PS3 hacker sounds off on PSN debacle

George "GeoHot" Hotz denies any involvement in attack on network, says it resulted from corporate hubris regarding hackers.

Not long before the PlayStation Network was hit by a disastrous "external intrusion" last week, it had been the subject of another attack. That assault was staged in early April by the hacker collective known as Anonymous in retaliation for Sony suing George "GeoHot" Hotz, the admitted PlayStation 3 hacker who helped crack the console's security system late last year.

GeoHot does not condone the attack behind the PSN outage.

Shortly after the most recent attack, which has brought down the PSN for over a week, Anonymous denied sanctioning any further action against Sony. However, the decentralized nature of the hacker collective could mean some rogue elements may be behind the data leak that has paralyzed the service--and has led to the potential leak of some 77 million PSN users' personal data.

For his part, Hotz, who settled his suit with Sony earlier this month, denies any part in the PSN outage. "To anyone who thinks I was involved in any way with this, I'm not crazy, and would prefer to not have the FBI knocking on my door," he said in a post on his personal blog. He also condemned the attack, saying "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices is cool; hacking into someone else's server and stealing databases of user info is not cool. You make the hacking community look bad, even if it is aimed at douches like Sony."

But just because Hotz claims not to be involved in the PSN breach doesn't mean he isn't sounding off on the matter. "Let's not fault the Sony engineers for this; the same way I do not fault the engineers who designed the BMG root kit," he said. "The fault lies with the executives who declared a war on hackers, laughed at the idea of people penetrating the fortress that once was Sony, whined incessantly about piracy, and kept hiring more lawyers when they really needed to hire good security experts. Alienating the hacker community is not a good idea."

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strawhat1987
strawhat1987

@Dareitus in your case u own the originals, and of course if we are talking about older games which are hard to get these days i won't complain about getting the roms, even i use roms. what i'm talking about are the games that are accessible at the present time through normal markets.

I_am_the_moon
I_am_the_moon

lol is this still not working,how long are you going to wait like fools.

carbonic_acid
carbonic_acid

@Spiderblade Thanks, though @zequex should get the recognition for giving that excellent criticism of "hackers". I just reposted it

AceBalls
AceBalls

@Blood-WarriorX Save your godly rhetorics for your own rainy day mate. Not interested in partaking with you. There's no actual proof that any credit card numbers have been 'sold' yet. You just believe everything you read. I don't support hackers at all and I never said I did. I simply made a warning statement, and you just exploded at me for no real reason due to your own incompetence.

Zoomer30
Zoomer30

Call me crasy but I think the fault lies with people who rev engineer the console and figure out the security key and then tell everyone how to do it....hmmm.....Yep that sounds a lot better than ChevyGeos answer....

Blood-WarriorX
Blood-WarriorX

@AceBalls Fear* Free, was supposed to be Fear. I am suitable shame faced.

Blood-WarriorX
Blood-WarriorX

@AceBalls Okay maybe I wasn't clear enough when I said "let's clarify," so allow me to try again. Hackers, DO NOT equate to freedom fighters. Corporations, DO NOT equate to citadels of free and oppression. In fact the opposite is more true, hell these SOBs wonder around the internet, from the safety and security of their computer monitors, doing whatever the hell they want to whoever the hell they want all for the 'lulz' of effing someone else over. The only thing Sony did was remind these people that they are in fact, fallible, and most definitely mortal, and because of that act of defiance they became a target. And now these people are purportedly selling credit card information online to the highest bidder, and YOU want to SUPPORT these A-Holes!?! Could you possibly explain to me what the hell is wrong with you sir, or are you just that terrible of a person?

AceBalls
AceBalls

@Blood-WarriorX No-one likes it when companies like Sony update your PS3 to lock you out of features that you bought the damn machine for in the first place either mate. As for 'douchmonkeys' like myself, who else is going to remind tough warriors like yourself that you're nothing but a little liberal lackey that is too stupid to figure out the real problem..

ebookerd1
ebookerd1

@armydominican69 This could be an excuse for them to do that honestly....

haz2000
haz2000

I totally agree with him. Sony needed to have better security in her network to protect the users all over the world but now a lot of people will leave to join the Xbox live instead. it's a big loss for Sony since they lost the credibility of people. so what if someone hacked the PS3 that was going to happen sooner or later. Someone will crack and hack any system just like the Xbox 360 or the i-phone. I'm sure whoever did this wanted to punish Sony for being so aggressive against hackers.

