No plans for Torchlight MMO

Runic Games says there are no plans for Torchlight MMO; dev team would like to move away from RPGs in the future; team discusses thoughts on Diablo III, Blizzard, and Torchlight II on Linux.

Torchlight developer Runic Games has participated in a Reddit Ask Me Anything (AMA) session, where the team revealed that it has no plans to work on another Torchlight title or a Torchlight MMO.

When the team (which included Max Schaefer and Erich Schaefer) was asked about the possibility of a Torchlight MMO, Travis Baldree replied:

"I'll be frank: we have no plans to jump into that right now. The landscape is a little different than a few years ago, and creating the amount of content we did for Torchlight 2 was a supreme effort with a team this size. Taking on an MMO immediately afterward is not our current desire."

When asked about post-launch content for Torchlight II, Runic revealed that it wants to release new map scrolls for endgame, phase beast portal rooms, and more variations of already existing levels for increased randomisation, saying: "We will just have to wait and see how fans react, and what they ask for and try to accommodate if we can."

No plans for a Torchlight II MMO.

The Runic team also touched on the possibility of bringing Torchlight II to Linux, saying that it is on the agenda as a point of discussion, but that at the same time, the Runic team is small and unfamiliar with Linux and has no plans to expand or take on "busy" work. However, the Runic team acknowledged that there was a demand for Torchlight II on Linux, and ended with: "we do like to please".

When asked about its relationship with Blizzard, and whether the Runic team plays Diablo III, Erich Schaefer said that if he could afford to buy the rights to Diablo, he would:

"While I think [Diablo III] is a tremendous accomplishment, there's a couple things they did that really hurt my personal ability to keep playing. The auction house, even the regular one, detracts from my own loot gathering. I hate seeing all the great stuff that's so easy to purchase and is so much better than what I can find on my own.

"There's no way I could ever see working on another Diablo product with one extremely improbable exception. If I could afford to buy back the rights, I would in a heartbeat. And then I'd turn it over to David Brevik, the true heart and brain behind Diablo."

Regarding the studio's plans for the future, Runic said that it doesn't really know what it wants to do next, but that it would like to take a break from RPGs for a while.

"It's pretty up in the air," Erich Schaefer said. "We have a lot of cool ideas and nothing pinned down yet. From my perspective, I think we'll probably continue to incorporate RPG elements and randomisation in some new hybrid, character-based game. Maybe with more of a sand-box openness? Maybe with unpredictable emergent or procedural content. I can pretty much guarantee it'll have loot, though!"

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Eraldus
Eraldus

I really hope that Runic doesn't move move away from RPG genre games forever... Torchlight II is an amazing game an topped even Diablo!

Please Runic, keep the awesome games comming.

Kayweg
Kayweg

To the Runic folks: Sit back, take a break and enjoy the spoils.

And you don't need the Diablo license, you beat 'em by a mile !

It's good to hear that they consider Torchlight a done deal now, rather than clinging on to a success just to keep milking it.

Looking forward to whatever they come up with next.

Red_Jester
Red_Jester

Wait, no plans for a Torchlight MMO? I had assumed that Runic had been working on their MMO since before Torchlight 1 was even announced. I thought Torchlight 1 was a smaller game meant primarily to build up hype and educate consumers about the upcoming MMO and Torchlight 2 was mainly a for-fans sequel that filled the same role, but also was more of a proper game.

 

I haven't exactly followed their web site community or anything, but that's surprising news to me. To be honest, I'd much, MUCH prefer Runic to continue making traditional releases like TL1&2. I'm pretty much burned out on MMOs and I'm sick of F2P games with their micro-transactions.

 

This is great news for me, but also kind of shocking news. I would make an isometric Diablo shooter! Like Alien Swarm/Shooter only with loot!

parkurtommo
parkurtommo

Torchlight 2 has been simply awesome. Thank you Runic! I'll definitely support their next game regardless of what it is haha. 

johnnyxp64
johnnyxp64

i want to see a true RTS game from Runic!

then they would have TorchLight to > Diablo 3

and an RTS to go against Starcraft!!!!

 

since C&C is pretty much dead, we need more true RTS games out there like starcraft or command and conquer (base building, uniqe races, army, battles)

 

no more baseless crap.

the PC rts "area" has enough space and we need a new Good RTS to become old classic!

cephas90
cephas90

Best.  Call.  Ever.  Been playing TL2 like it's crack, I can't put it down.  Glad I support them with my money.

