Nintendo unveils subscription-based Pokemon X and Y cloud storage

Nintendo announces Pokemon Bank to allow Pokemon X and Y players to store Pokemon in the cloud; Limited edition 3DS XL and classic starting Pokemon also revealed.

Nintendo has announced the Pokemon Bank for Pokemon X and Y, a premium downloadable application that stores players' collected Pokemon online.

Pokemon Bank will require an annual subscription, though Nintendo did not divulge the fee. A free trial of the service will be available, Nintendo adds.

Pokemon Bank lets players upload up to 3000 Pokemon into the cloud, view them online, and then transfer them back into Pokemon X and Y when the 3DS is connected to the Internet.

The application will also allow users to use the Pokemon Transporter, allowing players to carry over collected Pokemon from Pokemon Black and White to Pokemon X and Y.

Along with Pokemon X and Y's three starter Pokemon--Chespin, Froakie, and Fennekin--the upcoming 3DS game will allow players to pick from either Charmander, Bulbasaur, or Squirtle from the original Pokemon Red and Blue.

Iwata also confirmed that the limited edition red Pokemon X and blue Pokemon Y 3DS XL models, previously only confirmed for Japan, would be released in North America and Europe on September 27.

Pokemon X and Y will be released worldwide on October 12, alongside Nintendo's new budget-focused revision of the 3DS: the Nintendo 2DS.

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217 comments
Adman-500
Adman-500

Do they know alt of kids play Pokemon? can we all pay with Monopoly money? ;)

wgerardi
wgerardi

Did you guys know that before humans Pokeman's used to roam Japan with the dinosaurs? Pokeman's have all been fossilized now though so we can use them to fuel our cars. Or our wars.

Thank you Pokeman's for your Christ-like sacrifice.

greenpolyp
greenpolyp

It's about time. Do you know I had to buy a Ds XL just to transfer and evolve Pokemon.

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

Hang on, let's get back to this whole "Pokémon Bank" thing...

"The application will also allow users to use the Pokemon Transporter, allowing players to carry over collected Pokemon from Pokemon Black and White to Pokemon X and Y."

Does this mean that the ONLY way to transfer 'Mon from previous generations is via this paid service?

Further, what kind of storage can we expect to have "in-game"? Have the in-game PCs been removed in favour of this?

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

You had me sold at Charmander..

Shut up and take my money.

ominous_prime
ominous_prime

This is cool if they continue to use it with future installments of Pokemon games.

ziqi92
ziqi92

Well I'm satisfied. MEGA CHARIZARD FTW.

ptflea1
ptflea1

Damn kids today, why, back in my day we needed a tangled mess of cables to do anything remotely social. Now you can connect with anyone in the world without any effort at all...well, i guess that's for the best, i had a kid chasing me round the playground foaming at the mouth cos i wouldn't give back his mewtwo. But anyway i digress, the idea of making people pay for bills pc is ridiculous. Parents are gonna be buying these silly 2ds devices and a week later their credit cards will be maxed out from a multitude of micro transactions.

RainIsMyDrug
RainIsMyDrug

gotta make some xtra $ to cover for the WiiU lost

philly215
philly215

people still play pokemon?....

toddx77
toddx77

I can start with Bulbasaur?  This game just got even better.

grbolivar
grbolivar

A Pokemon data structure in Gen 4 is just 136 bytes long. 136 * 3000 = 408000 bytes = 398KB = 0.3MB. So you'll actually be paying for LESS than 1MB of online space, so small they could store the entire Pokemon collection of all players in the world in a cheap 1-2TB hard drive...

And they will surelly charge you like $30-50 a year for that.

This should be free, or at most $5 a year...

Sauce: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_data_structure_in_Generation_IV

Puck269
Puck269

The bank feature is disappointing.  I was actually looking forward to them having a separate pokemon box like thing on the 3ds memory (since all 3ds's have an SD card) starting this generation moving forward.  Then you could have unlimited storage based on how big your SD card is.  This would then allow transfers to future generations because they would access the SD card the same way they are proposing for this cloud.

This is kinda anti-Nintendo almost... they usually don't put in basic features to the game require online service (transferring pokes from one gen to the next I consider a basic pokemon feature nowadays).  I wonder what local/non-online solution they will have to transferring pokes this generation.  I can't imagine this being the only way to transfer pokemon.

I wonder if this is actually more as a way to weed out illegal pokes getting transferred into the new generation, more then anything else.  Having to upload your poke to a server will make it so it has to have an authentication check much like the GTS before being allowed to be moved.  Although, Nintendo is so behind the times that unless the cloud service updates the basic pokemon file while on the system before moving it onwards, people will be able to easily fake the server much like they do to download hacked PC pokemon into their games.  

nicke2195
nicke2195

I'd really like it if I could use a feature like that to back up pokemon or something, rather than just store them. If my files ever corrupted for some reason, I'd really like to not have to worry about losing any beloved pixels, such as my shinies or high leveled pokemon (but mainly my shinies). And I'd like to still be able to have them on the actual game...

