No Kinect for Halo 4

Franchise director claims 343 would not try to "shoehorn" motion controls into new shooter, says Microsoft has hired former Call of Duty devs, but Halo not gunning to topple that series.

Halo 4 will not support Kinect for gameplay. Speaking to CVG, Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor explained that 343 Industries' new shooter is a core game that is best suited for traditional gamepad controls.

No Kinect-powered headshots in Halo 4.

"Halo is a core game series, and more than many others is directly linked to the muscle memory of holding an Xbox controller, going back as far as the days of the Duke on the first Xbox," O'Connor said. "Kinect is a logical extension of the UI, and with regards to some of the sci-fi themes we're actually pretty excited about it, but not for the controls. That's not what it's for, and we would never try to shoehorn that into our game."

Though there will not be Kinect support for Halo 4 itself, O'Connor said Xbox Live application Halo Waypoint, which can be launched through Halo 4, will work with the motion control technology. This was not detailed.

During the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo, Microsoft confirmed that all first-party Xbox 360 games would utilize Kinect in some way. It is not clear if this development mindset has since changed.

Elsewhere in the interview, O'Connor claimed that Halo is not out to topple Activision's behemoth Call of Duty series. He said though Microsoft has hired former Treyarch and Infinity Ward developers, and those staff are bringing "some of their habits" to Halo, the two franchises are intrinsically different.

"We haven't tried to chase that tail," O'Connor said. "[Call of Duty games are] good for specific reasons, and Halo is good for a different set of specific reasons. I think the closest we've come to that conversation about Call of Duty, is that we wanted to have an amazing player progression experience that wasn't just aesthetics."

Halo 4 is due out only for Xbox 360 November 6 worldwide. Development on the project recently came to a close, with the game now headed to certification before mass production. For more on the title, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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juiceair
juiceair

I said this would happen 2 years ago. Micro$oft knows its a BS gimmick and wouldn't let their trusted franchises use it. Kinect is a waste of money and Micro$oft knows it.

Sablicious
Sablicious

That's a shame.

 

The Kinect and Halo would go together like a bib and nappy.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Kinect isnt that good anyway. I feel weird talking to my tv in the lounge room on my own lol

Thaymez
Thaymez

I am not disappointed about lack of kinect support.  I would only play with a controler anyway sooo....

 

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

Good for them. At least they kinda got the idea of how to make their game not suck.  Halo 4 is meh, but hiring CoD people to make anything is pretty much cancer for your game.  They'll try to add soviets and zombies XD.

erix43
erix43

Ki who? Kill yourself. I don't care about this stupid gimmick. It is only good for sports. What I hate about it is, you're playing make believe. Gimme some body vibrators or something every time I punch or shoot. That would be nice. It feels like I'm a schizophrenic when I use this Kinnect crap, unless I work out with it. I just can "Konnect" an imaginary world with this gimmick. It sucks. I need to feel pain. I love my traditional controls and I love the vibration on them for effects. They need some vest for feel or something. Then I'll buy it. Next Gen will fix this.. But for now.. HALO 4 IS BEAST. COD? SCREW COD. 

andrew_ribbons
andrew_ribbons

I have to say, sweeping my hand around to control the interface of Halo Waypoint, sounds pretty cool X3  Just like in the game :3  I don't have a Kinect yet though.  I'm sure they'll go cheap sooner or later.

IamTheBesteva
IamTheBesteva

WHAT ? No kinect for Halo 4 ? NOT BUYING !! *rolls eyes

tightwad34
tightwad34

This will probably be the best thing about the game. I am not saying this because I think it won't be good, I mean it's Halo and has a legion of rabid fans, I say it because of the wonderful short history Kinect has had so far. Kinect and the Move seem so dead to me I really almost forgot about them until I saw this.

steelmouth
steelmouth

the Halo 4 Vs COD 8 sales battle might be more interesting than the actual COD 8 game its self

 

Team Halo

ratchet_ruler88
ratchet_ruler88

I thought it would be "Better with Kinect", what the hell MS.

-KyoKi-
-KyoKi-

Good, I'd rather play halo the way it's meant to be played. Don't need to anything that doesn't belong, to it.

kungfuj0
kungfuj0

So, MS forces kincet into games that don't need it like Forza.  They MAKE EA/Bioware put it into Mass Effect, but they don't put it into their own franchise game????

 

Does that bug anyone else, or is it just me????

TheMisterCheif
TheMisterCheif

MASTER CHEIF JUST DANCE/ I WOULD KILL MYSELF BEFORE THAT 

hippiesanta
hippiesanta

kinect is better off use for teaching tool rather than playing games

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Does a victory dance after reading this. Whoop Whoop, no kinect slowing down Halo 4!!!

SolidTy
SolidTy

Although clunky and inefficient, Voice commands were in games last gen and this gen with a mere cheap headset, easy peasy. No need for an overpriced beta Kinect camera.

