PlayStation 4 to support 4K resolution - Report

BGR reports Sony is planning to implement 4K resolution in its upcoming console as a way to draw consumers to 4K television sets.

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Sony is reportedly planning to double the resolution of the PlayStation 3 for its next-generation console, according to consumer electronics news site BGR.

Will Sony's PS4 sport 4K resolution?

BGR cites an anonymous source who reportedly told the site that Sony is planning to implement 4K resolution in the PlayStation 4, following the publisher's reportedly planned lineup of 80-inch XBR LED television sets sporting the same resolution. 4K has a horizontal pixel count of 4096, and is double the resolution of 1080p.

BGR claims Sony is implementing a larger scheme to push out 4K to consumers, likening it to the publisher's earlier efforts with 3D. The site says Sony's move to include support for 4K resolution media like games and movies in its next-gen console is part of an incentive to draw consumers to 4K television sets.

Development on the PlayStation 4 has been tracked back to 2010. Regarding when gamers might see the PS4, PlayStation CEO Andrew House has previously stated the publisher won't show the new hardware until it can demonstrate a "significant" leap over the PS3.

An analyst report predicts both Sony and Microsoft will have their respective future-generation consoles on store shelves by the end of next year. Sony's PS4 is rumored to boast the same graphics card as Microsoft's next Xbox.

For more on the PS4, check out GameSpot's rumor roundup feature.

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NoelXYeul
NoelXYeul

Here we go again, they're going to force me to buy a 4Kp TV after I once again have trouble reading the text in a Final Fantasy game.

BlueFlameBat
BlueFlameBat

That's fine, but even if I end up getting a PS4, I ain't buying another Sony brand TV after my less-than-satisfactory experience with the Bravia 32XBR, which I'm beginning to suspect does not actually run in the advertized 120Hz refresh rate, effectively making Sony an official liar.

 

Screw you, Sony!

MCM078
MCM078

4K resolution? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....no.

NeutralFan
NeutralFan

Personally I would rather see 60 FPS across the board at 1080p before bringing in 4K. I very much doubt that Sony can run 4K at 60 FPS on a console budget (by which I mean, -£300). And, I mean, it would make a much bigger difference to ordinary consumers to see things running in constant 60 FPS 1080p on their current televisions than 30 FPS in 1080p - with games limited to 30 FPS across the board. And if they didn't, then most gamers would probably deliberately pick 1080p for the increased frame rate. And if they made a box capable of both at 60 FPS, then it would be priced way out of the budget of your average consumer.

 

All this is probably years away though, so by the time they get round to actually making the thing, 4K 60 FPS at £300 may be more viable.

Shinobi120
Shinobi120

Heh, if this is true, then Sony's done in the gaming industry, whatever it's for gaming or not. 4k TV's are still quite expensive nowadays, & won't be the industry standard for another 10 to 15 years from now. 

 

Didn't Sony learn from their mistakes with the PS3 & Vita? Both of them financially sunk Sony with SCE. Now they want to financially sink themselves even more further? Good grief.

 

 

Cait
Cait

(o_o) Last place, losing 100 million a month, Vita sales doing badly, instead of releasing PS4 or whatever they call it release a new aging PS3 with a couple of new features, laying off most of their PR department...... ... .. And now, supposedly they've decided to support a format that's going to supposedly force people to upgrade to a super expensive TV set?  Forget how much the PS4 is going to cost.  Yeah, we should ALL follow Sony's example and yet, to many people Nintendo is the devil? Hmm, I am so glad I have my brain and that I use it for other things than decoration. Oh, plus, the whole announcing a price cut before Christmas with no firm date on when they'd cut the Vita price:  Priceless!  Yeah, everything they're doing makes them exactly what they are:  in third place of the console wars!

Sony fans, just admit it, the console in jeoparody of 'Dreamcasting" is actually, Sony's Playstation 4, if it's ever made.  Sad, because I have so many warm and fuzzy memories of playing the playstation.  It's just a fact of life that the only reason Sony got the market to begin with was Nintendo's lack of sight on not supporting the CD when it first came out with the NINTENDO 64.

James_Mason
James_Mason

I'm so tired of corporations trying to sell people new technology they don't need just so they can profit on new hardware.

 

I won't complain about HDTVs , because the old cathodic tube standard was getting kinda old, but it's just starting to be mainstream, why renitroduce a new standard ... Oh that's right, it's to sell new generations of TVs... But do I need to see even more acne ? Likewise, why release a new technology that will render all previous content irrelevant and force you to rebuy everything you own.

