Nintendo: Microsoft, Sony must react to us

President Reggie Fils-Aime says "faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough"; competitors must react to Mario maker to succeed.

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Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is not fearful that the Wii U will become irrelevant if Microsoft and Sony launch new consoles next year as is suspected. In fact, the executive said he believes Nintendo has set the innovation bar with its Wii U, and Microsoft and Sony cannot rely solely on more advanced technology if they wish to succeed.

"In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be," Fils-Aime told GameSpot sister site CNET. "It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will."

The Wii U launched November 18 and sold 400,000 units during its first seven days, a period that included the shopping bonanza known as Black Friday. By comparison, the original Wii sold 600,000 units during its first eight days on the market in the United States in 2006.

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Thetylander
Thetylander

Didn't they say this about the virtual boy several years ago?

I am serious!

 I am sorry but, to me, two screens is still a dumb idea. Bet this thing would sell for less than $150 if it werent for the controller screen deal.

 

I could spend hours listing all the faults behind wii u, besides the name souding like a european ambulance, but the real point is that it is already outdated and out performed by the current competition.

Did I just say that?

 

Games and backwards compatibility.... The wii u doesnt do gamecube, the wii games have always been mediocre, downloadable games are rather unexciting as most are available free for pc emulators, and the release day game catalogue is rather grim.

     The competition: 360 and PS3 are loaded with games, most of which have been unavailable to wii users due to exclusives and hardware limitations. Nintendo has mario... but no zelda metroid or pokemon again at launch.

 

Hard drive... 32 gb??? oh... wow. At least they added a connector for portable hard drives.

     The competition: We know all about the storage on 360 and PS3... never a worry about space for music, vids, games, saves, updates, add on content, etc. The 32 GB seems like nintendo is being cheapskates.

 

Price.... Oh boy Nintendo...wow... Too much for what it is.

     The competition: Most people who have been long time gamers have bought another 360 or PS3 for their other tv's.... or they will since the price is so cheap. It's nice to watch neflix or play Halo in the bedroom, the kids have their own games in theirs and can watch dvds or netflix for kids. You can do this with wii and wii u, but it isn't cost effective, the wii is barely SD quality,   and the controllers aren't easy at all to use for video navigation.

 

Power... The specs are pretty weak... honestly. Nintendo knows that people who bought the wii are thinking "for the kids" and aren't worried about a powerful next gen system, and have locked in on that market.

      The competition: There is no mario-style character on PS3 or 360. Sackboys could go there but Sony doesn't know how to sell to kids, never have and never will. Skylanders is the equalizer here, but it will never reach mario levels.

 

So what is the bold statement from Nintendo about?

 

Sales werent as good as they expected... especially with 360 selling almost double the wii u in the same period and being 7 years old.

 

People aren't falling for the "shortage" BS this time around like they pulled with the wii and tried to do with the 3DS. Most customers saw the "sold out" P.R. and went to Walmart.... finding many unsold units on the shelves. It appears that many online retaillers are playing along with the "shortage"  scam, but how much in kickbacks are they getting for doing so? (besides selling their inventory on ebay for inflated "shortage" prices.)  

 

Nintendo boasted over a million in pre orders... and then got caught lying. Most of the 400,000 sold werent pre ordered anyway. It was black friday impulse buying.

 

The bottom line is that the smell eminating from the Nintendo corporate offices is fear.... plain and simple.

     The smallest kid on the playground always has the loudest mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

darkeyez81
darkeyez81

Obviously faster processors and pretty pictures it's not everything, but for some reason Nintendo now is playing catch up.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

you could run on a dinosaur at this point but if you came out with decent games id pick it over its peers in a heartbeat. 

 

Unfortunatly i still have my doubts.

AnHRTBus
AnHRTBus

they do react to u Nintendo. they build game consoles with better gpus/cpus. better triple a titles. better innovations (Kinect is way more innovative than those magic wands, i.e. move and Wii.) I think Microsoft has even answered that peripheral you call a tablet... with an app! smh, open your eyes Nintendo. Mario, Zelda, and metroid are not going pull you through this on merit.

