Nintendo Gamers Don't Buy Assassin's Creed, Ubisoft Says

Ubisoft CEO also says that Watch Dogs for Wii U will be the last "mature" game Ubisoft releases for the platform for the foreseeable future.

Nintendo consumers don't buy Assassin's Creed games in significant numbers, and as such, Ubisoft will not release more mature games for Wii U after this year's Watch Dogs. That's according to CEO Yves Guillemot, who told Game Informer that Ubisoft will instead focus on family oriented games for Wii U like Just Dance.

"It's very simple," Guillemot said when asked about Ubisoft's relationship with Nintendo. "What we see is that Nintendo customers don't buy Assassin's Creed. Last year [with Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag], we sold in very small numbers."

Assassin's Creed Unity

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag was released last November for Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, and PC. The game has shipped over 11 million copies across all platforms. But overall, the Wii U is not big business for Ubisoft. According to Ubisoft's latest data, Wii U sales made up just 3 percent of overall software sales, down a percentage point compared to the year prior. By comparison, the original Wii accounted for 11 percent of game sales last year.

Don't expect Ubisoft to give up on Nintendo altogether, however. Instead of leaving the platform behind, Guillemot said Ubisoft will adjust its emphasis, instead focusing on Just Dance games and "more of the types of games they are interested in." Just Dance 2015 is coming to Wii U this fall.

In the immediate future, Ubisoft is launching Watch Dogs for Wii U later this year. It will be the last "mature" game Ubisoft ships for the console for the foreseeable future. "[Watch Dogs] is coming to Wii U," Guillemot said. "It will be the only mature game we publish on it." Other Ubisoft games for Wii U that could be considered "mature" include launch title ZombiU, as well as Assassin's Creed III and Splinter Cell: Blacklist.

Also in Game Informer's interview, Guillemot says Ubisoft will support the Xbox 360/PS3/Wii generation of consoles through this year and next, but don't expect much support further out than that. "What we see is that this year is still fine for the PS3 and 360, but next year because they are selling very quickly, we'll move to the new hardware," he said. "After 2015, it will be hard for us to create games for those systems."

Last year, Xbox 360 and PS3 games generated the bulk of Ubisoft game revenue, making up 27 and 25 percent of Ubisoft's overall software sales, respectively.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
Got a news tip or want to contact us directly? Email news@gamespot.com

Written By

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

Want the latest news about Assassin's Creed Rogue?

Assassin's Creed Rogue

Assassin's Creed Rogue

Follow

Discussion

511 comments
soulia2
soulia2

 I'd just say: Wii U (compared to others) is a cheap consolle. You get a consolle for a small price (and a small price for obvious reasons.. ..obviously). As a guys who works, has to pay a rent, food, car insurance etc. Wii U is the best choice, I mean.. I ain't got so much time to spend on games, so I don't spend a lot of money to get one. Then, as a Nintendo fan which has grown up with them and their games, I love Mario and Zelda and everything's carrying Nintendo's brand.


 Despite of that, as someone else said, a LOT of us grown up with Nintendo, are infact GROWN, which means we'd like to play something different from third parties, when we'll get the chance. 
And that has ALWAYS happened untill now. 
You guys surely remember Killer Insinct on N64 don't ya? That was a mature game. How about Turok? That was too. And Doom 64, Perfect Dark, Mortal Combat 4, Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. and many others (now screw the graphic, it was 64 bit!!) They were ALL mature games, even South Park (that's for the speech more than blood, action etc.).
We got then the GameCube, same spit, different version. Need for Speed? Call of Duty? Remember? Resident Evil, Killer 7, Eternal Darkness (one of the most terrifying games of the times) etc.

THEN again.. ..we got the Wii.. 
Now when we talk about Wii, we should talk not about a consolle itself, but as an idea. The idea of making the player not just watching a screen but interacting with the game for real.
To achieve that goal, we got a list of games (the majority) wich are "family" or "kid" made, isn't that right?
That unique goal made Nintendo become a kid's platform, something you buy when your 5 - 6 year old son gets bored of Looney Toons and wants something else. Might be right, nowdays.

