Prototype PS3 install issues being addressed

Activision acknowledges problem for "a small number" of open-world action game purchasers, promises a patch, suggests work-around in the meantime.

By its very nature, a prototype is likely to have some bugs that need to be worked out. Such is the case with Activision's newly released Prototype on the PlayStation 3, as the publisher has acknowledged on its customer service site "a small number of PS3 Prototype owners have been having issues with installing the game."

The issue is that the game incorrectly tells some players that they have insufficient hard drive space to install the game. A downloadable patch for the game will be released "shortly," but in the meantime, Activision has suggested a work-around.

Players might be able to eliminate the error message simply by changing the amount of free space on their hard drives by 700MB. It doesn't matter if that change in space is achieved by adding new games and demos or deleting existing content from the system. Once the changes have been made, reinserting the disc should allow the game to install properly.

Developed by Radical Entertainment, Prototype casts players as a genetically altered shape-shifter tearing a path of destruction through New York City. Along the way, gamers try to discover who they are and what's behind their mutations, all while fighting off an assortment of military and mutant adversaries. Prototype is also available for the PC and Xbox 360.

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168 comments
sunilkumarsheor
sunilkumarsheor

hi ! i really like it i will go now and buy this game. this is too cool. but i will buy the for pc.

Glokwerk
Glokwerk

I have yet to hear of anyone actually having this problem, I didnt no one I know had it, my friend who works at gamestop has not heard of this. I think it is one of those that might happen to someone so they covered their a$$ early to avoid any problems.

deathlord98
deathlord98

Face it a computer is so much better then xbox or ps3

Linkman0714
Linkman0714

just something for 360 fans to bash about. i have the ps3 version and have no problem at all

DarkEntries
DarkEntries

I devise an 'Xbox players quit whining on PS3 articles' rule.

majestix1988
majestix1988

piracy increase sales on xbox360...you can download torrents or download it on net and burn it.....

donsnypa
donsnypa

@AtheistPreacher i totally agree with you [ i am a x box hmm dont like the term but fanboy and i have to say that x box customer service sucks ass my x box broke with a fault that was not my fault or mallicious (white screen with loads of differnt languages instead of playing my damn game) and bill gates said it was not a recognised fault and i had to pay even though i only brought my x box 2 years ago and it was still under extended warranty anyway the point i am making is xbox console faults are swept under the carpet and have actually forced many people i know personnally to go and buy ps 3 when my bros wii broke they fixed it for free with no charge and when his ps3 broke in 2 weeks they brought him a refurbed one for free SORT IT OUT BILL GATES -_-

Noah-Phoenix
Noah-Phoenix

O.K, I fail to see why this is newsworthy? So a games got a slight glitch; who cares? It's been put up so 360 fanboys have a chance to slag off the PS3, and so PS3 owners shout back, and the news item gets loads of comments. You lot are suckers. Hang on.....of course I mean we are all suckers. I own a 360, by the way. I'd love a PS3, but I'm a peasant, and so my social status doesn't allow such luxuries.

thekodaman
thekodaman

These things happen, at least they're not ignoring the problem like Bethesda did for so long with Fallout 3 when it experienced similar issues.

Malco_Vincenzo
Malco_Vincenzo

@ 14113a sorry i didn't make that clear enuff for you. I meant that 360 fanboys ahould stop flaming the PS3 on PS3 centric articles. personally I don't see the point in people saying negative things about a console when the article mentions nothing of their console. and i said "360 fanboys". so you shouldn't have taken offence.when i say 360 fanboys I mean people who come on to this site look for PS3 centic articles and flame on until the next one comes along (I.E. Salarian Chemist). Did I say that people like yourself who own a PC and PSP shouldn`t look at articles. No I didn`t say at all. next time try to understand who my comments are directed at before you try and shut someone down. but you have to admit, even tho we have the freedom to express our opinion, not everyone needs to hear about why their system sucks for something as little as a glitch. that`s what we call fanboyism.

chibi-acer
chibi-acer

Console wars aside, that's a pretty stupid bug.

joke_man
joke_man

@noles82 Thanks for the clarification, but I still don't think you understand what I was talking about regarding mandatory installs. There are many games where installing the game makes little difference if any at all. Furthermore, as I had stated in my post, I have installed several games to my 120gb hard drive on my 360 and I know that the game runs off of my hard drive, rather than the disc and using the disc drive..... With games like Oblivion, I have the choice to install the game to my 360, as well as other games. Seeing as the improvement from installing a game differs so widely, I can choose whether or not the benefit of installing a game compared to the hard drive space I'm going to eat up and the time it takes to install the game is worth it. Having the choice to install a game is better than having to do it before I even get to play the game and see how bad load times are. This is why I asked if all games were mandatory install or only some. However, these questions were not addressed and I still believe mandatory installs are silly.