Aengelus
Aengelus

Buying a console at launch has always perplexed me. You're buying the console at its peak price with about a dozen games to chose from that don't take full advantage of the systems capabilities.  Whereas if you waited, you could get the system for a reduced price and have a more diverse library of games to chose from that are better tailored to the system and if you want to play those launch games you could always go back and buy them for a much lower price than what they sold for at launch.  

bmart970
bmart970

I would like to say that Microsoft has made the Xbox 360 compatible with any tablet/touchscreen device (and I'm sure Sony will soon), so why would I buy a Wii U for its tablet controller. 

mattyh333
mattyh333

Im new to this website does anyone know how I reply if I have like and comment reply emails? Anyway the point I was making is iphone is expensive and the games/apps are cheap so why cant that be the same for consoles? make them expensive but the games pocket money prices

HydePark1980
HydePark1980

I've been doing some research and have come to the conclusion that maybe purchasing a Wii U someday wouldn't be a bad idea.  Competitors have been trying to take Nintendo out for years and I finally understand why they haven't succeeded.  To accomplish these you need two things, the first being hardware the second being innovation.  MS and Sony have cornered the market on one but have consistently missed the mark on the other.  Nintendo continues to try new ways to enhance gameplay for gamers, if you really stop to think about it it's only a matter of time before they stumble across something that will change gaming forever.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @albelnox0 

Wouldn't let me find your comment, but anyways I wasn't talking about Cross Play, I was talking about Cross Control which was announced after the Wii U was revealed, to be precise, on Aug. 14, 2011. 

 

I think it's funny that you tell me to do my research, then you make the assumption that the Wii U copies the Vita's menu. Obviously you've never seen a 3DS menu screen.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/3DS_Home_Menu.png

 

Hmm, that looks a lot like the Wii U's menu, just a little more bland looking. 

 

It copies the Vita's touch screen? Yes because the DS didn't have a touch screen in it right? The Vita was the first popular touch screen console that came out before the DS and 3DS. Oh and the 3DS also has a gyroscope (like the Wii) and a front facing camera (like the DSi). Also the Wii U's GamePad features more advanced motion controls, not just six-axis, but nine-axis, making it superior to the WiiMotion Plus. And dual analogs? Seriously? That's standard fare of any traditional controller. 

 

Thanks for making it extremely easy to invalidate all of your points, a little research will do you justice ;)

martindosantos
martindosantos

However, when the xbox 720 comes out ... there're lots of comments saying the xbox 720 is not powerful as ps4, it always happen and nothing compares to a desktop pc.

So, this "Competition" about which will be the best console is unnecessary. 

And I like that expression "Hardcore wannabe". If you are a hardcore gamer you play every game, no matter on graphics and a hardcore gamer always prefer PC, nobody wants to play FPS with a f***ing gamepad.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

Sure they need... C'mon, seriously... What are the HardCore players that really want the second screen?

I'd rather have a PS4 with real life graphics playing in a 4K pixels TV than to have PS3 with Vita that can't connect over Wi-Fi...And yes, by PS3+Vita-WiFi I mean Wii U....

Wii U has an expiration date, it's up to Sony and Microsoft to decide when that date is...

I'm sure Wii U will sell very well for casual players, probably outsell PS4/Xbox720 like the Wii did with PS3/Xbox360, but than you have the software sales, the games. And people with the Wii U will only buy 1 or 2 games at most, since most games will not interest people.

Even though Wii U is HD, it will not be able to handle the games PS4 and Xbox720 will. These will be like 4/5 times more powerful than the Wii U... and I believe the performance and graphical difference between the systems will be too big... Wii U won't compete when the next generation of consoles arrives...

Norrie91
Norrie91

The Wii-U will suffer the same fate as the Wii - overrun with retarded party games that Real Gamers wouldn't touch even if they were the only games available.

Both the PS4 and next Xbox will be far more powerfull and ergo much better than the Wii-U.

The Wii  may have won the sales, but that was only due to stupid Housewives buying it because it was a Trend played it once maybe twice and never touched it again. It is, and was a piss poor console and only Nintendo Fanboys praise it.

The Wii-U may be an improvement but once SONY and MS put out their next consoles, the Wii-U will be irrelevent.

martindosantos
martindosantos

 @Thetylander  At least it has backward compatibility with wii and some games of gamecube if you dont know that. Ps3 and Xbox360 doesnt have backward compatibility, even previous generation. Maybe xbox 360 with some xbox titles. But PS3 doesnt have. 