But that idea (not the goal) is also something to be stole, to be taken and edited by the other "great" companies and "improved" just to say "Look! I got the crap too, but mine is better". To prove this I'll ask: Remeber the Kinect? I't the Wii motion gameplay without the controller!! Same thing for the other supplements made on PS3 and PS4 which I don't even know if or what they have been renamed.
And the PS vita? A Gameboy! With improved graphichs and all of course but that's still someone else's doing like the old PS Mario 64 and Mario Kart version renamed Crash Bandicoot (A character with funny actings moving into a 3D world collecting apples (Mario's coins) fruit crates (Mario's ! boxes) and other things I'm not listing cause it'll take the whole day).

NOW we got the Wii U.
Again, the idea of a  touch pad on its controller, has already been copied by the "great PS4 'new' touch button controller".
I'm not sure about this but I just think Nintendo got bored of CREATING (I can't underline this, otherwise I WOULD) new ideas, concepts, and game styles just to see all their work stolen, edited, and sold three times more than they do, so I think they're focusing on thier job: creating a game. Cause when you play a Nintendo game, you're reading a book! That game, just like the book, makes you dive into it and get the most effective response from the action you're doing: having fun.

In conclusion, going back to the main topic: why AC titles won't be on the Wii U anymore, I'd say, we need to blame everyone (ourselves included) or nobody at all.

1. Nintendo: they are original in every single part of their developements, but guys, Nintendo is a company after all and if they don't want to sink, thay should fuse originality with modernity, renew their graphic and bend their heads one time another.
2. Other Companies: They stole, copied and edited everything they left their eyes on. But they were brilliant talking about profits: they grew up in no time and overode the mother of video games. Good job in market terms but thanks to you we don't have new AC games on Wii U!
3. Third parties: If you announce a game, then you say: "meh.. on Wii U? meh.. I don't know.. Maybe.. Maybe not.. we'll see.." THEN after months you release it on that God's forgotten consolle, with not even a tweet.. what the hell do you expect? 
4. Nintendo: as in the first point: AC Unity (example) got a loss of framerate in squares and places where the game shows a lot of models all over the screen, on PS4, which has one the best gaming graphic card together with XBox One (it's exactly the same card) do you really think Ubisoft is making something for you? They spend the whole year killing their backs on something as much realistic as possible then they'd have to go: "Oh, here's Nintendo.. let's make the game low resolution, low texture, low anti aliasing, low ground detail.. LOW, totally, just to place then the 128 bit version of AC Unity on the market for another consolle" I hardly think they would! 
Get some new graphic improvement to your little machine!
5. US, The Gamers: Point made from number 4. PS and Xbox gamers generally (not everyone) think Nintendo Wii U is a poor consolle and even if it costs half the price of the others, it doen't worth it. Why? Cause Nintendo is a kid's consolle made to be bought for parties and birthdays and then be left in dust the rest of the year.
Nintendo gamers on the other hand, do the same, buying this consolle just to wait another Mario or Zelda game.
Why? Cause there's nothing else to be bought!

Every single point is connected to the other but at the end of the day, I just think we're all smart or dumb the same way: we think of a game just like we think of our car. Must be beautifull and shiny, and strong, able to do anything and everything at the same time. We don't think it must drives us to work or school or wherever as well as we don't think we're going to cut off from our duties to PLAY and have fun. 

Nowdays a game is just aesthetic. Beauty and appearence and that's all.
That's why wwe (Wii U owners) will never have an AC game anymore. That's why Nintendo fails. 

theamadiller
theamadiller

I Might Come For Wii U Because Ubisoft Sayed That Watch Dogs Isin't Coming For Wii U But Its Coming On Novembers 21.. So Lets Just Wait. And Hope That It Will Come. Sry My Bad English :D

djomla4444
djomla4444

So,is that also for PC gamers??? You want to say that PC gamers dont buy AC games??? I dont think so...and betther make it for PC

jark888
jark888

The truth is that Assassin Creed fans or hardcore gamers won't play the game on a compromising platform such as Wii U. How reliable online gaming experience can gamers really expect from Nintendo among other factors?

