Nintendo: Revolution will be cheapest next-gen console

Reggie Fils-Aime tells CNN/Money that his company expects to undercut rivals; hints at DS redesign, rules out HD support.

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The Revolution remains the most mysterious of the three next-generation consoles. With only the barest of system specs, and no tech demos, little is known about the device--or what is so "revolutionary" about it. So far, its most innovative features are a unique controller and repeated statements by its maker, Nintendo, that it will appeal to a vast untapped market of nongamers.

Today, though, one of Nintendo's most public faces said the Revolution will also stand out from its competition for another big reason: price. Speaking to CNN/Money correspondent Chris Morris, Reggie Fils-Aime, executive vice president of sales and marketing, predicted that the Revolution would be cheaper than both the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3.

"Value has been a key card for us this generation, and we'll continue to play it," Fils-Aime told Morris. "Do I expect us to be at a lower price point than our competition? Yes, I do. Have we determined a price yet? No, we haven't."

How low will Nintendo go? It's hard to tell. Rumors of a $199 Revolution are running rampant in forums, though there is nothing concrete to support such an assumption. However, it would have to be below the only known next-gen price points. Microsoft is selling two Xbox 360 SKUs--the no-frills $299 "core" Xbox and the $399 standard model with hard drive and wireless remote.

In his interview with Morris, Fils-Aime also reiterated that the Revolution will not support high-definition televisions. "What we'll offer in terms of gameplay and approachability will more than make up for the lack of HD," he said. Both Microsoft and Sony are making much of the 360 and PS3's HD capabilities.

Fils-Aime also implied that the DS will see redesigns, just as the Game Boy Advance has. "As soon as [the DS] was launched, we started looking at ways to tweak it visually," he told Morris.

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mrcanfwhoopass
mrcanfwhoopass

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lhardwick692
lhardwick692

its cool that nintendo is showing that the next generation isnt about making everyone go out and pay 2000 to 20,000 dollars for a brand new tv just to play games in high definition.i agree that sony has put to much emphasis on the hi-def generation--although nintendo should make the availability of high definition games for people that have hd-tv's for those of us that has a hd-tv. now only thing bugging me is the controller--sure they can release the controller but they also should release a different one for those of us use to the regular controllers..

limpspringgod
limpspringgod

I'm looking down on revolution. I think nintendo's new president is like the disease to nintendo's true colors. He totally screwed them up since he been working there. Yes, he made the perfect 10 and disputedly the best game of all time LOZ: Ocarina of Time but he also was the brains behind the cel-shaded zelda, the gamecube, and this latest console. I don't believe that a system can compete without graphics and if the revolution is only going to be 2 or 3 time faster than the gamecube, it's going to be just as powerful or ever so slightly more powerful than only the first xbox. I think Revolution will be continuing total failure of the gamecube. As long as Nintendo keeps telling itself that it wants price and gaming experience and doesn't compete in hardware, they will just keep falling to the ground...and fast!

priest17
priest17

Wait why is every one b itching about the REV. There is no point of home consoles to only go for great grafics becouse the PC will slauter them, but with something revolutionary like the REV it could be worth the price And I leave my comment with this: if u havent got a GC buy the REV its cheap and even if REV games turn out lame u can still play great GC games and classic n64,SNES and NES games

danaman117
danaman117

Great More redesigns of the DS after i shelled out 150 dollars for it when it first came out, why dont we stick to supporting the systems that we make! instead of making a new one that will have new features and shamming the ones that bought them when they first came out. Then they will start making new games that can only be played on the newer DS's. Im getting sick of dishing my top dollars out and soon as they get enoguh money from it they drop support of that one and focus on the newer ones. Nintendos rep with me and several others has been going downhill more and more everyday. They need to make solid 1 design systems and support them! changing the designs aftarwards shows that you feel the older one wasnt good enough. well if it wasnt good enough then why the heck did i buy it!!!!! tell me that nintendo.

