OnLive partners with BT in UK

Telecom giant takes 2.6 percent share in the cloud gaming company and exclusive rights to broadband bundles in Britain; other European plans teased.

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OnLive has partnered with UK telecom company BT to bring its streaming service to the UK, the cloud gaming firm announced today. The service will be making its way to Europe via PC, Mac, and the OnLive MicroConsole. However, the company did not reveal a launch or pricing system for the service, which debuts in the US for $15 per month on June 17. Details on a UK beta will be available this summer after the full service launches in the US, where a beta has been running since last September.

OnLive will be coming to the UK soon.

As part of the deal, BT has taken a 2.6 percent share in OnLive, giving the telecom giant exclusive rights to bundle the service in its broadband packages. Those not using BT will be able to order the service direct from OnLive for use with their own ISPs. Gamers using OnLive in the UK and Europe will be able to take part in multiplayer matches together, though they will not be able to play against their US counterparts. However, the company says community features, such as chat, profiles, and brag clips, will work globally.

On the company's blog, OnLive CEO Steve Perlman revealed that a test site has been operating in the UK since 2009 from a BT data centre in Wales. The service has been tested in such countries as Italy, Scandinavia, and Spain. The company said it was pleased with the results of these tests, but it has not published the data relating to them.

Since its debut at the 2009 Game Developers Conference, OnLive has been praised by analysts who marked its arrival as "the beginning of the end" for games retail. This enthusiasm has been backed up by companies such as AT&T and Warner Brothers, who have invested heavily in the company. The service will distribute games from publishers like Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Take-Two, Warner Bros. Interactive, THQ, Epic Games, Eidos, Atari Interactive, and Codemasters alongside their retail launches.

Discussion

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OmenIWF
OmenIWF

Not sure if I will be bothered with this, to be honest owning a PS3, which gets used but not that frequently, has stopped me getting a 360 as would be a expense for something I would hardly use which is just how I see this. The problem with this concept is as people have mentioned the inability to play with people on different continents, but also the fact that ou are playing console game son a PC. Yes they may look just as good, maybe better (who is to say at this very early stage), but you won't have the same gameplay experience. I can not see this being a replacement for consoles, but maybe more a nice filler for those who prefer to game on a pc/mac and maybe sometimes miss out on certain console titles.

_karttu_
_karttu_

Scandinavia is not a country.

Gen-Gawl
Gen-Gawl

I would like to see the monthly fee be a bit more but have rentals included. Then it would be comparable to GF. Otherwise it's be like going back to the old blockbuster days with per item rentals for movies and games.

liam82517
liam82517

@hannify Unfortunatly while virgin media offer the Greatest speed very few people ever see it. It seems Virgin has gone the way of BT and is screwing over most customers (from what Ive read anyway) and hasnt put any really money into expanding its operational areas. In fact where I live has been promised Cable for at least as long as Ive lived here which is over 7 years. The only reason I mentioned O2 is from personal experience of having a 16mb line and never having any slow down at any time of day or night and most importantly it is actually unlimited unlike other that say unlimited with the little star next to it. Oh and I get all that for £10 a month. One other selling point is that my router went bust a few months ago called them up and its NOT an indian call centre it was a local guy and he got me a new router sent out the same day. However I would say all of this is mute as I dont see OnLive changing the way people play games today anyway, for example MMOs are pretty much the same deal where you have to connect to the internet to play but what happens if they bring down the servers for Maintenance? no gaming. Sorry but I want my 360 or ps3 or wii whatever your console of choice is so that Im not bound by my internet connection and their server status. Just my 2 cents.

