Nintendo "very aware" of requests for unified Wii U, 3DS account systems

Company says it has "definitely" heard internal and external feedback regarding lack of unified account systems for Wii U and 3DS.

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Nintendo is "very much aware" of requests for unified Wii U and 3DS account systems, according Nintendo of America manager of business development Dan Adelman.

"We don't have anything new to announce, unfortunately, other than we've definitely heard that feedback many times from both inside and outside the company," Adelman told Destructoid. "It's definitely something that we're very much aware of."

"All development for the infrastructure really happens out of Japan, so we've kind of communicated this need in the market, and they're very much aware of it and working towards really just always improving the eShop," he added.

Currently, all Wii U and 3DS downloads are linked to the hardware itself. By comparison, downloaded content for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are tied to a profile that can be transferred to a new system.

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GH05T-666
GH05T-666

They need to have an account so if you break or want to buy a new 3DS or WiiU you can keep all of the virtual console games or other games you may have paid for and downloaded.

Ultramarinus
Ultramarinus

European eShop blows, regretful owner of 3DS XL here.

DarkSaber2k
DarkSaber2k

"Please understand" that they heard but they just don't give a fuck.

bannermanner
bannermanner

Not really sure I care about linking my Wii U and 3DS; "connected" and Nintendo" go together about as well as hemlock and motor oil.

dfrulers
dfrulers

Until they put Flash or HTML 5 on The 3DS I am going to keep playing my PS3 and Vita and I am going to put my 3DS away I have a feeling for a long time. Should have known you couldnt deliver

OuroborosChoked
OuroborosChoked

"We are very aware"... we just don't give a shit.  Got it.

I guess I'll keep not giving a shit about your products, then...

rawkstar007
rawkstar007

Of all the things Nintendo can be "very aware" of, THIS is what they choose to acknowledge?

Dennarai
Dennarai

Very aware, just ignoring to provide you with the shittiest online experience possible!  =D

Anthony Zombo
Anthony Zombo

If Microsoft and Sony are so great. Why did do they copy Nintendo's idea? Sony All Stars, PS Move, The Kinect, Sackby being the friendly Mascot of Sony, and Kinect Sports. All those things sound very familiar. Remember Microsoft tried to screw everyone over with their DMR restrictions. Remember when Nintendo sold The Ultra 64 to Sony and that's how Sony came up with the PS1. Yeah, Nintendo and Sony do help each other out and both presidents of Nintendo and Sony buy each other consoles because they like the exclusives they have to offer.

Paul Smith
Paul Smith

Sonic Lost World, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Bayonetta 2, Rayman Legends along with many others. Yes i know these aren't out yet but they're coming out soon and don't forget Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8 as well.

Jeremy Kalman
Jeremy Kalman

nope. wii u is finished... rip.... stick with handhelds

amk11
amk11

This is a good sign then. 

We might see a new account system in the future. 

armodillo17
armodillo17

Ok, can people (especially those who are supposed to be journalists) PLEASE stop propagating the myth that Wii U/3DS games are tied to the system? Your games ARE tied to an account (nintendo network id), and the account is tied to the system. It's still annoying, but it's not the same thing. For example, with the Wii, if you console breaks, all your WiiWare games are gone, but with the Wii U and 3DS, if your system breaks, you can contact Nintendo and get permission to redownload them on your new system. How would they know what you're allowed to download if it weren't tracked with an account?

It is not nearly as good as how accounts work with Sony/MS, and the fact that the 3DS and Wii U accounts can't be unified is really irritating, but it DOES NOT mean that your games are tied to the system. You just have to contact Nintendo when you want to redownload them.

SirApathetic005
SirApathetic005

Don't like to bash Nintendo (especially here since everyone and their mother loves to do that on GameSpot), but I hope they're aware that they have yet to do the "Fall Update" for the Wii U...where is it? I really hope we get it soon >_> Don't like it when game companies break promises.

Jon Taylor
Jon Taylor

Bayonetta 2 sonic the lost world and mario kart 8 is reason enough to by wii u.

Agret
Agret

@bannermanner If you could have linked accounts you wouldn't have to buy the same virtual console game twice to play it on both systems.

Agret
Agret

@dfrulers I think they should work on making the eShop not a complete mess and making some decent games for the platform rather than adding stuff to the browser, just use your phone if you want to browse the net.

Agret
Agret

@Shango4 lol not gonna happen, Wii U is not powerful enough.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

@Anthony Zombo 

Dont forget they are already copying Nintendo's ideas again for the new gen consoles by using tablets like xbox smart glass and ps vita screens like the WiiU game pad is used.

dfrulers
dfrulers

@Anthony Zombo actually Microsoft and Nintendo Copied Sony because Sony had Eye Toy for the PS2 which was the same concept which came out way before the Wii 

OuroborosChoked
OuroborosChoked

@Anthony Zombo Apparently you're unaware of the fact that there are SEVERAL game series that use the damage percent system... It's not just Smash Bros., bro.

And Sackboy being a mascot is copying Nintendo? How?  Does that mean Nintendo copied someone by making Mario their mascot?  Nintendo wasn't the first or the last game company to have a mascot character, you know...

