PS3 tuning into digital TV?

Sony has revealed that it hopes to give the console TiVo-esque PVR functionality in 2008.

Unlike other consoles, the PlayStation 3 is "future-proofed," Sony New Zealand executive Warwick Light has boasted to The Press.

Sony Computer Entertainment New Zealand's head of marketing told the newspaper that the company had many different plans to make sure that the machine lasted well into the next generation.

Light made digs at both Nintendo and Microsoft, saying of the former that it had freely admitted the Wii was not a next-generation machine, and of the latter that, "look at the tangible differences between processing power and scope for scalability between the PS3 and the Xbox 360, it is clear that the PS3 is designed to last until the next generation...DVD is current generation. Why would you support current generation?"

The executive also revealed that Sony aims to turn the PS3 into a personal video recorder. "We're also hoping next year--about the same time that Freeview launches its terrestrial broadcasting service [in New Zealand, expected to be in March]--to release a digital tuner for the PS3, turning it into a programmable TV recorder," said Light. He did not say if the functionality would come via a hardware add-on or update to the PS3's firmware.

Freeview is a digital terrestrial television provider based in the UK, which allows owners of a set-top box connected to their TV or a Freeview-enabled television to access a variety of extra channels and digital radio stations for no monthly fee.

A PS3 with PVR functionality would mark Sony's second attempt to give a console TiVo-esque functions. In 2004, the company released a PVR-equipped version of the PlayStation 2, the PSX, in Japan to dismal sales. It was discontinued in early 2005.

Though Nintendo has repeatedly said the Wii won't have any nongame video playback functionality, Microsoft is already competing against Sony in the sector. Currently, Xbox Live Marketplace offers a variety of TV shows for purchase and films for rent, and will purportedly be getting IPTV functionality in the future.

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senjutsu
senjutsu

cool! :D I was wondering if I should buy a TiVo , I suppose the answer is no then. :D

NaturalBornGamR
NaturalBornGamR

"WOW!!! now it can do just about everything but play games." bwahahaa so true!

lovea218
lovea218

Now I don't have to get Tivo

Albamax
Albamax

--Yuck_too-- "True and if "in a few years" is 4+ years we'll all be on the next-next gen systems and none of these conversations will be worth squat." ----------- What are you talking about? Everything that is next-gen from this gen is all stuff that is totally only thoughts on the drawing board. Sure they have the thing that is a desktop and a computer and is touch activated. Except it will only be in the largest offices for a very a long time before it could ever be released to us, and the demo used only pictures! It's not even done! Next-gen from this gen is a very, very long way off. And besides, Blu-Ray hasn't even been available for all that long and Casino Royale Blu-Ray already made 1% of the sales of DVDs? DVDs, which have been out for such a long time with so many ways to own a way to play them that almost everyone has one?? I'm impressed. I'm not on the side of PS3, I'm just promoting the industry on all fronts, and when someone shares inaccuracy, I have to step in.

wizardps2
wizardps2

Hmm lets wait and see if comes to north america and then we can talk!! PS3 rules!!

qiwihead
qiwihead

The big difference between this gen and last in terms of the disk format is that neither Blu-Ray nor HD-DVD will ever be as big as DVD is now. This is because the market back then was between two formats, VHS and DVD. The market now is hugely fragmented and moving inexorably toward some form of a download or on-demand market. I don't fault Sony for trying to get revenge for Beta's dismal defeat at the hands of VHS, nor for cashing in on all the licensing fees they'll get if Blu-ray catches on, nor for correctly thinking that the increased capacity of Blu-ray will come in handy for next-gen games. But that doesn't change the fact that Blu-ray will never become "the next DVD" in terms of sales because the market has irrevocably changed and is moving away from disk media, at least for movies. So this move to offering some form of IPTV on the PS3 is very wise and will extend the life of the PS3 even further.

Melchia3113
Melchia3113

Yuck_too ok i'll add them, to both systems. because you need it for both systems to get an equal amount of features out of both. Which was my original argument.

