PS Vita "developed entirely differently"

Develop 2011: Sony discusses the possibilities for social networking, augmented reality, and a new development model for PS Vita.

Who was there: Kish Hirani, head of developer services at SCEE.

What he talked about: Hirani started by showing off the PlayStation Vita units to the audience and explained that there were only five units in Europe at the moment. He then ran through the technical specifications compared to the PSP-3000 and explained that the way it had been designed meant that gamers would get "a whole range of games" from casual to AAA.

Dual thumbsticks for the Vita was a frequent request from developers.

He then went on to show off some of the PS Vita's early augmented-reality applications. First, he loaded a tech demo from Japan Studio showing the system's facial recognition and video chat features, with the latter using virtual avatars. These avatars tracked the movements of the two people talking, attempting to match head, mouth, and eye movements. It then featured one of the participants attempting to flirt, showing hearts leaping across from one screen to the other.

For AR, the Vita can use any patterned surface as a "marker"--rather than having to use a specific object, as you have to do with current AR games such as EyePet. A tech demo from London Studio then showed off a patch of office carpet being used as a play surface for two different games, one involving a flying dragon picking out targets on the floor, and another showing a brief tank battle set up on terrain mapped across the floor.

Hirani then showed off Reality Fighters, which uses these technologies to create a fighting game featuring characters built from facial capture technology, and stages grabbed from the real world. He then talked about the development challenges around augmented-reality games. Accuracy of mapping and display is actually the third priority for those developing games with this technology, according to Hirani; stability and robustness are both more important.

The PS Vita was not created in isolation--very different to the PlayStation 3. There were "huge amounts of input" from both first- and third-party studios. "Every single person" asked for dual analogue sticks, he said, and the whole system design was informed from a very early stage by what developers wanted. The PS Vita has been "developed from the ground up with developers in mind," Hirani said.

Quote: The PS Vita is "designed from the ground up as a social networking device."

Takeaway: The PlayStation Vita was developed in a different way to previous Sony platforms, and that change in philosophy is being continued in Sony's developer relations. Neil Brown, senior engineer of SCEE research & development, emphasised these points. "We've never had tools in such a mature state before launching a new platform," he said. "It's our most developer-friendly console by quite some margin."

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moviequest14
moviequest14

@ polik890 : Well judging by your enthusiastic defense of vita,I have come to the conclusion you don't own a 3ds,and neither have really tested one to see the features it does have,so how then do you feel as though you know what all 3ds has and know for a fact that vita ''does more''? With gaming aside even though it is one of the main feature the 3ds has mp3 capability,digital camera (in 2d and 3d),e-shop,ar functionality,multiple video services,internet browser,multiple nintendo exclusive features such as ''mii plaza'',and downloadable content to expand that even more (different versions of clocks,calendars,notepads,etc.) to only name a few of the basics. So to clarify statements like the fact vita will be using some of the best new features for a portable social network (other than facebook of course on mobiles)..but just saying ''It does more'' is purely opinion at best. Honestly there would be nothing nintendo could do to make you or other....gamers happy,if they hadn't cut down the price you would've gone on with some vita-victory boast saying the like of ''nintendo is going to fail because vita is better and at same price! If 3ds wants a chance of surviving they are going to have to go cheap!''. Yet when they do cut down the price drastically you consider this ''failing''.The fact that after suc h a short period you are already blowing the horns of victory for vita and defeat for 3ds shows how your viewpoint started off from anyways..

moviequest14
moviequest14

@ shadow655 : in what regard? According to amazon, vita pre-buy is actually now $300 or wi-fi 3g so that would make it even more expensive....

moviequest14
moviequest14

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Blitzkrieg129
Blitzkrieg129

Not much into handhelds as of late, but I have to say...this looks pretty sweet. I might pick it up after it's been out for a while.

shadow655
shadow655

@moviequest14 U obviously have not been following up on the Vita news...

moviequest14
moviequest14

@dinslacck: 3ds sales have picked up since Ocarina and will undoubtedly continue at least in the green for Nintendo with all the 1st party titles in the near future.And unless you have a crystal ball the vita HASN'T EVEN COME OUT YET it could fail for all you know,it probably won't but nothing is set in stone yet,one of the main failures of 3ds was the price,most people couldn't afford it,vita is same price so logically it will have the same problem. I'm not saying Vita will be a failure but it is still quite a bit early to ''proclaim vita-victory'' when the system hasn't even come out yet.

dinslacck
dinslacck

the handheld console sea is red. sony is killing nintendo 3ds with their Super weapon Vita. hahahaha

Jonwh18
Jonwh18

blows the 3DS out of the freaking water! better game line up and far more powerful plus 2 joysticks! FINALLY!

naruto-fan55
naruto-fan55

@xshadowzz, maaaan, youre totally right on that!!!! nintendo sucks, i bought the 3ds and have no reason to play it, the only reason i ought that is for capcom's re:mercenaries, which sucked, and megaman legends 3 got cancelled, and re: revelations looks terrible, man i'm not buying anything from nintendo now onwards.

