Pelosi: singling out games in gun violence debate unfair

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi says a "comprehensive" effort is needed to get to the root of gun violence in the United States.

House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) believes singling out violent video games in the ongoing gun violence debate in the United States is unfair. Speaking on Fox News Sunday, Pelosi said a "comprehensive" effort is needed reduce gun violence in the country, with additional research into the effects of violent games just one part of that drive.

Interviewer Chris Wallace asked Pelosi, "You have a lot of friends in Hollywood. Why don't you go to them and publicly say, 'I challenge you to stop the video games'?" Pelsoi said she understands this position, but noted there may not be a direct connection between violent games and real-world violence.

"I understand what you're saying. I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother," Pelosi said. "The evidence says, in Japan for example, they have the most violent games and the lowest mortality from guns. I don't know what the explanation is for that, except that they might have good gun laws."

She criticized Wallace for harping on only "one piece" of the overall issue at play. Pelosi said she hopes to see a ban on future sales of assault weapons and increased capacity magazines. She also said she advocates for background checks and stands by a citizen's right to own a weapon.

Ultimately, Pelosi said "we have to do it all" if gun violence is to be reduced in the country, which includes the further examination of violent games.

"I think we have to do it all. We have to take a look at these games are," Pelosi said. "I don't think we should do anything anecdotally. We have a saying here: the plural of anecdote is not data. And so we want to know: what is the evidence? What will really make a difference here? And I think it has to be comprehensive."

Pelosi's comments follow President Obama's announcement of a new $500 million, 23-point plan, which calls on Congress to allocate $10 million to allow the Centers for Disease Control to conduct further research into the relationship between game violence and real-world violence.

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Codebreaker-X
Codebreaker-X

"The evidence says, in Japan for example, they have the most violent games and the lowest mortality from guns. I don't know what the explanation is for that, except that they might have good gun laws."

 You hear that NRA? As a so-called "champion of the second amendment"; which you obviously aren't, you too have to take responsibility for the epidemic of violence in our nation/

timoteo2k1
timoteo2k1

Actually, the logic fail comes in when you begin to remove the rights to the media or property they want from 330 million people because you fail to treat the tiny percentage of a percentage that are criminally insane, too insane to see they are dangerous.


Much like Obamacare, you remove the economic rights of 230 years and force an entire nation into rationing and burdensome taxation, you force people into care they neither desire or need to serve the tiny percentage that want govt healthcare and can't afford it.


Logic would say you find a way to provide coverage for those who want it and treatment for those who need it and are a threat to others- instead of hastily stripping hundreds of millions of completely innocent people of their rights due to a made up crisis.

timoteo2k1
timoteo2k1

Well, as a gun owner for twenty years, the only person i've ever sold a gun to is one of a very small circle of friends, each of whom I known for more than 10 years and know they are neither felons or unstable. so I'm not sure where your mythical dumping of firearms on anyone whom i want comes from.


However, the simple answer to your registry question is this, registries are always a prelude to confiscation and "shall not be infringed" seems pretty concrete.

bannermanner
bannermanner

I think it's hysterical that people automatically peg her as a reasonable, rational politician because of this.  Nancy Pelosi is not someone I want on my side.

DreamsofGreen
DreamsofGreen

Line 4 "is needed reduce gun violence in the country"

needed to*

Ledah
Ledah

That's the problem, U.S gun laws are one of the most crazy things out there and it is creating small conflicts of violence that sometimes get out of control and that is when massacres like these happens.

Hurvl
Hurvl

"Japan for example...the lowest mortality from guns...they might have good gun laws" Oh, she really hit the nail there! I'm surprised and even baffled that a US politician can actually make that connection, that gun laws can affect the amount of people getting killed by guns. It always seems to be something completely different behind shootings, like mind warping media e.g. movies/video games.

BloodGod65
BloodGod65

"Interviewer Chris Wallace asked Pelosi, "You have a lot of friends in Hollywood. Why don't you go to them and publicly say, 'I challenge you to stop the video games'?" 

Because Hollywood is where all the games are made... LOL

BlueFlameBat
BlueFlameBat

Fair enough, though I can't help suspecting there are people who will try to somehow spin this into making it seem like Pelosi wants to ban video games. Expect phrases like "I think we have to do it all. We have to take a look at these games are," to be taken out of context. You've been warned.

judahstarguy
judahstarguy

"And the love of many shall wax cold"  Jesus answering the disciples question concerning the end of days.  It's only just the beginning.  The heart of the matter is a matter of the heart not an object or more specifically, guns.

