Obsidian riding Wheel of Time

Red Eagle Entertainment signs on Fallout: New Vegas studio to lend development aid on Xbox 360, PS3, PC edition of fantasy RPG based on Robert Jordan novels.

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In November 2008, Red Eagle Entertainment landed the rights to make games based on Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time novels. At the time, many were left wondering whether the start-up production house had the chops to do justice to Robert Jordan's sprawling fantasy universe. Since then, though, Red Eagle has supplemented its efforts in a number of ways, signing on with EA Partners and signing up Hollywood scribe Chris Morgan as story director.

The Wheel of Time is thus far just a bit of concept art.

Red Eagle continued its aid-seeking efforts today, announcing that it had solicited Obsidian Entertainment's role-playing game expertise to help develop The Wheel of Time games. As part of the partnership, Obsidian will work with Red Eagle's in-house development team to build out the games for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC.

"Although Red Eagle Games is both a game producer and publisher, as a new company, we quickly recognized that we could benefit from supplementing small in-house technical and creative teams with a proven third-party developer," Red Eagle Games chief operating officer Larry Mondragon said of the partnership.

Obsidian is no stranger to the role-playing game genre. Formed in 2003 by Black Isle Studios veterans (Fallout, Planescape: Torment), Obsidian has since partnered with BioWare on sequels to the Knights of the Old Republic and Neverwinter Nights franchises. The studio is currently at work on Alpha Protocol and Fallout: New Vegas, both of which are due out later this year.

Red Eagle is also prepping a massively multiplayer online RPG and has partnered with Universal Studios on a live-action motion picture based on The Wheel of Time franchise. The company has yet to attach a release date to any of its Wheel of Time projects.

Discussion

157 comments
roso666
roso666

WoT is my life !! I read whole series (not whole whoe because last book will come out later this year) If they make baaad game just to earn money on title and RJs name. I WILL DESTROY THEM >:-)

GamerLegend10
GamerLegend10

Strange seeing a Frame_Dragger comment on here...i thought "omg is he back" but its from feb 2010 :( i haven't seen FD since what happened, its a shame.

agoggo12
agoggo12

I love the books, so this game better be good.

noigel
noigel

Hope I'm wrong but I think it's a bad idea to hire Obsidian to develop this game... they haven't done anything really good...WoT deserves better than that...

ShadowXStorm
ShadowXStorm

Love WoT wow so stoked on this hope they do the books justice.

Ohaidere
Ohaidere

Dunno, I read WoT after SoI&F and found it quite enjoyable. They're both fantasy, but they're a very different approach.

crunchb3rry
crunchb3rry

A Song of Ice & Fire > Wheel of Time. Martin's books spoil you, to the point where it's hard to enjoy anything else.

EdensFall
EdensFall

Come on guys, this is Red Eagle. We'll never see them game, and if we do, it will be a watered down pile of manure. They have been promising various WOT properties for years. Not going to change any time soon.

Ohaidere
Ohaidere

The game doesn't really have to be about the main story. There's plenty of other secondary stories throughout the lore that could be played out. The best Star Wars games are the ones that have little or nothing to do with the new or original trilogies (Think Jedi Knights I/II, KoTOR). I mean, hell, think of all of the huge events in the Elder Scrolls lore they haven't made a game about yet, but they can successfully take an event or two and make 20-50 hours of content (Main quest + guild questlines, etc.) in a large chunk of the world.

monowasp
monowasp

That is good new to me at least...

jazilla
jazilla

Not really expecting much here. All of the Obsidian games I have played have shipped with far too many annoying bugs. Anyone remember how many interruptions there were during conversation screens in KOTOR 2 for the xbox? Sometimes you would go an entire conversation without getting to read any of it at all and then you had to choose the decision without knowing what was going on.

esqueejy
esqueejy

@dirtyj78. Having read the series several times, I had the same sort of first reaction. Trying to have you play as Rand or switch between him and the other taveren would get too complicated and they'd be making diarrhea of the story. Maybe if you played as a secret Asha'Man assassin for Rand or something...but even then one has to question whether they still be making hash of the entire storyline. Personally, I would be crazy excited if I could muster up faith that this could be done in a manner that does justice to the whole series, story and world Jordan created, but I think it's simply too much for ANY game developer. They bit off more than they could chew.

-HCMF-
-HCMF-

could be good. It is nice to see that some companies are straying from the norm and looking toward literature for ideas...

uberjannie
uberjannie

@fekeybeah : why would you want bethesda to make the game? Bethesda can't make an RPG title. Every time they try they fail and get a action-game with rpg-stats (and with Fallout 3 some dialogue). Morrowind and Oblivion were OK games, but they weren't RPGs. Fallout 3 was a dissapointment if you were expecting a real RPG.

Duffleman
Duffleman

I'll wait and see before getting excited about this. The preview build of Alpha Protocol got ripped apart by several publications last year, hence the delay. With them working on Fallout: New Vegas, and now this, they're spreading themselves a little thin.

fekeybeah
fekeybeah

I can't wait for this! Still i wish Bethesda or Bioware were doing it..

