No plans for PS4/PS Vita bundle

Sony hardware marketing exec John Koller thinks such a bundle is an "interesting proposition," but it's not in the works right now.

A PlayStation 4/PlayStation Vita bundle is an "interesting proposition," but no such offering is in the works right now, PlayStation hardware marketing executive John Koller told GameSpot during a media event this week.

"We certainly would look at it. I think it's an interesting proposition," Koller said, noting that Sony has "no firm plans" to offer such a bundle right now.

Some retailers have bundled the PS4 and PS Vita together before, but so far, Sony has yet to offer an official SKU that packs both pieces of hardware together.

Though Sony hasn't released an official PS4/PS Vita bundle, customers are increasingly buying both devices together, Koller said. "You see movement of Vita with PS4 at that time of purchase," Koller said, referencing retailer checks. "So I think we need to take a look [a PS4/PS Vita bundle]."

"I like the idea personally of being able to put them together if not as a bundle but as a marketed experience point," Koller said. "So Vita we think fits very, very well as a companion device for the PS4. But, I stop there because I want to make sure Vita retains the beauty of what makes Vita Vita. And that's that it's got it's own unique kind of bespoke games."

Koller added that the PS Vita has sold "very well" since the PS4 launch in November, though he didn't offer a specific sales update for the platform. Finally, he explained that the PS Vita represents a unique proposition within the Sony ecosystem of devices, as it is the only one that can play PS Vita, PS4, and PS3 games (when PlayStation Now rolls out).

One reason why Sony may not be looking at a PS4/PS Vita bundle just yet could come down pricing. Right now, the PS4 sells for $100 below the Xbox One, and bundling a $200 piece of hardware would potentially reduce Sony's competitive edge.

Yesterday, Sony announced that the PS Vita Slim will launch this spring in the United States through the $200 Borderlands 2 Limited Edition bundle.

We'll have more from our conversation with Koller later.

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87 comments
Dieknochenblume
Dieknochenblume

I think I'll wait till the bundle comes out. I definitely want both the Vita and PS4, but I'm too happy with my yet-to-be-burned library of PS3 games to spend on them separately. The bundle will likely offer a discount, so sure! I'll wait till then :)

daikkenaurora12
daikkenaurora12

Really?  Thats too bad.  I really wanted to get both but as a bundle to save money.

Merseyak
Merseyak

Of course not they make more money selling them individualy lol

Sam_021
Sam_021

@Merseyak  It's not that, by the end of the year when the price to make PS4 and PSV drops, I can see them doing it for £429 in the UK to compete with Xbone in a new way.

HapiJoel
HapiJoel

Why not? If they did I'd certainly consider it when I eventually get around to buying a PS4.


If not, I'm sure Game or HMV will put together bundles soon enough.

nycprocess
nycprocess

 When I eventually pick up a PS4 for Uncharted 4 I'll be picking up a Vita as well. Hopefully they'll have a bundle by then.

megakick
megakick

PSP Vita has like no games and the ones they do are on sale all the time... Doesn't look good. Sony could be as bad as shape as NINTENDO soon

rarerichz
rarerichz

@megakick yeah thats right everyones in trouble and no microsoft that hardly has any exclusives and less demand

tzolynski
tzolynski

Ive been considering very strongly getting a Vita since i got my PS4,,, I dont have a handheld and it feels like the Vita has some promise for the future.

MonstaTruk
MonstaTruk

It's a matter of WHEN and not IF. And I don't believe it'll happen in 2014. Not for a VALUE price, anyway. They both are selling REALLY GOOD, right now...

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

Can't say I blame them for not doing it. Surely it'll be the single most expensive SKU in console gaming history. Also which model VITA would they bundle? Would they choose to use up any excess stock of the outgoing model or use the Slim model that hasn't had a chance to sell on its own merit yet?

llantaeusll
llantaeusll

He is not gonna tell you that they are gonna bundle it this early. Its still like 4 months till e3. Whenever e3 gets here, they will have a bundle

Poncho_Hachacha
Poncho_Hachacha

A bundle would be very expensive. I don't disagree with the choice not to bundle them together. They're focus would be much better served trying to convince 3rd parties to put time into creating quality games for the device. 

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

How is this not in the works?  You put both in one box and knock $50 off it.  NOT DIFFICULT!

geezerdaman
geezerdaman

DAMN IT! This was one of my reasons for holding off on my PS4 purchase. Oh well, was waiting until the end of the year to buy so hopefully they come around by then.

Barighm
Barighm

"Interesting" is a polite way of saying "stupid".

press-play
press-play

i like the vita truly i do but at this point i see it only as a companion device..if it took ps4 to increase sales that to me isnt a good thing..yea more vita systems are sold but it also show you the system has to much trouble selling alone..specialy when he said he want to make sure vita retain the beauty of what makes vita,vita..gonna be hard to do specially with nintendo dominating the handheld market..so what else is new

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

@n0xinab0x  Read the article, numb-nuts. That wasn't a dedicated bundle, but a two piece offer some retailers chose to put out there. The picture of the box is a mock-up.

tjkraz
tjkraz

Sony basically killed the Vita by hanging onto that $250 price point--with no proprietary memory included--for too long.  They only recently came down to $199.  Really it's no surprise that they aren't willing to discount further.  

thegamer00
thegamer00

Stop talking about the Vita.  No one cares.

neowarrior121
neowarrior121

@thegamer00  i do its a great handheld console especially with playstation now psn+ remote play on ps4. psp vita can play literally anything when.

blackzio
blackzio

@Karlinel @thegamer00  i agree.