Leinhartx
Leinhartx

SalarianChemist Wrote "The defect ratio on the Jasper model of Xbox 360 is only 1% - 2%, which is excellent -- far better than the PS1, PS2, or PS3" Listen friend, I own all systems, and I love my 360, but where ever you are getting your info from....whooo boy are they feeding you a line of bull lol. The 360 is easily the least reliable console this generation. Jasper models included. I've sent my "unbreakable" console in twice and a previous xbox360 in twice. I love it to death, but its definately not more reliable than a wii or ps3.

rockstar_88
rockstar_88

@ SalarianChemist: Just because a console sells more than the other one doesn't make it the better console. That's like arguing with me that the Wii is the superior console to the 360 in every way because it sold 3x more. These sale arguments are beyond pointless considering just about every game that comes out on either console ends up on the other one eventually and it's really just all based on what the consumer is willing to pay for (I wanted a 360 for XBOX Live and a PS3 for the Blu-Ray player).

AtheistPreacher
AtheistPreacher

@ SalarianChemist: NPD sales data below: May PS3: 131K 360: 175K 360/PS3 Ratio = 1.33:1 April PS3: 127K 360: 175K 360/PS3 Ratio = 1.38:1 March PS3: 218K 360: 330K 360/PS3 Ratio = 1.51:1 February PS3: 276K 360: 391K 360/PS3 Ratio = 1.42:1 January PS3: 203K 360: 309K 360/PS3 Ratio = 1.52:1 Average ration, 2009 YTD: 1.43:1 Now, when you're talking ratios, 1.43 is a FAR cry from 2. Hence my issue with the 2:1 statement. Secondly, on the failure rates issue... you seem to be saying that somehow the massive failure rate of early 360 models should be (at least partially) discounted as an "outlier statistic," because that model isn't what people buy now. Well, the same can be said for the newest models of PS2 slim. Or, if you want earlier, SCPH-50000 models were very reliable. My brother still has a SCPH-50001 from... heck... I think it was 2003, and that sucker is still going. In short, I'm failing to understand why you want to go back in time 7+ years to criticize failure rates of last-gen systems, but don't want to go back 2 years to recognize the massive issues with the 360s. Why does one still count and not the other?

Tizn0w
Tizn0w

Dang! That's a bummer... I'm glad I chose to buy inFamous before Prototype. Perhaps, by the time I finish inFamous--and purchase a copy of Prototype--the issue will be thoroughly fixed. Hope so.

Doolz2024
Doolz2024

Oh ok, so that's what the patch was for. I started the game up earlier and dl'ed the patch, didn't know what it was for though...

hotbodyboy_2006
hotbodyboy_2006

PS3 Sucks, Xbox360 Sucks, My PS2 and PC STILL RULE..................

chapan17
chapan17

@SalarianChemist i bet u are not a fanbot at all

RGDT021
RGDT021

Here's an argument (more of a dislike)... you say 'rubbish' way too much.

Darkages04
Darkages04

funny arguments going on here, everyone beating up the PS3 and XBOX360....well let me join in the game. PS3 rubbish......the games rubbish........the little amount of games out is also rubbish..........the non sense of a game only for the PS3 is rubbish since they are sending MGS to xbox is rubbish and the fanboys are rubbish. XBOX360 rubbish......RROD rubbish.........again the games only on xbox360 rubbish since NG2 is going to the PS3........the fanboys rubbish too. There, no machine gets a good comment from me so no one can argue here, unless you find something to argue about.

Kravyn81
Kravyn81

(part 2 of 2) This is another jewel that cracks me up: [quote="SalarianChemist"]2. Since you mentioned Microsoft, don't you think it's fair to point out that Microsoft spent a whopping $1 Billion dollars in order to extend the warranty of the Xbox 360 to an unprecedented three years of time! Microsoft pays all shipping costs, as well.[/quote] Oh! My my my! How gracious of Microsoft. However, let's not FORGET that for three years before that denying any problem existed in the capacity that was being claimed by consumers about the 360. Please. And that's just TWO examples from your comments. I could pick more but then it would just be redundant.

