online authentication.  There should also be a mechanism to bind games to a new machine, with reasonable limits, in case the old one breaks. Some of the very unpopular DRM methods for PC games might work for consoles due to the fact that most users do not go through numerous hardware iterations during the console's lifetime.

Finally, many gamers do not feel that $60 is fair price to play (as opposed to own, a term I use loosely) a game. I hope there will be more services on next gen consoles and other devices for gamers to access games with a variety of pricing options, but that's a different topic.

CeZar_87
CeZar_87

People are hilarious. I can't for the life of me figure out why people thought this would only be on the XBOX One. This will be a new developer, publisher tactic to curve used games sells. So if it's on the XBOX One you better believe it's going to be on the PS4, but fangirls don't think with their brains.

puukusa
puukusa

They [publishers] should also realise that second-hand market fuels overpriced first-hand market. A lot of people who buy new games hope to get back a part of their money, which they use to buy more new games. By hurting second-hand market they will also hurt first-hand market and this DRM strategy may lead to sales decline not increase.

Anyway, I will still have my PS3 for some time and I have a powerful PC. Current retail price at my local store for new PS3 AC3 or FarCry3 is $92. If that will be my only option, then I'm not buying any of next-gen consoles

naryanrobinson
naryanrobinson

Wow they sure are going to feel the burn of that one if they go through with it.

zenstrata
zenstrata

If sony does the same thing microsoft has - i.e. requiring a fee to play a used game, or requiring any online connection to let the console function - then I will not be getting either of the consoles, and the game publishers will have one less customer for these devices.  We don't really need games.  But games do need us.  They better remember this, or pay the consequences.

Jacob Leyva
Jacob Leyva

I doubt it will be different to how the PS3 handled used games.

sneakthief81
sneakthief81

To believe game developers would let one console do one thing, and the other console do another thing was just wishful thinking on my part..but..i guess i gotta stop being delusional and just say "fcuk it"..looks like PS4 is gonna rub nuts with MS, and do like they do..new consoles are gonna bite ass :(

SiLenTWarrior29
SiLenTWarrior29

I guess this is just the Times we live in all types of media can be played in the palm of your hand or through your console so.. expect things to get complicated and as the economy isn't getting any better expect payment of some sort. Unless someone can make a change and go against the grain but it ain't that simple.. nothing is nowadays. Sometimes you can only go with the best choices you got.. and I'm still sticking with Sony

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

@XND Funny part?  There isn't that much of a used music or movie industry, simply because the margins aren't there.  You're not making much off something that was $13-$25 new.

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

@XND You oughta get a Wii U anyway, it's a pretty good system.

Busta
Busta

@Shango4  from the same editor?  Why was this article even considered.?  

A president vs some dude .  One gives a logical reason.  The other speculation based on what others are doing.  

I'm not saying, sony can't flip flop.  But this isn't the article or guy to bring up that "debate".

Yulaw2000
Yulaw2000

@Jrizzle86

The thing is that Steam has had DRM for years but the Publishers didn't stop making console games. Besides, if Sony says no, what are Publishers going to do: only make games for XO and PC?

Nintendo aren’t doing this and the publishers want to make their games on as many systems as possible to make more profit.

If Sony comes out and says no to DRM(and have a good launch line up) they will most likely out sell Microsoft and then the Publishers will have little choice but to support it if they want to make as much money as last generation.

GirlgamerJen
GirlgamerJen

@Jrizzle86  i agree with you, we all knew this would happen eventually, and like i told my boyfriend's friends, that developers do not make money off of used games anyhow, so its kinda unfair to them. anyway i am still going to support one of the consoles

puukusa
puukusa

@Sevenstorms Dear Xbox fanboy,

I don't think Sony will charge for online gaming. But I do understand why you say so - your Xbox feelings are hurt.

XND
XND

@YukoAsho @XND I just ordered one .....thanks!!!

Subterfuge71
Subterfuge71

@GirlgamerJen @Jrizzle86  Why should a game be any different from any other product you own, that can be sold on to someone else? Copyright law needs changed to bring it into line with the modern world.

jayjay444
jayjay444

@Axile11 @Sevenstorms Sorry for putting it bluntly, but this guy is right, it's about time "those sneaky Japs grew a pair of balls and actually announced their console". Honestly at least Microsoft had the balls to properly announce theirs, so far i'm going with Xbox over the PS4. By the looks of things Sony are crapping them self's, fuck Sony, I was going to get the PS4 over the Xbox one but u PS4 fanboys have put me off the PS4, fuck putting up with all u winy brats again on the PSN, u guys are the reason I switch back to the 360 and your pushing me away from the PS4, thanks for showing me ahead of time this time fanboys so I don't waste my money. :D

Sevenstorms
Sevenstorms

@Axile11 @Sevenstorms I am NOT a racist at all. I am white and married to a black/native woman. Both my kids are mixed. One child is black/white/native and my other child is white/Cambodian

SiLenTWarrior29
SiLenTWarrior29

maybe you should choose your words wisely and not mention a race the way you did then maybe people won't get the wrong idea

Axile11
Axile11

@Sevenstorms @Axile11 Oh okay just the whole sneaky jap thing was a bit concerning thought you were a WW2 vet