naruto-fan55
naruto-fan55

@xshadowzz, maaaan, youre totally right on that!!!! nintendo sucks, i bought the 3ds and have no reason to play it, the only reason i ought that is for capcom's re:mercenaries, which sucked, and megaman legends 3 got cancelled, and re: revelations looks terrible, man i'm not buying anything fromnintendo now onwards.

naruto-fan55
naruto-fan55

DAMN!!!!, cant wait for the vita, a proper, decent successor to the psp, not the crappy psp go, i hate the vita's name, though, looks like some name of mineral water or somethin'

nicholaslo
nicholaslo

Finally we see a very good successor to the psp. Cant wait for the vita.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@ Ravenlore_basic : Part dos (because I blab too much to fit into normal base :P ) : If sony had started developing on motion before wii and put it aside post-wii launch then explain the obvious similarities in their design past the launch of wii-mote (slender main control with side control attachment,plastic ''tools'' to put remote into to use as gun,golf club,etc. or even the identical launch title of a 1st party sports title ''showing off'' said tech)?From the previous video it shows only a tiny tooth-pick like stick with a monster-sized ball on the end,no control was developed by that time yet at launch it is a near clone of wii-mote.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@ Ravenlore_basic : That version (from the video) is as you noted..just an IDEA though and was still a prototype being tested,if things being tested were considered said company ''making'' them then there would probably be countless previous ''tests'' that have even trumped that and glasses free 3d that weren't publicly announced.Heck,there have been TONS of tests done on things and there are probably being tests done right now on things that we won't see for a long time (Nintendo could very well have been working on motion sensing before wii was developed or announced,just because wii was Nintendo's first console to have motion sensing doesn't mean it was the first time Nintendo tested it or publicly announced it,if that were true then people would've known about the wii-u features LONG before it were announced,and if I am correct some rough form of motion was done by Nintendo even before Sony even had a big name in gaming called ''The Power Glove''.Also I have heard many times that wii was still being tampered with in 2001 or earlier while in gc era,several years before said video) but what ends up mattering is which Company finishes the polished tech idea first and get's it out.And motion itself isn't the only way move copied wii,take the main,slender motion control,the extra add-on remote,the bonus tools move connects to such as gun,etc.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@ xshadowzz : No they didn't but they were the first to use (glasses free) 3d.No,they don't have to be original or innovative,they don't have to even add anything at all and they would still sell.But in order for me to buy it they need to.And calling Sony ''the best'' in every aspect is far from fact yet.

naruto6rox
naruto6rox

Cannot wait for this to come out! Loved my PSP, but this is going to be amazing (:

xshadowzz
xshadowzz

@moviequest14 Nintendo didn't invent 3D, you know. ;) Also, Sony doesn't need to be the most "original" or "innovative", they just try to be the best. And they succeed in every aspect.

theJBlounge
theJBlounge

I just struggle to see how Augmented Reality will exist outside of a few tech demos or one or two games like Eyepet. Nintendo did the same thing with the 3D camera and Face Raiders. Pushing the potential of 3D AR, but we haven't heard anything since then.

meesus
meesus

@Lion_H3art me too, if it has monster hunter i will go and pre-order it as soon as i learn it does. I'm still going to get it even if it doesn't, but it better have monster hunter

Spartan765
Spartan765

Hey people will there be a regional code on the psv

Lion_H3art
Lion_H3art

The PS Vita is absolutely amazing! Definitely going to get this on DAY ONE. I just hope it gets Monster Hunter!

mario-nin-freak
mario-nin-freak

The Vita looks very good, but it still does not appeal to casual gamers like the 3DS. So, it does look amazing, but will the sales be good? Only time will tell.

grbolivar
grbolivar

99% of the comments I've read all along the web about the PSVita give it "thumbs up"... seems like Sony did a very good job with the PSVita and people is liking it very much... and it's not even out yet! Me myself, I'm getting one day one. PSVita FTW!

grbolivar
grbolivar

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cameio
cameio

Day one of course ;)

theshonen8899
theshonen8899

@vi_munaro Same. Uncharted and Gravity sold it for me.

M3ran
M3ran

well it all sounds very good,we need more info

zeonfollower
zeonfollower

Every technology that came out, I gotta wait at least 1 year until the technology perfected it.

Spacerac
Spacerac

I personally can't get over Sony's antagonizing move at pricing it the same as the 3DS. I mean, its so strange to think that if Nintendo hadn't spurned Sony when they were working on a CD addon for SNES, the PS brand may never have existed. It's like it's full circle or something, if I'm explaining this right.

okassar
okassar

The handheld gaming market needs more competition. The Vita definitely looks better than the 3DS to me, but I want to see a 3rd player. Where are you Microsoft? Seriously, it can only be a good thing because Sony and Nintendo will try harder and everyone would have a 3rd device choice. Prices would go down faster too.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@ moviequest14.... I have grown tired of so much ignorance that for the most part I ignor it. still. try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNdkm9s8AY . It shows the same Ball type IDEA, that Move uses Well before Wii mote came out. - _ - . . . . . . - _ - . . . . . Eyetoy was first to use a camera for motion tracking, color dection, and motion gestering for gaming on a console. Sony was still in R&D mode when the Wii came out, and decided to go the same way due to their past experience with Eyetoy. Maybe it was the wrong choice but they still have the R&D down and can come out with better motion, gesture tracking dection later on as POF cameras are not unique, and several companies make them. I am sure we will see an imporved move and better POF camera with the PS4.