 

I don't want to buy a new tv, computer monitor etc. I don't even care much about a PS4 anyway, as i'm pretty satisfied with current gen gaming both in terms of scope, graphics and such.

 

If you want great graphics on PS4, concentrate of making the hardware capable to display stuff that looks perfect instead of raising the resolution to a stupid degree noone cares about.

 

 

dudy80
dudy80

Dumb idea, considering pc's still struggle at these kind of resolutions with the newest hardware. I dont see big name games using this as it would slow that console to a crawl with the card there planning on using in the ps4.

 

Man dose sony ever make stupid decisions.

pacpuf7249
pacpuf7249

The word "Report" in an article's title: the indicator that the information inside will probably be false.

ceainic_1
ceainic_1

I think 4K is a great idea . I mean everyone expects better graphics from the next gen consoles right ? 4K is a step forward and a step in that direction as long as the game developers will make games for 4K !

Hrodwulf666
Hrodwulf666

FFS... If I have to get an 80" Screen... I have to get a new house! 

 

I hate capitalism... Down with the west!!!!! ;)

 

s4dn3s5
s4dn3s5

LOL

 

yeah, just like Ps3 was going to be native full HD (1920*1080)... too bad there's less than 10 games in real full HD, not the upscaled garbage. Oh wait, most games are even below HD ready (1280*720), but hey, I'm sure they won't have probs with the 4K, since even the best gpus around struggle to give decent framerares at that res with filters. 4K require multigpus to actually be enjoyable, which is extremely expensive, not the kind of stuff you may find in a cheap console.

darksiED70
darksiED70

Dang. It already bothers me to see pores on actors' faces on my 1080p tv. 4k might make me see through their clothes.

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

What PC video cards and monitors today support this resolution?  And why would I upgrade my expensive flat-screen TV for this?  And how would my DVDs and Blu-Ray videos look on such a huge screen?  Letterboxed Blu-Ray?  YUCK...Thumbs down.  Work on using what you have.

beast70
beast70

bullshit! 4K??? that would easily be a $1500-$2000 (probably more) console getting 4K on a pc would be a immortal rig. let alone the tv's, my 1080 Sony bravado TV was like 800 dollars who in the hell Can afford a 4k tv.... also how many game devs would actually do this PC only game devs don't even touch resolutions like this.

TheBlackEclipse
TheBlackEclipse

Playstation 4? More like Playstation 4K! Get It? Because... it's gonna be in 4K?..... anyone?... SHUT UP I'M FUNNY! 

SiLenTWarrior29
SiLenTWarrior29

When it comes to games... Expect Sony to pull out all the stops.. Even tho i'm good with my ps3 i'm still excited to see how much the next gen will improve over current consoles especially ps3. I hope they right about the huge leap

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

PLEASE tell me they're going to call it something besides Playstation 4...We get it.  We've gotten it for long enough.  Reinvent yourself with the new system already.  At least fix the controller so it's more comfortable to hold in your hands and move the analog stick to the default position already!  The D-Pad is practically obsolete at this point (at least for moving your character).  Why is it still in the primary spot as if it's the main way to control a character in games?

brynhyfryd
brynhyfryd

4K and 8K industry standards have pretty much now been established so I am sure Sony will consider 4K for its next console. The decision will primarily come down to how much of an additional cost will be required to implement 4K into the next Playstation console.

 

4K is a good 10 years away and 8K more like 30 years away from becoming remotely mainstream primarily due to its cost but if Sony next console have the future support for 4K it would give them a big advantage during the middle to end of the next console cycle.

 

When 4K TV sets become cheap enough only then will 4K take off to become mainstream. Sony will have to make the decision whether to implement 4K during the next console cycle or the next gen after that.

Serious
Serious

@fusionrain I agree with  much of what you are saying.  sony is looking to the future. Trying to make a console that is capable of supporting next gen gaming. most of the leaked info is engineering or R&D notes. Most meetings at this early stage are just spitballing ideas. None of this is official. Sony might be considering 4k support as means of future 4k tv sells. Thus far we know that Sony is look at better resolution. And per another atricle they want game development to be easier for the PS4. Like any company they have learned from theirn mistakes. Expect PSN to be an improvement of XBL. cross game chat. improved Playstation@home, like vita it will have more social media apps. better resolutioon and faster clock speeds back compatible to PS3 but not PS2 or 1. 

firstclassgamer
firstclassgamer

Lol at Sony trolling peoples wallets....Im not going in debt just to play video games I love to play but I like being able to cope with life I'll just wait for the 20th price drop LMAO

Vambran
Vambran

The downside of progress. Having to spend all your money on upgrades. Damn 1st world problems.....

farcorners
farcorners

it will be very difficult to make a new standard in broadcasting television at greater than HD. It's taking ages for HD channels to make any headways, outside of the USA. Even there it is a slow uptake.

vegeta2002
vegeta2002

The new consoles are going to be less powerful than current PC's. Highlighting this by trying to run higher resolutions with less power seems really dumb.