Anamon
Anamon

"We have a saying here: the plural of anecdote is not data."

I think you can divide the people working at Fox News into two groups: those who are not intelligent enough to understand what the saying means, and those who know that it's exactly what Fox News lives off.

MatrixGamer78
MatrixGamer78

The best line "I don't know what the explanation is for that, except that they might have good gun laws."

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

for the most part i agree with here except she said there might be a link between real life and gaming violence there is most definitely not a link there. i have played violent games from a young age and i certainly don't want to do any of the violent acts in these games in real life some of the things would be horriable if done for real and i would have no interest in seeing them done in real life but in the gaming fantasy world anything goes and i won't have a problem with it because it is not real. if video games were responsible for real life violence what was hilters excuse and going further back into our history army's marching and with the goal of conquest. violence is in all of us and people are responsible for there own actions so please stop giving bad people scapegoats people. before video games they would blame movies and before movies it was music. think there was even a time when books got the blame.

KaptajnKnap
KaptajnKnap

Jesus, they's a few missing words in this article. But I like that old hag, she seems fair. Go her..!

owentheomen
owentheomen

I loved the video I believe crime is going down, were becoming are more educated world and with that crime goes down, hopefully lol or people are just getting better at it LOL!

BoSnerdly
BoSnerdly

Until a guy shot up a bunch of children, "gun violence" in America wasn't a "crisis". The politicians, especially the ones who spend endlessly like Pelosi, are just avoiding the very real fiscal crisis. I think Pelosi and her gang are guilty of creating a "budget violence crisis"!

turnerdoc
turnerdoc

true anyone see mike moores bowling for columbine

ogremalfeitor
ogremalfeitor

For crying out loud... I don't live in America and we play the exactly same games here, watch the same movies and shows, completely uncensored. Same thing for most 1st world countries. And guess what... most massive shoot-outs happen in America!

Why's that? Is it because we have less wackos outside America? Let me assure you it's not, we have plenty crazy people here, and plenty of illegal guns too despite authorities efforts... but in the end, much less wackos with guns in their hands.

The only difference I see is LACK OF GUN CONTROL in America when compared to other countries. Having a "constitutional right" for every joe to wear guns is clearly a bad idea, and the statistics show it. You only don't see it if you don't want it...

The_Gaming_Baby
The_Gaming_Baby

No one blamed the disgruntled postal workers who went on mass shootings for being influenced by video games, so why are they now? Because they're students? Hogwash I tell you! The average age of a gamer is over 30 years old. Get a grip

AlexFili
AlexFili

News stories always focus on "this game made this person a killer", but nobody ever says "24 made me torture people and plant bombs" or "James Bond makes me want to shoot people and drive really fast". There is clearly a fundamental difference between being inspired by something and becoming obsessed by something.

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

This is not even worth debating anymore. The whole western world is thinking: Look at those hypocrite americans.   

The 2nd amendment is old, outdated, oblosete.  It needs to be changed. Because its just not fit for a modern western society.

Verenti
Verenti

@bannermanner At least she's not just making things up, so she can swoop in and save hysterical soccer moms from some conjured terror.

Anamon
Anamon

@jtthegame316 Examples of people who aren't affected are no argument against there being a link. There is most definitely a "link". The point is, it's usually not a cause, but a symptom. Meaning that while games probably don't make non-violent people become violent, it's very likely that people who are violent also like to play violent video games. That's what all those news people and polemics don't get: that just because two things correlate, there doesn't have to be a cause-and-effect relation. By their logic, water makes you violent because every killer in history drank water. A very simple logic fallacy that I don't think fools anyone with an IQ above room temperature, but that doesn't stop them from spouting their nonsense...

MXVIII
MXVIII

@ogremalfeitor  In Arizona, the crime rate is incredibly low, no mass shootings at all, and its an open carry state. Everyone there has a gun. So the argument can be made on both sides.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@brainiac1988  Every man between the ages of 20 and 34 are required to own automatic weapons in their home by the Swiss Government. Our law doesnt require anyone to own a weapon.

bannermanner
bannermanner

@Verenti @bannermanner Not really sure how to respond to that, because I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.

But you're flying Lannister colors, so you're automatically cool with me.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

@MXVIII @ogremalfeitor if everyone carries a gun in your state that only makes it more likely that a mass shooting will happen. if you don't in tend on killing some one or something you really have no need for a gun

oria
oria

@MXVIII @ogremalfeitor Uh, the Tucson shooting of congresswoman Gifford?

