Persona director teases multiple titles in development

Announcement of titles postponed due to recent bankruptcy of parent company Index Corporation.

Persona 3 and Persona 4 director Katsura Hashino says that Atlus has multiple unannounced titles in the works.

Thanks to financial issues, that Persona 5 announcement will have to wait.

According to a Japanese blog post on the Atlus site (via Dualshockers), the company could not make any announcement on the titles because of the bankruptcy of parent company Index Corporation. "As next year is the 25th anniversary of the Atlus brand, there were a few things we wanted to announce, but we need you to wait a little longer. All of the unannounced titles we’re still wrestling with are currently under 'earnest development'," Hashino said.

"We’re just trying to figure out how to further better them. While we’ve been spending our busy days full of challenges, we'll do our best to work heartily and not break concentration!"

Previously, Hashino confirmed that Persona 5 has been in the works since 2010. Bidding for Index Corporation topped out at 20 billion yen ($2 billion), with one of the bidders being Sega Sammy Holdings.

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86 comments
Gargus
Gargus

Come on persona 5 for Ps3.

Id love to see it on PS4 but I doubt that will happen considering given the series style it would be overkill on the hardware to say the least.

Hopefully we will get something new from them as well. Catherine was a breath of fresh air for me from that team, I hope they do something else unique.

avatarIVN
avatarIVN

I became a fan of the Persona series since the Persona 4 the Animation. Now I can't wait for the experience of a Persona game on my PS3. 

IllegallyAwesum
IllegallyAwesum

I love the Etrian Odyssey games, but i'm afraid they might get cut. If Persona and Shin Megami Tensei are niche titles, then Etrian Oddyssy is SUPER niche.

lime_93
lime_93

I love Atlus not just for Persona. I would love to have a new numbered SMT game for consoles that isn't Persona. I'm still playing Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga today. Let's not forget about the greatness (imo) that is Catherine.

EDFXNights
EDFXNights

ATLUS Release PERSONA 5 for PS3/PS4 and VITA and i'll Buy them all! I love the Persona 3 and 4 and i can't wait for 5. You will make Millions!

And then obviously take your time making it... though i can't wait... i also want it to be perfect :)

Rizer
Rizer

Atlus is in a time of craziness but I still am holding out hope for a Persona 5.

telaros
telaros

I'm mostly worried about the Etrian series and well... just everything Altus.

I don't trust SEGA in allowing them to do as they pleased as they mostly did with Index. And god forbid Disney or EA eats up Atlus. That'll damn well kill the company.

I guess SEGA is the safest bet, so long as they don't try and force Atlus to make games for just Nintendo. Square Enix would just steal their ideas and aren't financially stable anyways.

If anything, maybe, Namco Bandai? No idea how that would effect things.

Atlus to good home! Is well trained and loves making good games!
Please treat well!

Cappuccin0
Cappuccin0

As long as Atlus doesn't die, all's right with me.

Cheddarchet
Cheddarchet

How much longer until we find out who wins the bidding war for Atlus, anyway? Feels like we've been waiting a painfully long time... 

hadlee73
hadlee73

If Atlus does end up in the hands of another company here's hoping they actually start distributing games in the Oceanic market. They're getting almost as bad as XSEED for lack of support in this area.

skytrot
skytrot

If Sega doesn't get Atlus then the next best fit for them would be Kadokawa games. Lots of money and willing to publish games catered to mature audiences. They already purchased Grasshopper Manufacture.

kiramasaki
kiramasaki

Look I like Atlus but they have been a joke this generation. We got a handful of handhelds, Catherine Persona Arena, and they published a few d level titles and that is it. During the ps2 era this company was like a god among men, and now I don't know what. Cal me when they plan to actually release some console games.

WeWerePirates
WeWerePirates

Just temper your expectation folks. He may be Persona team but he's saying Atlus has multiple un-anounced titles to reveal, they may not include any more information on Persona 5 or any other Persona game.

That said I really want to know what the deal is with the 3DS Persona game, is it still happening? Is it a remake or a new game?

GothicWar
GothicWar

You know what this means people, Persona 5 has got to be coming out next year. Persona 5 is something I been looking forward to for awhile, plus with more games in the works I can see next year is going to be awesome for Atlus.

SilentAssassin
SilentAssassin

It sucks that awesome games are held back by financial issues!!! Persona, Devil Survivor and all those games are great games.  Can't wait to play the new games, atleast they're not getting cancelled just pushed back.

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

Sony or Namco Bandai would be the best match for Atlus. I can even see Konami getting in there since they have no RPGs to speak of these days (what happened to Suikoden) and could use Atlus in that department.  

krystyla
krystyla

Microsoft should by ATLUS and strike a deal with mistwalker to make exclusives again and get namco to localize for them as well, then I wouldnt need to buy both systems.


Well namco and atlus are so slow I will have 1 or 2 years until the need arises anyway

Halloll
Halloll

if you see Square Enix or Capcom, then start running.

canuckbiker
canuckbiker

Yes. Good news. In addition to persona 5, I would love them announcing demon's souls 2 for ps4.