SupremeNITEHAWK
SupremeNITEHAWK

Albamax that was a great post, and I think you made the greatest point on this forum.

Yuck_Too
Yuck_Too

--Bug420 -- "Comparing current DVD and Blu-ray sales does not mean mean anything about what they will be like in a few years. " ~~~~~~~~~ True and if "in a few years" is 4+ years we'll all be on the next-next gen systems and none of these conversations will be worth squat.

Tzap
Tzap

Sorry Sony....... my CABLE BOX was built for this one. Why provide something that most homes already have?

Albamax
Albamax

yeah, please, nobody argue with the advanced super nintendo thing that edog said. I'm not saying anything about his point, I'm saying that Playstation was the next nintendo, but then the company released super nintendo instead and didn't even tell the playstation department until it was being released. It really sucked for the playstation department. It was kind of a crappy move.

Melchia3113
Melchia3113

I agree with Firebird23, albamax and Lach0212. Excellent posts guys. and I apologize if I came off as a fanboy. it certenatly wasn't my intent. Fourms imo are a place to exchange ideas and diffrent points of view. and if you don't truley listen to what others have to say, (Well though out people that actually make valid points) you will get nothing but frustration out of the experience.

EDOG
EDOG

Look I have a Wii! but people when is all this fanboy crap going to come to a end! anyways Sony could never buy off Nintendo or Microsoft and everyone should thank Nintendo from the start, cause they are the pioneers of all of this gaming at home etc right now! Nintendo is a billion dollar company and Microsoft is bill gates and Sony is a electronics company etc so for those who dont know how Playstation came to be youll be shock that you are just playing an advance Super Nintendo! if you dont believe me then ill tell you that Controller thats on any playstation or xbox look at the 4 button layout or just do some research, but appreciate what you have and get a life!

Bug420
Bug420

Yuck_Too: "--Bug420-- "do you really think you're going to be using regular DVDs in a few years? " ~~~~~~~~~~ DVD for movies is not going anywhere. Sony's own sales numbers for Casino Royal prove that. Casino Royal is the #1 selling Blu-ray movie and in the 1st month of release sold over 30,000 copies. However sales for Casino Royal on DVD for the same month totaled 3.6 million. It's not a war...it's a slaughter...DVD is #1 just like the PS2. Why support current gen? Cause it's King...unfortunately Sony doesn't get royalties for DVD's, if they did we'd not be having this conversation." _________ Wow, way to totally miss the point. Comparing current DVD and Blu-ray sales does not mean anything about what they will be like in a few years.

bloodyrooster
bloodyrooster

Yay! Another bs article about how the PS3 is the future.

Yuck_Too
Yuck_Too

--Melchia3113 -- Well don't forget to add in the HDTV and high speed internet access for the PS3 while you're at it. If you don't have both of those you have no reason to get a PS3. So many people don't seem understand the value of the Core 360. If you do not have high speed internet, and / or do not have a HDTV, but you want a good gaming console, why spend extra on features you simply do not need and will not use. It's a matter of choice...

Boat3600
Boat3600

OMG, Albamax, that was beautiful...

Unassigned
Unassigned

As long as this is an Add-on and not a Built-in I'll be happy. If they're going to build it in (and charge me for it) I won't be happy since I already have a DVR which has way more space than the PS3.

cuneofamily
cuneofamily

I have a PSWii60 right now, and while the 360 has more games then the PS3, that's cuz it's older. And I love all my systems (almost) equally. @People saying PS3 doesn't have enough games, look at the wii to complain. The only game I have on wii is Wii Sports, lol.