liljoe253
liljoe253

What people seem to be saying is that the Onlive is going to fail or sucks, etc. WRONG. Onlive in my eyes is the same thing as the Ipad. I personally think the ipad is stupid as is Onlive. But there will always be people who have the money to pay $15 a month and not hurt there wallet. There will be people who will but it to se what its like, and or theres is going to be people who like the concept. The Ipad is very similar to the Ipad and stupid in my opinon, but many people bought it. Same thing is going to happen with Onlive it mabye stupid but it is going to revoulize gaming we like it or not. Just like the Redbox because of Redbox and netflix all of the local hollywood video are going out of buissines Machincery and computers are one day going to rule the world!

grungeman91
grungeman91

@jpsaply Thanks for agreeing with me and I watched that Youtube video link you posted, but still I won't be buying it, Cause I hate digital downloads on consoles as it is and I would prefer to have a disc and case in hand and if OnLive is the future of gaming, We've been screwed.

jpsaply
jpsaply

@grungeman91 "PC gaming is far too expensive nowadays for a game to run at it's full potential." _______________ You misunderstood how it works. You will be able to play the games on a low end system since its not using any of the resources from it. All graphics and other resources that games use will all be rendered on the Onlive servers and will be delivering the game at its full potential. Check out the video link I posted about 18 posts down. I do agree that it sucks that you cant play against people across the oceans and that you have to be within a 1000 miles to the onlive servers to get the 81 ms or less response time. But maybe in the future with how fast advanced technology is coming along they will be able to do that.

grungeman91
grungeman91

It's kinda of stupid that you can't play against people from across the pond or anyone else in the world, I certainly have a strong distaste for OnLive, this thing won't make it with consoles being the main target and PC gaming is far too expensive nowadays for a game to run at it's full potential.

KrazzyDJ
KrazzyDJ

Soon, we're going to need new consoles. Maybe OnLive will help usher in that need (though it's useless for people like me who stay in India and have to struggle to get a 1-2 mbps connection; am currently using a 512 kbps one) !!!

jpsaply
jpsaply

I have to agree with GDNLJB1 on the part of everything one day will go completely to digital downloads. PC games have already started heading that way. Look at Direct2Drive.com and Steam. Even major publishers and developers are allowing some games to be bought directly from there website for digital downloads. The 360 and PS3 are already putting some of the console titles for download through there own online services. Will we see it all go to digital downloads soon? Probably not, due to that there is still many areas that dont have broadband access and allot that dont have the high-bandwidth needed for fast downloads to make it worth it. But as the network infrastructure and technology keep growing and becoming more accessible one day we will be telling our kids about these things called CDs and they will respond with, "Oh! You mean those round things they have shown on the Antiques Roadshow?"

GDNLJB1
GDNLJB1

@ Inconnux "Onlive is going to be one of the biggest financial disasters in video game history... I don't know ONE person who wants this service." I agree it will fail; but the consumer will get the same thing in the future from MS, Nintendo or Sony. Whether we want it or not physical copies of games are going extinct - you can bank on that one guys. Just like the online services for free; first MS pioneered charging for online and now we have Nintendo and Sony hinting at doing the same. Too many companies are losing money. Over 50% of the sales price of a game goes towards non-value added costs - like manufacturing the disk, retailer fees, piracy and used games sales. Complete online distribution of games is a foregone conclusion.

Inconnux
Inconnux

Onlive is going to be one of the biggest financial disasters in video game history... I don't know ONE person who wants this service.

GDNLJB1
GDNLJB1

I just watched the youtube on OnLive - very cool and impressive technology. However, the biggest downfall I see is that peripherals (e.g. PS move, Natal, wiimote, etc) are not possible as they will require customer hardware to function. The beauty about console is that they create standards for a developer, and more recently new controller standard - as opposed to graphics chips - which are now become the old/secondary standard. Evolution of hardware is why OnLive will fail - yes, they will be able to give you the best graphics (as they claim to update the servers every 6 months) but a "seeing eye" ala Natal, or the Wiimote or Move or most importantly what comes NEXT - this system (OnLive) will not be able to do. Onlive is attractive because it represents a potential for great profits for game developers - you eliminate the used game market and the middle man in one fell swoop. What will work though is if MS, Sony of Nintendo use a hybrid of the OnLive technology with their next console - we have seen hits as they are now releasing full games for download. My personal feeling is that MS, Sony and Nintendo are all hesitant to release the next console as the industry is evolving (in another state of transition) and no one is quite sure were to make the next big bet - be it 3D, newer controls, etc. Till someone steps up they are each going to experiment with their current systems (Natal, Move).