 

Xbox 360 sold more consoles because of the stock. Wii u only sell 400,000 units because they only produced that amount. They sold all the stock with preorders. My sister went to best buy and there were only two consoles. 

 

And on the wii u you can attach your hard drive... one of the xbox 360 kinect model only have 4gb and you cannot attach a hard drive.  

 

And .... for kids??? Wow.... Many adults bought this system and were happy with the system. Thats your opinion... Im bored of 'Hardcore' games, and for that I have my Desktop with mouse and keyboard. 

martindosantos
martindosantos

 @AnHRTBus 

Ohhh kinect is a  great innovation.... yeah sure.....

Please, play your games without a light and tell me what happen with that fantastic innovation. You always have to stand up to play bored games.... (except star wars game :P) . If I want to move my body I go to gym, not playing at home.

Seriously, Kinect is one of that things that can use on different things... like many other hacks that you can watch in youtube, but playing videogames.... prefer a gamepad.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Aengelus 

Well, if everyone adopted this idea, then the console wouldn't sell anything, the company can't get any consumer feedback, and yeah, the company itself will suffer.

 

For me, I've never gotten a console at launch but since I saw a handful of games that I really wanted in the launch window, that alone was enough for me to want to get one, plus my Wii's disc reader broke, plus Nintendo TVii is good for me since my room has no cable (although bummed that we have to wait). The issues right now don't bother me, sure load times can be faster but I'm a patient person :3

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @bmart970 

Because it's not the same thing, unless your smart device has buttons on it, that alone gives the GamePad the upper hand. 

 

Plus those are mere features and options, whereas the GamePad is an integral part of the console. 

Leeric420
Leeric420

 @mattyh333 Ahh well the publishers and developers all want some of that money, its almost shifting to that with DLC but I doubt the developers will settle on pocket money prices. Thats why the jacked it up from 50 to 60 a game during the next gen switch. 

As for the email it will just take you to the page you have to find the comment.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @HydePark1980 

They already have, by basically creating the blueprint of how to make the ideal controller.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @DiamondDM13 

With the Wii U being around 3-4 times more powerful than the PS3/360, it's not likely that the next gen Playstation/XBox will be a huge leap above the Wii U, probably 2 times more powerful unless they want to sell some extremely high priced machine. 

 

The Wii U can connect over Wifi, where did you hear that? I just video chatted yesterday using the console, pretty sure that's impossible without a wifi connection. 

 

The system has been out for 10 days, it's dumb to judge a system's games based on it's launch titles. Already within the next half year, there are a handful of excellent looking games coming out for the Wii U and this is before E3. 

 

"Hardcore players" might not like the Wii U, but real gamers will. 

Mark_HD
Mark_HD

 @Norrie91 PC is already more powerful, ergo much better than the PS4 and the next Xbox. Wii U provides new gaming possibilities with their new controller, so if the next Xbox and the PS4 aren't going to provide anything new besides better graphics then PC + Wii U are all you need for next gen gaming.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Norrie91 

So basically more power = better, got it. Now I present to you video game history which has constantly proven that having the most powerful console has never made a console successful, instead it actually hurt the console. 

 

Seriously, is this your first generation of gaming? History hardly ever repeats itself. 

 

You're not a "real gamer" you're a "hardcore wannabe" who thinks that only Sony/Microsoft are capable of providing us "real" gaming experiences. Real gamers, on the other hand, recognize all 3 and what they have to offer to the industry. They don't generalize the companies nor the people who support them. 

 

So how much you think these super powerful systems will cost? 

Thetylander
Thetylander

 @martindosantos

 Correction to your correction.

PS3 plays all PS1 games, Early PS3 units played PS1 and PS2. Most x-box titles worked on the 360 as well. Prior to PS2, none of the major consoles had backwards compatibility.

As for wii u.... It DOES NOT play gamecube. Nintendo issued a statement to that effect and also stated that gamecube games can be purchased via download through virtual console.

 

X-box live and PS store do this as well with certain old games.

 

Xbox 360 sold 700k units because people know a good deal when they see it... It was not because there were more of them available!

Same with PS3.

 

Here are the best deals I could find from Black Friday:

 

$250 for wii u with nintendoland in pack. less than a dozen games available at launch.