Nintendo sold the N64 to Sony? WHAAT? Do you like literally have shit for brains?  The PS1 came about after Nintendo burned Sony on their CD peripheral add on for the SNES: the Play Station.  Sony didn't want their money going to waste... so they modified and released it as its own console.  The PS1 had nothing to do with the N64... other than completely pwning it.

speedracer3190
speedracer3190

@Anthony ZomboI know this is a late reply but here goes.

"Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal" I think that is how the saying goes. Eventually things get better when companies copy and make it better.
just play the game because it is fun and you like it. Let the companies decide who is stealing and who isn't.

blkgsr
blkgsr

@Jeremy Kalman yep the wii u is doing bad now but just wait until the one and ps4 hit shelves its gonna get worse. and i have a wii u and its good at one thing collecting dust 

amk11
amk11

@Jeremy Kalman In YOUR opinion. not fact. brah 

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@armodillo17 Oh, get their "permission" to download your own property?  

Fuck.  That.

Plus there's constant horror stories about Nintendo standing in the way at every turn in trying to reclaim your game library in these situations.

telaros
telaros

@armodillo17 I think you missed the point. Possibly. But this is about being able to use your eShop bought titles cross-platforms and not just Wii U OR 3DS.

So if I wanted to play the original Icarus, that I bought on my 3DS through the eShop on my Wii U, I would have to buy ANOTHER copy of the game just to be allowed to play on my Wii U.

You have to pay for the same game you already own essentially TWICE.

3DS and Wii U just weren't well thought out pieces of hardware. They were designed as two seperate things that look like they can mesh well, but were never intended to.

At the very least, Nintendo can at least try to allow us the BASIC right to link our account to share cross-platform games between systems that we own. No more of that buying one copy for each bullcrap.

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

@Zachary Collins Not really. I have quite a few achievements on my XBOX profile, but they aren't important.

amk11
amk11

@Zachary Collins No... No it doesnt. If you dont have one for that reason you are a huge dumbass

regix416_basic
regix416_basic

@Jon Taylor Well, Mario Kart 8 better return local multiplayer to the game or I'm not touching it.  Bayonetta 2... well, the E3 videos I saw made me shudder at the game's looks so I sure hope it gets better before it's officially released next summer but Sonic DID look promising... IF it's done right.

DanPhi11ips
DanPhi11ips

@BladeOverload The difference being that Sony sells products in many other area's, were as Nintendo doesn't. Thats why sony are able to do that in the first place, and not go broke, as they are making millions or even billions in the other markets they they part take in.

Agret
Agret

@amk11 In the last quarter it has sold only 10,000 units across Europe + Australia. An Australian retailer last week sold all WiiU stock and are no longer carrying it because sales were non-existent. You think the release of next-gen consoles is going to improve Wii U sales?

armodillo17
armodillo17

@Thanatos2k By get their permission, I just mean get them to un-sync your account to the broken/old hardware so that you can sync it to the new one. Once that's done, you just sign in to the eShop and can re-download anything you did before. I have no experience having to do this, so I can't say either way, but I haven't heard any horror stories. I've only read of a few people who have had to do it, and they said it was easy, but who knows. Maybe you're right.

As for the property issue, that is an issue with any downloadable game, not an issue with Nintendo. Pretty much any software you download, you don't own the software, only the license to use it. It's a horrible system, but we can't act like Nintendo is the problem there.

armodillo17
armodillo17

@telaros No, I get that completely. Mr. Makuch is the one who seems to be confused, since, at the end of the article he wrote: 

"Currently, all Wii U and 3DS downloads are linked to the hardware itself. By comparison, downloaded content for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are tied to a profile that can be transferred to a new system."

That's what I was responding to.

Agret
Agret

@amk11 They already have accomplishment list on the club nintendo profile, expanding it to games would not be a huge stretch. It doesn't matter either way to me though but it's cool to have something to show others for 100% completing a game.

regix416_basic
regix416_basic

@dark_zero_86 @SirApathetic005 You SOOOO want to be hurt don't you?  At least the Wii U and 3DS GET updates... the poor Wii was abandoned and now it's just a rock.  ~_~.  Perhaps this has already been answered but does the 'U upscale Wii games at all or are they still in their dull 480P when you play them on a 'U? 

crocodileman94
crocodileman94

@DanPhi11ips @BladeOverload But if the heads of Sony think that their gaming division isn't profitable, the might get the idea to close it down. Not that I think it will happen, with all the praise the PS4 is getting, but still...

amk11
amk11

@Agret @amk11 So out of my comment you got all that. You must be one of the dumbest people on the planet. 

Again, his OPINION, not fact. 

armodillo17
armodillo17

@Thanatos2k  "No real recordkeeping"? What does that even mean? What do you think the Nintendo Netowrk ID is?

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@armodillo17 I still have a legal right to download the game when I have a license from Steam, Origin, PSN, XBL, wherever.  All I need is my account. 

Not so with Nintendo!  They have no real recordkeeping.  Like your icon, it seems they're still stuck in 1996.

Agret
Agret

@armodillo17 @telaros This is correct information. If you sell your WiiU/3DS and buy a new one then sign in with your club Nintendo account you will not be able to re-download your old games. You can contact Nintendo like that guy recently in the media who lost over $400 of purchases and after many lengthy back and forths they may provide you with store credit for 50% of your accounts total value so that you can re-purchase half of your games. Not a very good solution compared to Sony/Microsoft where you can just sign in your account and re-download everything.