BaLLz_ON_FiRE
BaLLz_ON_FiRE

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SecularSage
SecularSage

I just want to say (as I've said on previous threads) that Red Eagle Entertainment is a dubious organization that has made a lot of noise about having the WoT license since 2004, but which has done nothing with it aside from putting out a lot of press releases. Rumor has it that in his final years, Robert Jordan was trying to break contract with them. I'd be very skeptical of anything you hear from this group.

trinity_rdp
trinity_rdp

Nice. Its about time they released a new game from this world. I played the 1st Wheel of Time game and I liked it. Been reading the books back in college till now and Im a fan of this series. Hope they do justice to the series

Evilnator
Evilnator

@ DMLSLAT Thanks for the answer, Sounds great actually. I'll look into it.

Triaxx2
Triaxx2

I sincerely hope they can manage to bring to bear all the awesome Obsidian has at it's disposal into this. Being a fan of the series and having read the entire thing several times, I hope they'll do a great job. @bashers: Don't worry, everyone looses the plot after 5. It was just starting to come back together again in 10. It's really a series that you have to get a running start at to keep it all in your head. Start with the prequel and go from there. You'll still be confused, but by the time you hit 12, most of it will make sense.

Bashers79
Bashers79

I think I read the first 7 or 8 books (cant remember anymore). They lost the plot a bit after about book no. 5. If done right, could make an interesting RPG though.

Hercules321
Hercules321

Hmm, seems like it will play like dragon age or something similar to that. Awesome book series though, kind of wish Robert Jordan's family would wrap it up soon lol

DirtyJ78
DirtyJ78

Only way to pull it off is for the player to control a completely new character that interacts with the people in the story and as you progress, i.e. level up you see the world change around you from the events in the books like half way thru (opening it's a sandbox Bethesda type game) you can go to Shad Gorath (can't remember the spelling) and see that it's been destroyed by Rand. Having NPC's like Perrin, Matt or Aes Sedai to play along as companion characters during current quests would be awesome- especially if they do a good job of tying into storylines from the books. This game could be huge with hundreds of quests and many expansions. and to the ASOIAF fans (love that series too) Ol' Georgie screwed the pooch on who he sold his game making rights to. I wouldn't expect much there where as Obsidian can actually make a decent RPG.

Abulon99
Abulon99

I cannot wait for this game!

DMLSLAT
DMLSLAT

@Evilnator: It's a book series by Robert Jordan and, as of recently, Brandon Sanderson. Jordan died after book 11, so Sanderson finished 12 last year and is doing 13 and 14 right now, which will finish off the series. It's a hardcore, crazy fantasy story, and it's awesome (as I said in my other comments, books 8-12 got to #1 on the New York Times Bestseller List). The beginning is a bit Lord of the Rings-y, but I find this understandable. It's hard to get characters to go on an adventure in a logical way. After that though, it's a very unique series, with lots of characters, lot of stories going on at once... The Final Fantasy of books, essentially, but with multiple plotlines going at one time. Speaking of which, they should get Square Enix to do this, that's the only way it'd be guaranteed success in my mind.

DMLSLAT
DMLSLAT

3. Are the games based on the movies, or the books? If they're based on the movies, they're going to suck either way, so I'm not interested. If they're based on the books, maybe not. I don't know... I don't think the size of this series can be done in the movie industry. The gaming industry yes, with a top-notch developing team, amazing voice acting, a hell of a lot of detail, and a brilliant story/control set-up, because there's no limit to a game's length (unless it's too big to fit on one disc and they don't want to split it up, but I don't think it'll take up quite that much space). They've taken one step in the right direction, at least: making the game an RPG. RPGs are good at storytelling and being really long games, which suits The Wheel of Time. The trouble is when lots of plotlines are going at the same time later in the series. How can a video game make that work? You can't have Rand get to level 20 in one scene then just switch to Mat, who's back at level 1. It'd be annoying from a gaming standpoint. Plus, when you get a new game, Rand and Mat would BOTH be back at level 1. They could do an expansion-based system for the story games (not the MMOs), I suppose, so Rand will remain at level 20 when you carry him over. Still, this is a huge undertaking. I hope they know what they're doing...