BVP16
BVP16

A: The official codename for the successor to GameCube. Q: Is 'Revolution' the final name of Nintendo's new console? A: No. Nintendo confirmed at E3 2005 that the title 'Revolution' is a codename. A final name for the new console has not yet been selected. It should be noted, however, that the company said the same thing of Nintendo DS, which ultimately proved to be the handheld's official name. Q: When was the Nintendo Revolution codename announced? A:: On May 11, 2004 at Nintendo's pre-Electronics Entertainment Expo 2004 press conference, which took place in Los Angeles, California. (The console had been tentatively referred to as "GCNext" by press before the unveiling of the official codename.) Q: Who announced the codename Nintendo Revolution? A: Nintendo president Satoru Iwata. On stage at Nintendo's pre-E3 2004 press conference, Iwata said: "Different also defines our approach to our next home system. It won't simply be new or include new technologies. Better technology is good, but not enough. Today's consoles already offer fairly realistic expressions so simply beefing up the graphics will not let most of us see a difference. So what should a new machine do? Much more. An unprecedented gameplay experience. Something no other machine has delivered before. "The definition for a new machine must be different. I want you to know that Nintendo is working on our next system and that system will create a gaming revolution. Internal development is underway. "I could give you our technical specs, as I'd know you'd like that, but I won't for a simple reason: they really don't matter. The time when horsepower alone made all the difference is over. "Work on Revolution is well underway. When you see it you will be excited because you will experience a gaming revolution." Q: How long has the Revolution been in development? A: Preliminary development on Revolution began shortly after the release of Nintendo GameCube. Q: Will Revolution feature more powerful hardware than GameCube? A: Yes. Q: What are Revolution's technical specs? A: Mostly unknown. In March 2005, both IBM and ATI confirmed that they have been making the CPU and GPU for Revolution respectively. In April 2005, MoSys, which supplied RAM for GameCube, announced that it would also be providing the memory solution for Revolution. At E3 2005, Nintendo said that with Revolution it is aiming to make a "small, quiet and affordable console." It stressed this point and avoided direct questions about technical specifications. Nintendo executives also stated that the company is not interested in engaging in a technical battle with competitors Sony and Microsoft. In an interview with IGNcube, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto offered further insight: "You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console," he said. "If you look at trying to incorporate all that, of course we might not have the horsepower that some other companies have, but if you look at the numbers that they're throwing out, are those numbers going to be used in-game? I mean, those are just numbers that somebody just crunched up on a calculator. We could throw out a bunch of numbers, too, but what we're going to do is wait until our chips are done and we're going to find out how everything in the game is running, what its peak performance is, and those are the numbers that we're going to release because those are the numbers that really count." In an interview with the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata elaborated on the company's philosophy where next-generation technology is concerned: "Sony and Microsoft are taking about the same approach for the future by making machines with powerful and sophisticated technology. Nintendo is taking a little bit different approach, and I think this is an interesting contrast," Iwata said. "Of course, we are applying advances in technology. But when you use those advances just to boost the processing power, the trade-off is that you increase power consumption, make the machine more expensive and make developing games more expensive. When I look at the balance of that trade-off -- what you gain and what you lose -- I don't think it's good. Nintendo is applying the benefits of advanced technology, but we're using it to make our machines more power-efficient, quieter and faster to start. And we're making a brand-new user interface. I think that way of thinking is the biggest difference." Reports from development studios seem to second these statements. Software houses in the know have suggested that Revolution will not be as powerful as Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. Nintendo has revealed that Revolution will be backward compatible with GameCube, play both GCN discs and proprietary new 12cm discs, go online via Wi-Fi connections, be able to download software from the Internet, use 512MB flash memory to save data, and feature wireless controllers. In addition, the console will boast two USB 2.0 ports.

