Preowned Wii U consoles allow free game downloads, user claims

Second-hand systems reportedly allow new owners free access to all digital titles purchased by original user.

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Gamers who purchase a second-hand Wii U can re-download all digital content the past owner previously purchased free of charge. That's according to a NeoGAF user, who claims games are tied to the console itself and not any one individual Nintendo Network ID account.

The user--DSN2K--claimed the second-hand system was "wiped," though it was not mentioned where the console was purchased.

The user noted that upon entering the Wii U eShop, some games did not have a price, but were instead labelled "redownload," despite never having paid for them.

Thus far, the user has been able to download Trine 2 and Nano Assault Neo for free.

A Nintendo representative was not immediately available to comment.

Discussion

351 comments
ggregd
ggregd

I guess then, by extension the original owner can no longer download his games if he gets a new WiiU because the account is tied to the console and not the user?

Araknie
Araknie

Erm, is this bad? It's not normal, since you can collegate your Club Nintendo account to the Nintendo Network ID and not the console?

 

Nintendo really has to explain this? I don't get it...

itchyflop
itchyflop

everyone's knocking Nintendo again !!! it ll be a sad day IF they ever leave the gaming world. Somehow i feel a massive multi corporate company with over 100 years of industry knows what its doing. 

craigprime
craigprime

Not surprising...well, a little. The same thing can be done on used 3DS's, DSi's, and Wii's. On;y thing that's worth noting, if at all, is the purchases are saved on the console, instead of an ID. I don't find that newsworthy.

If you download a game, and you "wipe" the console later, it doesn't make sense for the game that was purchased to go away from the world. Is this any different from giving the game to another person?

Great,  now I wasted 3 minutes writing about this pointless article.

tgwolf
tgwolf

Woo hoo! ...Even still the news may be dampened by the fact that there was no comment from Nintendo which might as well mean they were too busy plunging into economic analyses and/or quickly patching their ostensible loss...

obsequies
obsequies

nintendo really needs to make an update for this if they want any indie support into the future. Small devs barely make it to begin with, free/used sales will be a further deterant for any open progress on this system

digi-demon
digi-demon

Typical gamespot sensationalism... nothing here to see... move along :p

Lazy_Marine
Lazy_Marine

people sellin off their WiiU's already, haha

kartik24
kartik24

SSHHHHHHHH!!! goddamit stop emptying out wallets !!

Hardstyler2012
Hardstyler2012

who the f*ck wants a wii U anyway? load of sh*t!!

obsequies
obsequies

devs are really gonna like this

Iamshmee
Iamshmee

This is nintendo's huge problem with digital downloads. They have a system that would be great for keeping track of downloads and your account, but they don't really use it.

You can link to your club nintendo account, it keeps track of games you've played and you even get rewards, but if you get a new console you can't get your titles back.

I had a DSi and sold it and now have a 3DS which could totally play my originally downloaded titles but no luck in getting them back because Nintendo has their crap backwards.

tightwad34
tightwad34

Yet another reason why I don't like the digital only thing. If you are relying on all digital there is so much room for error there as opposed to having a phyisical copy that is all your fault if you lose it or break it, or whatever.(getting stolen being one of the very few counterarguments) 

tightwad34
tightwad34

There are already WiiUs being traded in? That's pretty sad. Guess I shouldn't be surprised, but still...

WoodenStick
WoodenStick

a good reason to buy a used console that isn't patched yet. sarcasm people.

LordelX
LordelX

Nintendo could easily fix this if they wanted to. There actually is already a structure in place to associate systems and downloads through user's club Nintendo accounts. Until this is put in place, why would anyone buy a Wii U?

jdookee
jdookee

Who cares about free game downloads?  It's not a good sign that there's preowned Wii U's out there so shortly after launch 

BlackSquare
BlackSquare

So if I break my console and buy a new one, then most likely I'm going to have to rebuy all my games. Because it seems to be attached to the console and not the user. Simply put, this is just another reason way people pirate.

 

So they expect the person to pay hundreds of dollars for a game, and then if they need a new console, they expect the person to repurchase all the games? Come on.