 

$199 for X-box 360 250gb Kinect with Skyrim, Forza 4, Kinect Adventures and Kinect sports 1 and 2. A $20 gift cards and Xbox live for six months. Hundreds of other games available.

 

$199 PS3 320gb with move, GT5 and Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Two dualshock and two move controllers, $20 ps store card voucher for $20 off any new game.

(I am sure there were better deals but I focused on national big box stores)

 

So, which was a better deal? No contest!

Nintendo wii u even got beat out by wii, due to the amazing deals out there at retaillers. This isn't shocking as the PS2 outsold PS3 4 to 1 during the first two years of the PS3... which is why Sony decided to remove the backwards compatibility.

 

As for not being able to attach a hard drive to a 4gb 360...  Then what the hell is that hard drive attached to my kids 360 doing????

 

You can't rely on brand loyalty to move product. If that were true Oldsmobile would still be making cars and GM would never have declared bankruptcy.

The PR machine at Nintendo makes many errors. like producing over 2 million wii u systems and then slowly trickling them out of the warehouse to keep demand up.

They have to file production logs, some of these fell into the wrong hands in china and the info was leaked. Most retaillers and media outlets prefer to ignore this info as it would hurt their sales as well if it was known that the wii u was not a rare and hot item.

 

As for your sister finding only 2 systems at Best Buy... That's called "Low stock". (former B.B. employee here) You pretend to have few units in inventory to move product. Best Buy is notorious for this practice, primarily on high dollar items like the bigger tv's. It's actually an old car dealer trick and it's perfectly legal so long as bait and switch is not used. It pressures the consumer to make a impulse buy because the item may be gone if they wait too long.And yes we did lie to customers and say an item was out of stock. The customer usually bought something else and got a raincheck for the item they really wanted. We sold plenty of PS3's and 360's this way while customers waited for wii's to arrive... even though they were on a pallet in the back room! This was legal because they weren't "checked in" yet so the store had not yet officially recieved them. And they usually sat there until a slow sales day (wednesday) when they would be checked in and announced to the public.

 

Nintendo markets to kids... always has and always will. It is nothing to be ashamed of, Star Wars was marketed to kids as well... Those kids grew up and still love their star wars, but now they collect the toys as a hobby (or obsession).

I loves me some mario or zelda from time to time. It's part of our Japanese heritage... (funny!) But, as you use your pc for hardcore gaming, I use mine as a game emulator for all those nintendo games in my collection that I no longer am able to play on my toaster, snes, gameboy,and N64.

Aengelus
Aengelus

I understand what you're saying but it's easier for me to let other people be the guinea pig.  They can spend more money for an initially flawed product and I can spend less on the same product albeit a more fine tuned version.  I get the same enjoyment for a less price as I too am patient enough to wait for a price drop. Besides, a few years from now people won't even remember the launch games. Fantavision anyone? 

Leeric420
Leeric420

 @abHS4L88  @HydePark1980 Apparently you have the worst reading comprehension ever which i am not surprised you were proven wrong every single time and are still trying to fight it. Thats why you ignore all the points I make and you cant think of anything else to say right moron? I was saying 2k is a publisher. Keep burying me? Thats why you think EA and Rockstar are developers right? Thats why they are are the head publishing company right? Please you have no clue. You havent said anything correct yet you just keep twisting your argument like a 5 year old. I guess morons will always be morons. Get outside kid and learn some things. Rockstar is a publisher, rockstar north is the developer. Im tired of you little moronic kids thinking they have a clue because they have the internet. Please first learn to read, then learn what a developer is, then you can attempt to "bury" me. I willing to bet there are more than a few people giving you a hard time at school since your an uneducated nerd.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

 @abHS4L88 Really? PS4/Xbox720 kits that were sent to developers, which are not the final versions, have 4 times the RAM of the Wii U, and that's the only part I know of. 2GB in the Wii U against 8GB in the others. That's as much as my own LapTop has, which cost me 1600€, and plays any game out there at max settings. I've pretty sure the next gen consoles will be way more powerful than Wii U, and more expensive aswell.

 

And the Wii U gamepad can't connect to the Wii U over WiFi. That means you can't take the Gamepad elsewhere and play it. You can do that if you play with the Vita. And even the games that you can run in the PS3 and play on Vita screen can be played through WiFi. That's what I was refering to...