BVP16
BVP16

A: The official codename for the successor to GameCube. Q: Is 'Revolution' the final name of Nintendo's new console? A: No. Nintendo confirmed at E3 2005 that the title 'Revolution' is a codename. A final name for the new console has not yet been selected. It should be noted, however, that the company said the same thing of Nintendo DS, which ultimately proved to be the handheld's official name. Q: When was the Nintendo Revolution codename announced? A:: On May 11, 2004 at Nintendo's pre-Electronics Entertainment Expo 2004 press conference, which took place in Los Angeles, California. (The console had been tentatively referred to as "GCNext" by press before the unveiling of the official codename.) Q: Who announced the codename Nintendo Revolution? A: Nintendo president Satoru Iwata. On stage at Nintendo's pre-E3 2004 press conference, Iwata said: "Different also defines our approach to our next home system. It won't simply be new or include new technologies. Better technology is good, but not enough. Today's consoles already offer fairly realistic expressions so simply beefing up the graphics will not let most of us see a difference. So what should a new machine do? Much more. An unprecedented gameplay experience. Something no other machine has delivered before. "The definition for a new machine must be different. I want you to know that Nintendo is working on our next system and that system will create a gaming revolution. Internal development is underway. "I could give you our technical specs, as I'd know you'd like that, but I won't for a simple reason: they really don't matter. The time when horsepower alone made all the difference is over. "Work on Revolution is well underway. When you see it you will be excited because you will experience a gaming revolution." Q: How long has the Revolution been in development? A: Preliminary development on Revolution began shortly after the release of Nintendo GameCube. Q: Will Revolution feature more powerful hardware than GameCube? A: Yes. Q: What are Revolution's technical specs? A: Mostly unknown. In March 2005, both IBM and ATI confirmed that they have been making the CPU and GPU for Revolution respectively. In April 2005, MoSys, which supplied RAM for GameCube, announced that it would also be providing the memory solution for Revolution. At E3 2005, Nintendo said that with Revolution it is aiming to make a "small, quiet and affordable console." It stressed this point and avoided direct questions about technical specifications. Nintendo executives also stated that the company is not interested in engaging in a technical battle with competitors Sony and Microsoft. In an interview with IGNcube, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto offered further insight: "You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console," he said. "If you look at trying to incorporate all that, of course we might not have the horsepower that some other companies have, but if you look at the numbers that they're throwing out, are those numbers going to be used in-game? I mean, those are just numbers that somebody just crunched up on a calculator. We could throw out a bunch of numbers, too, but what we're going to do is wait until our chips are done and we're going to find out how everything in the game is running, what its peak performance is, and those are the numbers that we're going to release because those are the numbers that really count." In an interview with the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata elaborated on the company's philosophy where next-generation technology is concerned: "Sony and Microsoft are taking about the same approach for the future by making machines with powerful and sophisticated technology. Nintendo is taking a little bit different approach, and I think this is an interesting contrast," Iwata said. "Of course, we are applying advances in technology. But when you use those advances just to boost the processing power, the trade-off is that you increase power consumption, make the machine more expensive and make developing games more expensive. When I look at the balance of that trade-off -- what you gain and what you lose -- I don't think it's good. Nintendo is applying the benefits of advanced technology, but we're using it to make our machines more power-efficient, quieter and faster to start. And we're making a brand-new user interface. I think that way of thinking is the biggest difference." Reports from development studios seem to second these statements. Software houses in the know have suggested that Revolution will not be as powerful as Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. Nintendo has revealed that Revolution will be backward compatible with GameCube, play both GCN discs and proprietary new 12cm discs, go online via Wi-Fi connections, be able to download software from the Internet, use 512MB flash memory to save data, and feature wireless controllers. In addition, the console will boast two USB 2.0 ports.

zeldamaster643
zeldamaster643

You see, i dont understand why PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE NINTENDO WOULD GO TO A BOARD THATS TALKING ABOUT THE REV AND TELL US THAT WE SUCK AND THE REV SUX! OMG IM MAD! anyway, I think the rev is going to be very good and i think the rev will be just as good as the other consoles. Most people judge consoles because their favorite games are on that console. And some people might not want to stand up and swing the controller for a sword, but im sure nintendos gonna have the standard "press b to swing sword" anyway, we cant judge the sytems until they are all out.

BVP16
BVP16

I think the Revolution will be $299. I also think it will come out in April. But I'm not positive on either of these things.

