Nintendo not accepting Japanese indie developers on Wii U

Japanese indie developers are not able to submit development applications for Wii U.

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Independent game developers based in Japan cannot submit applications to develop for the Wii U console, according to a Nintendo form hosted on the 2013 Game Developers Conference website.

The form invites potential Wii U developers to complete a questionnaire for an opportunity to be contacted by Nintendo.

However, it states in both Japanese and English, "We are not accepting applications from developers located in Japan at this time."

In a statement issued to CVG, Nintendo clarified its stance on the matter, stating, "The policy in question is the decision of Nintendo's department responsible for licensing activities in each region, and the licensing department of Nintendo is currently not accepting subject applications from individuals in Japan."

Developers located outside of Japan are able to submit applications. No further details regarding Nintendo's future approach to Japanese independent game developers have been made available.

Discussion

374 comments
swantn5
swantn5

wow what a bunch of bullshit tbh 

blaze_boy30
blaze_boy30

What's they're reasoning this time? As much as I enjoy Nintendo games, they really do some stupid shit sometimes.

StriderTuna
StriderTuna

Honestly what is Nintendo thinking as indie games might be a way to bring in customers as I know A) Microsoft's being nicer to them and B) Sony's been nice to them. One of the draws to the Wii was nichey games. Considering how much of a massive underdog the Wii U is, they need every edge they can get. The Xbone seems hell bent on getting out of the hole they dug themselves.


It partially reeks of insecurity as japanese indie developers tend to make the same kinds of games Nintendo does, but possibly better perhaps. If Nintendo is to regain its former position, it's going to take more than their first party titles

Dragerdeifrit
Dragerdeifrit

good f$$%&n job nintendo... who's runnin the company? a dog? godamn, a plank could do better,  seriously, i do LOVE Zelda, mario, pokemon, and stuff, but they  cant just run things like if it was 1997 ,  they need to get with the times unless they want to end up selling software like sega.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Wow, I would think they needed all the attention from devs they could get.

genjuroT
genjuroT

Seriously though, there are probably a million "tactics" games trying to be submitted in Japan, no one wants a million tactics games. You know less than 1% of Anime comes to America? The same could be said about crappy Japanese Indie games.

genjuroT
genjuroT

Just say it out loud Nintendo, the American indie developer is better than the Japanese Indie developer ;)

DrBomberJack
DrBomberJack

Wait wait wait, a Japanese company from Japan is accepting Indie games from everywhere else BESIDES Japan? Nintendo is seeming less "Not getting with the times" and more "We just slap out hands on the keyboard and let the spell checker sort it out.

kbaily
kbaily

That really makes no sense then again for every indie gem like Braid or Journey, there's a lot of forgettable junk.

omar_q
omar_q

Oh Nintendo, you just bury yourself deeper and deeper as we go into this new generation.


Might as well take the Sega route and drop out of consoles, I could use Mario on my X1. 

JimmeyBurrows
JimmeyBurrows

Too many slightly iffy amature anime games being submitted by the indie devs perhaps?

frylock1987
frylock1987

"Why would we want to do anything that will actually improve the sales of our console and our company as a whole? hahaha, dummies!!!!!!"


Can't wait for Nintendo to go out of business and I get to see a Zelda game on my PS4 =-)

tooki
tooki

Proof positive that Nintendo is trying to kill their own platform?  Could be some kind of insurance fraud....

BLaverock
BLaverock

Man, that's too bad. I bet there's a ton of talented indie developers in Japan. After all, video games are in their blood!

StriderTuna
StriderTuna

@genjuroT Indie doesn't exactly mean tactics when it comes to the japanese: it'd be far more likely to mean shmups or creative action games.

godslayer61
godslayer61

@genjuroT yes but they need help there are no games and people are running from it , plus eb games has moved all the wii u stuff to the far back corner witch is not good that's were all the bad selling stuff goes

hatieshorrer
hatieshorrer

@genjuroT  

I couldnt agree more even when the Wii original allowed demos for download games many I played and wondered why would someone make a demo for a game this boring.  (Box Robot)

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@omar_q For any one to wish a console manufacturer to go out of business shows they aren't able to see what the long term reprecussions would be. If Nintendo were to go out of consoles it would not only mean that the industry would lack the sort of innovation Nintendo brings to the table. But it would also mean less competition and competition in the gaming industry is good. It encourages other developers and manufacturers to do better or 'out think' their competition. The best example is Nintendo's runaway success with the Wii. The Wii was such a success that it outsold both PS3 and 360 worldwide. Regardless of your opinion of the Wii it spurred Sony and Microsoft to release their own take on motion controls with Move and Kinect.

