No Wii U price cut

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata says company has no plans to reduce price of new system; Google StreetView, TiVo delayed.

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Gamers holding out for a Wii U price cut are out of luck. Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said during a recent financial call that due to the system being sold at a loss, a price cut is off the table.

"With Wii U, we have taken a rather resolute stance in pricing it below its manufacturing cost, so we are not planning to perform a markdown," he said. "I would like to make this point absolutely clear."

Iwata also admitted that Nintendo has not done the best job communicating "the value of our product." The executive said Nintendo will try to correct this before it launches upcoming marquee Wii U titles like Mario Kart and Zelda, among others.

Iwata added that unlike the original Wii, consumers have had difficulty instantly understanding the appeal of Wii U. He said those who have purchased a Wii U have shown a "certain degree of satisfaction" with the system, but this has not yet spread to the wider gamer populace.

"But since its value by nature is something that takes time to appreciate and hence cannot be spread amongst society instantly, we have yet to communicate its value to the wider public," he said. "To put it another way, we delivered Wii U to those consumers who we thought would be the first to buy it, but information has not successfully been passed on to those consumers who we think will be the next people to buy it. This must be one big factor with which Wii U could not maintain its momentum."

Also during the call Iwata confirmed that Google StreetView compatibility for Wii U has been delayed. To be titled "Wii Street U," the service was announced in December and was expected to launch this month. It is now targeted to release in mid-February so Nintendo can spend "more time on final development work."

Another service yet to launch for Wii U is TiVo. Previously targeted to launch in January, Nintendo has confirmed with Polygon that the feature will not release until later this year.

Discussion

424 comments
snova9308
snova9308

considering that they denied there will be a nother version of the 3DS, and said the small 3DS is the only one they will ever sell, and a week later they release the 3DSXL, i cant believe them what ever they say.

its either the truth or another lie, who knows

but if they denied the existence of the other 3DS in the past because of the sales for a single week, im pretty sure they can pull the same shit on the wiiU prices.

aryanbrar
aryanbrar

wii u needs $100 drop to compete with ps4 and nextbox. then i can see it doing good. 

thereal-15-cent
thereal-15-cent

I'm waiting for a great deal to buy this. Once they release some limited edition super bundle with the next Zelda game, I'll probably buy it.

istuffedsunny
istuffedsunny

Every company says this every time. Then a couple months later, what happens?

yixingtpot
yixingtpot

I'd hold off on this stinker, I've almost bought the deluxe version twice... but read headlines about Wii U bricks, defectives, etc... the OS being so slow is inexcusable for a new product. I was hoping for Nintendo but this looks bad, I support the notion of their success as only a way of helping Sony keep Microbribe from taking over and monopolizing all of gaming. Microbribe has succeeded in pushing consoles into PC design, PC in a box but at least Nintendo could help prevent them from destroying all console gaming, but apparently not. 

If they don't fix the issues this system is dead on arrival.

csward
csward

I'm guessing a price drop will occur before the launch of the new Sony and M$ systems. Right now, Nintendo is doing what they call in the marketing world "premium pricing" because they are the first in the new generation of consoles. 

They're wrong, of course, just like they were with the 3DS. The 3DS still had competition from moblie gaming devices that Nintendo didn't realize.

Now Nintendo thinks because they are offering a next-gen experience with no competition (in their minds) they don't have to be price-competitive. Well, they're wrong again. The current gen has very compelling games still releasing and it will drastically slow sales of the Wii U until their first Killer app comes out.

Expect a price drop in 3 to 6 months, especially with M$ and Sony making a buzz with their new systems in the near future.

csward
csward

Or you know....there's no killer apps.