RabidRabbit
RabidRabbit

i dont care what any body say NINTENDO IS THE BEST

leo323
leo323

Well by the looks of it, the revolution looks like a pretty cool system but I feel as if this is Nintendo's last attempt to revive itself. Gamecube wasnt as impresive as the other systems. If the revolution flops Nintendo might end up like Sega.

sergioalb64
sergioalb64

It could be smaller, better sound and possibly (hopefully) brighter screens; and of course, a more durable lower screen. It could be reshaped and have bigger buttons, and so I think it would be good to see a new DS D-sign.

XGamer1989
XGamer1989

i think thats it way better that they are going for less cost over some little difference in graphics that wont affect the fun factor... and the DS getting a makeover? how can you argue? that thing is huge and misshapen, if they make an SP kind of DS then ill consider getting one

evilecko56
evilecko56

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trukosh
trukosh

Just disappointing... They don't know if revolution is gonna be better, but what's sure is that's gonna be cheaper!? where's the fun in that? is it or is it not all about the gamer's fun? Sure, budget plays an important role, but it's still a secondary role!

trukosh
trukosh

Just disappointing... They don't know if revolution is gonna be better, but what's sure is that's gonna be cheaper!? where's the fun in that? is it or is it not all about the gamer's fun? Sure, budget plays an important role, but it's still a secondary role!

misteros
misteros

AGHHHHH, no more redisgns, I dont have the money for that stuff LAME

dman112
dman112

revolution cheaper than $400! thats great more money for lunch, and im starting to realize the nintendo philosophy in this next gen war starting with just the controller itself. Its time for a major shake in this industry and looks like nintendo will lead it, hd can always be upgraded to later, kudos to nintendo to make a system for gamers and not for rich folk.

YearoftheSnake5
YearoftheSnake5

BAH HUMBUG! They're going to make redesigns of the DS?! I don't understand the bloody point. They should make the DS perfect for lauch rather than "tweak" it later.

Nkenobi
Nkenobi

Revolution sounds both good and bad. I can imagine how cool some FPS might be with the controller. But for playing my all time favorite game Zelda, I would love a normal controller so I can sit back and enjoy it like I always do. Don't even go into technology crap, the specs aren't even announced!!! For all we know this thing could be more powerful than the PS3. And a lower price doesn't always mean less quality, look at the Game Cube, it was cheapest, more solid than a PS2, and crashed 10% of the time an Xbox did. I don't use my Xbox or PS2 DVD player anyways... I already have a DVD player. And Nintendo always has the best games, and those, are what sells me a system. And I think redesigning the DS is kind of lame, rather than making a new handheld or something. The Micro is WAY to small l to even see, and I would strain my eyes looking at it.

cracoal
cracoal

you guys are thinking way to much, if you had read the first few things about the rev. ninetendo said that you would be able to download games from the internet, ones that are on the old systems, im not saying that my nes doesnt work anymore, but it will be nice getting to play some of my alltime favourite games from nes, snes, and 64 without and problems with the signal cause the cartrige is so old.

Vigilance000
Vigilance000

The revolution (especially now with its new controller) is going to suck or become the next wave of game system. It has barely shown whats it's capable of. Don't condemn it before you have even put your hands on its obscure controller.

AAAGAMER
AAAGAMER

not until nintendo CONFIRMS game boy revolution will we be certain that it is indeed being released at some time. I've seen the the pages on what the system is going to be like vaguelly, but you can't rely on stuff like that because it could be either 100% **** **** ass bull**** or 100% **** true

AAAGAMER
AAAGAMER

Alot of these things are just speculation and they are not CONFIRMED yet, like game boy revolution.