 

Also, who needs a 4k resolution TV when a lot of channels still aren't even available in normal HD. Didn't Sony just lose a bunch of money trying to push 3d tv's?

 

 

 

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

*whistles* I had never heard of a 4k tv before. Damn and I JUST bought my Playstation 3D set.

 

dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

Hey @FusionRain , Why are you defending Sony so much? Are you an undercover Sony executive? :-D

Get_Shorty
Get_Shorty

The average human eye can't even notice 4k of resolution they way people usualy have their entertainment centers set up. It doesn't make sense. Let's get everybody up to speed on 1080p first.

jhcho2
jhcho2

Remember the ps3 could do 1920x1080 @ 120fps? Typical Sony BS

BlueFlameBat
BlueFlameBat

 @NoelXYeul I don't know about forcing you. Even at a higher resolution, small text can still be hard to read. If I chose a 13" digital TV instead of a 32", I'm pretty sure the small messages in Dead Rising would be hard to make out.

poster012
poster012

 @dudy80 Well, that's what people said back when consoles were going to support 1080p. Now, it would seem silly if they hadn't done that. I mean, look at the Wii. I'm betting that Sony (and Microsoft) will probably want the next generation to last up towards ten years. With that type of lifespan, you can't just look at the present tech, but try to anticipate where it's going to go in that time. Even if the games won't always support 4k, they'll at least want the video capabilities to do so. Keep in mind that they don't just want them to be used as consoles, but rather media centers. I think it would be stupid for them not to support 4k.

gwest40
gwest40

 @enoslives7 

 

Yeah, sure you would "mount her". What does all this have to do with the article? Don't you have anything better to do than talk about who you would like to bang?!?

rarson
rarson

 @VarietyMage 

 

"What PC video cards and monitors today support this resolution?" Video cards: pretty much everything over $300 (7950, 7970, 680, etc). Monnitors: none, unless you're using a multi-monitor setup.

 

"And why would I upgrade my expensive flat-screen TV for this?"

 

You wouldn't, not until 4K displays are relatively cheap and available. By then, your expensive flat-screen will be old.

 

"And how would my DVDs and Blu-Ray videos look on such a huge screen?"

 

4K is the resolution; it has nothing to do with size.

 

"Letterboxed Blu-Ray?"

 

No. The aspect ratio is still the same.

rarson
rarson

 @beast70 

 

Sure they do. In fact, some PC gamers are using even higher resolutions with up to 6 monitors.

 

Yes, there's no way the console will be rendering at 4K resolution. Just like the current consoles don't render in 1080p, but they support the resolution. Sony likely wants their console to support the 4K resolution for future displays. It'll just upscale like the current consoles.

sciafb
sciafb

 @Jedilink109 Agreed, at least use what they have on the Vita like the D-pad that isn't a pile of shit this time for the home console. They could honestly do the analog sticks better than they are now, they are literally the same they been since 1997.

Skulker87
Skulker87

 @brynhyfryd Yep, just because it supports 4K doesn't mean every game will be 4K. Look at the PS2, it supports 1080i, but how many game on the PS2 are in that resolution? Not many. (3 according to Wikipedia.)   

FusionRain
FusionRain

 @dr_jashugan  @FusionRain Mmmm nah. It seems like I and very hardcore if you don't understand my view. Really when someone claims something I like to see evidence. Lots of people tend to take things out of context. The fact that people are saying Sony is lying about this is enough because Sony didn't report it. Other than that I really enjoy talking about games and stuff. I like to see others views and try to understand how they came to that view. Some are empty soul'd but if you don't go for flaming and bashing you can really learn about stuff and learn how people feel about things.I also try to get people to understand my views and try to always back my views up with a detailed reason. Lets face it new consoles are exciting and I want to talk about them. So far most people are not complete waste of times to talk to. I'm having fun discussing this stuff for once. 

poopinpat
poopinpat

 @Bl4KD37H and with cards like those ppl could look forward to spending a grand minimum on the console too lol

Apastron
Apastron

 @Get_Shorty

It all depends on the size of the TV.  The human eye can see about 300ppi, and for a 1080p TV to attain this 300ppi, it has to be a 7 inch display, so by the time that is stretched to a 40 inch TV, it's no longer 300ppi.  I'm not an expert, that's the just answer I've been given.