Big_Pecks
Big_Pecks

It feels sort of criminal to charge for a feature that's been free for every game, but it could be much worse. 

nechiken
nechiken

10 years ago all of these gaming features would have been included with the damn game. Now we're just consumers to be nickel and dimed. The fact that people are loyal to companies and products disgusts me.

TomoEK9
TomoEK9

The only good news is that G1 starters are back!

DarthLod
DarthLod

Wow...Nintendo just keeps the bullshit coming.

Hurvl
Hurvl

"Pokemon Bank lets players upload up to 3000 Pokemon into the cloud" Wow, I didn't think there were more than a few hundred pokemon, but I'm probably missing something here, like adding pokemon from different characters or something. That could add up to more than a few hundred.

LordelX
LordelX

Hey Nintendo,

How about creating a cloud service for all of the downloadable games I've bought just in case my 3DS breaks....

hydrobeast
hydrobeast

"The application will also allow users to use the Pokemon Transporter, allowing players to carry over collected Pokemon from Pokemon Black and White to Pokemon X and Y" So I have to get it in order to do the trade through time. I see what your doing there, also who really needs 3000 storage space for pokemon, besides the hard core pokemon players. I only usually catch on average about 105 - 120 per game

Double_Wide
Double_Wide

I question what Nintendo will do to make this profitable...as in reducing the PC space in game.

This seems like another attempt to monitor who's hacking their pokemon

Koobie88
Koobie88

I'm just happy I can have both Froakie and Bulbasaur :D! 

starduke
starduke

New Pokemon 3DS XL bundles, eh? Glad I waited to get one. 

More about them, please!

grbolivar
grbolivar

I just hope they don't reduce in-game Pokemon storage to like 50 Pokemon total so to force you to pay the "fee" on this online storage.....

toshineon
toshineon

Seems decent enough, like how Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire had that Box game for the GameCube.

GunBladeHero
GunBladeHero

Subscription based? C'mon nintendo that's just lame.

ziqi92
ziqi92

@Shanks_D_Chop Unlikely on the in-game PC part. They're using a paid service because they intend for Pokemon Bank to be compatible for all future generations of Pokemon games. The in-game PC system will not be removed (we will raise a shitstorm otherwise).

However, you will need Pokemon Bank to transfer your past-gen Pokemon over. At least Nintendo will give you a free trial period for Pokemon Bank if you're unwilling to make the $5/year investment.

toshineon
toshineon

@ptflea1 "the idea of making people pay for bills pc is ridiculous. Parents are gonna be buying these silly 2ds devices and a week later their credit cards will be maxed out from a multitude of micro transactions"

That's not how it works. The in-game PC storage won't be removed. This is for extra storage online and for transfering over Pokémon from older games. The fee is $5/year, so it's not very expensive either. But with all the bullshit many other companies have tried to pull lately, I can see why it's easy to be cynical.

Senor_Kami
Senor_Kami

@philly215 To the tune of nearly or above double digit millions like clockwork.  You're not in touch with reality.

Wawas20
Wawas20

@toddx77 yeah im happy about that too but ill pick char or squirtle. but y did i buy a dsi last year over spending another 30 on ebay to get the 3ds.. now if i buy a 3ds or 2ds ill have 3 ds's just sitting there. i only play pokemon on my ds nothing else matters

ratchet200
ratchet200

@grbolivar They could even just have us pay a one-time payment for the thing and that be the end of it. But a subscription is just silly.

ziqi92
ziqi92

@grbolivar This service is actually only 500 Yen per year. This will translate to about $5 per year. What's the worry then?

dark_zero_86
dark_zero_86

@nechiken Do you have 500 Pokemon to transfer over? I'm guessing no, so what are you bitching about exactly? Chances are they'll still have the old, slow way of doing it too.

SirNormanislost
SirNormanislost

@GunBladeHero  "annual subscription"

so pay once for the year if its more than £5 for what is more than likely 50meg of cloud space I would be amazed

toddx77
toddx77

@Wawas20 Just put the DS's on ebay, that is what I am going to do.  I am going to sell my DS to put towards a 2DS for Pokemon.  I can play my Advance games on my SP and my DS games on the 2DS so I really have no point to keep my DS.

ziqi92
ziqi92

@ratchet200 @grbolivar That's unreasonable since they intend to make the Bank system compatible for all future generations. If Bank was a 6th gen only thing, then yes, a one time payment (or no payment at all) would make sense.

Panorama12
Panorama12

@grbolivar @GunBladeHero you have space for 3000 pokemon you id**t.

shinta125
shinta125

@grbolivar The ballpark is around $5 because the japan Pokémon Direct showed 500 yen in the picture. Even if it's bumped to $10 that's very little to pay per year.

SirNormanislost
SirNormanislost

@Panorama12 you realise how big the data file for a pokemon is right? you are not storing the picture of it all that information is in the game what you are actually storing is a text file containing what the pokemon is (also its custom name if made) and then its stats so its level and current attributes

that is an utterly tiny amount of information per pokemon he is not an idiot you just have no idea what you are talking about

hydrobeast
hydrobeast

but honestly who really collects 3000 pokemon in one game?