isimitaiwo
isimitaiwo

whoa! nope his totally wrong, if you compare it to install base at the time of the games release, they sell just as well, as on xboxone and ps4.... this is just company greed talking here, they feel wiiU isnt selling fast enough and that why they are waiting on smashbro to be release to increase console seals. but watch_dogs on wiiU will not sell and they have no one to blame but themselves,why you ask?no screen, no publication, no demonstration, nothing and they expect it to sell?i doubt it

EddyG0RD0
EddyG0RD0

ubisoft lies, i have asasin creed

blueboxdoctor
blueboxdoctor

It makes sense, if it's not worth it financially then they're not going to do it, this is a business and they won't do things for nothing.

Karchy
Karchy

"Nintendo Gamers Don't Buy Assassin's Creed"

because Assassin's Creed is not challenging enough..

es496
es496

Well now it seems they won't be buying it at all.

ignautius
ignautius

He could have just stopped at "Nintendo customers don't buy."  Nearly any number you pick on the Wii U proves it, not just Assassin's Creed.

But in all seriousness, I think part of the Assassin's Creed trouble is that they started with #3 on the Wii U.  You're either hoping people who have played it on the 360 or something are going to suddenly switch platforms for... some... reason... or hoping that people are just going to dive into the series on the 3rd or 4th game.  Neither of those are realistic, so it's not surprising that they don't sell well.  And from what I've heard, ZombiU was mediocre at best.  You can't be surprised when you put mediocre products out and get a mediocre response.

And on the other end, why work your butt off when people aren't even buying the console?  You're a business, not a charity.  You don't owe it to Nintendo to throw them a bone once in a while.  Put your best stuff where it'll make the most money, and the Wii U is a joke right now.

Nintendo has done this to themselves.  They made choices that landed them in this position, and now they're learning the hard way.  Really curious to see their response when they follow up the Wii U with... whatever they come up with.

Vodoo
Vodoo

I'm actually surprised that Ubisoft hung in this long. Well at least they're not writing the console off completely.

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

Good.

No one buys a Wii U for third party games like this anyway. We buy them for Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc.
Anyone who buys a Wii U expecting mature content is an imbecile.

DefconRave
DefconRave

Calling your console Weeeee Eeewwww doesn't scream hardcore to me...

Stiler
Stiler

Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about the gamers who grew up on Nintendo. 


Most of us are now adults, we enjoy other games besides nintendo's own first party (Mario, Zelda, etc). 


However it just seems Nintendo has 0 interest in getting back the "hardcore gamer" crowd who built them up with the nes/snes/n64 days. 


Imagine how things would be for nintendo if they actually had hardware to compete with son/yMS and all the same third party support those consoles had?


I would LOVE to own a new Nintendo system that also played all the main third party "mature" games like AC, Far Cry, GTA, etc while also having MArio/Zelda and Nintnedo's lineup. 


Hoewver I have absolutely zero interest in owning an underpowered (compared to the other 2) system that has little to no third party support and aside from Nintendo's first party has a lot of throwaway "party" games and not a lot of mature content. 


AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

Nintendo consoles are family consoles. Ubisoft has realised like others before it that it's just pissing in the wind releasing games like AC etc on the WiiU. 


It seems Nintendo themselves have no interest in reframing Nintendo Consoles as anything different either.




dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

Iwata: The WiiU is NOT selling like the XONE or the PS4. Does anyone know who is responsible for this?

Frenchman: Oui, YOU!

Chev(mega77685): Says TR0LL!


Defender1978
Defender1978

My copy of Black Flag on the Wii U disagrees.  

dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

That's because there is still the "Which SCREEN must I look at now?" problem! :-P > Wii U

ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

Smart move by Ubi. Wii U is a failure and Kidtendo fans don't like Mature games. They like cartoons.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

You can't criticise Wii U owners for not buying your mature games on that console when you:


a. Release it earlier on other platforms

b. Release the Wii U version without making use of the gamepad effectively

c. Release DLC on other versions but not on Wii U

d. Use your games as flagship titles on new hardware but don't publicise the Wii U version at all


Ubisoft are to blame for their poor sales on Wii U not Nintendo and not the consumers... make the Wii U version a viable alternative to the other versions and people will buy it... make it the worst version on offer and people will go elsewhere.

