Nintendo is like the weird goth click in school, just what the hell are they up to anyway? and why do they have a weird smirk on their faces every time i pass them in the halls. Just what the hell do they know that I don't, huh? can someone please tell me! 

Nintendo may do better then Both consoles this holiday the fact that PS4 and Xbox one have like a total of 1 rated "E" game mean they really out of touch with the kid market which there is still some responsible parents out there like me that won't have my 9 year old play GTA 5  or 3 year old play a shooting game. 

Pretty Confident claims there by Nintendo.....

I suggest any developer to make game that make people laugh since we hardly find such these days.

What Sony and ms do may energize the community but Nintendo needs exclusives that's the only thing that ever kept them alive and Mario isn't cutting it anymore.

meh...

Being unique doesn't mean being successful. If you eat shit, you're pretty unique, but it doesn't make you any better.

Nintendo should forget about the skilled market, not that it can't play such games, but its why bother playing for an example BF4 on the Wii-U with reduced everything instead of playing on real next-gens or PC.

PS4 and X-Bone will be pulling far more consumers to the purchase of their system and games, I don't see how its a positive at all for Nintendo; Nintendo would gain little and lose more.

Nintendrones hiding behind the 3ds on the comments section when you ask them for wiiu games... Really guys? That low?? Wow.

Before the wiiu came out they said the system was for the core and look at them now. Iwata sucks pretty sure people at nintendo are sick of his bs.

I somehow can't imagine playing Bayonetta 2 with the Wii U pad....

They need to release the new Zelda already!

Now that's what I call wishful thinking.

Humm... I wonder. Who buys consoles anyway? Really. Is the majority the end user or is it someone else buying it FOR the end user?

~150M Wii's out in the wild along with ~80M each of 360's and PS3's. (all total ~ 310M consoles)

Unless there is a compelling reason to, these are likely not going to be upgraded. In a single console household with 2.5 kids ether the console stays with Mom or Dad (or Mom+Dad) when the kids move out or one kid gets the console and the other 1.5 kids get nothing.

The kids have grand children. If the parents/grand parents have not already sold the old family gaming console (they'd have PS2/Xboxes/pre-Wii's) or simply ditched or otherwise thrown it away when the grand kids get old enough what are the parents/grandparents going to buy?

- Used 360 or PS3 system. Both will be cheap and have large libraries of games

- Used WII system. Large library of kid friendly games

- WiiU - it can play Wii games (least expensive "new" option)

- Xbox1 - Comes with some features that Mom+Dad might like but very small library right now. (most expensive)

- PS4 - Very small library right now. (2nd most expensive)

I'm guessing that the least expensive options with out the requirement to be online to play may get favored over the 'next generation' consoles. I'm thinking a used WII or PS3 would be the 1st choice (Wii slightly favored) and the WIIU favored as a 'new' purchase.

My guess is that 90% of the 'launch' sales of Xbox1 and PS4's are gamers purchasing consoles for themselves.

Read: 4-8yo and biblebelt demographic.

Wii U will do fine.  SSB4 alone will raise some hell in sales.

Parents look at the turds that are available at launch for these next gen consoles and look at all the features that are not ready for launch.  What is the point of buying a PS4 or Xbox One with no games that really matter ?  What is the point of a new console if many of the new features can't be used right away ?  Seriously the Wii U is a decent console that got a bad rap for no reason.  It is not Wii 2.0 !  People who say that are brain dead.  The Wii U offers a different way to play coop games.  It encourages fun, family gaming and still allows for some main stream non Nintendo titles to be played on it.  If people start buying more Wii U consoles then game makers/publishers will be forced to think about putting their games on the system.  Simple as that.

