PS3 online, Sixaxis shown off at Sony Gamers' Day

[UPDATED] Executives demonstrate the next-gen console's controller and online capabilities--including store and downloads; multimedia functions and game demos dominate San Francisco presentation.

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SAN FRANCISCO--With less than a month to go until the North American PlayStation 3 launch, Sony is holding a Gamers' Day. Today's event will show off the system to the assembled gaming press--and perhaps answer a few final questions about the system. The PlayStation Network Platform, the PS3's answer to Xbox Live, seems to be the biggest question mark, particularly its downloadable content, online store, and suite of features for online play.

Sony chose Dog Patch Studios to host the event on an unexpectedly warm October afternoon for the Bay Area. With any luck, it will be here, south of downtown in a neighborhood where residential homes jut up against industrial buildings, that Sony chooses to detail the remainder of its launch strategy.

1:30 p.m.: Half an hour after early attendees started lining up outside the building, Sony lets them start filing in. A stage at the front of the room features a large screen running a PS3 promotional video--all shots of the system and controller. Before long, a couple hundred members of the press have crowded the room and the din of chatter threatens to drown out the house music.

1:52: A voice asks everyone to take their seats. The show will begin in five minutes. Apparently their clock is ahead.

1:55: Banks of speakers flank the side of the stage, with TV displays on either side showing the same footage as the big screen. "Two minutes," the voice says.

1:57 p.m.: The music fades and chatter soon follows. SCEA president Kaz Hirai and fellow Sony execs take their seats in the front row. The voice says, "During this Sony event, video and still photography is not allowed. Thank you very much."

1:59 p.m.: Another voice says "Can I get an encore? Do you want more?" The music kicks up loud again and a montage of gameplay footage is shown as the lights dim. If you can name a PS3 title, it's probably in here. All kinds of games from all publishers are shown. The date "11/17" is shown, and Kaz Hirai is introduced.

2:00 p.m.: Kaz takes the stage. Apparently starting the show on time caught the techies by surprise; it takes a second to turn the microphone on.

2:01 p.m.: Kaz, Jack Tretton, and Phil Harrison will take us through what comes in the box, launch titles, peripherals, the PlayStation Network, and the PlayStation Store, including downloadable content.

2:02 p.m.: They're going to try and show us as much as possible in live demos during this session. After the presentation, we'll be able to get our hands on the games, so check back later for GameSpot's hands-on coverage of all the titles.

2:03 p.m.: Hirai teases a surprise guest providing entertainment at the night's event.

2:04 p.m.: Hirai says the final boxed product is rolling off the assembly lines as we speak. Then he shows the retail packaging. He says they will have 22 launch-window titles, including games like FEAR, Call of Duty 3, Full Auto 2, Genji: Days of the Blade, NBA Live 07, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7, Rainbow Six Vegas, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Untold Legends, and Riiidge Racer 7. (Yes, he said "Riiidge.")

2:05 p.m.: He talks about specific games, including Genji and NBA 07, which he touts by saying "there is no more realistic NBA action than NBA 07." Now he's turning to Resistance: Fall of Man. He calls it "the most robust lineup of any console launch for titles." And it's another montage.

2:11 p.m.: The video ends with the Play Beyond slogan and a round of applause from the crowd. Kaz talks about going deeper into what we'll find on launch day and introduces Jack Tretton.

2:12 p.m.: Tretton welcomes everyone to the event and says Sony is very excited for the big launch date. Now he's going to tell us what we'll find at retail on November 17. We hope he says "a system." Nope. He says "a crowd." He recaps the two different PS3 packages and reiterates the previously announced US prices.

2:13 p.m.: He mentions the array of movie studios and tech companies supporting the Blu-ray format. He emphasizes that it does play DVD, CD, and Blu-ray video, so they're going to pack the Blu-ray edition of Talladega Nights in the first 500,000 PS3 systems.

2:14 p.m.: The movie doesn't hit retail until December. Now he's showing us a trailer of Talladega Nights. Who doesn't love John C. Reilly?

2:16 p.m.: Props to whoever decided to put Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Simple Kind of Man" in the trailer.

2:17 p.m.: Tretton says they worked closely with Sony Pictures to make the promotion happen and says "there can only be one number one because two number ones would be 11, and we don't want that." I think someone snickered. That might have been a sneeze, though.

2:18 p.m.: Tretton brings up the Sixaxis controller, emphasizing that it doesn't require any outside sensors, and says we'll see some wonderful uses for it in the very near future. Also in the box is an AC cord (no brick), a USB minicable, an Ethernet cable, and a multi-AV cable with composite connector.

