PlayStation 4 to support Vita remote play, cloud-based backward compatibility

New console to use Gaikai cloud technology to output games to Sony handheld; Sony promises streaming options for legacy titles.

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Sony has been quiet about its plans for the Gaikai cloud streaming service since acquiring the company last July, but that silence ended today with the announcement of the PlayStation 4. According to Gaikai CEO David Perry, the PlayStation 4 has integrated Gaikai technology into the system to allow PS4 games to be streamed directly to the Vita.

The technology was demonstrated onstage using the recently announced PS4 title Knack, which is in development at Sony Japan Studio and directed by Naughty Dog and Insomniac Games veteran Mark Cerny. According to Perry, the PS4 acts as a server and sends video straight to the Vita screen, which can then be played remotely on the handheld.

Perry also stated that Sony is currently planning to bring the entire back catalog of PlayStation titles to the PlayStation 4 using Gaikai's streaming technology--though none of this technology was shown during the press conference.

"Everything, everywhere is the challenge we have put forward to our teams," said Perry of Sony's streaming plans.

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thekazumalord
thekazumalord

So.. only be able to play PS3 games on Vita?... i'll just play my PS3 games on my PS3.. since that's what it's for. Not that i plan on getting a PS4 for at least a few years when the price drops.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

"Sony is currently planning to bring the entire back catalog of PlayStation titles to the PlayStation 4 using Gaikai's streaming technology"

A dumb idea since not everyone has decent internet connections. I have a decent collection of disced games, I should NOT need to use up my download allowance on games that don't normally require internet connects, and I already own.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Tom make more sales PS Vita's only chance is when PS4 comes out people may want to play there PS4 games on the PS Vita and use the Vita touch screen as a controller for PS4..

That is PS Vita's last chance to survive and become successful..

crunchb3rry
crunchb3rry

I'm just hoping you can put the physical disc in and qualify for the streaming. Otherwise, it's 720 for me.

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

Sorry, no streaming anything for me.  Big mistake.

Infinity_Gauntl
Infinity_Gauntl

SO the vita can support both PS3 and PS4 games......now how can it do that if the PS3 & PS4 are so different??????? This just means that the PS4 could support PS3 downloadable games but SONY WANTS TO SCREW US OVER!

mamkem6
mamkem6

I wonder what are bandwidth requirements for streaming those ps3 games cloud-based backward compatibility and vita remote play?

tsunami2311
tsunami2311

So if I already own said game I have to buy it agian shocking. Besides emulation PS3 game would of never happend on that hardware. Some PC of today cant even run the Full  catalog of ps2 games at full speed on pcsx2. What chance would ps4 have of running ps3 games emulation on specs equal to mid to high range of  right now?


I honestly dont buy the streaming though.(stream is you play as you download and no broadband has that kind of bandwidth to do that and few that might are available to all) now it eeing download first I buy

NorthernDruid
NorthernDruid

So it doesn't actuall offer backwards compatability then? I can only "borrow" old titles...


Better keep them old machines.

danusty
danusty

I'd rather be able to play all my physical copies from ps1 to ps3 on the ps4. 

uncle ben said: with bad internet power comes bad (or none) streaming. or something along those lines.

5SI-GonePostal
5SI-GonePostal

DeJaVu anyone?  I remember most of this being promised on the PS3 when Vita was launched, got the 1st proper cross play December 2012 - and thats only 1 game (LBP2).  

itchyflop
itchyflop

so now can i finally play bf4 or watchdogs on my vita as promised before??? 

Scarshi
Scarshi

Remember when "cloud" meant "networking" before non-nerd people found it useful?

Scarshi
Scarshi

If this means my shiny new PS4 has to be switched on all day and night if I want to "stream" content then how long before it burns out? I hate wasting electricity for "just in case" scenarios.

Its like leaving your car running in your garage in case you suddenly want to go somewhere and don't want to waste time finding the keys.

sajtion
sajtion

its gonna be subscription based service for money

kiramasaki
kiramasaki

Im confused about the backward comp. Can I use the cloud to put all my old titles on the ps4, or are they just saying they will put all the titles on cloud and you get to pay for them again?

02050muh
02050muh

they try to raise the hype on E3 this year good move! i bet microsoft also reveals their console on E3 this year

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Why havent they shown us the PS4 console on the unveiling? They obviously havent figured that out yet!

wowski13
wowski13

Very disappointed but not entriely surprised to hear that the 40+ PS3 titles I own will more than likely be of no use once I get my PS4! How about confirming some built-in backwards compatibility!?

blame80
blame80

also judging by the phrasing (also supported by playstation.de), it will only work within your own home network... soooo, not really a big deal and something i care about. true "on the go" ps4 gaming would have been great, this, not so much.

DeViLzzz
DeViLzzz

PS Vita ... play the Madden 13 demo and you will see how bad this handheld is .. fix the problems with that game playing on it and I will care

garysingh34
garysingh34

This had to happen and definitely a step in the right direction. Wii U offfers me a new gaming experience in being able to play ME3 whilst on the bog! It focuses on gaming around the "player" rather than the "living room"! This is also where Microsoft will be behind.