All I know is Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros U, and Bayonetta 2 are gonna be fucking awesome!!! I cant wait, also I have high hopes for the next Wii U legend of zelda and hopefully a new Metroid game for Wii U. Cant forget about the legend of zelda a link between worlds either, looks amazing!!! If you ask me Niintendo is doing pretty good when it comes to games, I would rather have a handful of high quality first party games that actually take years to develop, instead of getting dumped on by "decent" games that i'll get bored of after a month, not putting COD or GTA in that category cause i do love those games too. I have a Wii U, a 3DS, a PS3, and i plan on getting a PS4

If the wii-u was cheap enough, people would buy it.

Nintendo have what, 21 different game franchises? To them all that matters is the wii-u is good enough hardware that can deliver their first party games in HD. The competition is getting dangerously close to PC architecture. At the end of the day to get access to Nintendo games, you need to purchase Nintendo hardware.

nope release of next gen consoles means nintendo is going to go down in business. hopefully not out of busniess. but seeing as you dont have any games for your wii u, your kinda in dead end zone. next gen is just going to get better from launch day. 

the only reason the U is struggleing is there games are old its been what a year and now were getting ww Hd and a new mario game just adding luig and crossing off mario is not a new game there killing the vita the new mario will sell for x-mass and they need to get out zelda 2 next mario party the next mario kart and bring peoplel to play those great games

No Nintendo - the release of the next gen consoles will be bad for you as it will highlight ALL the problems you've got right now; underpowered hardware, lack of or poor ports of the big 3rd party exclusives that now make up the majority of gamers' libraries, a lack of diversity in 1st party titles, no killer app and a mindset that gamers are on average about a decade younger than they actually are in 2013.

Get with the times, I'd hate to see you go under in the Console space.

@Vexov Because they had a head start. Its really about the games and the exclusives, and not just the specs. But if the hardware is the priority, then one would be better of with a high end PC. That would suffice for most spec-maniacs, but not fanboys tho, who pre-order console mostly because they want to own the hardware, with no clue what games the next gens will have on launch.

But Nintendo sees it as a profit since they got their WiiU early, plus the recent price cut.

@mbloof "My guess is that 90% of the 'launch' sales of Xbox1 and PS4's are gamers purchasing consoles for themselves."

I agree with you 100% on this statement. 

@Kennybob what the hell are you talking about, 

all games take a lot of time to develop, i get bored of mario kart just as long as i got bored of gta v online, 

@Zonelezz Next gen launch looks like utter garbage.  Lacklustre launch games and broken promises on features on the consoles to be available at launch = people should just stick with their PS3 and Xbox 360 for certain things and quite frankly the only people that want people going crazy about the new launch consoles are the companies that made them and the people who make up 50% of the consoles bought that are being used for reselling.

@Zonelezz I don't know about that.  Super Mario 3D world is coming soon and you can bet parents would rather pick that up for their kids instead of shelling out $400-500 on X1/PS4.  Mario is a familiar icon to most of those parents so I wouldn't underestimate those sales

@MVan86 nobody wants to see Nintendo go down menh

@MVan86 LOL lack of diversity.  Oh wow, if that is what people are looking for, then WiiU will be the game machine they pick up.  I'm not sure what you call diversity, but I'm not seeing anything diverse or unique about the ps4 or XB library.  Meanwhile on the WiiU.. I'm seeing a long list of diverse gameplay experiences.  Maybe not all published by Nintendo themselves, but most are.  They may not be your cup of tea.. maybe you only like FPS and pseudo realistic graphics (that fall far short of "realistic")... then yes, Nintendo is not for you.

It may surprise you to know, but not everyone likes to play FPS's and other violent video games.  I love to kill stuff in Halo and GTA like the rest of them.. but I've been playing a whole lot more pokemon and my WiiU in 2013.  For the past couple years, my 360 was basically a dedicated Final Fantasy XI and Hulu player with the occasional diversion for Gears of War3, Halo4, and Portal2.  

@MVan86 Nintendo is about fun, not graphics. Games that basically make you feel good. Comfort-gaming is probably the best way to put it. You are not their target.