2:19 p.m.: First-party software will debut at $59.99 for Genji, Resistence, and NBA 07. The controller will be $49.99. Memory card adaptors will be $14.99, while the Blu-ray remote (in December) will be $24.99.

2:20 p.m.: Now it's time to talk demo kiosks. Sony will send out 15,000 kiosks that will debut October 26. They will feature Sony Bravia HD monitors. "Universally, PS products will have the lead-in position. They will have dominant shelf space," he says. He also says the kiosks will be networked so they can stream game demos, and they'll no longer be dependent on someone carrying a disc into the store and loading it up.

2:23 p.m.: Harrison says the team is in the home stretch and stresses how proud Sony is of what they're going to show us today. He introduces Insomniac Games' Ted Price to the stage to talk about Resistance and give a live demo.

2:24 p.m.: Price is showing Nottingham, England, after the alien invasion. He demonstrates some of the weapons, like the standard assault rifle, the bullseye (tag an enemy and then fire tracing bullets at him), or a temporary shield.

2:25 p.m.: Now he brings out the lark, a rocket launcher that lets him pause a rocket in midair and then control its speed with the analog stick or have it splinter into a barrage of tinier missiles.

2:26 p.m.: He pauses the game and moves the camera around the frozen world in a debug mode. He fires a hedgehog, a spiky bomb that jumps into the air and shatters into shrapnel.

2:27 p.m.: The other thing he wants to mention is the game's online mode. He talks about the 40-player online mode, a first for a console launch title, a lobby with community features including buddy lists, clans, and stats. He asks everyone to check out the PS3 online with Resistence at launch and turns it back over to Phil Harrison.

2:28 p.m.: Harrison brings up Blu-ray again, talking about the ratio of disc-based storage to the system's main memory. He mentions that historically a balanced system has about 100:1. Hey, what a coincidence! That happens to be the PS3's ratio!

2:29 p.m.: Now Harrison is talking us through a live demo of Genji. The main samurai slaughters enemy after enemy before switching out for a guy with a gigantic pole, Shizuka, and then back to the original samurai.

2:31 p.m.: Harrison ends the live demo and brings up high definition. He mentions that NBA Shootout was the first fully polygonal five-on-five sports game on the PlayStation and compares it to NBA 07 being the first sports game in 1080p resolution.

2:33 p.m.: He talks about the detail in the player faces and has the guy giving the live demo go into the instant-replay mode to show off the sweat on players in the middle of gameplay. "I'm told that's a cool thing," Harrison says.

2:34 p.m.: Now Harrison is talking about the Sixaxis controller and welcomes the founder of Factor 5 to demo Lair.

2:36 p.m.: It starts off with a soldier walking up to a dragon. The player uses the controller's motion sensitivity to control the camera and then jumps on the dragon. Once on the dragon, he uses the motion sensitivity to control it. He says it's the ideal way to implement flight control and compares it to holding the dragon's reins. By jerking the controller to one side, the dragon moves evasively in that direction.

2:37 p.m.: The dragon lands and starts wandering through a field of enemy archers, spilling them on one side before taking off again.

2:38 p.m.: Now he enters into combat with a dark dragon. Upon closing the distance, the dragons enter into melee combat, the enemy rider is dismounted, the protagonist drives his weapon into the dark dragon's head, and jumps back to his own winged terror.

2:40 p.m.: That ends the demo, and Harrison is now talking about the PS3 features again. He says it can be turned on from the controller and intros the launch sequence. A smokelike wisp on a black background lies behind a few icons that players will use to log in their profiles. He hints at the parental-control features and then dives into the PS3's PlayStation Portable-like cross-media bar, which will also be used in Sony TVs.

2:42 p.m.: He says it's a very intuitive, simple setup (the settings menu is very similar to the PSP's), then moves onto the photo menu. He shows a high-res photo and says players that do have high-res displays will never want to show their friends photos any other way once they've done this. Instead of just scrolling through the pictures, he shows the photo album, which basically creates a 3D representation of all the user's photos spread out on a blank white table.

2:44 p.m.: Harrison moves over to the music bar, where players can manage their MP3s. He plays a Beyonce/Jay-Z song for a few seconds to show off the music visualizer and then moves on quickly to the video icon. All the videos on the system are being previewed in real time as thumbnails on the cross-media bar.