Jebril
Jebril

I don't understand why companies like Nintendo and Sony don't have COMMON SENSE, if you can't afford a dedicated gaming TV or don't have one than you're either too poor to afford a new console or you don't care enough about gaming (meaning you are not likely to buy new consoles at launch and not care about playing games on a handheld). In this day and age most people who care about gaming have dedicated screens whether they be a computer monitor or TV for their console. 

Ryoushi06
Ryoushi06

PS Vita as controller , well played Sony

nonfanboygamer1
nonfanboygamer1

Ahhhh...yeah I was expecting..I don't know....some Vita games maybe. Even a price cut...once again nothing for the vita. WOW U GUYS I GOT A $250 CONTROLLER! AWESOME!

puukusa
puukusa

I hope this backwards cloud compatibility means I can put my ps2 or ps3 game disks into ps4  which onlocks those games for streaming. If I have to buy them, then ps3 already has this "compatibily" where you can buy psone and ps2 classics from PSN

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

"Sony promises Streaming options for legacy titles" means We will decide what ps3 games to put on psn for play on the ps4 and charge you to play it.....lame

tahsineo
tahsineo

@Scarshi I guess it means that you can stream PS4 games and media stored in your PS4 to the vita. If you need to watch an entire movie in your vita, you can just transfer it to the vita and shut down the PS4. And why would you stream PS4 games to your vita "all day and night?" You'll do this occasionally at best and the rest of the time you'll play your PS4 games on your PS4 and you vita games on your vita.

trdrstv
trdrstv

@kiramasaki My guess is it's a pay for system along the lines of  "OnLive" 

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@GH05T-666 This was only an apetizer...a tactical move,if you like.
More on E3 in june.

walmongerer
walmongerer

@wowski13 How can they be of no use?? Do you own a PS3? If not, then yes they're useless. If you do, then you can still play them. Quite obvious to some, but needed to point it out. My PS3 games will still get played. I also own a PS3.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@DeViLzzz Sounds to me like EA did a terrible job with the demo.
Vita looks alright for me.If Vita allowed connection to TV's(like my old PSP can) i would have brought one.

Andrew1073
Andrew1073

@Jebril Well, I consider myself a gamer and I have surround sound, a beautiful Samsung TV, a sub woofer, and a nice couch to play on.  I also don't have an extra room in my house, or enough money, to also put a TV, couch, surround sound, and sub in another room.  Not to mention I love my original set-up, but according to you if I don't do all of this I am not a gamer?  Sorry, but that is silly.  I also have a wife that occasionally likes to watch TV when I want to game...so, whatever.

puukusa
puukusa

@Tripwolf I don't own a handheld as they are overpriced according to my value system. Not that I can't afford Vita, with extra 320$ (cheapest price at my locale) I'm more tempted on spending that money elswhere

Scarshi
Scarshi

@tahsineo @Scarshi Depends on the format of "streaming". If it is live streaming then when the ps4 is shut down you lose connection, just like a server. I am doubtful Sony would let you essentially "copy" games and media to the Vita to view indefinitely. Copyright laws would prohibit.

wowski13
wowski13

@walmongerer @wowski13 I will likely have to trade in my PS3 to afford the PS4, which will mean the games are useless without built in backwards compatibility. I bought the 60GB PS3 at release back in 2007 and as I live in the UK was similarly frustrated at the limited backwards compatibility then. I was able to play some titles but many of my favourites were unplayable. Having invested heavily in PS3 software over the years I would like to be able to play my favourite titles on the PS4 until it's library of games becomes more substantial!

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

Typomistake correction---I would have "bought" one.

Andrew1073
Andrew1073

@Jebril I also have enough money to afford PS4 at release...if I wanted to.  How many rooms do you have in your house anyway?  I don't even know where I would put an extra gaming rig.  3 rooms upstairs, 1 for my wife and I with a large bed, one for my toddler, one for the newborn...dining room is taken, family room has my original rig, and my office has my CPU and a CPU chair which I don't like to play games on...hence the console love.  I am sorry, but your reasoning obviously did not consider people in my position.

isheltoe
isheltoe

@danusty @Ryoushi06 Hmmm yeah Nintendo did a good job of stealing that from Sony... I remember using my PSP to remote play and play PSN games and when the Vita came out I could play PS3 games(not all mind you) and PSN games... yeah that was around with the PSP...

Andrew1073
Andrew1073

@Jebril @Andrew1073 LMAO, you know, you are right!  You win the internets!  You are absolutely correct, no one in the world wants to be able to play their consoles on the gamepad or their Vita, and if they do they are idiot non-gamers.  Congratulations.

LMAO.

Jebril
Jebril

@Andrew1073 @Jebril If you have a TV in the living room and in your room, you're fine which is what most people have now a days LMAO.