@devilzzzwin @Zonelezz Yea I agree.  While both Xbots and PSbots argue about who has the better launch lineup, I cant help but sit at the sidelines watching those two idiots fight over nothing.  That's not to say I wont be picking them up.  I plan on getting both X1 and PS4 when they are more updated and have more awesome games but right now, those launch titles are weak as hell.  I'll be sticking with my PS3, 360, Wii U, and PC a while longer. Steam Machine is looking pretty awesome as well so I might even pick that up before the X1/PS4

I dont see the games could you name them?

@Puck269 @MVan86 No it won't be, Wii U has the least diverse library around.

I play all kinds of games: platformers, FPS, TPS, racing, puzzle, brawler etc. 

Where are those games? And graphics are important for games as much as gameplay amd music ext.

@SpiderLuke @MVan86 I'm a gamer - I should be their target.

@Puck269 @MVan86 yes you are missing something. Fast and the Furious? wiifit? who plays those games? seriously. not to mention the fact that the wii-u has been out for almost 2 years now and you're comparing its library to consoles with launch titles. Really?

bottom line is, exclusives determine console sales. most of the games you mentioned are multiplatform so i dont know why you're using that as an argument. nintendo needs to start making other exclusive games other than mario and supersmash brothers.

Wiiu not 3ds...

Hahaha batman on wiiu is horrid hahaha

You must be on drugs.

@MVan86

While Kid Icarus: Uprising has only been present on the 3D and Advance Wars has been exclusive on handhelds, the rest have prominently been represented on home consoles, it's just a matter of Nintendo knowing that there's a demand for those games. They are still a business and aren't going to constantly pump out entries of these major franchises that'll only go on to sell like 500k. 

@abHS4L88 @MVan86 Most of those franchises are quiet on console as I understand it. 

I'm a gamer yeah. No I'm not complaining, I'm pointing things out and hoping Nintendo will come to their senses... as being left with just MS and Sony would reduce consumer choice.

@MVan86

Kid Icarus: Uprising is a hybrid of an on rails shooter and 3rd person shooter/brawler. Metroid has always been a shooter that focuses on exploration and puzzle solving (although a rather dormant franchise right now). 

Racer, I admit, is a bit of a stretch since their racing franchises haven't been active for a while like F-Zero, Wave Race and Excitebike/truck. 

Both Advance Wars and Fire Emblem are strategy games, Fire Emblem being a strategy RPG.

Pikmin is an RTS game. 

So you mean to tell me you're a fan of videogames, yet you have little knowledge of Nintendo and you have the gall to complain about them? 

@abHS4L88 @MVan86 @Puck269 What shooter, what sim, what racer, what strategy, what RTS? I know of NO Nintendo games in those genres.

@MVan86 @Puck269 

Actually, Nintendo makes, platformers, kartracers (basically invented this genre), RPGs, action/adventure, puzzle, party, simulation, fighting games, racing, shooters, rhythm, strategy, sports, and RTS. 

If you don't consider Nintendo diverse, then NO ONE in the gaming industry is diverse to you since no other developer is more diverse than Nintendo. I think the only other developer who has a library of franchises that's just as diverse is SEGA.

@DukeMagnum @Puck269 See, but I'm not so sure about that.  If you assume and most correctly mind you.. that most if not all WiiU owners have a PS3 or 360..  and can still play a lot of the games that are getting released outside of the WiiU on those consoles..  then the diversity of spending 400-500+ on a new console just doesn't pan out.  

However, to someone that doesn't own a WiiU.. but owns a 360 and ps3, I would be able to show a more diverse and uniique library on the WiiU, then what can be found on the two new systems.

@MVan86 @Puck269 Actually, there has been reports that Batman Arkham Orgins runs the best on the WiiU believe it or not. The reported bugs that have found their way into the other versions have not been reported to have been found on the WiiU.  I have no idea why.. but that's what I've read.  It is one example, hardly the norm I'm sure.. but the multiplayer that was tacked onto the game was also not worth the $10 extra that one has to pay to play it.   