Sparda177
Sparda177

*yawn* nintendo is still the best multiplayer gaming system.....(my favorite :P, sony is pissing me off with all of the sh*t*y sequels)

mastersonar
mastersonar

Alright for Nintendo! Hello, my name is cheap and I don't have freaking HD TV and until they become as cheap as regular TVs, I don't think I will be getting one (unless I become instantly rich) for quite some time, and I'm not getting Xbox 360 until the price drops significantly or it shows me that it has some games that I have to buy the system for. Redesign the DS? Sure, look how it turned out for the GBA, the first time. C'mon Nintendo, just don't go on overkill with the redesigns it'll be fine. An SD slot would be cool, and a more light weight design, brighter screens, and a larger, harder-to-lose stylus would be a plus. I forever have and forever will be faithful to Nintendo, as long as they remain to be faithful to me. Personally, I'm buying a Revolution. Y'all can screw yourselves with your overpriced, style over substance Xboxes and Playstations.

drank321
drank321

...199$ ?? omg ... Here in the Dominican Republic ... a 99$ Gamecube in the US is sold at 180$ Gamecube ... so.. what could be a 199$ in the Dominican Republic ... a almos 350$ ?? omg we all are gonna be broke =P..

DaMoose52
DaMoose52

ROFLMAO AT THAT LAST COMMENT! I have but one simple thing to day: Nothing can be judged until played. Nobody can possibly claim that the PS3 is going to be the best, or the 360 is going to be the best, or the Revloution is going to be the best, until they have played ALL THREE, and even then, its going to be a matter of their opinion. Aside from that; Nintendo have already announced development of the next GB, so don't worry about the DS taking over or anything. A DS redesign isn't a bad thing, IMO, as the current design just plain sucks. No HDTV? Big deal. I don't have one anyway, and it'll send the price up. No specs yet? Who cares? We've seen what has happened before with specs for example, I remember the PS2 launch when Sony pumped up its system like never before, whilst running CG demos of what they THOUGHT the system could do, but the system fell remarkably short in that department. And all the Sony fanboys claiming the PS3 will be the best because it has the best graphics need a life; Sony used CG demos again for the PS3. So specs are useless, and mean nothing.

DeadMan1290
DeadMan1290

REVOLUTION SUX PS3 IS GONNA KILL BOTH THE 360 AND THE REV 'CUZ TH REV IS ALWAYS GONNA BE WEAKER THAN THE PS3 AND 360 AND CHEAPER CUZ IT WILL HAVE LESS GRAPHICS THAN BOTH SO INSTEAD OF THINKING OF THE VALUE OF THE REVOLUTION THEY SHOULD BE THINKING ON MAKING A BETTER SYSTEM WITH HD COMPATIBILITY AND BETTER GAMES INSTEAD OF F(/()=& MARIO ALL THE TIME MORE POWER THAT COULD SUPPORT GOOD ASS GRAPHICS A WAAAAYYYYY BETTER CONTROL REMOTE 'CUZ THAT REMOTE CONTROL REALLY SUX WHY DON'T THEY JUST DO THE SAME DESIGN AS THE GC THERE'S NUTHING WRONG WITH DAT ONE......ANYWAYZ EVEN IF THEY TRY TO MAKE THE SYSTEM BETTER THE PS3 WILL DESTROY,ANNIELATE,KILL,MURDER AND ELIMINATE THE REVOLUTION WHY???BECAUSE IT WILL SUCK AND ALL OF U PEOPLE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THAT'S DA TRUTH....I HAD A GC AND SOLD IT AND BOUGHT A PS2 CUZ IT'S ALWAYS MARIO HERE MARIO THERE AND IT'S FREAKIN ANNOYING.....SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS PS3 RULZ!!!!! REV SUX!!! 360 OK!!!!

Gamer_69_2006
Gamer_69_2006

the way i see it if the graphics are just as good as the other generation systems the revolution will sell better then both of them put together

eviltwitcher
eviltwitcher

i have HD TV and digital TV in HD. I am not rich either i just know how and where to spend my money. And i know for a fact that the PS3 is going to change the world of gaming as we know it today. Cinematic like gameplay OMG how could you beat that?