ericblue21
ericblue21

@ StonyShred420 from what you saying, I take that you don't know much about the PS3 system. Do you know that you can upgrade your hard drive? or use an external hard drive. Myself I have a 120gb now, if I needed to I can always upgrade it to a bigger one. You said it yourself, only SOME ppl have the DVR not everyone, maybe you don't need one but some do, I'd love to have one so I can watch the show or sports after coming home from work. So why is this bad? and you say they shouldn't focus on their hardware, they not focus on hardware, they are improve it and add new ideas on it. You don't like it you can choose not to use it, they didn't point a gun to us and say you gotta have it. So I think you just hate them for what they do(or maybe you just hate SONY?). @ Phazevariance We are not talking about 360 are we? I haven't pay anything to SONY to upgrade my system, the only upgrade I had to pay was for my 120gb drive and I paid it to Bestbuy not Sony, and when you say to pay for every upgrade to expend to console, I think you mean 360. Because whether you choose to use it or not you have to pay fto get HD-drive, wireless adapter, and other things. Not to menton all the RED RING death and other problems that we had(at least I had) and what's wrong when ppl call it a Muti-media system? isn't 360 the samething? Last but not least you said ---->"why don't they get that sorted out before changing the concept of the machine?" How is that change the concept of machine? they just add new ability to it they didn't change a thing. Is there's one console that should be sorted out then it should be 360 not Wii or PS3. If you don't like SONY (or 360) why bother to read the article that's about them? and talk how bad the system is when you don't even own one? that just really silly.

firebird23
firebird23

Why is it that when Sony adds a new functionality to the PS3 it's stupid, pointless etc. and when Microsoft adds something (and they have an IPTV program in the works as well) it's a freaking god-send? Sometime I just don't get you people. For those of you saying the PS3 has no good games coming out, you have your heads up your collective ass. Many people have listed the great lineup of games that are being released this fall and early '08. Not to mention the proverbial vault of IP's they have in their first party repituor. Don't get me wrong, I don't love everything Sony. They had a horrible time leading up to and a few months following the launch of their new hardware. But as they've been working to fix many of the problems people have been complaining about, you find more reasons to complain. It's almost as if your hobby isn't gaming, it's coming on game websites to bash Sony and anyone who enjoys their products. *Sigh* I'm probably wasting my energy trying to talk reason into people on the internet. I guess I'll just go back and enjoy the great games and features all three of the new systems offer while you argue like 5th graders.

Genexi2
Genexi2

They're going to have to release a half-terabyte drive if they were to make me start using the setup, 120gb ain't enough for my TV recording needs, especially if it's at a decent quality, more-so if I'm viewing HD channels.

Albamax
Albamax

I have more to add onto what icekoph said. First of all, Sony is not necessarily being arrogant so much as displaying their confidence against numerous attacks (i.e. like 80 on this page ALONE) and reassuring their loyal fans. It is the business world. He is not speaking arrogantly, he is speaking like a businessman. He is talking about the positives of his product and its security. However, this is in fact only my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But let me give a history lesson. Let me take you to the days of Dreamcast. PS2 was being criticized. People said it was too expensive, people said they don't want a DVD player, people said Sony is stupid, people said a lot of things. Whether you believe me or not, it happened. People ALSO said it was too much of a risk for Sony to put DVD as the disc, and that it will be buggy and fail. Yet, what happened? It was very successful. PS2 and PSX had so many games. They target ALL of the cults, and the mainstream. If they were stupid, they would not be in business anymore. Read any reviews you want to, God of War 2 pushed the PS2 further than they had gone before. I got my PS2 for my 8th grade graduation, and now I'm a junior in college. For them to STILL be pushing the limits of the system through the ENTIRE generation, all the way up to the dawn of the next generation, well that's an investment by Sony. It paid off last time, and it will pay off this time. Again, I don't care whether or not I'm believed (which I won't be, raging people just hate more when they're told they're wrong), because time will tell that history will repeat itself. What gripes me is all the griping people do. I'm not pushing the PS3, I don't even HAVE one. Personally, I don't feel there's a strong reason for me to even GET one at the moment, so I'm waiting. I have a 360, and I absolutely love it, I think it's a great system. I can't wait for it to truly and fully become what they marketed it as, a central piece to complete entertainment system. It's already mostly there, but there's so much more they can do, and they probably will. The Wii, this is my next purchase. Nintendo has always promoted non-conventional thinking, or "thinking outside of the box." Anyone who isn't a drone will appreciate that. What we have is a golden age. Three different HUGE corporations, with three very different marketing strategies, and three different consoles. Don't tell me that the only thing different about a PS3 is the Blu-Ray, because is something that is VERY different. Stop hating people. Take advantage of what we're lucky to have, and live it up.