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

that ball is their for a reason it helps to make it way more precise that the wii mote

moviequest14
moviequest14

EXACTLY! That is the problem though... With Kinect I have MUCH more respect for it than move,despite it's flaws because they took an idea such as motion gaming brought into the industry fully by nintendo and improved on it and made it their own,that is innovation and new thinking.I am not against Sony (or any company for that matter) taking tech and improving it..but they need to add something to make it unique,otherwise it looks just like a cheap knock-off (if taking the original and slightly changing it is innovation than there is a ton of ''innovation'' in discount stores with those ''pillow pet'' knock-offs).Sony could've done a variety of things to move to keep it from being a wii copy.They could've changed the structure,build-up,feel,play type,shape.etc. there is ANY number of things they could've done to actually improve the experience and make it unique and a sony staple...but instead they just put a glowing ball on the end and dubbed it ''move''. (and things such as disc formats and analog sticks are things that are only advancements in the hardware ((most of which was already around in non-gaming devices)) and is completely different than exact features that effect gameplay such as wiimote,touch screen,etc.).

konn3r
konn3r

@peacemakersanad Im sure it will last more than 2hrs but it wont last a whole day. No device with this processing power can last a whole day. thats why this power hasnt been put in cell phones. because cell phones need to last a whole day

konn3r
konn3r

@moviequest14 okay. the touch screen is new technology. just because the ds had it first (a way worse touch screen btw) doesnt mean its copying because someone else uses it too. Sony is taking old ideas and improving them. Sega was the first to use discs on there consoles, does that mean EVERY console after it is copying them. Nintendo 64 was the first to use analog sticks. Do you really want a video game world with out discs and analog sticks? Maybe you should quit hating. I love the 3ds. its 3D is great. I love the psVita, its duel analog sticks are exciting. This industry is about trends and improving on those trends. Just like the Miis and XBL avatars. Miis came first but xbox improved my implimenting them in better features. its not copying them

konn3r
konn3r

@shadowhunter0 Not only were the controls reduced in size they were also not raised at all and they had this click instead of the way the other psps did it. i hate the go

moviequest14
moviequest14

@shadowhunter0: Even if a few games did have ar it still wasn't a staple of the system or associated with the psp.and ar itself is only one of the many examples of Sony's copying of other companies technology and branding it it's own.And while the backpad does seem interesting in some forms I can't imagine it in a variety of uses.Ultimately it does come down to game choice though,both 3ds and vita are bringing the best of their console brothers on the go so it looks as though everyone will be happy with either choice.

jecht_35
jecht_35

the dsi has AR built in maybe 3 games used it there I said it hate me or not I speak truth. On topic thought, Can't wait for the vita It looks sexy only thing is release a damn list of games comeing release day Sony that is all.

moviequest14
moviequest14

@endorbr: I am not against sony,none of sony's products are even closely related to bad,they are far from it,but I also want to see some new things that wow me and are really some new and shocking things,once I see those I will by all means be a fan of Sony,though I think most gamers are often too lax and lenient with sony though,they criticize every detail and function of every step other gaming companies (namely nintendo) and are lax and loose with sony.Once I see the steep favoritism curve towards sony and against Nintendo (Microsoft seems fair enough) and see some new innovation on sony's part then I will be as big a fan of Sony as the rest of them,but neither has happened yet. Great software and new innovation are equal..hand in hand,for a system to be great (imo) it needs both.I need something new that changes gameplay (for the better) but is not too overwhelming (such as Sony's vr testing) and over-the-top,that is still original,which I haven't seen a lot of from Sony but once I do I will most likely give it as much praise as most other gamers seem to...

dawnofhero
dawnofhero

@shadowhunter0 Like I said, if you like it, enjoy it. I personally am glad Sony went the way they did with the Vista's model.

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@dawnofhero the screen isn't that much smaller and since it is my first psp and I don't want physical copies of the games on a portable system and I have know problems with the controls so yeha I do like it and have no regrets on getting it over the psp 3k and btw I got 2 weeks before the psn servers went

endorbr
endorbr

@moviequest14 - From your comments I've been reading and the back and forth we had earlier it's apparent that you are not a Sony fan. We could go on about this stuff all day but it's basically just going to boil down to differences in opinion in the end so I don't see the point. Nintendo and Microsoft are NOT the only companies that are innovative. Besides, being innovative is great but ultimately not the most important factor. Getting out great software that takes advantage of the hardware (innovative or not) is.

dawnofhero
dawnofhero

@shadowhunter0 Hey, the Go's screen was smaller than the 3000 model, and to top it off, the games weren't tangible. Did I mention the controls were reduced in size too? But if you like it, by all means.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

not sure if I will get it at launch or wait... I usually wait, just not sure atm.

holyghost87
holyghost87

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