Ladiesman17
Ladiesman17

If this happens physical products such as 360 & PS3 will become smoke!! LoL ;)

Dark_Arkitect
Dark_Arkitect

I'm gonna go ahead and act like this doesn't exist.This is NOT the future of gaming.

wwonka666
wwonka666

I got an invite to the beta but wasn't able to take advantage of it because my computer had to be hardwired and my router isn't near my computer : (

fester420
fester420

If I am not able to download the entire game and play it anytime, i'll pass. I hate the idea of NEEDING to be online to play a game, I should have a choice.

gamerpipe
gamerpipe

I think that's WoMBaL = Waste of money, bandwidth and lag. decent console price: $300, buy it and you have physical control, the game plays on the console and only minimum data uses bandwidth needed for multi-play not single-play.

Zloth2
Zloth2

Still watching this thing like a hawk. There are a lot of plusses to this (no pirates, no expensive hardware, insanely fast load times, no save games lost to hard drive crash) and there are lots of minuses (needs fast connection, low rez video, compression artifacts, most game mods won't work). If people decide to concentrate on the negatives, it will fail bad. If they concentrate on the positives, it could turn the entire industry upside down. This whole thing could rise or fall based on mob psychology.

liam82517
liam82517

just ashame BT are probably one of the worst ISPs in the UK. Terrible traffic shapping, monthly allowence of 40GB a month down AND up. They should have gone with O2 or some over LLU operator.

Crocodile3
Crocodile3

This is going to be the future. Investment in Hardware at the supplier end is always going to be more cost effective than producing increasingly complex devices for home use. Fast broadband is essential, but infrastructure investments will be hard to find without government support. What do you think our governments will choose, reduce national deficit, reduce carbon emissions, or invest in super fast broadband access? Anyway none of this matters. The world is going to end in 2012, I just hope I get to play Mass Effect 3 before the end....... Anyone who uses the word 'Fail' in their posts is a muppet!!!!

GaMeR_Willz
GaMeR_Willz

For this service, BT will have to prepare by installing fibre optic cables around. It will be impossible to use this service with crappy copper cable like my town has. If it's going to be £10 a month subscription, then the price to purchase a game must be close to zero otherwise I may not intend to use the service. I'm not going to let my wallet getting raped.

green_dominator
green_dominator

@jpsaply Okay, thanks....There really hasn't been any information in this service just that it's a games service, I'm still not so keen on digital only games.... I want to be able to touch it, smell it, taste it even break it if I so please [I don't actually break game discs] that same comment extends to all things.....next thing you know they are gonna tell us the best girls are digital, I'll take Cortana.....

penpusher
penpusher

so not the future of gaming,,,it'll e likely that a standard service in the UK will be about £10 a month at least, I dont earn enough for that, I have rent to pay, council tax, electricity, water rates, phone bills, food and not to mention my internet connection! (which itself is too slow for this service cause I cant afford anything better) Those of us in these circumstances will never be able to afford such a service and will still be reliant on consoles and pc's that require just a one off fee to access for life ... thus gaming retail is not at deaths door because there will always be people like me who cannot use the service and frankly dont want to

Franzkill
Franzkill

Note to BT: Please stop living in the stone age and fix your broken broadband network, so many people (including me) have swtiched to other providers because of your lackluster service.