2:46 p.m.: He shows off the Spider-Man 3 teaser trailer and then the trailer for the new James Bond movie Casino Royale, which launches the same day as the PS3.

2:46 p.m.: Harrison continues to play up the PS3's multimedia features. He talks about how easy and quick it is to jump in and out of videos and then moves onto the Network Functionality part of the cross-media bar and a friends list. He has a bunch of friends with some familiar gamer pictures next to them, including God of War's Kratos and Sly Cooper. The keyboard interface to send messages uses predictive text, but you can hook up a USB keyboard, as well.

2:47 p.m.: In the Network Functionality part of the media bar, there's an Internet browser. Harrison says it is fully functioning and free out of the box. He opens up a YouTube page with a quick recap of Sony's Electronic Entertainment Expo conference. "Riidge Racer!"

2:49 p.m.: "When we talk about PS3 being not just an entertainment platform but a computer, as well, this is what we're talking about," says Harrison. Now he's talking about Remote Play, the intersection of a PSP and the PS3. He's running the PS3 cross-media bar on the PSP and loads up the Casino Royale trailer where it left off.

2:51 p.m.: Harrison then goes to the PlayStation Store icon on the Network section of the cross-media bar. He says they turned to Sony Online Entertainment to help out with their approach to the PlayStation Store and network service, and he then introduces SOE president John Smedley.

2:53 p.m.: Smedley takes the Sixaxis from Harrison and begins the demo. The PlayStation Store hub has a blue background with headers for Featured Items, Demos, Downloadable Games, and View All. It also has a featured graphic (this one for Resistance) and a couple sidebars with the top downloads and what's new listed.

2:55 p.m.: He says the image is just the out-of-game experience. Developers will be able to build the store directly into their games. There are a number of icons in the featured items tab, including Lemmings for the PS3. On the demos list, there is Blast Factor, Cash Carnage Chaos icons, and the Downloadable Games tab has original PlayStation games listed like Jet Moto, Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, and MediEvil.

2:57 p.m.: To demonstrate, Smedley clicks on the Blast Factor icon, which takes him to another page with the price ($.01 in the demo) and the ESRB rating. He adds it to his shopping cart. That takes him to a cart-viewing page that lists his Wallet amount. The Wallet has $76.38 in it, so it looks like it'll be done in dollars instead of Sony Points or anything like that. Smedley says parents will be able to set an online allowance.

2:59 p.m.: He confirms the purchase, and Harrison interrupts to emphasize that this is a live demo that will work exactly like this at our own homes. If you buy it on one PS3, you can go download it on up to five more PS3s.

3:00 p.m.: Harrison says they haven't priced everything just yet, but they expect downloadable games to be $14.99 and under, with very low pricing for game components. Smedley shows off the View All tab, which breaks the content down into categories like demos, game content, standard-definition trailers, high-definition trailers, and so on.

3:01 p.m.: "We think that the PlayStation Store is the next generation of online gaming," Smedley says and turns it back over to Harrison. It doesn't appear that most demos or trailers will need to be bought. The ones shown had "Free" listed next to them.

3:02 p.m.: Now Harrison introduces a live demo of MotorStorm and mentions that gamers will be able to download a demo of the game on day one.

3:03 p.m.: The demo shows a red truck racing along treacherous canyon roads as the terrain blurs by. The demo's player takes the truck off a cliff where it falls for a few seconds before resetting on the track and then completely wrecks it to show off the car blowing up and flipping before the demo ends.

3:05 p.m.: Harrison introduces Blast Factor, noting that it was developed by just five people. He mentions it will have full multiplayer online rankings and will support the Sixaxis motion-sensing abilities. He says it will have adaptive difficulty levels. Jolting the controller to one side will tilt the playfield and affect the enemies on it. Harrison mentions that this will be key to strategies on later levels.

3:07 p.m.: Back to the cross-media bar again, Harrison introduces God of War director David Jaffe to show off what he's been working on for the last few months. Jaffe takes the stage and says the most exciting thing about the system for him is Sony's support for original content and downloadable games on the PlayStation Store. He says it's the most exciting part of gaming today for his studio.

3:08 p.m.: It's Criminal Crackdown, and they're looking at a February release for the game. They're working with Incognito to make a game "that hearkens back to the old 16-bit era," giving the example of Bomberman. Gamers pick a variety of vehicles and play bounty hunters who have to chase after criminals and then take them back to a jail. Gamers get more points depending on which entrance of the jail they use. The front door is one point, the ramp that lets players jump their vehicles into the jail is two, and the twisting ramp up to the roof is three. Ramming enemy cars ejects criminals from them.