 

Even then effects such as depth are not that simple to achieve.

FusionRain
FusionRain

 @jhcho2 Link me to 120fps? I want to see who claimed that. I've never heard Sony say the PS3 will do 1920x1080p with 120fps. Find me that and i'll believe you.Until then your on the BS.

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

With all due respect, all digital video is fixed in resolution, and therefore is fixed in size without pixel duplication technology (which looks terrible on bigger screens).  So, to see old movies at the best visual level, you have to show them at their native resolution, which is usually presented on large screens in a letterbox format.  Try running a regular DVD on a HDTV...or watching a low-def PPV on a HDTV...you get it stretched, clipped or letterboxed (your choice).  Having a bigger resolution TV means that the lower resolution stuff generally looks like crap or is presented in a visually distracting way.  I was asking questions that Sony should be asking of itself before launching a huge flop that no one but rich people will buy.  I say rich, because they'd need to have a new video resolution standard to take advantage of 4K resolution, and that would require me to get all my videos in the new format (if they even would be converted to the new format).  I only have ONE Blu-Ray movie....the rest are DVDs.  Why?  Because I have bills to pay, and replacing my movie collection is nearly dead last on my list of priorities.  Please don't confuse the readers.

rarson
rarson

 @Skulker87

 

Just because the games display in 4K doesn't mean they're actually rendered in 4K. Same goes with the PS2, the games are simply displaying at 1080i (and apparently there's a disc you can buy that enables that output for all PS2 games).

poopinpat
poopinpat

 @Skulker87  @brynhyfryd ^This is a good point.  Makes a lot of sense since not many will rush out and buy 4k tv's anytime soon with todays economy.

FollowY0urBliss
FollowY0urBliss

 @FusionRain  @jhcho2

 lol That's not even HALF of what Sony said the ps3 was going to be capable of. (Before launch.) I don't remember the specifics, but they said things like MULTIPLE hdmi ports, a buttload of usb ports, along with TONS of outlandish claims of what the ps3 would have and be capable of. They compared MS "shooting for the moon" and Sony "shooting for the sun" or something very similar. I don't have anything against Sony, don't get me wrong. But they definitely have a history of MAJORLY exaggerating what their consoles will have/do.

TheBlackEclipse
TheBlackEclipse

 @FusionRain  @jhcho2 Well I tried linking it but it didn't work. Search PS3 120 FPS on google and it's the first link. Sony Computer Entertainment's president said it.

BlueFlameBat
BlueFlameBat

 @NoelXYeul I know. That's not the point. Small text is small text. I had little trouble reading the text in Dead Rising when I actually put my face up close to the screen on my old 13"-15" tube television screen.

I doubt they'll make the text much smaller to go with higher resolution.

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

Some of us aren't as rich as you obviously are, you insensitive moron.  Maybe you can drop for a new TV every month, but I can't.  Try working for $8.50 an hour while having huge medical bills.  So why don't you show a little respect for those people less well off than yourself, imbecile.  My income is not nonsense.  It is what determines whether or not Sony gets my money, and when taken as an indicator of incomes throughout the gamer population, determines whether Sony makes a profit or has a huge flop on their hands.  And yeah, they're future-proofing their console...as in making sure the future will not be good for them.  Pushing new tech on legacy tech holders never works well.  They'll run a loss for several years at best (unless the TV and the console drops below $300 apiece).  And yes, I have a surge protector, and every time I lost a TV, the surge protector I had couldn't hold back all of the current.  No surge protector can.  And if you had any knowledge of science, you'd already know that.  You're good at trolling, but not so good at the facts.

Pi
Pi

 @VarietyMage LoL, what is wrong with you?  You know nothing of what you speak and complain about nonsense.

 

And you spent half a year's salary on a TV?  Well THAT was a bright idea, LoL.  As was not using a good surge protector.  And apparently you haven't learned from your mistake since it sounds as if you STILL aren't using one.  Geez.........