 

Trust me. Once the next gen consoles come, developers will move to those consoles and leave Wii U out, because the Wii U won't be able to handle the games those consoles will.

martindosantos
martindosantos

 @abHS4L88  @DiamondDM13  He refers to vita WiFi version.

 

This comment will be idiot but... xbox 360 is the oldest console and you can play everything. These new consoles dont have to be more powerful than a pc 'cause nobody wants to buy it, they will be more expensive than the pc and will be a huge console.... nobody wants that.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Mark_HD  

I feel like Microsoft will definitely come out with something different, most likely the Kinect 2.0 which should deliver on the original promises of Project Natal. 

 

As for Sony, considering their financial state, I either see them taking a huge risk and hoping it pays off, or playing it safe to give themselves more time to get back on their feet. 

 

Either way, this coming E3 is looking to be quite exciting. 

Norrie91
Norrie91

 @abHS4L88 Obviously they won't be cheap, Quality Costs Money. Power and Technology aren't the same thing dumbass both the PS3 and X360 are far superior to the Wii name one game that even comes close to the Best X360 or PS3 have to offer? All Nintendo prduces are outdated games that Nostalgia fanboys can't seem to let go.

alrepairs
alrepairs

 @abHS4L88 OMG, wow :)

 

I like, love you for this...you are AWESOME.

 

To the Miiverse soon!

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @alrepairs 

Lol, thanks ^_^ 

 

Man, I better sleep >< I'm assuming you live on the east coast since it's morning there. 

 

Here's my deviantart if you want to check it out. 

 

http://ab-angel.deviantart.com

 

(and yes, I attempted designs for a bit, something I wanted to try out since I was exploring different types of art). 

 

Night!

alrepairs
alrepairs

 @abHS4L88 HAHAHAH,

 

You are correct...you have aww inspiring artwork friend :).

 

Your Kirby dynamics are godlike

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @alrepairs 

Pssh, my artwork is better than yours XD

 

Nah, your Asuka is pretty legit.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Aengelus 

I meant the Limited Edition Zelda 3DS, plus the visuals have been completely redone to look exactly how Miyamoto originally wanted it to look back in 97. Plus my family skipped the 5th generation so I never owned an N64. 

To each their own, I don't mind the small screen.

Aengelus
Aengelus

 @abHS4L88 

Screw Ocarina of Time 3DS man, for $25 I got a complete in box copy of the N64 version. Why play such a great game on that small ass screen when I can play it on my TV? 

alrepairs
alrepairs

 @Aengelus It works in both ways actually. 

 

I think Miiverse is amazing...despite its' name originating from japanese culture.  Some people are too narrow minded to witness the charm that online community offers, or are too closeted.

 

People call Wii U a gimmick, yet I can't help but laugh at them.  Maybe it is Nintendo's fault some people cling onto that word, with the original Wii relying sorely on a gimmick...I don't know.  But that Gamepad is completely opposite. 

 

Netflix + headphones on the gamepad in a cradle is amazing, later to be informed you have a private message, "Like" or "Follow" notification similar to Facebook and Twitter, all seamless is awesome.  No monthly fees attached, all completely free.  I have a Google Nexus 7 Tablet and it feels completely different than the Wii U.

 

This damn thing is no gimmick LOL...can't stress it.  You can download games during online gameplay with ZERO lag...it's ridiculous.

 

Just buy the effing console, and see for yourself.  There are no killer games "Yet" that completely set it apart, but i've yet to quench thirst from Miiverse, Trine 2: Directors Cut, Tekken Tag 2, Black Ops 2, and Mario U.

 

Tekken Tag 2 and Black Ops 2 just came out on the other consoles recently, and Trine 2: DC is exclusive to the Wii U.  So you can experience them in their full form, if not already.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Aengelus 

FIREWORKS! I actually enjoyed playing that game at the Power Zone when I lived in Germany (the electronics store on base) and I was pretty damn good at it.

 

Yeah, I didn't bother with the 3DS until Black Friday since I saw games I wanted coming out and dat Zelda 3DS (it's so beautiful T_T). 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Leeric420.  @HydePark1980. A publisher (like a producer) funds gaming projects, which is why the biggest developers in the gaming industry are many of main publishers. I gave you a chance to prove me wrong and you basically flat out refused to do it, pretty much throwing any credibility you had out the window. But it's okay, I find your posts highly amusing so keep it up. I can always use a good laugh.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Leeric420  

Rockstar North is a development team under Rockstar Games who is owned by Take-Two Interactive that is also a developer/publisher. It's like when Sony's 1st party developers make a game, regardless of which developer it is, that game is considered to be developed by Sony. 