3:10 p.m.: Criminal Crackdown will have up to four-player split-screen running at 60 frames per second in 1080p, and Jaffe says they'll show a lot more in the coming months.

3:11 p.m.: Harrison says that's the whole PS3 experience. The games, the network functionality, the store, the downloadable games, the Web browser. He says Sony is proud to show it to everyone and asks people to enjoy the rest of the afternoon playing games, then hands it back to Kaz.

3:12 p.m.: Kaz says Sony has "an unparalled lineup of launch titles" and emphasizes that there are a lot more exciting titles after launch, like MotorStorm, Lair, Warhawk, and a few others.

3:13 p.m.: "We've been keeping our cards pretty close to the vest on the PlayStation Network," Kaz says, adding that it's "an incredibly robust offering" and it's only going to grow with revisions.

3:14 p.m.: Kaz thanks everyone for coming, gets a round of applause, and then leaves the stage as one last montage plays. The show is over. Once again, the PS3 Killzone shown at E3 2005 is MIA.

Thanks for reading and check out GameSpot's PlayStation 3 launch center for continuing coverage from the 2006 Sony Gamers' Day.

Discussion

1112 comments
lord-of-gamers
lord-of-gamers

lol deathblow3 stop smoking weed man.... all of the features in the PS3 will prepare MULTImedia (note multi as in many) users to play proper HD not like the HD DVD player that umm (cough) u have to pay for in the xbox360 and if ppl like you dont check - to have WIFI built in and blu ray and all that it puts the price up but well look u have to pay extra for that stuff for the 360 and i found that it comes to a higher price buying the same stuff for the 360 than if u go and buy a PS3! LONG LIVE SONY AND THE PLAYSTATION ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slimer_g
slimer_g

I just can't get enough of the play station consoles!!!

Wow100
Wow100

Very good in deed. The 360 was rushed and that was a strong blow. The wii is leaning more towards younger people with its childish games( some games are not so childish though). The ps3 will have alot of everything. So far it has quite alot of games ready to be released and it wasn't rushed. The price however is something a bit to worry about. Seeing as how only a certain number of ps3's will be released on time i think its better to wait a few months when prices drop.

aquinofgv
aquinofgv

"(Yes, he said "Riiidge.")" Priceless.

Jorwind
Jorwind

lol, deathblow3 u say u drive a bmw but dont want to pay for ps3 ($600 max) because it costs more than your bmw? u must have a crappy bmw. go trash your bmw. trade it for a red wagon or something. i will trade u a sock for it. since ur probably 2 young to understand, im saying i dont believe u. and that your an im matuer stupid idiot

MatthewShield
MatthewShield

Well I just read the last comment and I have one thing to say, are you under 5!!?? There are too many people who submit on any PS3(360/Wii ect) forum or comment box just to say how crap the console is even though they havn't even played it yet! Personally I have my eyes set on the PS3, although Wii's L.O.Z and 360's Gears'o'war are equally tempting. Oh and BTW "Mr Deathblow" how can you say that PS3 jumped the gun with its technologie when 360's launch was like a freakin hurricain, consoles exploding, heating up, the ebay scandle ect ect. Still quite curious about the PS3's online system.

deathblow3
deathblow3

really who cares the fact is if you want cheap next gen gaming. the xbox360 is pound for pound the better deal. i and many other people dont want pay more than there car note for a game system (i drive a bmw). sony added blue ray to add more content to the game so yes it will create better every thing (more room for info on the rom) but sony jumped the gun on the technology and it was not & is not cost effective to have blue ray in the ps3 and that is why your paying so much. what person is crazy enought to pay more than half a thousand dollars to play a video game. any one buying into this is the reason we are paying so much for the ps3 & any thing else that is over priced i.e (if you didnt buy xbox games 4 59.99 they wouldn't charge 59.99) they only charge what they can get. so every one buying the ps3 in store or 4 blown up prices on ebay thank you cause that means all the next counsols will all start @ 600 + next time

Gozel
Gozel

Ps3 is the better console of all, 360 overheat, and wii only have legend of zelda . im going to buy the PS3 and the Wii(just for zelda), im not going to waste my money in a 360, sorry that what i thinks so.