Flint247
Flint247

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

 

Just playing, I do not mind. This game is better without it. Although, if it was an option and for some features, I would not mind, either.

slonekb05
slonekb05

good call, kinect is one of the worst add-ons for a console iv ever seen.. goes down with the power glove.

MW2ismygame
MW2ismygame

YAY now how about we get rid of the whole Kinect 2.0 BS in the next xbox ?

Stonecutters908
Stonecutters908

Wow. I just got about 10% happier that I pre-ordered Halo 4. Game looks awesome btw. I've been playing modern military tactical shooters for ever, mostly Battlefield Bad Company 2 and BF3. Didn't get hooked on Reach. I'm really looking forward to this one though.

SolidTy
SolidTy

"He said though Microsoft has hired former Treyarch and Infinity Ward developers, and those staff are bringing "some of their habits" to Halo, the two franchises are intrinsically different."

 

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Explains why COD keeps being brought up with regards to 343's first solo game, Halo 4.

 

Kinect doesn't belong anyways, it's a big Beta test for Kinect 2 HD. It was also sold with over a billion dollars in marketing and 360 kinect bundles worldwide. It's going nowhere fast, and it was overpriced to begin with.

sahandx360
sahandx360

when microsoft game does not support kinect, this sounds terrible

mpeg3s
mpeg3s

The 360 is too old. A replacement is needed soon!

DeadrisingX1
DeadrisingX1

The idea of Kinect (especially for Halo) is just as bad as the notion that GFWL would be benificial.

ender707
ender707

Good call, it is reassuring to know that someone out there is still making good decisions.

 

Incorporating Kinect would definitely be seen as the Microsoftification of Bungie's franchise, and would not help gamers trust 343.

slicedbread117
slicedbread117

Thank God!!!! 343 has taken the hint with CE anniversary and Halo 4 now. SOOOO PUMPED!!!!

rarson
rarson

The thing that bugs me about Kinect is that people see it as "motion controls." Sure, Halo doesn't specifically need motion controls, but Kinect offers more than that. What about voice? That couldn't possibly make sense in Halo?

 

Having said that, Kinect hardware is pretty limited and a lot of the ideas I've had for integrating Kinect into games *without making it the sole control scheme* would probably work better on the next-gen console with Kinect 2, things like eye tracking and body language monitoring.

firedrakes
firedrakes

also 360 could not run kenect  for this game correctly . its needs a cpu for it alone.

gatsbythepig
gatsbythepig

But the Kinect is so useful(end sarcasm)

dlCHIEF58
dlCHIEF58

That's too bad, would have been a great feature to add the Kinect "tea bag" move, complete with the camera snapping a picture to post online.  

 

 

luisdaobese
luisdaobese

 @erix43 You are aware that you just asked for "body vibrators" because you "need to feel pain"...but other than that, I don't question your judgement

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

 @andrew_ribbons new one will come out soon, dont bother with this kinect if ur going to get it at all.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

 @kungfuj0 Not just you. You actually saved me from posting the same type of comment!

rarson
rarson

What I'm saying is that developers should stop treating it as a controller and instead start integrating its features to use in tandem with the regular 360 controller.

dlCHIEF58
dlCHIEF58

 @gatsbythepig 

 

It actually is if implemented properly (Skyrim and Forza 4 for example). Problem is that most companies are not using it to it's full potential nor are they optimizing the controls properly. Many are just going for a cheap cash-in like much of the shovelware present on the Wii. And the Kinect is very useful in navigating the dashboard - so much quicker to use a Bing voice search for a game in your library than scanning through 100+ arcade titles to find the game at the end of the alphabet. 

andrew_ribbons
andrew_ribbons

 @tightwad34  @kungfuj0 

Really don't see why simply having the option of Kinect in a game is a bad thing for those who are interested.I have Forza 4 and really never felt i "needed" a Kinect.  But for AutoVista, i admit that kinda is cool.  But only if you've already got one kicking around.  Would never buy a Kinect just for THAT hehe.

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

 @dlCHIEF58 Yeah but people can't process the idea of Skyrim's Kinect voice commands working well, instead they'll scream at you that it could have just been done with a normal mic instead and that you're an idiot for trying to play Skyrim with Kinect commands.

dlCHIEF58
dlCHIEF58

 @shadow_Metroid  

 

LOL, you think typing in a title with the on screen keyboard (or even a USB keyboard) is easier than saying "bing Rock Band 3" as an example. Get real and give up your unfounded prejudice against Kinect. 

dlCHIEF58
dlCHIEF58

 @mtait01  

 

maybe so, but it is a lot quicker to say "quick save" than pausing the game and cycling through the menus just to do it. And you have access to ALL your shouts without equipping them, so yes it is easier with Kinect (and you don't have to shout for it to work). Not to mention how much easier it is to sort your inventory, I can't imagine playing Skyrim without it now.