MASTERCHIEFUSMA
MASTERCHIEFUSMA

So far Nintendo hasnt told me anything in terms of well....anything, if i were to guess the system is going to cost between $250 - $300, the nintendo systems have always cost less then the competition, but its also not offering as much in terms of "Technoligy" Sure the controllers are great and innovative, but unless nintendo wow's me with something im sticking with the xbox 360

AAAGAMER
AAAGAMER

I don't care if nintendo has redesigned the ds or not it is still going to be the same ds but just more stylish and it took long enough for them to announce this cuz game boy advance has 5'000'000'004 redesigns. And oh yeah what about all us game boy advance one screen players, will there ever be a game boy advancement above game boy advance? Nintendo has one new bright side of fans, but if they DON'T make a new game boy revolution and if adding a screen has become the fashionable thing to do then they are thinking more of the beneficial outcomes of innovation then the harmful outcomes of quantity. Don't throw a-lot of your handheld gamers into a catch-22 here nintendo you have to differentiate or draw the line somewhat of a time after the ds remake or you're basic fundamentalist game boy fans will be in denial that is if 2006 early 2007 renders that opinion.

DeathWClass
DeathWClass

well its sure is hard to imagine a good day off,crashing on the couch playing your console with a remote!? boomerang@$%( look the bottuns are at the right place so just knock off.. Well the revolution offers alot but are they working on all those things they offert are just rushing it to pass to other ideas? Sure the use of a remote is a great idea but ,lets go over the history of the Dreamcast(..) they had the the fish hook thingy whatever the name was,a big ugly controller..what we should look here is the profit of the sales and the reviews and ..am out of time...

Reox_8888
Reox_8888

Why is everyone hatin on the DS redesign? Look what the SP's backlit did for handhelds. When using the stylus and holding the DS in one hand the DS gets pretty heavy and I'm not a fan of it's tiny face buttons either. If Nintendo makes a lighter DS with bigger face buttons, I'll buy a new DS.

n3onshark
n3onshark

hum, new DS design? fine by me! price of revolution? no issue, I'd actually rather have it at a higher price, so it's more exclusive. and who here can say they have HD? I don't. my TV is near 10 years old!

jwbass
jwbass

I would hate for Nintendo to put out as many versions of the DS as they have the Advance SP, I don't really have a problem with the DS design, I DO however, wish the screens were a bit brighter. I don't really think it's a great idea to leave HD support out of the Revolution, but I do think it will REALLY cut the cost of the system down. I don't know about you guys, but I don't know a lot of people that can afford HD just yet.

biobug
biobug

redesigning is for n00bs

lbeyer20
lbeyer20

No HD is great to me. Game reviews for games like Tony Hawk American wasteland for XBOX360 stated that the Hd resolution really showed off how bad the graphics were in the game. No HD = Better Graphics.

tmthywtsn
tmthywtsn

I recently bought a Nintendo ds and it makes me a little upset that they are now making minor upgrades for the system. Which really would mean if you want the upgrades you would need to buy a new system. The redesigning part of it I kind of knew was going to happen eventually.

Chibi_Kaji
Chibi_Kaji

I could care less about HD support. Sure it would be nice to have it, but all that really matters is how fun the games are to play.

Techdude99
Techdude99

lots of people have bought the micro.. i'm actually looking forward to play it and or possibly get it.. The system will work fine on Regular tv.. not everybody has a HDTV.. and besides.. the controller looks cool..

voltaition
voltaition

OMG wat has happened to nintendo. they freakin lost thier minds first the controller and now th HD uncappability. and redesigning athe DS is a big waste of money just like the micro hardly any one bought that thing

Themage
Themage

Big mistake big N, True most kids dont care about quality and just the games I just bought a widescreen HDTV and its great i want my games in widescreen and high def. That is the difference between Nintendo( from Japan) and Xbox (from USA) they dont adapt the consoles for overseas.

IrishMallard
IrishMallard

I'm interested but shame on ninty for not telling its fans more details.

nintsny1
nintsny1

they should have hd but nintendo is only doing that for more sales

ROCKINGFOOL
ROCKINGFOOL

i love nintendo cuz i love their games, they always makes the best games in the world and idont think that theyll ever disapear anytimesoon . and about the revulotion keep your pants on youll know when the time is right so for now enjoy gamecub man :)