XeonForce
XeonForce

SalarianChemist: "At this point in time consumers will be purchasing "Jasper" model Xbox 360 consoles, which means that is by far the most important statistic to research. The defect ratio on the Jasper model of Xbox 360 is only 1% - 2%, which is excellent -- far better than the PS1, PS2, or PS3." I don't think you could be more ignorant if you tried...

Kravyn81
Kravyn81

@SalarianChemist (part 1 of 2) It's good to see another brainwashed plebe for MS's camp. Your spin on their propaganda is commendable. Unfortunately MS is not this sanctimonious entity that you so blindly have faith in, and reading some of your "justifications" makes me laugh. For instance:[quote="SalarianChemist"]We also saw that Sony forced people to pay the shipping costs for repair, even if their console was under warranty. This is a disgraceful action on the part of Sony, especially since it was their firmware update and the poor technical support that caused all of these errors to occur with PS3 consoles.[/quote] Oh, really? Well isn't it likewise a "disgraceful" action for a company to release a product KNOWING they have such an abominable failure rate? You know, kind of what MS did with their 360 when it released? Not only is that disgraceful but it's unethical, or are you so far gone that you think that was an acceptable decision to knowingly defraud their consumers just to be first on the market?

Darkages04
Darkages04

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Hvac0120
Hvac0120

[quote="SalarianChemist"] In all likelihood, this trend will continue. [/quote] The trend will continue until later this year when all of those highly anticipated PS3 games start releasing and the PS3 gets a price cut. The PS3 is at 22 million units sold while Xbox 360 is at 28 million units sold. That's only a 6 million console difference and Xbox 360 released a full year ahead. So, even though Sony is in "last place," they are holding strong for having the highest price for entry (cost of console). The NPD numbers can change drastically. All it takes is something that triggers buyers to go one way or the other. When you compare what 360 has to offer this year compared to the PS3, it looks as if PS3 may sway those numbers for a short period just as it outsold the Xbox 360 for the first half of 2008 until the price drop of the Xbox 360.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@14113a: You are correct. When I made a reference to the fact that the PS3 sales for 2009 are lower than the PS3 sales for 2008, I was referring to the months of January through June. In all likelihood, this trend will continue. This statistic is probably the most devastating one of all to the PS3. This proves that the PS3 continues to decline in popularity. Being in "last" place is bad enough for the PS3. And selling fewer consoles than the Xbox 360 or Wii at "similar points in their lives" is also bad. But the worst stat of all for Sony is the proof that PS3 is experiencing declining annual sales.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@AtheistPreacher: NPD Sales data shows that the Xbox 360 does outsell the PS3 each month by a ratio of approximately 2:1 on average. NPD Sales data is nearly 100% accurate. VG Chartz is not a reliable source of sales information. The reason why VG Chartz is not a reliable source of sales data is because of the fact that VG Chartz uses a custom "proprietary" method of gathering information for sales. One of the elements of the "proprietary" method used by VG Chartz is that they "gather data from the manufacturer of the product." This allows Nintendo and Microsoft to compete on equal ground. However, this excludes Sony from competing on equal ground. Let me explain why in the message below.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

When PS3 launched, Sony told shareholders PS3 would sell 6 million consoles by spring of 2007. But PS3 had a poor launch. When spring of 2007 arrived, there were only 1.4 owners. Of the 5.5 Million units Sony had "produced" from the factory, only 1.4 Million had been "sold" to consumers. As a result, Sony changed their corporate definition of what the word "sold" meant. Sony originally calculated "sales" in the same way as Nintendo and Microsoft. "Sold" meant "shipped" to a retailer or wholesaler who had purchased a unit. But, in spring of 2007 Sony changed the definition of the word "sold" to include items "produced" on the assembly line and "placed into inventory." This means Sony now considers a PS3 "sold" the instant it comes off the assembly line and starts collecting dust in an inventory warehouse. Due to the fact that VG Chartz "proprietary" method of determining sales includes data from a manufacturer (Sony saying PS3 has sold 22 Million units), it means that the PS3 sales information is not correct. In reality, PS3 doesn't have anything close to 22 Million "owners." Here's proof. In spring of 2007, Sony's Jack Tretton was interviewed. He was claiming PS3 had "sold" 5.5 Million units (since that was the number that had been "produced"). But, there was a chart behind him that clearly said only 1.4 Million people "owned" the PS3. This proved data from Sony (and therefore VG Chartz) is no longer accurate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIDsTsWJHw

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@AtheistPreacher: I agree with what you are saying. I was simply pointing out that there are multiple points of view that a situation can be looked at based on time, price, different versions of a product, ect... Obviously the PS1 and PS2 will have a larger number of cumulative total defective systems because they sold over 100 million consoles during their 10 year lives, while the Xbox 360 has sold 30 million consoles so far during its four-years on the market. You are correct that the cumulative ratio of Xbox 360 systems that had a defect is larger than the PS1 or PS2, but let's be honest, the 30% defect ratio of the launch model "Xenon" systems represent an "outlier" form of statistic that make the overall "average" inacurrate at this point in time. At this point in time consumers will be purchasing "Jasper" model Xbox 360 consoles, which means that is by far the most important statistic to research. The defect ratio on the Jasper model of Xbox 360 is only 1% - 2%, which is excellent -- far better than the PS1, PS2, or PS3.

AtheistPreacher
AtheistPreacher

@SalarianChemist A couple things that jump out at me in your posts: 1. "And let's make one thing clear: There are far more defective PS1 and PS2 consoles than there are Xbox 360 consoles." Well yeah, I would hope so. There are about 145 million PS and PS2 consoles on the market, compared to 30 million 360s. Of course there would be more defectives, because there are 5 times as many on the market. The failure RATE/RATIO I don't believe plays in the 360's favor, however. Personally, none of my three current-gen systems has ever wonked out on me, so I guess I'm just lucky. :) 2. "Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 by a ratio of about 2:1 in worldwide sales every month." Really? that's not how I read this year-to-date sales chart: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS3®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=39817&end=39964 Red line is PS3, Green is 360. Doesn't look like 360 is doubling up on PS3 to me, so I don't know where you're pulling that 2:1 number from.

im_back
im_back

@SalarianChemis, Im not sure the PS3s sales is a true reflection on its current state. Sure, the number of PS3s sold has drop this year, but we are also suffering from the single worst economic crisis most of us will ever see. Ofcourse a console that sells for $400 is going to suffer sells. Doesn't mean the PS3 has failed as a system nor does it mean that the sony sucks. A lot of people take sales figures out of context. Just think for a moment and compare the average console sells price of the Xbox and PS3... Xbox say around 300$ and PS3 say 400$, thats a 1:1.33 ratio. and if you look at the sales figures for may, you shall find that the xbox beats the PS3 by a 1.33:1 ratio. So, technically speaking, bought companies are making more or less the same amount of money. I believe that doesn't mean anyone is winning... and just out of interest, what are they "fighting" for? Last time I check, there was no console war, just a bunch of fanboys fighting with each other. @Malco_Vincenzo, I don't even know where to start with you. 14113a raises a good point. Anyone can air an opinion of anything they like, its their right to do so. If it doesn't fit with your views, just thumb it down and ignore it. As for exclusives.... I have no idea where to start with you on that....

14113a
14113a

@Malco_Vincenzo "but seriously 360 fanboys need to stop flooding article that don't mention the 360 in them." so people who dont have the system are banned from looking at articles about it and voicing their opinions?? I only have a psp and pc so by your reasoning I should be banned and gagged from 5/7 of the site. (so stfu)

14113a
14113a

@SalarianChemist you mentioned that the sales were higher in 2008 than in '09. I think you have neglected to mention that we are only half way through 2009, so of course they would be lower. However, if you were talking about ps3 sales at a similar point (july 2009) then your argument would stand. btw Im not a fanboy, as I own neither console, just someone who hates bogus statistics (if thats what it is)

im_back
im_back

How did a developers error and lack of QnA testing become a debate about consoles?? Sure, it only affects PS3s but so what? I would be really bummed if that happened to me. Radical games drop the ball, not Sony, nor Microsoft....