Chrimbus8bit
Chrimbus8bit

@ggregd Yea, that's pretty much the way it works, I have the WiiU and recently went through something similar.  I bought the WiiU the day after Christmas and well it was a lemon, as I found at a few days later. I exchanged a few days later for a new one. I had bought several games on eShop. Well...Turns out my account and games were locked to the console I traded in/exchanged. I contacted Nintendo and at first they told me there was nothing they could do. I kept on to them, and was eventually asked to send in my receipts of exchange, which I did. A Nintendo Customer Service Rep was able to allow me to download the game, and my account on to my new console. It was a major pain though and I was pretty upset at the possibility of loosing the games I had bought. It's a terrible way of doing things. I'm use to STEAM, which works in the common sense way.

IllegallyAwesum
IllegallyAwesum

 @craigprime yeah, but what if I buy a new console. my old Wii was the same, and I hated losing all my VC downloads. The stakes are a little higher with WiiU DLC, so I would like an explanation as to just where my purchases matter.

westsiderz28
westsiderz28

 @Lazy_Marine

 its cos thers no games for it whers the games at? anyone who bought a wiiu bought it for zelda, mario, starfox, fzero etc

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @CHROMEFLAMIN 

Yet I recall the PS3 and 360 filled with "disasters" when they first launched. Remind me again how those systems turned out. Stop spouting out BS because you really have no valid facts to go on. 

toshineon
toshineon

 @Hardstyler2012 I want one, and I'm pretty damn sure there are alot of people that wants one. Just becasue you don't doesn't mean that you speak for a majority of the gaming community.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @jdookee 

You do realize this happens to pretty much all consoles when they first come out? People buy them on impulse and soon realize it's not for them, selling it. I saw used Vita's not too long after launch. 

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@BlackSquare And they don't bother improving the online capabilities so there's literally no reason for the people who are iffy about pirating because of the "online compatibility". Luckily for them, that's not even an issue... this will be as bad as the Wii considering the Wii U is ALREADY close to being hacked as well. They made some seriously stupid mistakes with this console leaving some of the same vulnerabilities that were present in the original Wii. I was amazed they didn't improve upon the security on this console...

Lhomity
Lhomity

 @BlackSquare Content providers are bending head over heals coming up with ways to protect their content, some work, some fail, some are not user-friendly. That isn't an excuse to pirate. Piracy is the reason we're in this situation in this first place. We all thought it was good sport to torrent all the crap we wanted, turning piracy into a mainstream, everyday household activity. Even your grandmother can use a torrent client. There's no chicken and no egg. Just a big steaming pile of shit that we all buried ourselves in.

 

 

Also, expect this to be fixed via maintenance and potential firmware update by Ninty soon.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @BlackSquare 

Contact Nintendo, give them proof of your purchases and they will most likely either give you credit or a code to redownload your games. 

Chrimbus8bit
Chrimbus8bit

@ggregd Also, from what I gathered, why they wouldn't have your account info to log into it, the eShop would still be linked to the console and therefore they could download any games you bought. Nintendo just needs to add in a tool to unlink an account both Nintendo and eShop from a console. Unless formatting one does all of this, which I'm not 100% sure of.

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@IllegallyAwesum @craigprime I was incredibly pissed off about this as well. I purchased a few SNES and N64 games on my original Wii and figured if I just logged into my old account on my new Wii that I could redownload the games I had purchased through that account. Nintendo has got to be the most horrible company when it comes to doing anything involving online integration. I have been so disappointed with them since the release of the Wii.... it's so sad that Nintendo has made me lose faith in them after so many years enjoying their consoles and games and in fact all of their products. I hope they update their current console's online functionality because I foresee the death of Nintendo if they can't pull their heads out of their asses before the next two next-gen consoles come out. Everybody loves the Nintendo IP's, but everybody loved Sega's IP's as well... unfortunately that won't save you with mediocre consoles. Nobody will buy them, and then nobody will buy the games because nobody will have the console... The Wii U is going to become the Dreamcast of Nintendo guys... 

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @westsiderz28  @Lazy_Marine Dont be so frikkin stupid - people who got a WiiU knew that the launch games are purely that and the big titles are a little way off just jet

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @westsiderz28  @Lazy_Marine 

Like every other system, hardly any system launches with multiple major titles. It hasn't even been two months yet you people are already demanding games that Nintendo almost always takes their time with. 