Martyr77
Martyr77

I have been on the fence about buying a Wii U but it is the lack of "mature" games that keeps me from taking the plunge. Come on Nintendo rope them in somehow!

roughy762004
roughy762004

*CONTINUED* 
THOSE ARE FACTUAL STATISTICS from a UNITY press conference with 3rd parties and indie developers. 

Now, I've asked this question on various gaming sites and social media,

"Who has the best exclusives?"

NO ONE WILL ANSWER because they fear the TRUTH!! ALL I'VE BEEN HEARING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS GEN,

"Wait till all 3 of the systems come out, it's going to come down to exclusives"

And now, all these gaming journalist you've have all been getting your ammunition from, are turning on yall. Alot of these gaming jounalist are going down and losing their jobs. Whether you're a fanboy of Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft, ALL FANBOYS NEED TO BE SUCKED DOWN TO THE 100th LEVEL OF GAMING HELL!!! Because the people who actually enjoy gaming, regardless of what platform, are getting tired of the bullshit beef and grief on social media and in general.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

It's free to play online on wii u. Wii u may compromise on graphics power but it doesn't compromise on gameplay. I've played both the wii u ac games as well as splinter cell and zombi u... ubisoft have their heads up their arses... The fact of the matter is that ubisoft haven't supported their own releases on wii u. They've thrown resources at the Sony and Microsoft versions of these games while the wii u has been an afterthought. I wont be buying watchdogs. Not because I'm a nintendo gamer who doesn't play mature games but because any enthusiasm I had for that game dried up when they held it back for 6 months...

roughy762004
roughy762004

@isimitaiwo DUDE *HI FIVE* THAT"S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!!! I Tweeted and contacted Ubisoft on Miiverse...they have yet to respond to what I asked them about Half-assed ports, no day 1 dlc, reservation offers, season passes or collector's editions.

locknuts84
locknuts84

@VenkmanPHD I expect mature content, In the sense of a mature wine or cheese. Nintendo games seem to have more time and effort put in, and as a result exhibit higher quality.

XxParasite
XxParasite

@DefconRave You pronounce "ew" the same as "you"?  Those are very distinct for me...  I guess that that's dialectal variation for you!

XxParasite
XxParasite

@Stiler You know, there's a thing about those systems that aren't "underpowered"...  Let's look back at what we considered powerful in 2006: large systems that suck up a lot of power, produce a lot of heat, and make a lot of noise with their fans, but still overheat and desolder their own CPUs.  How is that acceptable?  Granted, they got better over time, but a launch unit SHOULD be good for the full lifespan.  So, what you see as underpowered I see as small, cheap to run, and zero-maintenance.

Orga777
Orga777

@Stiler

I agree. If they stopped being behind the times with their hardware, stopped with all the gimmicks, and if they learned to stop being difficult to work with for the third party developers, there wouldn't even BE a Console War. Nintendo would just dominate everything.

Piris
Piris

@AyatollaofRnR they're publshing bayonetta 2 and devilt third. And currently that's enough for me, in terms of "mature" games, as a wii u owner.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

7 million sold... less than 6% of those are users under 18...

isimitaiwo
isimitaiwo

@ChiefFreeman wiiu isnt a failure,its selling well(atleast better than the xboxone), and nintendo customers play games that are fun, be it mature or cartoony. and AC games sold pretty well on the wiiU when you compare it to install base at the time of these games release.

chansaet
chansaet

@ChiefFreeman With a statement that that I'm willing to bet your one of those middle school kids who play M rated games to make themselves feel cool.

XxParasite
XxParasite

@ChiefFreeman While it's true that I've been watching a lot of anime lately, I still find your statement to be factually challenged.

ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

Nintendo fans like yourself are the problem. You are not buying these types of games, the same as you but Mario or Zelda. Stop putting the blame on Ubisoft for not wanting to lose money developing for a dead platform.

jark888
jark888

@taien_quinn Porting games to Wii U is unquestionably troublesome, since Wii U is the only console in this generation that was developed in an old fashion ideology for anti-piracy reason. Some developer said the games that will best fit with Wii U need to build from the ground up for it, unlike PS4, Xbox consoles, or PC which are developer friendly. That's why we hardly see support from third party for Wii U. Any publishers that release their games on Wii U are kind enough imo, and I think part of the reasons they do it, is for old time sake. Besides, company like Nintendo could rise to luster before we realize it.

Vodoo
Vodoo

I wouldn't go so far as to call it success. Nintendo said they had a 200% sales increase from Mario Kart, but if their sales are abysmal to begin with then 200% isn't all that much. Notice how Nintendo avoided using real sales data.

.....

Defender1978
Defender1978

Check your grammar before you insult someone's intelligence. Don't you be late for middle school now.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

I own most of ubisoft's mature titles on wii u and those of other third parties but I can understand why other buyers don't.... and its the reasons I listed above.

Zelda and Mario games release at a very high level of quality that's why people buy them. The same can not be said of all third party titles on wii u.

hystavito
hystavito

@ChiefFreeman I'm not going to say the WiiU is already a dead platform, but I agree you can't blame Ubi for this.  It's not bad treatment or marketing, most WiiU owners simply don't want the games.


Within a fairly short time after the WiiU launch retailers were already slashing prices on third party games for it, in some cases to extremely low levels like you'd see for something on a final clearance.  The one that stands out in my mind was Walmart, in Canada anyway not sure about USA.


Around 7 months or so after launch, I don't recall offhand exactly, they put several WiiU games on sale for $10, ten freaking dollars :).  This wasn't some crazy limited time sale either, it went on for some time, maybe 2 weeks maybe more I can't recall, I personally know I went to my location several days later and it was still on.  That's also something to take note of, even after slashing the price down to the $10, most games didn't even sell out.  I don't remember the entire list, but it was mostly third party and maybe also Nintendoland.  I remember wanting Batman and it was gone, but I got AC3 and Blops2, even at $10 those didn't sell out.  I realize the install base was very low at that time, but still I think that's a good example of how little interest there is in those types of games amongst WiiU owners.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

I don't think any developer is making games for wii u out of a sense of nostalgia for the company which I think is what you're getting at. It is a fallacy to claim that wii u is difficult to program for in fact the vast majority of indie developers are saying the exact opposite. If an indie developer working from his garage finds it easy then what excuse does a massive corporation have? The confusion seems to rise from the fact that wii u's architecture is very different from the other two meaning porting is more difficult but not impossible.

Wii u owners don't want developers to make games for us out of a sense of charity either... if the product they release on wii u has fewer features and less support than the other versions then they really shouldn't be criticising the 7 million wii u owners who don't buy their games.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

I think it says a lot about the quality of those titles on wii u compared to their counterparta on other consoles.

jark888
jark888

@taien_quinn @taien_quinn The point is PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PS4 softwares develope from the same ground while Wii U's don't. Thus, there are risks (fan base for certain games, online support reliability, time, effort, cost, etc.) Publishers don't want to take. Releasing game lately would dissatisfy some fanboys for example.

jark888
jark888

@taien_quinn The point is PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PS4 softwares develope from the same ground while Wii U doesn't. Thus, there will be many risks(fan base for certain games, online support reliability, cost, effort, etc.)publishers don't want to take.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

Which is exactly the point... wii u hasn't got the third parties building games from the ground up for it. They wont because the market isn't there. But the market isnt there because they wont develop the games. Its self fulfilling. They could easily put in the effort and reap the rewards. But so long as the market is so focused on visuals over gameplay they aren't willing to take that 'risk'.

taien_quinn
taien_quinn

None of which prevents them from doing a decent job. Games can be ported to wii u and improved by the interface... If Ubisoft wanted to they could build an entire AC game around the gamepad make it unique and plug the hell out of it and it would sell massive amounts... it would even shift consoles. The fact of the matter is they'd rather plough their money into the other next gen consoles because its quicker and easier to continue to develop the games along the same formula and get the sales thats way. That's a perfectly valid choice but they're not challenging themselves to create something new.