 

Really now can you stop? Because you're seriously 6 ft under because you have never proven me wrong, you keep coming back with moronic posts that I continue to invalidate. 

Leeric420
Leeric420

 @abHS4L88  @HydePark1980 My favorite thing is when im not responding to your posts you still think I am because your name is after the person im responding to. You are truly a desperate individual. And an idiot which i have proven, again and again and all your stuck is on is you think i dont know what a publisher is, please keep trying to re state my arguments to fit yours, because an original thought is obviously beyond you.

martindosantos
martindosantos

 @DiamondDM13  @abHS4L88  Its a developer kit... Developer.... Those machines are more powerful than the console because it is used by a developer... then the developer tries to optimize to use the minimum requirements. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Leeric420  

Says the person who has yet to prove a single thing I said wrong. I guess you just love the attention don't you? Funny because everything I brought up was in response to what he was saying. Granted the whole wifi thing was misunderstood but that's besides the point. 

Leeric420
Leeric420

 @DiamondDM13  @abHS4L88 Diamond this guys is a moron give it up he cant even read a simple sentence correctly without assuming your saying 20 different things, none of which you brought up.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @martindosantos  

No, I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Wii U because both Vita models can connect over wifi. 

 

Consoles can never be more powerful than PCs because it's financially impossible and within a year they'll already be outdated. The closest a console has gotten is around a year's difference and that resulted in the extremely high console prices. Realistically, consoles use 2-3 year old hardware at launch. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @DiamondDM13 

Like those two games and ONLY those two games? 

 

It's a matter of opinion really, critics have said that the Wii version of Resident Evil 4 is the best, same with Okami. 

 

Oh my apologizes, I thought you possessed logic.

 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Darth_Starwind  

They are reaching out to third parties and making great strides to gain their support, like personally meeting up with 3rd parties to support and assist them in Wii U development. 

I mean look at the launch titles, only 5 1st party games in the launch window, only 3 of them being major titles (NintendoLand, Mario and Pikmin), while it seems bizarre, it makes sense when you realize that they're basically giving the launch window to 3rd parties so their games have majority of the attention.

 

I think Nintendo learned that with the Wii, while their games have very strong selling power, it also overshadows the 3rd party games because there were a lot of strong 3rd party games on the Wii, they just didn't get the attention they deserved. 

Darth_Starwind
Darth_Starwind

 @abHS4L88  @Norrie91 

"Lol, all Nintendo produces are outdated games? How about, Nintendo produces games that stand the test of time and will still be excellent titles even a decade from now."

True, but those are the only titles that have sold well for Nintendo. Don't get me wrong, they're great and I like them a lot. The unfortunate thing is that a company cannot survive on those alone. Nintendo got lucky the last time around. I don't think they can survive a second mistake. I hope the Wii U does well but I have my doubts.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

 @abHS4L88 I didn't say the Wii version was the best. It isn't. Same with Okami, that can be played in HD with Move on PS3. The great games to play in Wii are out there in better versions in other consoles...

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @DiamondDM13 

Ahh yes, and due to the pointer controls, it is the preferred version, same with Okami. There are actually a bunch of amazing titles I could name but I know Norrie wouldn't recognize them and automatically dismiss them.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

 @Norrie91  @abHS4L88 They have Resident Evil 4...(Too bad it's a PS2 game aswell, and there are HD versions available on top of that. But still, the game is excelent)...

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Norrie91 

And in an industry where affordability is a primary factor, what makes you think these costly systems will beat out the more affordable one? Even with the 360 and PS3 alone, the 360 dominated for a long time partly due to it being far more affordable.

 

It doesn't matter what games I list, you're probably going to say some BS like "Oh but the graphics suck." or "Pssh, those games suck." but either way, both Super Mario Galaxies, Zelda Skyward Sword, Xenoblade Chronicles, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Metroid Prime 3.

 

Lol, all Nintendo produces are outdated games? How about, Nintendo produces games that stand the test of time and will still be excellent titles even a decade from now.