NoDzombie
NoDzombie

@jpsaply i can get those kinda speeds on downloads no problem if its during the day or late at night, but between about 5:30 and midnight the connection speed is terrible which is really annoying cause during the evening is when i do most of my gaming, being at work during the day and all have called to complain about a million times but they claim its just high usage in my area and there is nothing that can be done about it........

jedediahpelland
jedediahpelland

The only concept I like about onlive is being able to access and play my games from anywhere, with any old computer or just a tv and the microconsole, for example at work I run a shuttle van and i have a lot of downtime, I would be able to hop on the pc at work which is an old pentium D E machine with no graphic card installed, and play games that I would have to run on my pc at home. Anyway THAT is the only thing I like about this ON LIVE service, everything else..... NO THANKS

chibi-acer
chibi-acer

Hmm...which analysts are touting this as the end of retail game sales? I want to know where to NOT invest my money.

pete_merlin
pete_merlin

I refuse to buy this. I want a game disc, not saved memory.

karloss01
karloss01

i hope this bombs, theres no way i'll be dropping my hard copies of my purchases for an online service that can't even do global multiplayer. and the analysts are clearly morons if they think this is gonna change the market when a large portion of the market already dismiss this. EDIT: also i use BT and have not had a problem with it. i have the fastest connection of my friends and when i play online i find myself being the host for most of my games.

Barighm
Barighm

$15 a month and a very minor purchase fee on games? Sure, I'll give it a shot. $15 a month and full purchase price for games? No thanks. $60 a year and full purchase price for games? Well, that's just Xbox Live...maybe they should be following the pricing model of the successful system...

CrashOV
CrashOV

I hope this fails. This is not the future of gaming. This is a way for companies to have a way of selling you air. You pay alot of money and in the end you own nothing. This should not be the future of gaming.

FrequentSea
FrequentSea

@blakeney 'i think maby our connections still go through the switchboard??' Sir, how may I direct your frag?

fps_d0minat0r
fps_d0minat0r

i hate subsciption fees, i dont have fast enough broadband and i cant play any of the ps3 exclusives so no thanks.

Epsilon47
Epsilon47

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ItchyIsVegeta
ItchyIsVegeta

Crossing my fingers that this will be a success, even though I have my doubts.

N0tYrBeezin
N0tYrBeezin

@epsilon47 Why do you need a PC to play games on OnLive? Just use a tv possibly!

Epsilon47
Epsilon47

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Avenger1324
Avenger1324

Still no details on a pricing structure, and why restrict it so UK gamers can't play with gamers in the US? If you truly want to beat the 360 and PS3 you need to be offering a worldwide experience, not a collection of isolated groups.

jpsaply
jpsaply

@NoDzombie If you are getting 30 kbs on steam downloads something is wrong. I have a 6mb connection and get 680 to 700 kbs. You might want to check your firewalls on PC and routers. Open ports if need be.

djpetitte
djpetitte

onlive partners with my butt.

NoDzombie
NoDzombie

just as an example of how slow BT internet is for anyone who doesnt know i have what is supposed to be a 5mb connection, and im currently downloading a game from steam, its downloading at 30.6kb/s and the only other thing that the internet is doing is this page being open, its ridiculous how they plan on running OnLive with a service like this is beyond me?

bsnimunf
bsnimunf

BT internet is terrible i constantly lost my connection some times for hours and it is so slow, it cant handle onlive. It was a big mistake partnering them.

Jon_The_Pilot
Jon_The_Pilot

I am curious to see how this pans out, if it is a success it will open a door way to new games, kinda like a huge market test.

AnelZukic
AnelZukic

I still don't really support OnLive but I'll wait and see how it will perform :) well, I live in Bosnia & Herzegovina (South-east Europa) so I hope it will be available here also, and it if doesn't come 3-6 months after Europa release, I'll just forget it :)

NoDzombie
NoDzombie

bt provides terrible internet, its really slow, im getting rid of it as soon as my contract is up but yeah no idea how they plan on running OnLive through it when the connection is so slow?