lukeisno1
lukeisno1

"For the people that says 360 graphically will be better...stop being ignorant and accept the truth. Compare Elder scrolls on 360 to the PS3 version. In an interview the creators even said that Elder Scrolls is going to look sharper on the PS3. Check out OPM it's a quote. And if you're still so ignorant as to not even want to listen to the ACTUAL CREATORs then there's no hope for you. Also check the difference between Fight Night on PS3 vs. 360 and like PSM said, if you can't tell the difference then I feel sad for you. They even added realistic muscle contraction to the PS3 version of Fight Night. And lastly compare Resistence to Call of Duty on the 360 infact compare Resistence to just about any game on the 360, it's graphically better than many games that have come out months (near a year) after 360's launch and it's a PS3 LAUNCH title." you can't compare games like that if ps3 has had oblivion in development for over a year now and has been released a year later, and if you compare resistance to Gears of War....

iaag784
iaag784

gogokun.....they compared consoles to porridge! Now come on, that's an insult to gaming.

lvlUNE3B
lvlUNE3B

it's still unbelieveable!

naruto767
naruto767

jj i have 2 psp 1ds and 2xbox 3ps2 so jj you are a **** ok

TICKandARTHUR
TICKandARTHUR

OMG PS3 is COMING OUR LIFES!!! everybody READY???!! START! RAHH!

Gentle_Stephen
Gentle_Stephen

I perfaire any next gen console and i dont take people comments in. saying that its sh1t or what ever nasty about the console is just a console and when it comes to games most game studios go for the graphics it may inpress others but what ever happend to the story lines? and games need to be on expert all the time because games are getting easy to clock and the price of the game is to deer.

slickrick1887
slickrick1887

JJ about the console wars thing i have 4 ps2s and so ur calling me poor.

gogokun
gogokun

Crazyguy 92-"God of War 2 (it will most likely be released on the PS3 and PS2" Don't you just hate it when people assume things they don't know?

gogokun
gogokun

"JJBaker12- Console wars are for those too poor to own all consoles" "nappan- I hate to sound like a snob, but JJ, you're 100% right" "thekey-(INSERT INCOHERENT BABBLINGS OF RICH-AS/S 7-YEAR OLD HERE) Thank you for stating the obvious, JJBaker, and thank you for glorifying it, nappan. And thank you for being a retard thekey. Console wars are exactly that. Do you think anyone would be calling the PS3 a hunk of crap if it was $400? Today's console wars are all about the best deal, not the console. Lets have a console war where the consoles are the same price, and it will be a fair fight. Take out of the equation the whole financial aspect of the war, and we will see which console is better by measuring the quality and accessability of the system and the greatness and frequency of the software. Of course, this will never happen, and I as well as others are forced to make their descision 75% on price. My preferences: I personally will probably always have a preference for Microsoft's system. I found a great submission in OXM that described the three consoles as bowls of porridge in Goldilocks. The PS3 is the hot one, with expensive pricing but an extremelly powerful processor. The Wii is the cold one; it is easy to swallow but is probably more shallow than the other two. The Xbox 360 is just right, with a fair price and hefty, great looking and playing titles and superb online features.

bushidoboi1
bushidoboi1

xxgundamboyxx "So much hate in this console war, espically the xbox fanboys bashing the PS3." yeah, all consoles have ther strengths and weaknesses. I like GC for it's control,PS2 for it's gameplay, and X-box for it's "X-box only games". I've been a sony die-hard but you don't see me pounding on the 360, I fact I think it's a pretty good system and it's really set a expectaion mark for the PS3.

thekey
thekey

nappan "JJBaker24 Console wars are for those who are too poor to own all consoles. " "I hate to sound like a snob, but JJ, you're 100% right." Listen I can buy 20 PS3 at launch if I were allowed to.(and if there availble at launch.) And still have money to buy all the launch titles for all 20 of those units. (you so called experts do the math.) Thats $38,000 dollors + tax I got that, beleive me or not. I don't give ____. Anyways I could but I'm not that mindless, I wouldn't even spend $600 for a peice of crap console, with new half _____ technology. (When stand alone Blu-ray players will be way better. So what they don't play games I would buy a VIDEO GAME COMSOLE for that.) I am by no means too poor for a PS3. I just don't want a PS3(right now) I might when there PS3 sales are slow and they drop the price because the competition is just straight crushing them. The same thing that is happening to the PSP is going to happen with the PS3. (It's not worth the $600 price tag even with the Blu-ray technology its just higher density DVDs anyway. And DVD9's can do long games in HD anyways so why would I want to spend $600 on a low end Blu-ray player that will die out in 6months to 3 years.) This isn't about system wars, I just don't want a PS3 right now.(Maybe not ever depending on what new games come out for it in the future. I don't want any Tekkens or some of these same lame franchises, I want NEW great games, like what the Wii and 360 offers.