DMLSLAT
DMLSLAT

I'm a huge fan of books, movies, and video games, and just got into The Wheel of Time series, which is officially one of my favorite book series ever. So to me, this is very exciting news. I'm not sure how any of Obsidian's past work has been (I understand KOTOR was good), but I'm definitely keeping track of all of the above. The questions are as follows: 1. Will Obsidian, Red Eagle, and Universal attempt to do faithful representations of The Wheel of Time? These books have a lot of detail and plot to them, all but two of them being longer than Harry Potter 5. If they're planning on pleasing fans and not making cash-ins, they're going to have their work cut out for them. That said, the returns will be much bigger if they do it right. Books 8 through 12 in the series have all hit #1 on the New York Times bestseller list, and most if not all hit the list at some point (there will be 14 come series' end). 2. Is it even possible for movies to faithfully represent The Wheel of Time? . Even though Jordan does take up some space with all of his detail, there's still the fact people won't sit there much longer than three hours. You'll need one amazing director to condense this much story into a movie and do it in a way that will please fans, not ruin later movies, and keep the thing entertaining (not to mention a titanic budget). And this is fourteen movies, which nothing but James Bond has pulled off. Or they can try twenty-eight to make them shorter. Have fun with that...

mf1986
mf1986

Wheel of Time on the PC was regarded as one of the best games of all time that no one played. more or less like system shock ans system shock 2.

Flameberge
Flameberge

@ Claidheamb_mor Um... what? Not wanting to upset anyone, or get into an argument, but I would - as a massive fan of Tolkien's work, and of Robert Jordan's - have to respectfully disagree with your opinion, and also the way you portray the Eye of the World is somewhat divorced from how I remember it, and therefore appears to be somewhat unfair. But then, that's what opinions are for. And before I get three billion thumbs down, I would like to point out I didn't thumbs down anyone on this thread.

Claidheamb_mor
Claidheamb_mor

My problem with The Eye Of The World was that it plagiarised LotR to the point of farce. The events of the first few chapters of Fellowship were faithfully ripped-off, from leaving a home town in the dead of night to being pursued by mysterious black-cloaked figures, one of which rides a dark, flying beast. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

bondfan2
bondfan2

is this wheel of time like the book series like the eye of the world or the grest hunt

Kan0nF0dder
Kan0nF0dder

WoT is no Ice and Fire...but it's still pretty good, so something to look forward to.

Evilnator
Evilnator

I like obsidian, but what is the wheel of time? As in whats it about?

vegetattack15
vegetattack15

@Dezuria Let's hope so, any attempt to base it on story will probably have many, many holes, u know how WOT fans are.

slipknot86_1
slipknot86_1

I think some game adaptions of the WoT series could be good, but i really don't want to see them mess it up on the big screen. For the movie's to come out proper i think we'll need "The Dark Ones own luck!"

thisranks
thisranks

I'm a big fan of the books so i'll be keeping an eye out for this. Even if it's only loosely based on the book, as long as it's a well developed RPG i'll probably give it a shot. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: When people re-define the RPG genre, you can bet that it's for deeper reasons then just where they are developed. Language and text are certainly involved.

green_dominator
green_dominator

I've never read the Wheel Of Time books but Red Eagle teaming up with Obsidian sounds like a very good team-up. I'll have to check the game out when it releases.....

Dezuria
Dezuria

Everyone is wondering what books this will be based on, but my guess is that it's just an independent story based on the world and lore.

Jaldspirit
Jaldspirit

@ Mr_Versipellis What a lot of people don't like about the books is how they slow down around the middle. The series is going to end up being 14 books long with Robert Jordan (the original author) having completed 11 before he passed. Before he passed he handed down what he had finished to Brandon Sanderson to finish the series. I am interested in how this turns out.

Mr_Versipellis
Mr_Versipellis

Hmmmm, I thought those novels were meant to be pretty crappy? Or at least towards the end. The author died half way through, right? Hmmm, I actually like Obsidian, I'll be looking out for this.

3zone5
3zone5

Sounds intresting, if they manage to pull this off then tey peaked my intrest.

MareInfinitus
MareInfinitus

@programexpert - Holy crap, you're my hero. I can't believe I didn't notice that! Tai'shar Manetheren.

MareInfinitus
MareInfinitus

@simmeh - You know, I've truly come to love the WoT series, and I'm currently nearing the end of the 10th. The 4th (the Shadow Rising) may be my favorite, but I've come to immensely enjoy the later books of the series, and I might even say that books 7-9 have been my favorites so far, besides number 4. I'm enjoying Crossroads of Twilight, but I'm waiting for Perrin to do something and rescue a certain someone already (don't want to provide spoilers). However, I do agree with you completely about games. The first book would make a good game, since it's composed of lots of traveling, and then following Rand and Mat as they're going from town to town. Later books, though, wouldn't have a ton of action, unless you're evading the Seanchan while playing as Mat and escaping Ebou Dar, or taking part in the battle at Dumai's Wells. I love what you said about the gholam though, that made me lol, and maybe if it comes at you (playing as Mat) in Ebou Dar, you'll be half-rescued by Noal, just like the book. Somehow though, just maybe, the game can make something of all of RJ's descriptions of clothes and cornices and banisters and faces and nationalities, like interactive cutscenes or something.

guthwulf_de
guthwulf_de

I'm definitely interested. I also share a lot of the scepticism uttered in the other comments, though. I loved reading the books (up to some point at least) but I don't think it'll be easy to make a good game out of the source material.