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@MXVIIIFirst, Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training.

Second, Switzerland doesnt have ghettos, poverty, high crime rates. Drug problems, Highly dense populated areas.   SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.
 

I stand by my statement

Verenti
Verenti

@bannermanner @Verenti I mean that this whole hysteria surrounding games as a source of gun violence is completely manufactured, and these politicians who she is effectively speaking out against, don't have a shred of evidence to support their arguments. I'm not implying that you agree with this practice, but despite whatever you think of Ms. Pelosi (I'm not American, so I couldn't care less about her), she is at least is telling them that they are full of shit, unlike the politician from California.

gohangeorge
gohangeorge

@Suikogaiden Everything any major media outlet puts out is smoke and mirrors. Singling out a political faction won't change that.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@jtthegame316 @MXVIII @ogremalfeitor   No mass shootings, and a low crime rate since Arizona has been a state, seems to indicate otherwise. Most people who own guns, DO intend to kill something or someone. So they have need of them.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@oria  That wasnt a mass shooting, that was an assassination attempt.

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@MXVIII   Ok granted.   But this proves that everywhere where there are guns there will be events like this..  Theres a lot of nut cases in society.

And saying:  "lets give everyone a gun so they can protect themselves"   will not cause these things to stop.  It will only increase.   More guns = more murders...

I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine.

And If you'll excuse me, I have to go to work now.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@brainiac1988 @MXVIII  We already established that mass shootings in our country is already rare. Only 3 schools, and one movie theater, in the whole 300 year history of our nation. Guns will also be very easily accessible in our country, despite the law, already criminals buy their guns from the black market, because when you buy them legitimately they are registered to you. So making a law banning weapons will do NOTHING to keep them out of the hands of criminals

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@solidus2_1  I didnt.. that was MXVIII.    There are no examples like that in my country.  Cant think of any mass shootings. Here.  

And sorry for my typo ;)

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@MXVIIIMy point is that if those guns were not so easily accessible (because of laws),  criminals would not be able to get them so easily dude...  Do you know how RARE it is in my country if someone owns a gun?  Very few people have the right connections to get one. So Less shootings, Less murders.  

Of course there will alweays be crazy fucks like that dude it norweigh....

solidus2_1
solidus2_1

@brainiac1988 @solidus2_1 oops my bad when I was typing it out i read your post where you put the netherlands down and i accidenlty typed it out, and if your from the netherlands then why are you using sweden as an example rather then netherlands. Also its spelled norway

solidus2_1
solidus2_1

@brainiac1988 @MXVIII tell that to the 69 people shot and killed mostly teens at summer camp in the netherlands a few years back or that school in russia where that militant group killed several hundred people

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@solidus2_1  @MXVIII   Yes.  Crime rates as a percentage can always be compared, no matter how many inhabitants there are.

Corruption, Corruption, Theft and Crime are pretty much non-existent in Switzerland

MXVIII
MXVIII

@brainiac1988 @MXVIII Gun free zone does not mean no guns. Criminals dont obey laws. Guns just wont go poof just because the law says people cant have them. All your going to do is create organized crime, Just like in Japan, and even England. You think England doesnt have guns? OR Japan? You bet your ass they do. But sure, lets take guns right out of the hands of the common people, and put them into the hands of criminals.

solidus2_1
solidus2_1

@brainiac1988 @MXVIII ok for one the U.S. as of 2012 has a population of 313,914,040 while switzerland as of july 2011 has a population of 7,655,628 so thats a 306,258,412 population difference between the 2 countries and you 2 are really going try to compare the crime rate difference between them?

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@MXVIIIbro..  They will stop if there are no more guns in the hands of the common people. 

No guns = no shootings.  Thats my point.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@brainiac1988  Yeah I do see the irony, So what happens when the whole country is a gun free zone, think the shootings will stop? You literally just lost your own argument

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

@MXVIII  No they took place in "Gun free zones"... see the irony?

Think what you will..  The whole western world says you guys are wrong about the gun ownership thing. 

On a side note:  I think America is a great nation and I hope to visit it some day.

Peace! (from the Netherlands)

MXVIII
MXVIII

@brainiac1988 @MXVIII  We've only had 3 school shootings in our countries 300 year history. I stand by my statement. Also none of those shootings took place in an area with HIGH crime rates.