nappan
nappan

"JJBaker24 Console wars are for those who are too poor to own all consoles. " I hate to sound like a snob, but JJ, you're 100% right.

sweet1234
sweet1234

I just thought of something in a way the xbox 360 could be more expensive thanks to the fact that if you want 2 have wireless internet then your paying around 100 and then the pro console your paying 500 and then if you want the hd-dvd drive then theres another 100 and then xbox live yet.... oh my

Rockynr1marsvin
Rockynr1marsvin

just look on the ''Metal gear solid 4'' its amazing graphics, everything is real time graphics. ps3 rulez!! and yeah xbox 360 suckz.. i shall buy ps3 at any price

JJBaker24
JJBaker24

Console wars are for those who are too poor to own all consoles.

ddt88
ddt88

The only reason current launch games will look better on the PS3 over Xbox 360 is because they have 6 - 12 months more development on the title. The true measure of the PS3 will only come when they release original second generation titles exclusive to PS3. Then will you only see how good or bad the PS3 really is. The argument for this versus that is a little redundant right now because most of the hard work was already done for the xbox360.

Conceptshado
Conceptshado

For the people that says 360 graphically will be better...stop being ignorant and accept the truth. Compare Elder scrolls on 360 to the PS3 version. In an interview the creators even said that Elder Scrolls is going to look sharper on the PS3. Check out OPM it's a quote. And if you're still so ignorant as to not even want to listen to the ACTUAL CREATORs then there's no hope for you. Also check the difference between Fight Night on PS3 vs. 360 and like PSM said, if you can't tell the difference then I feel sad for you. They even added realistic muscle contraction to the PS3 version of Fight Night. And lastly compare Resistence to Call of Duty on the 360 infact compare Resistence to just about any game on the 360, it's graphically better than many games that have come out months (near a year) after 360's launch and it's a PS3 LAUNCH title.

lfra61
lfra61

To crazyguy92 well say........... well done.......... well play..........

lfra61
lfra61

Hey, stop saying that you can get same performance of games of the PS3 with a cheap x-box 360, ´cause you won´t. I have the opportunity to play "NFS most wanted" in PS2 and x-box 360. Of course it looks better on the x-box, the designers of the games chance a lot of quality settings so they can run perfect on each console. I also play "black hawk down" on PS 2 and on a PC with a beautiful video card, and the BHD game on PS2 looks like an old Atari because of the PC performance. You will not get the same game performances with the 2 consoles. You will lose a lot of options and quality with the x-box360. If you don´t believe, just wait and compare...........

crazyguy92
crazyguy92

"hellspunk156 Alrite to some everything up..... all the consoles are all equal.... well maybe not wii so much but its motly based for children and people not really looking for a very in depth game just somthing to have fun with, but thats besides my point.... PS3 and Xbox360 both equal with many differences, Xbox still has Live that so many people are familiar with and love, PS3 will have a Live thingy but we all know.... nobody is going to use it.... everyone will say differently now but i can garentee no one will use it.... now PS3 will have games such as the FF's and MGS's and Call Of Duty 3 but we all know it will probably be better for 360 only because like I said before no one will use PS3 Online , Xbox360 will have Halo3, Fable2, Gears Of War, Call of Duty 3 (On Live), now yes Alot of games are going to be for both 360 and PS3 what it all comes down to is the online gaming witch is the buy's choice either play live or PS3 Online other than those differences they are equal, so pick one and stick with it because everyone has there own choices. and if you guys think PS3 is better because it has blu-ray disk your not a gamer.... because the blu-ray disks will not have any effect on the games you play, and for all of the movie goers out there blu-ray will never take over DVD it will be just like the mino disk and laser disk expensive and retarded. " Dude, i'm sorry, but ur COMPLETELY WRONG! I hate when people assume things they don't know. For example, you said that no one will use the PS3 online system-WHY??? Even with PS2's crappy online system, people used it. PS3's online function is much "more live" and also free to play games and other basic services. Games will NOT be better on the Xbox 360. Notice that a lot of surveys and companies are predicting a win for the PS3-what does that say to you? You're mentioning some good titles for the 360, but none for PS3. Let me help you out. Good games on the PS3 include:Resistence:fall of man, Heavenly Sword, God of War 2 will most likely be released on the PS3 and PS2, Call of Duty 3, Oblivion, which was supposed to be a 360 exclusive, Gran Turismo HD, and many more! Another thing you said is that the PS3 is not better because of Blu-Ray and I completely agree with you. However, it does enhance gameplay experience because of the additional space. Did you hear about the 360 being upgraded to 1080P?? Yeh, well it is, but guess what!! THEY HAVE NO SPACE FOR IT!! BECAUSE GAMES ARE ONLY ON DVD9. So that should tell you the advantage of Blu-Ray. Nice arguing with you!!