10679
10679

AtheistPreacher "You should probably take your own advice there. 360 had sold approximately 5.5 million units at PS3's launch, which means the sales race is roughly 25 mil for 360 and 22.5 for Sony. That's a 10% margin, which I'm fairly certain most would agree qualifies as "selling equally." The Wii, on the other hand... now THAT'S a meaningful margin." since the ps3 launch 360 has sold more than 5.5 million units.having a 3million gap is pretty since ps3 has come close in closing that gap.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@ malco_vincezo: I just want to respond to your comments: 1. Firmware Update 2.4 caused hundreds-of-thousands of PS3 consoles to malfunction. We also saw that Sony forced people to pay the shipping costs for repair, even if their console was under warranty. This is a disgraceful action on the part of Sony, especially since it was their firmware update and the poor technical support that caused all of these errors to occur with PS3 consoles. 2. Since you mentioned Microsoft, don't you think it's fair to point out that Microsoft spent a whopping $1 Billion dollars in order to extend the warranty of the Xbox 360 to an unprecedented three years of time! Microsoft pays all shipping costs, as well.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@ malco_vincezo: 3. Although the first-generation of Xbox 360 launch consoles, which are referred to as the "Xenon" model did have a very high defect ratio of approximately 30%, the redesigned "Falcon" model that was introduced in 2007 has a defect ratio of only 1-3%, which is excellent -- far better than the PS2. And let's make one thing clear: There are far more defective PS1 and PS2 consoles than there are Xbox 360 consoles. Let's make another thing clear: The technical support and customer service from Microsoft is much better than anything Sony ever provided. When my "Xenon" model Xbox 360 that I purchased on launch day had the RROD problem, I received a box in the mail from Microsoft two days later to ship it to them. It took two days for them to get the console, and one day to figure out what happened. It then took only two days for the item to ship back to my house. I had my console back in 10 days, and I didn't have to pay for any shipping costs. I thought it was awesome the way that Microsoft even reimbursed people who paid for shipping with anything associated with the RROD after their one-year warranty had expired, once they made the decision to extend the warranty to three years. Current Xbox 360 "Jasper" models only have a defect ratio of 1-2%, which is less than the PS1, PS2, or PS3.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@ malco_vincezo Sony never provided any type of high-quality customer service like what Microsoft offered for Xbox 360 with the RROD, not for any product of any kind that Sony makes. I know this from personal experience, because Sony's poor technical support make me reformat my hard drive three times because they didn't understand the problems associated with the errors caused by Firmware Update 2.4. And I also was forced to spend my hard-earned cash shipping my PS3 to Sony, all because of the firmware technical problems that they are responsible for. Sony wasn't willing to give that cash back, even though they accepted responsibility for the problems with Firmware Update 2.4. I also have had the misfortune of finding out that Sony doesn't stock parts long enough for their A/V Receivers or Television sets. Once Sony decided to stop making Projection HDTV sets, they stopped caring about the customers who had already purchased them. And I have a $1,000 A/V Receiver from Sony that burnt out. It was no longer covered by warranty. I would have been willing to pay for a repair, but Sony doesn't have the parts in stock anymore. So, I paid $80 to a licensed Sony repair center for a "diagnostic" of whether or not the unit could be repaired for nothing...it was $80 out the window. The newest model of Xbox 360, known as the "Jasper" model has a defect ratio of only 1-2% and it uses superior parts that generate less heat and make less noise. The Jasper models on the market in stores now are so much better than first-generation Xbox 360 consoles that they even use a different power cord because they don't require as much electricity.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@ malco_vincezo: 4. Xbox 360 has completely outsold the Playstation 3 in every part of the world except Japan (although from the summer of 2008 until the end of 2008, the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 in Japan). Xbox 360 has outsold the Playstation 3 by the incredibly large number of 8 Million units in North America alone. PS3 does not come close to Xbox 360 in terms of sales. 5. Even when you compare the Xbox 360 to the PS3 at "Similar points in time after their launch" the Xbox 360 has sold far more consoles than the PS3. This was an excuse Sony used to use, saying "The Xbox 360 has been on the market longer, which is why they have the sales lead, but we are doing better at similar points in time after launch. " However, you have not heard Sony say this for about 1.5 years, because this no longer applies due to the fact that the Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 by a ratio of about 2:1 in worldwide sales every month. 6. The PS3 is not even selling as well in 2009 as it was in 2008. This is the true indication that shows what a sales failure the PS3 is. Sony used to at least be able to say, "The PS3 sales are still growing, because our sales for 2008 are higher than they were in 2007." But Sony cannot use that as an excuse anymore. Sales for PS3 in 2008 were higher than in 2009, which is an absolute indication the console is a sales failure. Finally, I'm not a fanboy. I'm simply a person who responds in a direct way when people are too aggressive.