Oh my brother works at Wal-Mart and people don't understand the difference between the Wii and the Wii U. They think it's the same thing or that their Wii can play Wii U games.

bigbadonion
bigbadonion

Ehhh I find it hard to believe that people don't understand Wii u, especially gamers. It's a console with a tablet controller with motion sensors built in, how is that hard to get your head around? Talk about blame your potential customers, because they're not buying your product, also to me, throwing things like that around shows a lack of faith in it. I feel, it's for two very obvious reasons, that are blazingly obvious. The biggest and most fundamental one, is people just don't have the money, they did like 5 or 6 years ago. With unemployment so high, and so many people on less hours at work. You hear about it so often. I'm a long distance lorry driver. a few years ago I could have as much over time as I wanted, now I'm lucky to get 3 jobs a week, and anything outside the UK at all. So not only have I lost any chance of over time, my regular hours have been slashed too, my girlfriend has been made redundant, and on top of that people would just put things like this on credit cards at one time, try getting an increase  in your limit, from your bank these days. When you have kids to feed, and bills to pay, it's pretty difficult to justify paying £300 for a console with no games worth talking about, that's the second reason it isn't really selling. A small price drop wouldn't change that. It needs more games, and it's just another victim of today's climate. I predict similar issues will hit ps4, and xbox 720. Even over Christmas Wii sold out here, it was always available For a new Nintendo console, being available a week before Christmas is unheard of!

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

What everyone else has said is accurate. We'd go back to the Wii - we'd be honored to put it alongside our PS3s and 360s or PS4s or whatever, IF there was a good reason. When your console only has 2 or 3 games so far and only one or two are worth a crap, there's no reason to invest 350 dollars, more than either PS3, Vita, or 360, or DS or 3DS.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

For me to buy a Wii-U a price drop or good games will be needed.

Eventually I will want to play the new Metroid, Pikmin, and Smash Bros games. When though depends on other game offerings and the prices of it.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

I wanted a Wii U a lot, and then I realized as I went to buy one, there was no reason to. I want Zombii U. I don't even want Bayonetta 2 on principle of it being N exclusive. Unless they release the most amazing Mario, and Zelda game ever made, and they reunite the dream team from Squaresoft and get an amazing RPG on this console, I have absolutely no interest.

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

In other words.

A.) Our crappy system will still be 350 bucks.
B.) People aren't telling their friends how cool their Wii U is. (Because it's STUPID)
C.) More useless features delayed.

The Wii U is about as useless as a Wii without the homebrew channel. You can entertain children and/or use it as a paperweight.

I will buy one of these one day (when they are used at a price that isn't a slap in the face) USED from gamestop, and I will hack the hell out of it. The sole purprose to be so I can play Mario and Zelda games without contributing my money to the company that creates pisspoor hardware like this.

Microsoft should just buy Nintendo's IP and kick the rest of it to the curb.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

In related news. "No increase in Wii U sales". "No one buys overpriced Wii+". Good luck Nintendo, I'm amazed your company is in business.

AceCometh
AceCometh

Where's the third party support? Without it, I won't buy it.

Tangsta03
Tangsta03

How ironic that Iwata states that they plan to 'communicate' the value of the Wii-U before big launch titles, when everyone knows that the value of any console is in its games. Release big titles and lower the price tag of your system and its 'value' will be communicated just fine, geez, Nintendo!

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

I think I'll wait for a price cut then I'll buy a Wii U

ahpuck
ahpuck

price drop before the end of the year, I guaranty it.

Shenmue_Jehuty
Shenmue_Jehuty

Nintendo could afford to have several failed consoles in a row and they'd still be a healthy, vital company. They probably wont drop the price for a while, even if the console still sells poorly for months later.

MGSFAN612
MGSFAN612

@csward Besides the fact that the WII U is pretty much not "next-gen" it's performance over current consoles is negligible  Not that Nintendo or third part developer for Nintendo ever make games that take advantage of the full capabilities of their consoles anyway.(at least not since the Gamecube and Nintendo 64.)

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @csward well what else would you expect from kids whos parents shop in walmart :P

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @bigbadonion no ones forcing people to adopt wiiu.... wait for the games... they will come :)

csward
csward

@bigbadonion Well I disagree, money is not the biggest reason why people aren't buying.

1. The software isn't better/much different than the competiton (or the hardware on a spec basis for that matter).

2. Joe Consumer doesn't understand the difference between the Wii and Wii  U.

3. Power gamers (like me) will get annoyed with a VERY limited store, online functionality and online community. Also, the new controller gets heavy after a while and your arms get tired (and I'm a 26 year old man who does vending [lots of manual labor] for a living, think about kids trying to use this).