bloodwolf808
bloodwolf808

"I don't think a bugged up PS3 is value, and as far as power goes....it offers nothing the 360 can't match, CHECK AND MATE! Oh I almost forgot, hey Sony Nintendo called, they wan their Wii-motes back " Really Look at this... The RAM that sony is using. http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/XDR_RDRAM/index.htm Processor has 2 TFLOP's in performance Xbox 360 has 1. 50 gb of Media storage?? That would takd 5 xbox 360 discs. GPU's are similar.

evilyoda861
evilyoda861

If sony is so into getting online play to work right, then why not just get the 360, or the Wii? The 360 online is amazing, and pretty cheap. If you want to spend 600 bucks to get free online then I have to say you got problems. There will be a lot of ps3's, well maybe not a lot since there wont be a lot seen on shelves but I doubt we will see them sell very fast.

Lockheed
Lockheed

hellspunk156, so what you're saying is that Sony is going to fail right off the bat because no one will play PS3 games online? Granted X360 has a very reputable track record; however, the new online feature and technology like X360, is what will make the PS3 prosper and IMO dominate the competition. The online system of the PS2 wasn't too bad being that it was all free, but the new technology and innovative features, will breath new life into online gameplay, and I believe will take the lead in the console wars. You say that all consoles are equal, yet you say that it all comes down to online play and and that X360 is superior in that manor?.... seems a tad contradictory to me. But that aside, I don't believe that the past has anything to do with how these consoles thrive/fail, it's a new generation in the console war and the progression with both in technology and innovation is unparalleled. The jump from xbox to 360 and PS2 to PS3 is so far beyond what it was for each of their predecesors, it's like jumping from a comodore64 to today's Windows.

lfra61
lfra61

One last thing: if you get a xbox, you will probably have the honor of play a small experience of Metal gear, or the EA production games, but you will never get the experience of play the next generation of games-simulation ( one of the best: Winning Eleven ).

lfra61
lfra61

You guys don´t have the right to give a bad press to the PS3 just because you have envy of its power. These console worth its waiting and will replace the others. A facts is, that x 360 hasn´t improve nothing to even get closer to the PS3 characteristics. Also, the PS has a long and welth experience in the game consoles, and that cant only get with time. Evenmore, Japan is where most of the games ideas are create along with the electronic entertainment. The PS is transforming into a computer device replacing ( now ) a lot of things ( and probably a lot of game consoles ), just like the cellphones are replacing cameras, music players, usb memorys etc ...You are defending your country´s console ( xbox ), but the world´s console is pointing to the PS

hellspunk156
hellspunk156

Alrite to some everything up..... all the consoles are all equal.... well maybe not wii so much but its motly based for children and people not really looking for a very in depth game just somthing to have fun with, but thats besides my point.... PS3 and Xbox360 both equal with many differences, Xbox still has Live that so many people are familiar with and love, PS3 will have a Live thingy but we all know.... nobody is going to use it.... everyone will say differently now but i can garentee no one will use it.... now PS3 will have games such as the FF's and MGS's and Call Of Duty 3 but we all know it will probably be better for 360 only because like I said before no one will use PS3 Online , Xbox360 will have Halo3, Fable2, Gears Of War, Call of Duty 3 (On Live), now yes Alot of games are going to be for both 360 and PS3 what it all comes down to is the online gaming witch is the buy's choice either play live or PS3 Online other than those differences they are equal, so pick one and stick with it because everyone has there own choices. and if you guys think PS3 is better because it has blu-ray disk your not a gamer.... because the blu-ray disks will not have any effect on the games you play, and for all of the movie goers out there blu-ray will never take over DVD it will be just like the mino disk and laser disk expensive and retarded.

xxgundamboyxx
xxgundamboyxx

So much hate in this console war, espically the xbox fanboys bashing the PS3.