HotHeatMcQueen
HotHeatMcQueen

This guy is soooooooo cool. Ohh wait, he's a hacker. Hackers deserve to rot in hell. Get a job, life, hobby, whatever. If i ever meet this guy he's gonna get a devastating overhand right to the face.

blackwingzero
blackwingzero

The funny thing here is that he's right. Sure he and Sony are on shaky ground but damn he's got a point here. Ultimatly Sony became so high and mighty that it was just a matter of time before something like this happened and forced them to back down to earth.

sedamine
sedamine

I like it. Holtz presents a proper and unbiased statement regarding the matter. No matter what you create, there will always be someone there to contradict, or crack that creation. Copyright laws don't protect anyone from that. Only the exact recreation, and marketing. @i am the moon: Good luck finding a gaming console that is "what it says on the tin". You're just being plain naive, sir/madam. And I dare you to use a console for online gaming that unlike Sony, does not charge a fee. Let's see how much you really start spending, or can afford on market games.

the_mitch28
the_mitch28

I don't really care for this guy but in this case he's absolutely right. Always work with hackers, not against them. It's something companies like Microsoft have been doing for years.

I_am_the_moon
I_am_the_moon

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Zartan3000
Zartan3000

Hackers are dweebs who break into things because they can. But it doesn't mean THEY SHOULD. In fact they SHOULD be lambasted in the gaming community and the general public for being the complete douches that they are! They're squirming because of all this new attention. The FBI should ban this guy from ever owning a sophisticated piece of tech for the rest of his life. Give him a Gameboy and Brickphone and see how smart he feels!

Magic_Panda92
Magic_Panda92

Sony isn't to blame at all! Even if they made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes, its the d**kheads who use this mistake who need to be shot!

Revoth
Revoth

Although it's unfortunate that PSN users were nearly victims in all this, Sony certainly got what they deserved. Sony challenged someone they had to know they couldn't beat and paid for it. I don't understand why people here seem pissed at George Hotz either. Do you really think these hackers couldn't have done what they did without him? Is it his fault that the CEO of Sony is a Nazi who says that even after you pay hundreds of dollars for a console it still doesn't belong to you, that he gets to decide what you can and can't do with it? I realize those questions are aimed at teenagers who are groomed to be the next generation of corporate sheep, but still...it doesn't hurt to think for yourselves from time to time.

MIST---BORN
MIST---BORN

i bet after and during hacking they musta felt realy big and that they are awesome wonder how long that lasted when people started stating the security was sh*t. also not a very imaginative hacker in general a little odd that they could of hacked anything but chose to hack anything they could find to do with sony, someone has a sony complex.

BrazilianBud
BrazilianBud

I hate him. What he did certainly made it easier for the ones who hacked the PSN. He's just a f***ing moron. If you want to play other softwares, buy a PC. Sony has all the right to protect their business. I hate him!!! Every time I listen to his voice I feel like punching his face until he dies! ;D

zero9167
zero9167

"and kept hiring more lawyers when they really needed to hire good security experts." LFW?

Blood-WarriorX
Blood-WarriorX

Is it at all possible for Sony to Sue mister 'GeoHot' again, maybe exploiting some manner of 'don't be such a ridiculous douche' clause in their settlement. Cause I gotta tell you, that would be stupendous. @AceBalls Lets be perfectly clear, no one likes hackers, other hackers don't even like hackers. And Lauding them publicly on Gamespot does not make you cool, it makes you a giant douchemonkey. Which is ironically fitting considering your profile pic. A big middle figured salute to you and everyone else like you sir.