3ds is better i guess, but i'm already pretty fucking tired of mario's (i had almost every generation of game boys, nintendo 64 and game cube, and a ds that collects dust since i bought it.). I'd only play zelda and pokemon on it. The vita approach to indie games and AAA franchises like fifa, uncharted etc, is more of my thing

Karlinel
Karlinel

@thegamer00  Great handheld, remote play rules, interesting library of odd games...I have a gaming PC and a PS4, I want my Vita for remote and JRPGs mainly. Besides, I really don't see any interesting game in the 3DS (to my taste, Im sure it's full of masterpieces, but I never quite enjoyed the Nintendo touch)

Gen007
Gen007

I dont know why people though this bundle would happen i mean the margins are already slim to none for sony on both of these most likely and the only way a bundle would be worthwhile is to sell it for cheaper then both would cost combined right? Obviously they aren't going to be wanting to make that move anytime soon maybe much later down the road though. Some people are saying $500 for the bundle would be good really? That would be catastrophic for sony.

neowarrior121
neowarrior121

@Gen007  if they did it couldn't be a loss don't forget only recently that psn+ became popular, there making there money there, there accounts have jumped by 2 million for psn+. 

Gen007
Gen007

@neowarrior121 @Gen007 Thing is companies like to keep as much of their money yeah a certain amount of money is expect to go right back into the meat grinder but a pretty good chuck is expected to go into pockets as well. Lets say sony is making a ton of money off psn+ now i really doubt they dieing to just throw that money away doing a vita ps4 bundle. I mean seriously they would a ton of money on that deal and i can see why the have no plans of doing it. I mean the price for it would have to be at least $550 and even then it would still end up bad for them probably.

neowarrior121
neowarrior121

@Gen007 @neowarrior121  dont really need to, selling mass consoles means they will just need to wait till the end of the year to make profit because of psn+ but they will make it on mass psn+ renewing. more consoles sold more psn+ that simple really. 

KelboDelta
KelboDelta

Do people really believe they lose money on each console story?

Do you think they buy console components as a regular person would do or at a retail price? and do people honestly believe that a company can operate such a huge launch of console, with millions of units sold, losing money on each one?


Wow, I guess there are people still living in wonderland.

As for the bundle, I am dissapointed they are not doing it. It could rocket launch the vita users. PS4 does not need that push, but vita could have made good use of a little push from ps4

tjkraz
tjkraz

@KelboDelta  Last generation they took huge losses.  The PS3 reportedly cost over $800 to build a system they initially sold for $600. That was back in the early years of Blu Ray tech when a standalone player would set you back $400-500.  


This gen tear downs show $20-30 profit per console.  I can only assume those estimates take into account realistic bulk prices for the components.  They aren't pricing things out at NewEgg.  


For consoles, the big money has always been in licensing fees.  MS and Sony get around $12 right off the top of every $60 game sold.  Probably more for digital sales where they are providing the delivery means (rather than Target, Walmart, etc.)  They also get a piece of licensed peripheral sales, DLC, movie and TV downloads, online fees (PS+, Gold), etc.  


Consoles are typically sold at bare minimum just to get into homes.  The real money is made via software and other ancillary product sales.  

Gen007
Gen007

@KelboDelta They really do its not a story im mean im not familiar with they situation of the ps4 and x1 but with the 360 and ps3 the consoles at least at the start were def sold for a loss. And yes they dont pay retail price for their parts but even with that they still sell at a loss. The hope being that they will make it back in software and other various things and then will eventually be able to manufacture it for cheaper.

Lhomity
Lhomity

@KelboDelta Historically, console manufacturers have almost always lost money on hardware. Software is how they make it back. This is nothing new.

cmatt28
cmatt28

preorder cancelled!!!

DeadHUSKSskiN
DeadHUSKSskiN

They've already said they are losing money on each console sold when they dropped it to 399, why would they bundle the two and lose even more money on both systems?

DarkJedi8_basic
DarkJedi8_basic

I just hooked up my launch day Resogun Player this weekend...maybe Ill do the same with my Walking Dead Vita.

themc_7
themc_7

this seems like a no brainer. Why not bundle, when 2nd screen has become so popular?

B-boy
B-boy

psp is very unrated haldheld the psp best handheld ever made

meedokicky
meedokicky

@B-boy loved the PSP, it gave me Tekken DR, Jean D'arc and Warriors Orochi, spent a lot of summer nights playing those :)

blackzio
blackzio

@B-boy  true dat. i had both, my ds collects dust, i regret selling my psp. It's not the same thing playing psp games in the vita (mostly because THUG2, one of my favorite games on the psp, isn't on the digital store)


now i have some umd's (even movies on it lol, i own pulp fiction in every possible way i guess), i don't think anybody will buy those, will wait for it to became a relic i guess.

404FredNotFound
404FredNotFound

Personally I think they should have done this day one, it would had skyrocket Vita sales. Personally I will just go to the used market for a vita if they had bundle the vita with Ps4 it would had been a no brainer...

robertcain
robertcain

@404FredNotFound  With Sony's profits being dangerously low right now, they wouldn't dare do that at the moment. They need to recover, which the PS4 will undoubtedly prove valuable in doing before they put out a bundle.