4. Which controllers you need for each game is confusing even for me, and I have been gaming since the 80's. You need a Wii Mote, Nun-chuck, Tablet controller and the optional Pro controller. Too many controllers imo.

yixingtpot
yixingtpot

@Grenadeh not only that, it's defective... in it's current state of usefulness it's well behind the PS3. The PS3 is a 25GB system, can play HD, 3D Blu-ray movies, internet access, Netflix etc... Motion controls, Playstation EYE. Most would get more use out of a PS3 over a XBROKE and Wii U put together.

Once people realize the value of a PS3 at last, the system should have a second life. Updatable Blu-ray player, plays 3D games and MOVIES. I think Nintendo will have to slash price on the Wii U this year for sure especially in light of Sony announcing PS4. The Wii U is going to get buried alive.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

The fact that trying to screw gamers into buying a system to play the next iteration of a game they liked, is annoying. Granted I haven't finished it but if I do and I end up liking it, I don't want to pay 350 for a paperweight so I can play the next one.


When you put it that way, yes, I agree with that, but whose decision was it to can Bay2 if Nintendo didn't pick up exclusively?

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 

What's wrong with Bayonetta 2 being an exclusive? The game would've been cancelled had Nintendo not picked it up so you're basically penalizing Nintendo for saving a franchise? 

thetravman
thetravman

@VenkmanPHD If Microsoft bought Nintendo's IPs, expect them to make the same game every 1-2 years without passionate effort. That's how most franchises die off quickly, and Nintendo's has been around for over 20 years.

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @VenkmanPHD get lost you ps troll

grbolivar
grbolivar

@VenkmanPHD Please, must be SONY the one to buy the IPs from Ninty, I have a PSV and a PS3!!!! 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 
Maybe because they actually know what they're doing. What a lot of you fail to notice is how the business aspect to Nintendo's decisions. You guys treat Nintendo like they're supposed to be your best friend and give you everything you want, no they're still a business and they're not going to squander their money just to appease about 1m whiny gamers. Sure Sony does a lot of "cool stuff for gamers" yet they're in a financial crisis. 

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

@Tangsta03 I agree, the only reason I will get one is for the new Smash Bros, a mario, a zelda, or a metroid. Basically anything else is pointless.

I would never support this hardware crap, and will be buying a used one at gamestop so I can hack it. Nintendo doesn't deserve our money if this is what they do with it.

Give your IP's to a company that doesn't suck.

thereal-15-cent
thereal-15-cent

@MGSFAN612 @csward As much as I like Nintendo, I can't argue that they're falling behind in some ways. While Sony and MS are starting to use blu-ray, Nintendo is just learning about HD. I know that graphics aren't the main thing, but Nintendo needs to at least be on-par with their competition. Luckily, they still have innovation and some good exclusives on their side. Also, they're the consumer friendly company.

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @MGSFAN612 @csward like you would know Lol

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

@csward @bigbadonion A system that requires 4 different controllers is shit. That's 240 dollars in controllers, assuming they are all priced the same as a DS3 or J Type 360 which are both 60 dollars.

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @Grenadeh Wtf are you on dude.
Just how far in the sand have you been shoving your head? Sony & Ms are no different with their game series - moving them onto next gen hardware regardless of any need current fan base opinion.
( >_> Halo series ... Gran Turismo) doh :/

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @abHS4L88 @Grenadeh I bet if it was a Sony exclusive (like the bad old days) Ps3 /Vita owners would be creaming all over Bayonetta 2 lmfao

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@abHS4L88@Grenadeh


Admittedly that's their business model. They're content with us moving on to actual systems with potential and good games, they will keep catering to the kids. Fine. My disregard stems from concern; I would gladly buy a Wii U and support Nintendo, if they deserved it. I bought Wii  and I had RE Chronicles (both), and some GC games, and Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, that was it. My Wii got stolen. I cared so little that to this day, nearly 3 years later, I haven't bought a new Wii.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@abHS4L88 @Grenadeh We treat Nintendo like we treat an alcoholic failure of a former high school friend. We pass them on the street and shake our heads in disgust at what they've become. Nintendo succeeded as an entertainment company based on our generation, and it hasn't matured with us - it has evolved backwards into making crappy, casual, kiddy games that grandmas and toddlers can play and none of them have any merit. Excluding the few good titles like Trauma Center (Good is a relative term) or Mario Galaxy or MG2 or Paper Mario or whatever, its nothing but crap. SNES and NES had awesome games left and right. N64 had awesome games left and right. Gamecube had....maybe 4 good games, Wii had what, 3? 4? Do they owe me anything? No. Are they missing out on the majority of the core gamer market? Yes.