RockySquirrel
RockySquirrel

We need a single-player renaissance... no MMO? no worries...

naydub
naydub

So when does Blizzard whine and call them "losers" on their facebook page?

 

BTW I'm a D3 fan, but the team pulled a skrate punk move with that nonsense.

tgwolf
tgwolf

...Sad...don't bother with the excuses, guys, it took you long enough just to cough up multiplayer in the second game.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

I'm a big fan of all the Diablo games 1, 2, LOD, and 3 and the gameplay footages of TourchLight 2 looks good. It looks more like Diablo 2 (which i loved!!) ill have to get this and give it ago.

Would any Diablo fans recomend this game?

00LiteYear
00LiteYear

I want to hear a Diablo 2 fans opinion of David Brevik working on Marvel Heroes. Brevik says it is essentially the spiritual successor to D2. However, is it bad that Marvel Heroes will also be "Online Only?"

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

---GOOD!!!!---    F MMOs...  Long, boring level-ladders.

vishisluv7
vishisluv7

Enough with the gdamn MMO already anyway! We really need yet another 10's of million$ project hyped to the clouds only to limp into f2p status within a year?

Good call Runic, the MMO space is already in a glut.

Baked-Calbee
Baked-Calbee

Huge accomplishment there Runic, must feel great to remake d2 with another engine.

 

Same old storyline and same old gameplay, nothing new

Brean24
Brean24

Really? Didn't they say years ago when Torchlight came out that there would be a MMO, and that they were working on it. I am confused.

Atolm1
Atolm1

I hate to agree but I do, the AH ruins Diablo III.

Scorpion2929
Scorpion2929

Uh oh, I sense another "Fuck that loser" comment from Jay Wilson.

EvilShabazz
EvilShabazz

To paraphrase Schaefer: "There's no way I could ever see [buying] another Diablo product with one extremely improbable exception. If [Schaeffer] could afford to buy back the rights, [which he would do] in a heartbeat. And then [he'd] turn it over to David Brevik, the true heart and brain behind Diablo."

Tzardok
Tzardok

Good going, two games I run from whenever I see it on the features: MMOs (of any kind) and "Tower Defense / Tower Defense like gameplay".

 

I really dislike these genres, it's my opinion of course. But I do think that there are enough games for these markets already and none are "re-inventing the wheel".

Szeiden
Szeiden

Good.

 

1. I'd hate to see such a great company go under from a failed P2P MMO.

2. I'd hate to see such a great company get greedy with a successful F2P MMO.

3. I'd love to see more quality non-MMO games.

4. There are already plenty of good MMOs out there that cater to a broad range of audiences. EVE Online, WoW, Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, etc.

mhaed
mhaed

"While I think [Diablo III] is a tremendous accomplishment, there's a couple things they did that really hurt my personal ability to keep playing. The auction house, even the regular one, detracts from my own loot gathering. I hate seeing all the great stuff that's so easy to purchase and is so much better than what I can find on my own."

 

For anyone on the fence, Torchlight II does all those things Diablo III didn't, and I haven't been able to stop playing it. While I'm sure the graphics engine might seem unappealing to some, I assure you that once you fire up the game you'll soon forget all your worries :)

blackace
blackace

I have to get it on my laptop when I get a chance. I'm still playing the first TorchLight though. I still have a long way to go.

misterbanks87
misterbanks87

"The auction house, even the regular one, detracts from my own loot gathering. I hate seeing all the great stuff that's so easy to purchase and is so much better than what I can find on my own."

 

 

This

GamespotAudio
GamespotAudio

Wow!

 

Im surprised they did such a 180 on this.....

 

They had been saying for YEARS that a Torchlight MMO was the target. 

 

I wonder what made them change their minds?

Bozanimal
Bozanimal

"Something slightly different will be nice. We still love RPG's; especially action ones."

 

So- an action RPG from a team that is heavily invested in Ogre3D (the graphics engine used for Torchligh 1 and 2)- I wonder what that'll be like?