Prats1993
Prats1993

Lets hope Nintendo buys Atlus.

Bhemont
Bhemont

They should try starting a kickstarter to be honest, I'm sure it would help with their development.  

nocoolnamejim
nocoolnamejim moderator

I'm a little curious about all the Sega love I'm seeing in the early comments. I'm hard pressed to think of any truly stellar games they've put out in recent years. They wouldn't be among my top choices for acquiring Atlus because of that reason.

MAXAM999
MAXAM999

@telaros Remember Bayonetta ..Goosh i don't want this to happen again , especially on Persona !

Bellum_Sacrum
Bellum_Sacrum

@Xristophoros Sony? So they can ruin the ATLUS properties by forever burying them until another PLaystation All Star Battlle happens?

DanielL5583
DanielL5583

@krystyla No.

 Atlus is Japanese, but Microsoft is American. Why does this matter?

Microsoft's hardware sales in Japan are poor...very poor. So much so that some retailers refuse to stock Xbox 360s anymore because they were losing them money more than they were gaining.

And the games that were released on there sold poorly anyway, and some even had ports to other systems, such as Steins;Gate.

Japanese games on the Xbox 360 that were released over here also do rather poorly, especially those that are released on the PS3 as well, with examples being Persona 4 Arena, BlazBlue: Continuum Shift, and Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance...though the latter doesn't really count, because it was cancelled of its Xbox release in Japan.

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@krystyla Are you joking? No Microsoft consoles have sold well in Japan and all of Mistwalkers games BOMBED. Seeing as Atlus is a Japanese company, that would never happen. All the Atlus fans are either on Sony or Nintendo platforms (but mostly Sony platforms). Micrsooft's user base is mainly made up of people who run to FPS games. You obviously don't know the demogrpahic you're talking about it. 

swyg
swyg

@Halloll There are far worse companies that could take Atlus, jeez.  Actually Atlus would do well with SE.

kitty
kitty moderator moderator

@Prats1993 I'd rather have sega buy atlus than nintendo

pedroabperneta
pedroabperneta

@Prats1993 i dont understand why u guys take the satisfaction of seeing ppl of other platforms loose access to the games they usually had access. And dont even try to say that then naughty dog should be on all platforms because they never made a game on any other one. Keep satisfied with how u already got bayonetta from us...

skytrot
skytrot

@nocoolnamejim Published MadWorld, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Anarchy Reigns, Resonance of Fate, Valkyria Chronicles. Sega has been one of the few publishers pushing out new IP unlike some.

WeWerePirates
WeWerePirates

@nocoolnamejim Given Sega's recent track record on localising anyone who doesn't understand Japanese shouldn't be cheering for them.

Bhemont
Bhemont

@nocoolnamejim And they haven't put out any "stellar games" out in recent years? Lol, where have you been, never heard of TW?

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@Bellum_Sacrum Any fan of JRPGS knows very well that the best games have always been on Sony platforms. Not sure if you're joking around or not, but rest assured, Playstation All Stars is not coming back anytime soon. It sold badly and they closed down the developer. 

krystyla
krystyla

@DanielL5583 @krystyla Well jrpgs arent really pushed nor advertised in the west. They are localized sometimes more than a year after japan release. They should opt for more global releases like Finfal Fantasy and Metal Gear series.

krystyla
krystyla

@Xristophoros @krystyla Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon did not bomb they performed as expected. Lost Odyssey even sold more in the west than in the east.

I never said it would be wise I only said that I would like that.

Def-Trex
Def-Trex

@pedroabperneta @Prats1993 actually Naughty Dog made games for the Sega Genesis and Panasonic 3D0.I wouldn't mind Atlus being boutght by Nintendo, seeing as most of their games are released on Nintendo platforms, the ones they develop anyway.

nocoolnamejim
nocoolnamejim moderator

@Bhemont@nocoolnamejim 

Ah yes, the Total War series. Knew I was forgetting something. Valkyria Chronicles would be a better RPG type example. It is, however, telling that they banished Valkyria Chronicles 2 to the PSP despite the success of VC1 and VC2 was a much worse game. And, when you get right down to it, all of those games are more strategy than RPG.

Basically, beyond Total War and VC1, Sega has a long list of mediocre to outright bad games in recent years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

Developers/Publishers that I would rather have buy Atlus instead of Sega if they cannot remain independent include:

CD Projekt Red (Would absolutely love this choice.)

Level 5

Sony

2K

Rockstar

Obsidian

MAYBE Bethesda if they'd remain hands off.

Valve

Naughty Dog

I'd be pretty disappointed if anyone else got their hands on Atlus.

DanielL5583
DanielL5583

@krystyla @DanielL5583 But some publishers in Japan don't have much interest in localising their games to foreign markets. In fact, Atlus don't directly publish titles in Europe; it goes through another party, like Koei or Ghostlight.

It's part of what makes Japan Japan; they're a xenophobic island nation, pretty much.