Nintendo has done nothing for the past almost 20 years but drag by on crap and the casual family market. They haven't made a good new IP in yeaaaaaaars. They abandoned or otherwise drove into the ground what good franchises they had. We can only play mario kart 89 and Wi Ware and Luigis Mansion and Super Metroid Ultra Mega Prime Black and Pokemom Ivory for so long.

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

@digi-demon Uh we would know because despite our lack of faith and interest we have still played them and we've seen what they released. The GC was more powerful than the PS2 and despite that, they only ever released garbage on it. The most powerful games on the system were probably RE4, REmake, RE0, and twilight princess if that.

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

@digi-demon Wrong. Entirely wrong. When PS3 came out it was a long time before any real PS3 games came out. PS2 games continued to be developed and still continue to be developed to this day. Xbox was the same way, none of the 360 games that came out were good and you could still play xbox games (with some problems) on 360, same as PS2. Those systems were dead anyway, the Xbox was clearly more useful to put Linux and emulators on, and the PS2 looked like crap and showed it at the time. It wasn't an uncalled for generation change.


GT5 didn't come out for years. Years.

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

@digi-demon I wouldn't, I bought my ps3 ONLY for the exclusives (well and the bluray) and so far I'm not terribly impressed. Uncharted was good and looked great, yea. MGS4 I've played before, haven't started Heavy Rain. Last of Us is where it's at for me, but I consider this system to have been massively overhyped, which I knew was true years ago. (I realize this makes no sense but this is Grenadeh, not sure which of my gamespot usernames is which)

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @abHS4L88 obvious grenadeh is a troll - ignore ;]

csward
csward

@abHS4L88 @Grenadeh We agree with you, it's Nintendo that has specifically watered down their games for kids starting in the Gamecube era to the present. They're very easy, boring story wise, and have old mechanics. The exceptions on Wii are Donkey Kong returns and Kirby (not the yarn one).

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 

It's interesting because they don't cater to kids. Majority of their franchises are not games that kids would find fun nor would they be any good at, most of their franchises are games that are meant for those who love gaming for what it's supposed to be, a fun memorable experience. 

Tell me, which franchises of Nintendo's caters specifically for kids? 

digi-demon
digi-demon

 @Grenadeh Playstation stars battle royale - lol they wanna be nintendo so bad ... shame sony still has no real video game history... lmfao

csward
csward

@abHS4L88 @Grenadeh Play any of their 1st party games. The action ones are mostly overly childish (the storyline in Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, for example . The game based ones (Mario Party, Fortune Street, ect.) are mostly luck based so they require no skill to play for kids.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 

Yeah, I can see that I can't have a civilized logical argument with you. 

But anyways, first off, why does Nintendo have to mature with you? I don't recall people demanding Disney/Pixar to grow up, yet they played a huge part in our childhood. If you want your "mature" (aka, very immature) experiences, you have pretty much every other developer out there. Nintendo does what they do best, craft timeless experiences that can be highly enjoyed by all ages but at the same time, challenge those who seek it. 

Gamecube had a wealth of excellent titles, just because you don't like them, doesn't make them crap, same with the Wii. I can go on about how I don't like Skyrim, GTA, Fallout, Crysis and what not but does that make those games sucky? Hell no, it's just not my preference. 

Pretty much all of their running franchises are still going strong because Nintendo (for the most part) always changes up and reinvents the game with each new entry. If Nintendo is not your cup of tea anymore, that's fine, but just because you've "grown up" and quite apparently gotten more immature, doesn't mean Nintendo's crap now.