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@toshineon @Hardstyler2012 Well get ready for disappointment when you do get it. I was EXTREMELY excited for it as well because I figured they might have learned something from the epic failure that the Wii online community was. It hasn't changed one bit... so if you have been hoping to actually get to play Mario games online with other people around the world... unfortunately you'll be as disappointed as I am. I would love to be able to play co-op with friends around the world. Most of my friends have moved away and gone off to actually be successful unlike myself, and I can't even network with them on a supposed "next-gen" console. Bleh... I still like my Wii U, but until they make a worthwhile xbox live-esque community, I will only LIKE it and not LOVE it. It's hard for me to say it too... I love Nintendo and really am hoping they can impress me.

BlackSquare
BlackSquare

 @Lhomity Never said it was okay reason to do it. Companies constantly worry about why there is piracy. Well if you paid hundreds of dollars for a game you will be so pissed that you will hack the Wii and proceed to pirate the games you already bought. Which falls into the grey scale area.

 

However, this just provides an incentive for the person to say,  "Oh if I already done it for these games why not one more?" And then the person pirates every game they can get their hands on. Piracy is wrong but companies need to remove the excuses/incentives for doing them. Now I'm not saying DRMs, which create more piracy, but stop giving reasons for good customers to get pissed at your product.

BlackSquare
BlackSquare

 @abHS4L88 Hopefully. But if it was bought online is there even a kind of receipt? Maybe an email.

tightwad34
tightwad34

 @abHS4L88  That's a lot of hassle to get back games you already bought.

 

dreamfist11
dreamfist11

 @digi-demon  @westsiderz28  @Lazy_Marine Yes because you can read minds and know what every single person who bought a WiiU was thinking right?  Don't tell someone to not be so "frikkin" stupid and then go and be a moron yourself 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @westsiderz28  @Lazy_Marine 

Thing is there are great games for the Wii U, too many people are just focusing on the obvious Nintendo titles where there's already New Super Mario Bros U (considered the best 2D Mario since Super Mario World), ZombiU (niche game but still great nonetheless), several strong ports like Assassin's Creed 3, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, Darksiders 2 and Call of Duty Black Ops 2, along with games like Rayman Legends, The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on the way, all before E3 which Nintendo will most likely announced a huge amount of games since their best E3's have mostly occurred after they've launched a new console. 

 

I also didn't count the eShop which already has about 4-5 strong indie games with a handful more on the way. 

westsiderz28
westsiderz28

 @abHS4L88  @Lazy_Marine

 if history has taught us anything its dont release a system with no games or else its dead in the water and defo dont rely on 3rd party software

they need top games out in the next 2 or 3 month or so cos once e3 come everyone will be looking forward to ps4 and nextbox, which are supposed to be shown at next e3

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@abHS4L88 @Enforcer246 @CHROMEFLAMIN well considering I have one and am absolutely appalled at how they haven't bothered to improve the online community more than adding that childish MiiVerse crap... it makes me sad that they really have no clue how to at least COPY the ideas of the other companies to make a worthwhile online community. There isn't one at all.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Enforcer246  @CHROMEFLAMIN 

Both massively improved over the years, which is why idiots who only started gaming or only seem to remember the past 3-4 years think that the PS3/360 were always at their best and trash the Wii U for not being completely optimized already. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @BlackSquare 

Every time you purchase a game digitally, they provide you with a digital receipt, but there's also Club Nintendo that you should link to your account that tracks your online purchases on the eShop.

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@abHS4L88 @tightwad34 Yeah.. all those people who had Red Ringed 360's should've taken better care of their console.... OH WAIT that problem had NOTHING to do with them at all. Huh... interesting. Not everybody is careless with their possessions... sometimes shit happens that's out of our control... if that were to happen I would certainly be angry if I couldn't easily go back and look at all of my past purchases and redownload them like you should be able to. It was pretty easy to do on my new Xbox when I sold it and ended up buying a new one, and then that one red ringed so I had to get ANOTHER one. No problems redownloading everything either time. 

tightwad34
tightwad34

 @shadowriku3   I am just saying you should never have to go through any sort of hassle to get back something you still own and didn't break, especially if it never got stolen. I am sorry if I upset you in some way.