And it has been said before but Nintendo could take a loss every year for the next 50 years and still have enough money to stay in business. And Microsoft would never be able to have Mario on their system.

If and that is a big if; such a time should come. Sony would be more likely to acquire Nintendo's IP's.

And as far as Nintendo not wanting Japanese Indie games on WiiU yet there is probably a good reason. We have seen some Japanese Indie games come out on 3DS. I expect Nintendo wants to get a larger install base with the WiiU first. Second there is probably a much more substantial quantity of japanese indie developers than there are western indie developers. And that is not always a good thing. Where you have more indie developers you do have a larger selection but I suspect Nintendo is trying to be somewhat protective over what indie IP's make it to WiiU. They aren't simply just allowing everyone and his next door neighbor to throw whatever they have on the system.

XxParasite
XxParasite

@frylock1987 Wait...if Nintendo were to go out of business, how would you get Zelda on anything?

XxParasite
XxParasite

@BLaverock Japanese indie games that I've heard of all seem to be for PC, at least initially.  There's probably a counterexample somewhere, but the J-indie titles on Wii were largely ports.

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@godslayer61 @genjuroT By that same logic then that would mean that PS3 titles are 'bad selling' stuff. I was just in Gamestop the other day and guess where all the WiiU stuff was? Right up front as soon as you walk in the door. PS3 games were all the way at the back of the store.


The WiiU does have games. It just lacks 1st party Nintendo titles. Pikmin 3 launches here in the states in just a few days and by comparison when Pikmin3 launched in Japan sales of WiiU increased. And after Pikmin 3 releases there is at least one WiiU title from Nintendo coming out every month after up until the holiday season.

WildHoneyPie
WildHoneyPie

@CKeen666 @frylock1987  

 Nintendo has consistently said that if they drop the hardware business, they drop the entire video game business and are taking their IP's with them.

frylock1987
frylock1987

@lovelynips @BLaverock  

Or....it could be common knowledge that for the last 20 years, Japan has been the main source of our gaming needs.....

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@jawslover @dummpymonkey123 @omar_q If by next gen you mean Microsoft's plan to require validation every 24 hours, or their attempt at derailing used games ....oh right they did a 180 because of how pissed off people were. Perhaps they should change the name to Xbox 180.

Again power doesn't define whether a console is next gen or not. It is how the hardware is used. And yes since the WiiU is the next home console from Nintendo it is Next gen. Even if it doesn't have the horsepower of the PS4 or X1, it is how games utilize its unique gamepad that will define a next gen experience. 


In regards to the WiiU's internal components you simply can't go by clock speeds or processor. The WiiU's GPU is several generations ahead of the PS3 and 360. It also uses EDRAM which allows for out of order processing and can run more efficiently. Its GPU is essentially bearing the grunt of the graphical processing as opposed to the processor. So the processor's power doesn't mean as much as it did last gen. It all comes down to how well a developer uses the hardware efficiently.

WildHoneyPie
WildHoneyPie

@frylock1987 @XxParasite 

You won't. There'd be no more Zelda, and Nintendo would rather sink and drown then get captured.

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@frylock1987 @WildHoneyPie @CKeen666  

A few million dollars. That is laughable. Nintendo has billions in the bank. Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have enough money to buy Nintendo outright.

Why do you think they said Nintendo could take a loss every year for the next 50 years and still be fine.

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@jawslover @WildHoneyPie @CKeen666 @frylock1987  

 Selfish? Really? Who is the selfish one? Nintendo for not wanting another developer to shit all over their beloved franchises? Or you who is perhaps too prideful or perhaps 'too cool' to buy a system to play the games you really want to play but can't because they aren't on the system you bought. 

Guess its far easier to just say that Nintendo should go out of business so that you can play those games on your system of choice. Despite the fact there are millions who buy a Nintendo system because they enjoy those games enough to buy the system.

Selfish? Who is really selfish?

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@WildHoneyPie @CKeen666 @frylock1987 

 And I would rather see them take their IP's with them than sell them out to other developers and publishers which would bastardize their legacy by releasing annual installments ala' AC, COD, etc. 

So that I could see all those jerks who say how it would be great to play Metroid, Mario, Zelda etc on 'their' system denied of what 'they' want.