No Kinect for Gears of War: Judgment

Epic Games design director Cliff Bleszinski says upcoming shooter will not use motion-sensing tech, which he estimates is not "fully realized."

Epic Games' upcoming shooter Gears of War: Judgment will not support the Kinect, design director Cliff Bleszinski at the Cary, North Carolina, studio told Games TM in a new interview. When asked if Judgment would make use of any ideas from the dead Gears of War: Exile project, Bleszinski chimed in about the Kinect.

Gamers won't get to curb-stomp Locust via the Kinect in Gears of War: Judgment.

“There are not a lot of things that wound up in there. There's one thing actually that you just reminded me of though, is that we are not supporting Kinect in Gears Judgment," he said. "I like Kinect, I've been a fan of it, but I don't think it has been fully realised as far as the potential of the device. Dance Central 3 looks great and all, but I'm curious how the 'core' games will work out."

Gears of War: Exile was a rumored Kinect game set in the Gears of War universe. Bleszinski confirmed in April that this project had been canceled, but did not elaborate further as to what it was.

Gears of War: Judgment is the first entry in the series since last year's trilogy-capping Gears of War 3. Developed by Epic Games in conjunction with Bulletstorm studio People Can Fly, the project focuses on series soldier Damon Baird and is due out sometime in early 2013. For more on Gears of War: Judgment, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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Hvac0120
Hvac0120

"Core" games need some sort of controller. Is the Move or Wii controller's the way of doing it? The idea of controller-free is great and there are some really good ideas that have come out (most in the PC world, though). The problem is that people don't want to always be up and moving around everywhere while they relax to play a game. Plus Kinect limits you in what you can do. It takes a drastic amount of memorizing motions and gestures to do simplistic tasks. You can add in a controller and make the experience much better, but then you've killed the idea of controller-free gaming.

 

Controller-free gaming is not ideal for "core" games. You need the buttons and the precision analogs. You need the pressure-sensitive triggers. Gestures can be implemented in relevant ways into games, but it's going to be hard to find that perfect mix using Kinect in it's current form.

 

Using only the voice recognition features of Kinect is pathetic. Sure it works well and possibly better than a headset. But Kinect was built to be much more and you're underselling the idea of Kinect to reduce it to a fancy voice command box.

lypotex
lypotex

I wouldnt of liked having this game supported  by kinect because when i game i game to have fun and relax i wouldnt want to have to stand up every few minutes to curb stomp somebody id much rather just press a button.

Chudamaru
Chudamaru

Cliffy B is like a hardcore gamer's advocate.

He says what we think.

tightwad34
tightwad34

You guys already beat me to it, but I gotta say there are probably a lot of very dissapointed Gears fans out there right now.

ThePowerOfHAT
ThePowerOfHAT

Kinect's voice features seem to be the only ones that work well enough to function properly in fast-paced, "core" games like this.  It blows my mind that so few developers have taken advantage of that aspect of the tech, as it arguably works far better in the first place.

hadlee73
hadlee73

...and here I was so looking forward to Gears of War players doing "jazz hands" to shoot their enemies :P

Megavideogamer
Megavideogamer

Thank god. Kinect is not really suited for games other than Dance Central. Gears of War series is perfectly fine with a standard controller.

cfstar
cfstar

Is this supposed to be good news or bad news?

crazimax
crazimax

hey gamespot, next time you put a girl gamer on the camera, don't just put her on display to attract more male audience because most all of your audience are males anyways!! and first time i saw ms violence was in the video feature where she go over some tips for BF3..if she's really "PRO" , next time, give us tips that PRO players actually use..not stupid basic moves and strategy any retard can find out for themselves

DarthLod
DarthLod

How is this news? Who on the bloody earth would want Kinect crap for GOW? Gimmicks DONT make good games.

sergiodoom
sergiodoom

Cliff should use a Lancer chainsaw to cut through every Kinect device in the planet. Kinect sucks!

ilantis
ilantis

Kinect is very good device, but it's games sucks. Case closed

edant79
edant79

Still...you gotta hand it to Cliffy....he tried, it didn't work, and he didn't force a broken product on us....like say Steel Battalion.

 

Although, I still believe that his recent ideals prove 90% of his brain cells are currently shot.....this however was a smart move.

Getbacktogaming
Getbacktogaming

Given Gears has always been a squad based fight ME3 like voice commands could have worked well and those weren't a gimmick!

Red122
Red122

I am glad that kinect is not part of the game.  Gears Kinect?  don't think so

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

The Kinect isn't fully realized because asshole game companies like this never give it the actual chance, time and money to develop a game that could actually show some potential to other developers.

Mozuckint
Mozuckint

Means they focus more on the core gameplay of the series which is fine by me.

staring_death
staring_death

somethings are not meant to be!How the hell would you fight a war without a weapon? How would you zoom the camera if you don't have one in your hands? by waving into air?

kinect was a worse idea than Eye Toy to begin with, SONY used it again with move, but still it won't catch on. I mean come on!

Do we all live in big houses with 100 square feet empty space around us? hell no! core gamers mostly sit in a chair, in a room which won't surpass 20 feet, with a lot of crap in their space. There's barely enough room to act like a real soldier!

Kinect sucked, just like eye toy sucked. and Kinect 2 will fail, just like MOVE failed.

 

Giving orders to your teammates through kinect is really rewarding. And using it to show emotions to characters and get feedback would be awesome. but that would cost too much! so overall, kinect isn't worth it.