edhc44
edhc44

@ Boat3600 First off, Sony is kicking ass? When? They are just making a massive sell-off in order to make room for the new model. And people are not bashing the PS3 because Sony was the leader for the last 10 years, we are bashing it because it is the result of a lot of bad decisions the company took after being the leader after 10 years got to their heads. But you got one thing right. I'll stop wasting my time here and go play some Gears of War.

Lach0121
Lach0121

lol oh man fanboys on both sides are really blowing their horns. look if you have a ps3 play it love it. if you have a 360 play it love it. if you are the ones that have both, welcome to true next gen gamming and let the others miss out. thanks

whitey3221
whitey3221

Man do I love sony fanboys, I have a 360 and ps3 so I'm not biased in any way except that I do have to say the ps3 controller sucks for football games. Go play NCAA 08 and you'll know what I'm talking about. Besides that though I see a bright future for the ps3...if they can keep some exclusive titles. As I started out to say though sony fanboys need to stop complaining about people bashing the ps3, because they were the first ones to jump in and tell everybody that the ps2 was way better than anything else...for the exact same reasons all the people are saying the 360 is better now...third party support and more games. I just find it funny that a few months ago that was the argument sony fanboys were using against the xbox and now their complaining that xbox fans are using the same argument.

sakura_Ex
sakura_Ex

I bet Yuck_Too will be on here until he is 60 and still complaining about Sony made products

DbleBassDrummer
DbleBassDrummer

If someone is on the fence between a 360 and a PS3, I doubt TiVo would be a decision maker for someone looking for a GAMING system. And that was a nice way of saying that Sony needs to focus on their game library. (And hey, that sounded sort of nice, too.)

Warfust
Warfust

Wow, I never thought that Sony would be so blunt in saying that their console needs far more than games to be successful. Still too expensive for a Tivo though.

Boat3600
Boat3600

Thank you 03207771. Finally someone with brains on this site.

zex20913
zex20913

Bulletproof=impervious to bullets. Fireproof=impervious to fire. Therefore, future proof=impervious to the future. They're not even present proof. Future proof can happen if Sony buys out MS and Nintendo. And any other potential startup company in the video game market. Otherwise...

UltraZero
UltraZero

You know, if this becomes successful, I'm gonna laugh at those scientists who thought game machines are no good and a threat and are using it themselves.

03207771
03207771

Yeah man, thats what I'm talking about!! No need for HDD DVD now. I don't understand the comments that the PS3 has no games either. Resistance, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden, and in the future Lair, Heavenly Sword, Folklore, Haze, MGS4 etc etc. Yeah sure 360 has alot more games but thats been out for an extra year. Anyway I like 360 and PS3, these systems have proper games unlike the Wii.

Boat3600
Boat3600

Wow, people have really gotten to be retarded ever since Sony started kicking a**. It's always been that the system costs too much, or that it doesn't have enough games, or random stuff like that. People need to stop busting on the PS3 and just appreciate what they have- 360 or Wii. I'm tired of seeing a news report of Sony's sales going up only to see comments of people saying "So what? Wii has them beat 5:1." Frankly, I don't care; everyone knows all the systems are good no matter what you pay, so people need to stop bashing the systems and go play w/e system they bought and be happy. As long as I'm happy with my PS3 and someone is happy with their Wii or 360, then everything is ok. Just please stop the Sony bashing; it started right after the PS3 was launched all cause Sony was majorly beating everyone the last 10 years, so people need to stop bashing Sony, be happy with what they have, and just stop all the hating.