Ehggsz
Ehggsz

I just think it's hilarious to see when a game has problems, it's the systems fault. Like I said, Activision is the one we should be moving our pointer finger side to side over. Babu Bhatt: "That's a bad Activision. A very, very bad Activision."

parhar67
parhar67

@ Malco_Vincenzo Most hypocritical thing ive ever read "as a gamer you should be disgusted by a company trying to buy up exclusives" LOL so it was ok then when devil may cry tekken GTA final fantasy 13 was only on the sony platform then right....what the hell are you babbling about you hypocrite if microsoft didnt do that then it would only be on the PS3. However according to you if it was on the PS3 only and microsoft didnt get these games on the 360 then its ok. I shouldnt be disgusted. Man where do you think from? I dont have RROD and i dont have E74 error. You say that 360 fanboys should stay out of sony forums and not say nothing about the 360 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA my my god your the biggest hypocrite registered on this site. I always see you posting on 360 forums ALWAYS and you tell us not to post on here. You say your disgusted by the fact that microsoft buys sonys exclusive content but your not disgusted when sony has it on their own from the start. ITS CALLED MONEY HELLLOOOOO. You should be disgusted at Sony charging developers for people downloading content like demos on PSN. Now thats disgusting 16 cents a gig adds up real quick. Man I would like to see where your educated from because it looks like you never made it past grade 6 with the stuff you say. Hypocrite_Vincenzo should be your name.

Kurzicide
Kurzicide

@ ShadowOfKratos Yeah I understand what you mean. I was speaking from a US customer perspective. @ Malco_Vincenzo Okay, it might've Red Ring'd. But you never mentioned how he had it set up. Closed-up situations are bad for any console. Also, Microsoft did mention why LIVE is closed on the 16th. It's for, what they call, "future growth", meaning their E3 announcements. @ Jhoalot Then tell me where profits come from. It IS the software that makes the profits.

Zoomer30
Zoomer30

Just ignore the 360 fans, they feel they have something to say bad about the PS3 hardware, when in fact it has nothing to do with the hardware, but the software. A minor bug that has an easy work around and will be easy to patch. Makes me wonder if people who have installed their own hard drives in their PS3s are the ones having the issues, that would explain why its not very many machines, The PS3 is very solid. The 360 can fail in so many different ways its not worth it. I wont buy one. If the 360 people want to stop getting flamed they need to stop flaming the better machine, just making themselves look foolish.

Malco_Vincenzo
Malco_Vincenzo

@ stormer454 love the pic. GO FULL METAL JACKET. but seriously 360 fanboys need to stop flooding article that don't mention the 360 in them. that means you SalarianChemist

Malco_Vincenzo
Malco_Vincenzo

@ parhar67 "You say microsoft just likes to show how much money they have when the truth is Sony makes more money than microsoft does" i said that MS likes to pay off people like you and developers. of course they make less than sony look at how many people they've payed off for timed exclusives. "800 points is the equivalent of about 7 bucks." here's a site that disproves that: http://www.mspconverter.com/ $10 bucks US, $12.79 Canadian. proof is there bud. you should know you own the 360 not me.

Malco_Vincenzo
Malco_Vincenzo

@ parhar67 if microsoft cared about their people then why did they release a faulty system for people to buy? "Microsoft is better with their people than sony is and that is the truth because they take away all of sonys exclusives for their fans." as a gamer you should be disgusted by a company trying to buy up exclusives. and also these "exclusive" as you call them are mostly timed. look at eternal sonata. a year later the PS3 version gets extra things that will neve see the light of day on the 360 like extra quests and characters. Fallout 3 DLC is coming to the PS3. the only real exclusive that microsoft took was the GTA 4 DLC. and theywon't even release the sales numbers. kinda says something. seriously dude you condoning microsoft taking exclusives from sony is the kind of asinine thinking that leads to saturated games. if more poeple thought like you we'd have developers hype up a game and just wait for the old MS paycheck to come in. it's sad that you think that way. and you making for of ShadowOfKratos for being a PC gamer is disgraceful. the PC is the original gaming device. you saying he spent more money on his PC than you did on your 360 is stupid. You're still paying for XBL he's not. You're still getting problems like XBL crashing, RROD, and E74, he's not. He gets to play the same exclusives as you as well as PS3/PC exclusives like FFXIV and DC Universe. get a freaking clue.