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@krystyla Fair enough. Hopefully more games will come to the Vita in the future. There should be some announcements at TGS this year. The DS and PSP have a solid library. I am still catching up on games even at this point in time. The 3DS isn't the greatest in terms of the hardware design (and missing a right analog stick) but it's not too bad in my opinion.   

krystyla
krystyla

@Xristophoros @krystyla well I have all but ps4 and ds. Sadly I dont like the hardware of the 3ds and the Vita has a crappy library and was pretty much written of by sony already

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@krystyla Blue Dragon sold less than a million copies worldwide and only 200,000 in Japan. It got mixed reviews all around as well. Same story with Lost Odyssey. If you are a real fan of JRPGS, please get yourself a PS3/PS4/VITA/PSP or even a DS/3DS. 

Def-Trex
Def-Trex

@pedroabperneta I just hope they don't get bought out by Sony.Don't really want to have to buy a PS4 to play the games.I would rather they keep developing for current gen because I have a Ps3.I hope they keep supporting the 3Ds because the games have been really good and Etrian Odyssey Untold is supposed to release in October I think.I also want to see Fire Emblemx Shin megami Tensei get released because that sounds amazing.

pedroabperneta
pedroabperneta

@Def-Trex @pedroabperneta @Prats1993 yah sorry last of us isnt on your current Sega or Panasonic console then. The main triple A console games atlus does were on sony platforms , sure they havent made them for a while with the exception of catherine but it would be better they would stay multiplatform and not piss on some of their fanbase

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@Bhemont @nocoolnamejim That will only happen if Nintendo or Sony buys Atlus. To me, that seems unlikely but you never know. If Nintendo buys them, I won't be happy one bit. It will force me to buy a WiiU.

Bhemont
Bhemont

@nocoolnamejim @Bhemont Hmm, I can agree with some of these publishers.  I would just hate to see them making game exclusive to 1 console.  I'd be forced to buy yet another one. :(

Xristophoros
Xristophoros

@nocoolnamejim @II_Exile_II Your statement doesn't make sense. Not only did you list developers (and not publishers), but you listed AMERICAN developers. The company that buys out Atlus will be Japanese, that much is certain. An American company wouldn't understand the culture and context of the games Atlus develops. The only plausible names on your list are Level 5 and Sony, both which I agree with. 

nocoolnamejim
nocoolnamejim moderator

@II_Exile_II  

I'm aware of the typical dynamic between publishers and developers. I'm also aware of the Japanese centric nature of Atlus' audience, though I think you overstate it a bit because most of their games enjoy good popularity in the west as well.

The list of developers and publishers that I listed aren't intended to be taken as LIKELY companies to acquire Atlus, but merely ones that I would prefer to Sega for various reasons.

My concern with Sega acquiring Atlus is that, flat out, they don't seem to have a great many exceptional franchises that last through many title iterations. (See my link and sort by release date.) 

They're a big "name" publisher, but don't seem to have good instincts on which projects to greenlight and which ones to pass on. If their track record of handling external studios was as good as you say, I would think that they'd have more successful franchises other than just Total War to their credit in the last decade or so.

I don't necessarily feel that a big budget developer or publisher acquiring Atlus and devoting more resources to putting out new games on better hardware would inherently be a bad thing provided that the core elements that make the Atlus games so good remained in place.

Your main point of Atlus needing to be left largely along by anyone that would acquire them is a sound one, but that isn't the sole criteria.

II_Exile_II
II_Exile_II

@nocoolnamejim @Bhemont 

You don't seem to understand the developer/publisher relationship at all. For one, the majority of the companies you listed are developers, not publishers. Most of those developers are they themselves owned by publishers, so even if developers ever bought other developers (which they don't), these specific ones wouldn't anyway, their publishers would.

Secondly, this whole argument is not a game design decision, it's a business one. Just because you like the Witcher, GTA, and Skyrim doesn't mean any of those companies would be a good fit to purchase Atlus. Even if someone like Naughty Dog were in any sort of position to buy Atlus (they're not), that wouldn't mean Persona 5 would full of motion capture and cinematic set pieces. Atlus caters to a very specific audience, and any potential buyers are likely interested because of this. With their large emphasis on controlled development budgets, catering to a very Japanese centric audience, and releasing games on last gen hardware, almost none of the primarily big budget western companies you listed would have any interest in Atlus.

Finally, to address your initial point, you ask "why are people so excited Sega might buy Atlus?"There are many good reasons, but I'll tell you why I think they would be a good fit. Primarily, Sega has proven to have a decent track record in terms of treating acquired studios well and allowing them to do what they need to. Studios like Creative Assembly and Relic were purchased by Sega and have continued to remain intact and release quality titles, this is a good sign for a future developers Sega acquires.

In terms of RPG track record, a topic you brought up. Sega's track record with RPGs is irrelevant. They won't be making the games, Atlus will, and their RPG track record is excellent.  The only track record of Sega's that should be a concern in this matter is their handling of external studios, which has been good.