Nintendo: Wii U 'not just an upgrade'

Mario maker reaches out to original Wii owners to say new version is an "entirely new system."

Nintendo has reached out to original Wii owners to inform them that the Wii U is "not just an upgrade." The Mario maker has dispatched a message through the Wii system explaining why consumers should upgrade to the HD console.

"It's time to discover Wii U," the message reads (via Kotaku). "Wii U is an all-new home console from Nintendo. It's not just an upgrade--it's an entirely new system that will change the way you and your family experience games and entertainment."

Wii U sales have struggled, in part due to marketing efforts falling short, according to Nintendo. Mario and Zelda creator Shigeru Miyamoto said in March that communicating the novelty of the Wii U relative to the Wii has been a challenge.

"I think Wii U certainly has a little bit more of a challenge because it doesn't have that 'looking-fun' element to it," Miyamoto said at the time. "But I think that as people bring it into the living room and begin to play it, particularly when you experience with five people, you really do get a sense for how fun Wii U is."

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata last month laid out a plan to make the Wii U profitable. It includes releasing "key" first-party titles on a regular basis beginning in the second half of 2013, increase efforts to communicate the uniqueness of Wii U, and reduce manufacturing costs.

Worldwide Wii U sales currently stand at 3.45 million units. Nintendo hopes to sell 9 million systems by the end of March 2014.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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Persydark
Persydark

That's right, I had forgotten that a hardcore gamer needs a pretty looking console with a very special name to enjoy their games. If you need a super console beefed up on steroids then be prepared to pay the price, and I'm not just talking about money cost but also reliability. What's that I hear you say.... The other consoles aren't much more expensive? Ok fair enough if you think a couple hundred isn't much but how many of them will you have to buy when the first one shits itself? As for names, how original is playstation with their names. Bet I can guess the next one. Oh I didn't forget xbox, 360? So what, they did a circle and are back where they started? What about infinity, unless I'm mistaken but isn't one of the symbols for infinity a snake chasing it's own tail? Is everyone serious about picking on Wii u. It's not a great name but don't pick on one without picking on the others. Nintendo is not bothered with console wars anymore and I think it is great that they have let the stupid bickering go on between Microsoft and Sony. "you go first" " no you go first" haha Nintendo don't give a stuff, that's why the Wii u will be out for a year before the other two get their shit together. There is no lack of games, use your brains people. There is a whole library of Wii games that can still be used and don't forget the classic ones available online. Surely everybody thought of them. Oh that's right, I forgot again that the hardcore gamer only plays the latest of new games. People, games are suppose to be fun, that's what Nintendo does best since 1881. People get toys to play games, no matter what age you are we all buy toys they just go by different names. Games are played to have fun, even kids know that. So therefore toys are fun. The old toy company knows that. This would be why their games are so much fun and why they focus solely on them. I don't know about everyone else but when I buy a console I buy it to play games. Why in the sphincter of hell do I want a console that plays movies, music and all the other crap? Maybe that's a hardcore gamer thing again. I get the feeling I mustn't be hardcore enough. I don't care then, I don't want to be like those people. Everybody have fun with your squabbling :)

JOHN1486
JOHN1486

they should have went with WII ∞.......oh wait

Trickymaster
Trickymaster

Should have chose a different name then.

fattgt
fattgt

"I think Wii U certainly has a little bit more of a challenge because it doesn't have that 'looking-fun' element to it," Miyamoto said at the time. "But I think that as people bring it into the living room and begin to play it, particularly when you experience with five people, you really do get a sense for how fun Wii U is."

TRANSLATION: "We must sell at least four extra peripherals per unit to break even with current sales"


Vambran
Vambran

Is Nintendo saying Wii owners are so stupid they can't tell the differnce between a add-on device vs a stand alone console?


gbrading
gbrading moderator

Ah Nintendo... I don't know. Every time I think "Nintendo is doomed" they somehow pull another rabbit out of the hat. I thought the Wii was an awful idea and it did brilliantly. I think the Wii U is also an awful idea. We'll see if Nintendo surprise me again.

csward
csward

"Wii U - Not just an upgrade". This couldn't be further from the truth. It's a downgrade as far as I'm concerned. I was so disappointed I returned it to the store I got it from.