Melchia3113
Melchia3113

@ Phazevariance 360 Elite=$480 WiFi adaptor=$100 Hd-DVD=$180 Total=$760 US Not to mention MS nickel and diming you for online/downloads (but hey, they're in it to make money.) PS3=$500 120 GB HDD=$70 Total=$570 US And that is not including tax rounding up to the nearest dollar. (Xbox pricing taken from Xbox website. PS3 from PS3 website except the HDD which came from newegg) sure with the xbox you don't have to buy the extras. but if you do, where is the value? you have to pay almost $200 more to get everything out of an XBOX that ps3 can do out of the box. and I quote you "Why pay ALL that extra $ for a console that didn't do anything mroe than it's rival and then pay more for extra stuff on top of that?" that statement is a$$ backwards. Or were you stating that about the XBOX? Because then it would actually make sence. As far as PVR i really think Xbox would charge you for that. (but why would they even give it to you? they would loose money on downloads. Unless they adjust their stratagey). But I've been wrong before, I could be wrong again. besides PVR won't replace rental stores for a while. Given that, in major metropolitan areas, there will be pleanty of people near or below the poverty line that will still rent from video stores. Because they can't afford a PVR. Let's take a look at the big picture.

robertd1138
robertd1138

So since this device would need to have its own software, would it connect to a USB port on the PS3?

edhc44
edhc44

@LordelX Because they have their heads stuck up their asses, that's why... And you'd think they'd realised by now they DON'T have Midas touch

nickythenewt21
nickythenewt21

I thought the 360 was compatible with Windows Media Center. You know, that TiVo thing from Microsoft that's free (excluding buying the actual Media center)? But ROFL at "future-proofed"! Who says "future-proofed"? I could understand them saying "The PS3 is the Future!" but "future-proofed"? That's just lame.

LordelX
LordelX

The PSX failed. Why would Sony try again, from a less successful standpoint?

fatafreak
fatafreak

yes it is PSP-topher (no sarcasm) :)

bvofan
bvofan

WOW!!! now it can do just about everything but play games.

DarqFlare
DarqFlare

dli2k3 -- Think about what you say before you say it: "Well stop complaining because you cannot afford something, get a better job instead." I have a good job myself, and the high price tag for the PS3 is keeping me from buying it. Not because I have no money, but because I think it's too expensive for what it is. The Blu-Ray functionality is nice, but I don't care about it; thus the price is too high. It's not a good idea to insult everybody saying things like "get a better job" to afford something. Anyway... The current generation of DVDs isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are still duking it out and regular DVDs outsell those two combined more than 10:1. It seems to me that the 360 will likely live out this generation just fine, because by the time a next-gen DVD format starts to become a contender, the video game industry will likely have a new generation of consoles anyway.

BoobyUnger
BoobyUnger

stupid guy XD shouldnt talk down to people. PS3 is great sure. same with the other systems and im sure ps3 will be the future. and i dont know why people whine about the price because ur tv probably cost twice or three times more than the ps3. Tv takes less effort to build too.

whyamisogood716
whyamisogood716

WHY DOES SONY TRY AND GIVE YOU EVERYTHING ELSE BUT GAMING I DONT GET IT.

edhc44
edhc44

I know people will bash me for this, but future-proofed? WTF? What good it is getting ready for the future if you get your ass handed to you day after day after day in the present? Yeah, they have a lot of money, and let's say everything they're "prepared" for becomes standard in say, three years. Is it really worth afforting years of loss just to make a profit then? Not to mention that by then, MS, Nintendo and why not, some other company will be planning their new consoles... And they mostly likely will have the same "futuristic features" the PS3 has now, but they will have it in a time when all that stuff actually matters. Then finally, when a "Xbox 1080" and a "Evolution" or whatever they call them are out, 8 cell processors with a 5 year-old technology won't be so hot either. Not to mention that Wii-like gameplay might actually replace nowaday's traditional gameplay and Sony will be stuck with their Sixaxis (although personally I'd rather have a in-between the Sixaxis and the Wii-mote rather than one or the other). Anyway, I'm not saying that this is what will happen nor that this is what I'd like to happen... Actually, given Sony current arrongance, it is kinda what I wanted to happen... Anyway, I'm just pointing out a scenario that the massive ego the guys at Sony have is blinding them to see as an actual possibility.