 

Instead of all this technology crap, make more first party titles that could really standup to likes of god of war and Quantic Dreams games! Stop milking Halo and Gears!

DesertLynx83
DesertLynx83

That's good, but just you watch...MS will give them enough money to change their minds.

NX75
NX75

Good news. :)

hunter8man
hunter8man

Good. It's not like most of us GoW fans would ever want or use it to begin with.

zzamaro
zzamaro

In other words, Kinect is trash. I still can't believe some people think Kinect can handle games like Gears of Wars. That's simply not possible.

OHGFawx
OHGFawx

Kinect represents some amazing technology, but so far its only use in gaming is for dancing. As far as voice commanding my xbox, come on, who the hell is that lazy? I'm not shelling out cash for such a stupid reason.

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

Heh --  I nearly forgot to include the AWFUL Windows 8-style 95% advertising-driven interface we've all been stuck with for the last several months.  THAT is likewise Kinect-based RUBBISH.   I don't know a single player that actually uses Kinect to drive their Xbox.

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

Kinect is actually NOT rubbish -- assuming we're talking about dancing games or anything involving "jumping around in place, waving your hands like an idiot."   Girls and kids love those games, and the Kinect integration works surprisingly well with multiple players.  

 

...but for any other purpose....  Yes -- Kinect is rubbish.

tightwad34
tightwad34

 @crazimax

 She probably doesn't know what a Gear of War is. Get it?  I'm sure you do.

ilantis
ilantis

so does my english , but well.... the damage is done

heroesfan261
heroesfan261

 @Philly1UPer the Kinect isn't fully realized because it's a gimmick. Just like the playstation move and eye.

Choad-Warrior
Choad-Warrior

 @Philly1UPer The other issue is this is a "core" shooter game. There is a need for precise aiming and movement controls the Kinect just can't handle (I know, I have one). 

 

For this sort of thing, you need a controller. And there-in lies the problem. Once a game must remove their hand from the controller, it breaks immersion and gaming experience. They could do an ME3 type system, but there is another problem. In ME3, the only Kinect feature I used was quicksave. Ordering my troops was no good as there was a good second delay to issue the command (versus the "hot key"). I play at as hard of difficulty as I can...and in that setting, 1 second means everything. 

 

There are plenty of games where the Kinect does work though, I just don't think this is where. 

leimonides
leimonides

@DesertLynx83 ain't that the truth!

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

 @zzamaro It actualy can, but you have dumbasses like Cliffy B saying The thing has potential.....but then goes on to not develop a game for the damn thing. People like Cliffy B really need to think before they speak. He says great things about the Kinect....but doesn't bother developing any game for it, while making the damn thing seem obsolete.

leimonides
leimonides

@OHGFawx it seams you would be incredibly shocked to realize just how lazy people can be - trust that people are lazy to a ridiculous degree now a days. Look harder, you will see.

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

 @OHGFawx Have you tried the Kinect voice commands for Skyrim? They work almost flawlessly and add a fluidity to the gameplay that you can't get from keyboard hotkeys. Plus yelling "FUS ROH DAH" wouldn't work with just a normal headset + mic.

 

Not enough to justify the $150 purchase by itself, but it's an example where Kinect really does add something to a game.

supermoc10
supermoc10

 @OHGFawx I  have a Kinect and I definitely agree with you. Since it's pretty much sure that MS will use it again next-gen, I hope they find a good way to implement it in core games and make actually "better with Kinect"

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

 @Philly1UPer When people say Kinect has potential, they mean that a new version, with more precise motion tracking and less input lag, would work better for games. Which it would.

 

Kinect is conceptually a great idea, its limitations are the fault of MS manufacturing it as cheaply as possible.

OHGFawx
OHGFawx

 @leimonides No i don't have to look very hard at all and you are right. The most empty part of a parking lot are the shopping cart corrals, yet the parking lot is full of stray carts.

heroesfan261
heroesfan261

 @Spartan_418 Except you can get crap like that for free on PC and it works with just a mic. In fact, the idea for voice command for skyrim with kinect was ripped off of Thuumic, a PC skyrim mod.

OHGFawx
OHGFawx

 @Spartan_418 I agree its a very cool idea, and i'm glad it works well. It would be fun to mess around with, but i'd be lying if i said i'd want to do voice command shouts every time i played.

OHGFawx
OHGFawx

 @supermoc10 The problem is I still can't decide if the developers are limited by the current iteration of Kinect or if they just can't seem to get the programming right. Some very cool ideas have shown up, but they fail on the execution nearly every single time. Maybe Kinect 2 or Kinect HD (whatever they call it) will address these problems so devs can get more out of it.

Kronical42
Kronical42

 @Spartan_418 How did you get that out of what he said? Because he does not like Kinect, playstation move, and eye? I think he would of said something like "everything sucks compared to a keyboard + mouse". Why would he only single out two controller types and assume he hates all of them..lol

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

 @heroesfan261 Sure, but like I said before, actually -yelling- the shouts wouldn't work as well with a normal mic because of distortion issues and stuff. I know it's sort of a gimmicky thing and just saying the shouts in a normal voice would work just as well, but what's the point in "FUS RO DAH" if you have to say it quietly?

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

 @OHGFawx The voice commands are entirely optional, of course. Even when Kinect commands are enabled you still have the option of just pressing the bumper to shout. I play Skyrim on PC as well and without the voice commands I find myself having to pause the game 20 times as frequently, to open the Favorites menu, inventory, etc, which detracts from the fun and immersion to a certain extent.