 

And finally, you complain about not being able to upgrade for 2-3 years.  Well the PS4 won't be coming out for at least a year, and there won't be any 4K games (or probably displays) for a year or two after that.  Not to mention you won't need a 4K display anyway, it ill just be an option.  4K won't be mainstream for quite a few years.......so you have nothing to worry about.  Sony is just future-proofing their console.

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

Actually, there is a very good reason to hold onto my old TV...and that is I do NOT feel like spending another $600 - $1000 just for one video game system.  Period.  And you know full well that when Sony comes out with both the TV and the console, they will require developers to code for the new display format.  As anyone knows who had a non-HDTV and a PS3 (especially playing Disgaea 3, etc), the video games will not put as much effort into making the low-res version playable.  I couldn't read the numbers and certain letters in Disgaea 3 on a standard TV, so I had to upgrade in order to play it effectively.  My TV got fried by a lightning strike that was too close to my house, and I didn't have a lot of non-HDTV choices, so I spent a lot more money than I wanted to - the Disgaea problem was a distant second in the decision process.  More than half a year of my income went into that TV - I'm lucky it hasn't been fried yet.Indeed, Sony may even dictate that it won't support old TVs.  They won the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD battle, didn't they?  They could just come up with HD-Blu-Ray, and force everyone to upgrade.  At least, the 20% or less of the country with that kind of disposable income.  I can't afford to upgrade, not for at least 2.5 years (when I have at least a small chance of getting a living-wage job with some disposable income in an industry that's actually hiring).So, I'm not supporting Sony's power play, and I'm fully against it without full backwards compatibility (and I mean completely readable displays and game emulation, unlike the later-model PS3s).  I may buy their game system, but I'm NOT buying another TV (nor re-buying PS1 / 2 / 3 games for the PS4).  I can't afford it.

rarson
rarson

 @VarietyMage

 

"Try running a regular DVD on a HDTV...or watching a low-def PPV on a HDTV...you get it stretched, clipped or letterboxed (your choice)."

 

The only way you're going to see letterboxing is if you're watching a non-16:9 ratio movie on a 16:9 TV (or vice versa). Upscaling a standard DVD doesn't crop, stretch, or letterbox the picture. You seem to be confusing resolution with aspect ratios. If you're seeing letterboxing on a standard DVD, it's probably because it's in an aspect ratio other than 16:9. Most widescreen movies are either 1.85:1 or 2.39:1. 1.85:1 is close to 16:9, but isn't quite the same. 2.39:1 is significantly wider. 4K has the exact same 16:9 aspect ratio as 1080p, it's just packing 4 times as many pixels in the same area (double horizontal, and double vertical).

 

I would agree that standard-def content should be viewed on standard-def displays, but if you have a decent upscaler, then there's no reason to hold onto an old TV when you could be getting a decent visual boost through upscaling. It won't look as good as a Blu-Ray disc, but it'll look better than on a standard player.

 

Sony is not the only one working towards 4K displays; other companies have already demonstrated them. That's just where TV technology is headed, much like where HDTVs were about 10 years ago. This article is talking about SUPPORT, not a requirement, so whether or not you have a 4K TV will not matter; you can still use your current HDTV. Sony just wants to support an upcoming format.

TheBlackEclipse
TheBlackEclipse

 @FusionRain  @FollowY0urBliss  @jhcho2 Taken From Wikipedia PS3 Page:"The initial prototype shown in May 2005 featured two HDMI ports, three Ethernet ports and six USB ports"

I imagine their thinking  was to have it connected to 2 TV's at once, Kinda like how people do with PC monitors now.

FusionRain
FusionRain

 @FollowY0urBliss  @jhcho2 Your gonna have to link me to multiple HDMI ports thing because there is no reason for that one. Also the PS3 did launch with a "buttload" of usb ports. It had 4 USB on front, a SD card reader, memory stick readers and other ports. Did you really forget that stuff, because I didn't. That claims of "shooting for the sun" is just how ambitious they were. Those quotes mean nothing but how much they were trying to say it's the next best thing. Like I said your gonna have to link me to those claims. Sony them self had big hopes for the console but they never claimed it can do anything other than what they "want" it to be able to do. Plus what other history are you talking about, if you don't mind explaining that?

FusionRain
FusionRain

 @TheBlackEclipse  @jhcho2 Ah, that. Ken is a really hopeful guy and very ambitious. He was so excited for the new 120ghz T.V back then that he said he expects the PS3 to fully utilize it. He never said the PS3 can run games at 1080p on 120fps he was just hoping. He was  wrong but no one lied about anything,