R3DN1N3
R3DN1N3

Rengoku2TSTH PS3 is not about price. Its about value and POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think a bugged up PS3 is value, and as far as power goes....it offers nothing the 360 can't match, CHECK AND MATE! Oh I almost forgot, hey Sony Nintendo called, they wan their Wii-motes back

inferno394
inferno394

that controller is 3 generations old, we need something new not a gimmick : /

Demon_Vergil
Demon_Vergil

Killzone is Dutch quality, so it's good :)

Rengoku2TSTH
Rengoku2TSTH

PS3 is not about price. Its about value and POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mc2k4
mc2k4

Killzone is going to blow everyone away in 2007.

RavXn
RavXn

who cares about the price im buying the ps3 anyway. then I can play 60 games I already own, many of them true classics. I don't hate Xbox 360, I enjoyed DOA4 and Perfect dark, hmmm thats two games I liked wheres the rest.... PS3 will offer MGS4, FFXIII, Killzone, Resistence:FoM, DMC4, Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 5. Many of these games wont be there at the realese but during the time I wait I can play Resistence:FoM and my 60 PS1/2 games. One more thing the motion detector thingie, I've played around with such games before I even knew the playstation 1 existed so basicly its OLD stuff. they've just added some spice to it especily Wii. I have a couple of special controllers for ps2 such as gloves and pistols, theyre fun at first but you get so exhuasted after only an hour using this things so I won't be buying a Wii and the PS3's detector feels like basic stuff, I won't be using this feature because I'm lazy and I dont like to move around while playing a game.

bryguyknowsall
bryguyknowsall

When i look at ps3 i see the saturn, these developers arent gonna know how to program for that thingand from that the games are not going to be that good, 1 way you have a systems thats medium holds an unessary amount of space. 2 . the price tag is way too much for me. POSITIVES 1. a massive 60 gig hdd with the $600 version 2. x axsis controller. 3 a famillar controller

PaddyDX
PaddyDX

"thekey you say " (15 of them are 360 ports with tilt.) " there also 15 game which are port from the PC to 360, i can name Call of Duty 2 and 3, F.E.A.R., Prey, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and much much more, so get your info right befor you talk !!" So? Still doesn't rule out the fact that 15 PS3 launch games are 360 ports with tilt, now does it? If you're worried about getting too much ports, get a Nintendo Wii. If you look at the launch line-up you will find that that about 70% of the games are not ports. And even the ports will be no where near exact ports.

KronikKilla
KronikKilla

Uh, yea, and 3 of those games you just mentioned are being ported to the PS3, your point being.... ?

orangestar
orangestar

thekey you say " (15 of them are 360 ports with tilt.) " there also 15 game which are port from the PC to 360, i can name Call of Duty 2 and 3, F.E.A.R., Prey, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and much much more, so get your info right befor you talk !!!

thekey
thekey

yeah Budbrowny the PS3 has more downs then ups. Way more downs then ups. I don't care if you get a Blu-rayy player and DVD player with it. Its a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE no matter how you look at it. Those Blu-ray players in the PS3 are going to be trash, compared to the stand alone blu-ray player. All I care about is the games, where's the games? (15 of them are 360 ports with tilt.)

ZeshiO
ZeshiO

Zerosnake, a real computer will blow a xbox360 and the PS3 out of the water, so don't compare it to an alienware computer that is far better in comparison. Computers can easily be upgraded for less cost than continually buying a new console every couple of years. Second, lets admit that new console games are unreasonably priced. $60 dollars for a new game seems a little much for me. Third, I'm up in the air about the blu-ray disc because it is going to take a while to catch on, not to mention the new HD-DVD's coming into competition with it. I'm excited for the PS3 too, but If I am even going to consider buying one, I'll be looking at reviews and new games that aren't ports a little later on down the line to make sure i'm making the right decision. Work out the kinks, drop the price, and I'll agree this could be a sweet deal if you have the money for it.

KronikKilla
KronikKilla

You can try and justify the price all you like, its still too expensive. And their robust luanch line-up includes 14 games that are or will be available for 360. I don't see it failing, but until Sony starts putting out games that aren't ports of 360 games, it is really not that interesting or exciting. I mean, Fight Night and Blazing Angels have been out for awhile now, and were even on PS2 and Xbox. And the only piece of hardware that is truely more expensive is the Blu-Ray drive, the rest is give or take a few dollars. The HDD on the $600 system is more or less the reason for the higher price tag, that and the HDMI port (it still has that, right?) I'm sure whatever they have for online will be easily matched by Microsoft. How about instead of trying to sell the system, you guys worry about the games. That's why you own a GAMING CONSOLE, isn't it?