AceBalls
AceBalls

Hackers rule. Don't @#$% with them. Without them, the corporations will rule you.

mariomaster16
mariomaster16

"I didn't do it. But you did deserve it." Sounds convincing. He was accused of hacking security before, right? As in scouting it out? As in he's done it once, and knows how to do it, and without getting caught this time.

organbank
organbank

@mikelightyear: close. Here is how it works and has been working since the intorduction of personnal computers: Hackers = Grey Area Good Crackers = BAD It is crackers not hackers who will steal and sell any and all information they find trawling the internet, not hackers. And, screw SONY because they are more than happy to screw you!

mikelightyear
mikelightyear

lets make something clear about hackers there are the good kind who only want to open up games and systems for everyone and then there are bad hackers who are criminals how hack the psn or try to steal credit cards and put spyware and viruses on your computer to try to steal personal info

I_am_the_moon
I_am_the_moon

the old skool hackers will shun him and force him out of the circles he feeds on no doubt,they will already have banished him,no solo hacker would do this,this reaks of shenanigans.sony are also at fault for having s... security,the blame goes to both as far as the public are concerned,we aint taking sony side or georges you both f....... us up!

I_am_the_moon
I_am_the_moon

This is just asking to be on family guy lol. his hair looks like a burst couch.

Skeet1983
Skeet1983

George looks so much like a sissy girl that God must have peed on his DNA

Zoomer30
Zoomer30

And be on the lookout for these new users at a Gamespot forum near you: EgoHot EgoTho GetOho GetOoh HoeGot HoeTog TheGoo ToeHog I like "TheGoo" the best, remides me of a blob of slime, which kinda sums up hackers....

TheHalomaster5
TheHalomaster5

"The fault lies with the executives who declared a war on hackers, laughed at the idea of people penetrating the fortress that once was Sony, whined incessantly about piracy, and kept hiring more lawyers when they really needed to hire good security experts. Alienating the hacker community is not a good idea." GG

oflow
oflow

@Max just because you own a ps3 doesnt mean you still arent a troll. And using the excuse that he's 'barely 20' isnt legitimate either, as they didnt make him do what he did he did that of his own volition. Last time I checked the law says you are an adult at 18.

Genrihhh
Genrihhh

IT wasn't him it was his CYBERGIRLFRIEND!

CaptainHerlock
CaptainHerlock

@MaxBlaze How about he shouldn't have shot his mouth off in the first place? Oh that's right, it's easier to blame the big, bad faceless, inhuman corporation, than it is to take personal responsibility. If any of you have ever read (I know that's a strange word for gamers) Marvel Comics Spider-Man (yes, he was around BEFORE video games about him) you'd be familiar with the line "with great power comes great responsibility". If he was familiar with the phrase, then maybe he wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess to begin with.

lbptoady
lbptoady

i don't get why some people are hating on Geohotz and Sony for the breach. Some lazy idiots hacked PSN. Sony should have informed us earlier, but it still isn't their fault it happened. And Geohotz had nothing to do with the attack. He's cool. The PSN hackers, are not. Remember who to hate in this case. Not Geohotz or Sony, but the people who did the actual breach.

MaxBlaze
MaxBlaze

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MaxBlaze
MaxBlaze

To jeremiah06: Too bad you never will. Keep on hating. Sony tries to ruin the life of someone barely over twenty and they get what they deserve. Sony...more like Fony! ha

jeremiah06
jeremiah06

If only I could get my hands around his neck...

icetone
icetone

To all you hackers out FU YOU LOW LIFES that HAVE NOTHING TO DO BUT RUIN PEOPLES CUMPUTERS I WOULD PUNCH YOUR FACES OUT IF I had the chace nah im jk just knock it off

_fark_
_fark_

The reason the servers were hack was because Sony were using 6 year old technology which was easy to break through. The method used to hack into the servers is well known but Sony did not patch the hole. The apparent cyber theft also happened on the same day Sony fired around 200 employees in the Sony online department.. coincidence???

_fark_
_fark_

GEOHOT... DID... NOT.. HACK.. THE.. PS3 Big writing so none of you miss it. A group called Fail0verfl0w HAcked the PS3. Geopants was just the first person to use the method found by "fail0verfl0w" and release info on some of the keys. He was one of many hackers trying to be first through the finish line and did nothing special. He is an attention wh*re who love claiming recognition for things he did not do.

bigcrusha
bigcrusha

lol more then 90% of core gamers want to see him and his kind decapitated and hung on mantles, and yet to be able to remain so cocky, they've got balls of steel.

megakick
megakick

meh too bad it took a world wide shut down for sony to fix PSN security... not the best way, shows how much sony cares. this is huge, a giant being shut down and many just blow it off. how many other companies throw stones in glass houses?