@Puck269 @MVan86 Um exactly what diverse means. 

Nintendo make platformers and kart racers.

MS and Sony make FPS, TPS, Racing, Platformers, Brawlers. 

Nintendo still doesn't get all the 3rd party games that MS and Sony do, and even when they've got ones MS and Sony do have they're reported as being the worst version of them.  

@DukeMagnum @Puck269 What utter nonsense. Maybe things have changed a little from the Wii days when they had virtually no third party titles but Playstation and Xbox have far bigger libraries and more diverse ones too. 

@Puck269 stop it. you're reaching way out there for this one, just give it up. you're comparing a console with a 100 or so game library to ones with 25 game libraries, wii u is more diverse by default. of course that will not last more than a couple months because the ps4 and bone will have managed to eclipse the wii u library in a relatively short period of time. besides, it is not like the PS4's library is not reasonably diverse as it is. i can't speak for the bone cause i'm not getting one so i don't know much of what they have beyond the forza, ryse, killer instinct and dead rising 3 (all different genres, btw). with PS4 you have killzone and knack and need for speed rivals and assassin's creed 4 (again, all different genres). there will be puzzle games like the witness coming early next year, probably a couple puzzle games on PSN day 1 but i don't play puzzle games generally so i don't know. injustice is coming within the launch window, a fighter.

@MVan86 Again, your definition of diverse is? The WiiU has Mario, Rayman (platformer), CoD, ZombieU (FPS), Assasin's Creed and Batman (Third Person action), Fast and Furious, Need for speed, Chasing Aurora, Sonic Kart (racing), Half a dozen puzzle games... Injustic, lego games (brawlers)... 

Then you have all the unique games.. like Wonderful 101, Pikman.. Lego City Undercover even filling in the sandbox genre..  All these games are out now for the wiiu.. not even getting into the near releases like WiiFit, the new party games, 3d platformers.... I mean, I can't think of a more diverse lineup that the ps4 or Xbone have..   am I missing something?

@MVan86 @SpiderLuke 

 @MVan86 @SpiderLuke

I used to dream about owning an NES when I was little, until I finally got one. It appealed to all demographics. Now I am 35 with 5 kids and one due on 11/24. My 3 yr old is too young to play console alone and my other kids like shooters. Killer Instinct used to be only on Nintendo and arcade.

So I agree with MVan86. Nintendo needs to go back to its roots by partnering with many studios again with the focus on diversifying its game library with Triple A exclusive titles that make full use of the hardware and peripherals and they need to do it fast.

The games dont need to have excessive blood or violence per se, they just need to be really really good and Only On Nintendo Wii U.

I want Nintendo to have its niche, but I also want it to get back people who loved Nintendo when it catered well to all demographics better.

I am a great game designer. I used to work for Shiny Entertainment. I was Assistant Designer on Enter the Matrix. 50% of my game designs were scrapped because of lack of time per contract and manpower. It was going to be way ahead of its time. One of my game designs was stolen and turned into 2 blockbuster  games by a different company.

I would love to work on Nintendo videogame development to help Nintendo regain their ground. Maybe not all of it, but a lot of it. I love Nintendo! 

Why bring up the 3ds this is about the wiiu vs ps4 and xbone.

@SpiderLuke @DukeMagnum @MVan86 Not really - looks like more of the same.

@DukeMagnum @MVan86 @SpiderLuke Wii succeeded because of what it was and who it was aimed at. 

@DukeMagnum @MVan86 @SpiderLuke They have games finally coming this holiday. The 3DS is their beast money printer too so I doubt they are in any trouble. It would be funny if they had an emergency bail-out button that said, "Release the console Pokemon title."

@MVan86 @SpiderLuke I'm a gamer. I love my Wii U and will love my PS4 and Xbox One (eventually) too. lol

@MVan86 @SpiderLuke Meh, they're on their way to irrelevance. The Wii was a fluke and a fad that delayed the inevitable, but the Wii U has them right back on track to not matter.