Nintendo's core customers are the same people who still buy DVDs and won't upgrade to Blue-Ray.

RhythmAndBlues
RhythmAndBlues

This is all rather embarrassing. It's an admission that a). they should've called it something else and, b). they should've made this statement sooner. I mean, c'mon...


"Wii U is an all-new home console from Nintendo. It's not just an upgrade--it's an entirely new system..."


It's not "all-new... entirely new" or anything of the sort, mate. I've had one for almost six months, so don't tell *me* it's bloody "new". Admittedly it can *feel* new sometimes, because I don't have anything to play on it yet, but that doesn't make it genuinely new.

Then again, this announcement was always gonna have to be made, and it was gonna be embarrassing whenever they did it. Hey-ho. They've done it now. Let's all move on and cross our fingers for some "genuinely new" quality releases.

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

why not invest in the 3DS?

nintendo's homeconsoles became shitty since the gamecube (well it had some good games, but other games lacked the features of the ps2/XBOX versions)

but still i think the 3DS can prove better then the PSV since it got some fine games to it (fire emblem comes to mind) 

but still, more games would be fantastic good the 3DS

CidX1
CidX1

Nintendo spent all these years aiming at a casual market, guess what, they don't want a new system now, they are CASUAL.

AgentRaven77
AgentRaven77

They do people want to buy a system were the graphic are the same as the PS3 and Xbox 360.

freedom01
freedom01 moderator

yes sure the Wii U is not an upgrade but its not worth owning one right now, I have the system right now and I regret buying it, only 2-3 games are worth getting Mario Land U, Monster Hunter 3, and Nintendo Land (well the last one is just my opinion), but the games out right now are not worth it, and no good games for the Wii U is coming out any time soon. Probably sales will got up if they bring in more games

hitechgraphs
hitechgraphs

Ha,ha,ha,so,Miyamoto is pleading:Wii U is worthy, is not a gimmickry,we need your money,Please heeelp!So absurd and pathetic.

Emoboii93
Emoboii93

I'm sure it will pick up, It will just take some time.   WHat people don't understand is that The Wii u is outselling both the ps3 and xbox360  in terms of Launch sales. 


And it also doesn't have many games to push it along to do that. Which is impressive.


I'm focusing on buying a 3DS fist, Much more games. way more up my alley because of all the "64 " Games including star fox, mario.  Also the new addition to Animal crossing is going to be so cool!. 


I think nintendo has some sort of method to their madness just wait for their definitive titles. 


 I wouldn't mind some new Franchises to see from The big " N ".  Half life 3 sounds exciting. But...


They're not getting  saints row 4 or Gta 5. Bummer. Way to not appeal to the hardcore demographic who are not so " amazed " by every little mario game.


Do they want the kiddie friendly name they have?  They branched out of that with Call of duty's recent release. Which was a wonderful effort.

 Take it a step forward It would be a shame not to get those two Premium releases.



ohjtbehaaave
ohjtbehaaave

When you rush out a system without any "A" games you are asking to fail.  Real gamers are too savvy to care about Wii U right now.

Sam-os_IMP
Sam-os_IMP

Sorry Nintendo but when you aim at casual gamers this is what happens, you can get them to buy your new system because they're happy with the one they have and will be for the next 15 years.

stratfender89
stratfender89

"I think Wii U certainly has a little bit more of a challenge because it doesn't have that 'fun' element to it," Miyamoto said at the time

Superzone
Superzone

I still hate the name "Wii U".  Nintendo, if you didn't want people to be confused about whether this is a whole new system from the Wii, why the hell did you call it Wii U???  I have never understood the decision making there....

Aengelus
Aengelus

Why is it so hard for Nintendo to realize that people do not want to pay $350 for an outdated game console that HAS NO GAMES?!? I get it, you will be releasing the usual lineup of Nintendo first-party games EVENTUALLY, but as of now there are no games on the console worth picking one up for. What the fuck do they want me to do, go buy an overpriced console so that it can sit around and collect dust until you finally decide to release games for it? Why don't I just go buy a sports car and let it sit around until I get my drivers license in a year or so. It's pretty fucking simple Nintendo, release games for the damn thing that are worth buying and people will buy your console. Don't beg consumers to buy your product with the promise that one day you will release games for it, fucking pathetic. 

aloufika
aloufika

ditch the tablet thingy and just use the pro controller

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

nintendo....just a heads up, people buy consoles FOR THE GAMES. When you lack compelling software, no amount of gimmicky controls and fanboy worship will save you.