Gladestone1
Gladestone1

They have made a fan out of gladestone runic guys are the BEST!!!Bioware is no longer my fav developer..Now its fallen to runic an obsidion.Guys great job on a fun game..Im looking forward to what you guys do next..Maybe try another type of genre in the rpg area..You guys really do a great job in this...Good job enjoy your vacations you deserve some time off..

Total_mischief
Total_mischief

 @00LiteYear Only thing I hate about it is the fact they're not making a decent Marvel game. It's gonna be an online, okay-ish game without any actual story or character depth, or awesome super hero action. It's just gonna be like a Diablo mod.

schesak
schesak

 @00LiteYear IMO, yes.  Online only is always bad in my opinion.

 

That being said, I never complained about it in Diablo 3, because online-only doesn't actually present me, personally, with any problems.   I just like the online-only stuff because it means I lose my game if the company takes down the servers.   If I buy a game I want to have the confidence that I will be able to play it 10+ years later.

00LiteYear
00LiteYear

 @vishisluv7 It's not a small world, you know. It's better if developers work on different things so there is variety.

 

anger021780
anger021780

 @Baked-Calbee Well since it is currently sporting a 90 on metacritic I'd say yes, very huge accomplishment. 

00LiteYear
00LiteYear

 @Scorpion2929Jay Wilson and David Brevik are the same, in terms of attitude. Only difference is Wilson is more crude, without all the fancy sentimentality that Brevik spouts. Brevik says he loves that the D3 team cares so passionately about the series, but hates the way the series took because he could've done it better. His comment also applies to the whole Diablo team.

vishisluv7
vishisluv7

 @Scorpion2929 I'm sure anything Wilson has to say holds real weight in the industry now anyway. He is a laughing stock.

I'll bet the other people on the team buy you a beer now a days if Wilson opens his fat mouth to insult you. It means you are on the right track.

Baked-Calbee
Baked-Calbee

 @Szeiden because thats how u get ur paycheck.

 

Games are constantly trying to appeal to broader audience, if they succeed to get ur gf to play the game too, thats 1 extra customer you got.

 

if you look at zynga, they have more female player base than male player base, cuz female will spent money for cosmetic items while male just straight out beat the game and move on, or trying to be good at it

Tzardok
Tzardok

 @mhaed I have been playing Torchlight 2 since yesterday, I agree with you on that so far. Also if you played Torchlight 1 (the original), #2 is far superior and yes I can see myself playing longer than D3 (granted it was a great game, but I haven't touched it since I finished the campaign). I also find the classes in Torchlight 2 a bit more refreshing and more interesting the other variants out there.

Szeiden
Szeiden

 @mhaed Yea, the auction house was a game killer for me. It's just not satisfying looking for great deals in the auction house instead of actually playing the game. Yet, farming feels bad when you know you could make a fortune playing the auction house... except that's really boring.

 

One thing I don't like about Torchlight 2 though is that there is no persistent online mode. Yea I know, surprising right? Well, I would like 2 modes. One persistent online mode that prevents modded items and hacked characters from playing with me, but also a mode like TL2's current mode where you can just mess around with mods (and not worry about your character getting hacked because your save data stored on an online server [Diablo 3] instead of your computer [TL2]).

 

tgwolf
tgwolf

 @schesak  @00LiteYear YES! Well put, except I am frowning, as I always will on Di***o--Bad!! Just that mmos I wouldn't consider quite the same as the online-only games, I think that DLC is an evil all it's own, which is as well since I would never 'invest' in such a losing venture, like you were saying.

00LiteYear
00LiteYear

 @schesak Not to nitpick, but are no servers really something to like? You make a good point, though. Even in 10 years, all your data will be kept online. If it was offline, it might be difficult to transfer if you got a new computer within that time.

GamespotAudio
GamespotAudio

 @misterbanks87 It just seems so.... I dont know, dismissive.

 

They had been hammering on the whole MMO idea for a long time, they had even indicated that the company they signed with was for future support with the MMO.

 

Basically, TL 1 and 2 were just to be stepping stones to the MMO.

 

*shrugs

 

Just seems kinda weird that they would drop it to "no way at all" right off the cuff like that.

 

I personally dont care, and will be interested to see what they do in the future.

schesak
schesak

 @00LiteYear Yah, I typoed.  I meant to say "I just DON'T like" the online-only stuff.

 

LOL, totally messed up my point because of forgetting the word "don't"

 

oops.