I can't believe that the same peeps that gave us the NES and SNES are about to go the way of the dino....

Lionman363
Lionman363

Wii managed to get by thanks to the hype regarding its waggle-stick.


Wii U doesn't get to have that luxury. Until Nintendo can find some way to compromise and get some decent games out before the end of the year, I can't see anyone sticking around for another year to play the next Zelda or Metroid game.

so_hai
so_hai

Associating the new system with the previous (by using the word "wii") is a double-edged sword. You get the good-will, but you lose the impression of it being a new console...

Shouldda' called it the Revolution.

shadowboy88
shadowboy88

NINtendo is publishing bayonetta 2, how about this idea to shut the power controvesy,

1. Make the devs of bayonetta 2 compare part 1 and 2 showing the improvements (if any)

2. On the games, problem go to asia, germany, russia, canada or france get upcoming devs go to game schools intern programs and such get the young devs to make games for you how you want. OR revive past games like skies of arcadia, shenmue, bloody roar etc. instead of pursuing the likes of crytek and such to PORT thier games onto your systems.

blueinheaven
blueinheaven

@Persydark Gamers don't need a pretty console or a 'special' name. They never have done.

Let's discuss the name: Wii U. It is an incredibly stupid name, mind-bogglingly stupid in fact. Okay, name discussion over, let's move on...

A whole library of Wii games... well they will look fantastic on modern HDTV's that just about everyone has. I don't want to play games that make my TV look like it's suddenly broken. Thanks though.

I agree I don't want to play movies, music or anything else on my games console I want to play games. Wii U doesn't do games, yet. It will though, eventually.

You are quite possibly the worst advertisement for Wii U on the entire internet. I might buy one eventually when the price has come down ridiculously and they have their Mario and Zelda games intact, I might not but regardless, as things stand the Wii U absolutely blows in every respect imaginable.

SkiBumMSP
SkiBumMSP

@Trickymaster

I actually agree.  'Wii U' sounds like "Wii Upgrade" to me.  Granted, I have one, and I enjoy, it, though.  Hoping they put out some decent games for it, though.

CWZaft
CWZaft

@Vambran Yes. Absolutely yes. And they're right. But can you blame the customers? Most of them are adults getting stuff for their little kids. They don't know anything about video games or console wars or anything like that. So they look at "Wii U" and say "Oh, that must be like Wii Fit. And HOLY SHIT that's expensive. Yeah, nah, Timmy doesn't need a tablet for his Wii."

SkiBumMSP
SkiBumMSP

@gbrading  

I think the it has potential, but we shall see.  I do have one, and I do enjoy it, however, the big thing I have with it is the lack of games for it.  I only have three games for it right now, the Nintendo Land that came with it, Super Mario, and Lego City.   I found that I am mostly playing Wii games on it, though, such as Xenoblade Chronicals, The Last Story, and Mario Galaxy 2. 

Yondaro
Yondaro

@thequickshooter 3Ds indeed, has the better lineup. But the Vita has the hardware to have the 3DS running with it's tail (Imaginary one) between it's legs. I bought a Vita then returned it. There are no good games available for the lil ol guy. If they had one decent RPG, or Action game, I would reconsider (not even remotely) buying it again. lol.


On a serious note: The Vita has the hardware to give it the beautiful games it deserves. Some cool new sonic game (I KNOW I KNOW. THAT'S A LOT TO ASK FOR), or some good ol fashioned Monster Hunter on a Hd, Dual analog display.

freedom01
freedom01 moderator

@thequickshooter actually all nintendo systems and handheld have good games but it just takes time, and another reason why people think that there are no good games after the gamecube is because many of the good games are all made in Japan only. If you search up there are tons of good games for the Wii such as Fatal Frame Zero, Taiko no Tatsujin, Super Robot Taisen and many more, Its just that most of those games are not localized.

Its kind of like the PSP. here in the states the PSP is dead, but in Japan its still one of the best selling handhelds and there are games still coming out for it. So what Nintendo needs to do is that if they are going to region lock their system, they should at lease release most of the games that will also be released in Japan if they want to have their sales go up or it will just become like the PSP where they dont have all the good games and it will be left to die.

bluefox755
bluefox755

@CidX1 exactly, casual gamers by definition, don't commit to anything, so nintendo expecting wii owners to buy wii-u, I think they are missing the point

Yondaro
Yondaro

@hitechgraphs Not Pathetic. Telling people about a product you believe is good, is not pathetic. If you had a console you were exclusively developing for, you would do the same.

HerbalVideogame
HerbalVideogame

@hitechgraphs So absurd and pathetic?  It's absurd that someone who helped make a product would try to usher support for it?  It's pathetic?  THIS IS WHAT EVERY GAME DEVELOPER IN THE INDUSTRY DOES.  Your comment is a hypocrisy.  

slipknotmaggot1
slipknotmaggot1

@Emoboii93 "Definitive titles" MARIO TAKES A BATH! LUIGI AND YOSHI PICNIC TIME! LEGEND OF ZELDA 2! ZELDA IS LEGEND! nintendo has last all originality and is struggling to catch up by playing copy cat with sony and microsoft. Wii U might be selling great in other countries, but in the  US, nobody care to buy it. It is essentially an upgrade, as the next sony/microsoft products will be truly next gen. you can't expect to create a whole new type of gamer, when for the past 20 years, you've been encouraging  casual gamers only. 

veryDERPY
veryDERPY

@Emoboii93 i recall ps3 being on ebay for over 1k. while retail has tons of wiiu collecting dust

H0rizon
H0rizon

@Emoboii93 

Thing is. Nobody cares in the slightest. What do you see more of in terms of all the consoles?

lostn
lostn

@Superzone Because they thought the 90 million Wii owners would see the Wii name and instantly buy it. They didn't know Wii owners were not playing their Wiis anymore and the fad is over.

 Maybe they should have just called it Wii 2. Everyone understands that an iPhone 5 is not an addon for the iPhone 4, but a new generation of the phone. They should be smart enough to figure out that Wii 2 is not a peripheral but an all new console. Wii U on the other hand is as murky as it's going to be. It makes me wonder what they can possibly call the next console. Will they drop the Wii name altogether, or go with Wii Us? 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@shadowboy88 

Ooo, I like the idea of reviving SEGA IPs, seriously, SEGA was my absolute favorite developer growing up and many of their games still rank as my all time favorites. I wish SEGA would go to Nintendo for help on bringing back many of their IPs that faded away, the level of polish that Nintendo brings to their games would be perfect for SEGA's games. 

fattgt
fattgt

@freedom01 @thequickshooter If Sony thought they could make money selling those PSP games here, they would. But they don't, so they don't. If Nintendo is having the same problem, this system is going to go the way of the PSP.

nisgos
nisgos

@HerbalVideogame @hitechgraphs  Actually this is a good move , not like ea who is convinced that they can do no wrong and they go on crying on how they were labbled the worst company .


Well at least they are not apple who aould probably say > no u are using the console wrong , that's why u dont enjoy it.

Emoboii93
Emoboii93

@slipknotmaggot1 @Emoboii93   Everyone was a casual Nintendo gamer at somepoint, Nobody wants to see Nintendo go down.

Everyone has a spot in their heart for Nintendo .  It will be next gen For nintendo because It's 50% stronger than 360 And ps3 . And so much stronger than the Wii.

Nintendo knows what they're doing, It isn't last gen because it will have 5-6 year of gamking time where as this gen has about half a year left.  

Emoboii93
Emoboii93

@veryDERPY @Emoboii93  Your point is valid, although The sales of the Wii u being twice that of launch sales of ps3 speaks for itself. 


There was just a greater deficit in the amount of hardware.

Persydark
Persydark

gran turismo and Im not buying one, let alone ten consoles just so I can continue to play one game. To you I say, don't buy a Wii u, get a ps4 when they eventually decide to hit the shelves. That way we might be lucky enough to not hear from you again. Have fun with that

Yondaro
Yondaro

@Emoboii93 @veryDERPY Only cause of the price point. Nintendo's best selling strategy is just to have a lower price. Not provide better products

Do you HONESTLY think the Wii would have outsold every other console if it wasn't made from what Iwata found in his backyard?