Next World of Warcraft expansion already in the works

Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime says company has already begun work on follow-up to Warlords of Draenor.

Warlords of the Draenor, the next expansion for World of Warcraft, was only just announced on Friday, but its follow-up is already in the works, Blizzard Entertainment president Mike Morhaime told Polygon in a new interview. He explained that the company will increase the speed at which it releases new content for the MMO as a means to keep players coming back on a regular basis.

"It's going to be on us and our development team to continually look at ways to evolve the game and keep it relevant," Morhaime said. "And look for new ways of maintaining engagement within the game. We view expansions as a huge opportunity to do that.

"We recognize that we need to release them on a faster cadence than we have in the past," he added. "So we're investing in the team and our resources to enable us to do that."

Morhaime said last week during an Activision Blizzard earnings call that Blizzard has more resources dedicated to World of Warcraft now that it ever has in the history of the franchise.

World of Warcraft currently has 7.6 million subscribers, down just 100,000 from the previous quarter, but also below the 10 million subscribers it had following the release of Mists of Pandaria last year. Morhaime said Blizzard has adjusted the way its World of Warcraft development team is structured to allow them to continually look ahead to what's next for the aging MMO.

"We also have to start looking further down the road and planning further out," he said. "We've already started working on the expansion after this one [Warlords of Draenor]. We've never done that in the past. We've been doing one expansion at a time, sort of a very linear content creation model, and we've looked at ways that we can parallelize that. So that while we're working on this expansion we're looking at the new one."

For more on Warlords of Draenor, check out GameSpot's previous coverage of the expansion.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and is a big UCONN athletics fan.

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ilivnat
ilivnat

i have been reading for a while now and i wanted to say that you all have vallid points and you all raise real questions. i am not a "veteran player" i have only been playing for 5 years. i am 16. but i am a bit excited about the "faster expansions" for these reasons

1. blizzard is a HUGE company and DEFINITELY has the capital to produce these games faster. i think that from what ive seen. it is getting better. personally i would have preferred 5 more levels, 1 new class, and new content or , 1 new race and new content with 5 more levels. i think there is a redundancy with classes. 

2. This expansion is showing us something we haven't seen in a long time. A real Story. 

3. THE EXPANSIONS MUST COME FASTER, because people lose interest and i understand why, it gets boring to lvl the same thing over and over and over again just "re-skinned" I dont want it to be to fast, but it needs to be faster, =

these are the pros. 

  however there are some real issues. 

       1. i dont understand why the expansions cost $60 (without bonus content) and we also have a $15 month sub. 

                                          1.a. i dont mind a sub but if thew lowered the sub, they would make so much more                               money because more people would join. i would feel comfortable with like $9 or $10. it may not                                seem like much but over 5 years its almost 1k without the expansions. the expansions should                                   be priced according to what we are getting. CATA i think should have been $40 for the new races but sucky content. 

                          mop should have been $40 aswel for a new race and new class and a little better content. (and although sales are great, people aren't gonna wait until 4 months after the release to get the expansion, its not realistic because all of ur friends get ahead and then you play catch up.)

WoD $60 and this is the only one that makes sense here's why:

1. its new content

2. GARRISONS

3. it lets you "veteran" players play the game you love and cherish, and lets players like me. experience it for the first time.

4. NEW ABILITIES

So that that and hopefully, if they come out faster there will be a decrease in demand and the price goes down. (which it must)

                . I HAVE TO SAY I LIKE THE IDEA OF A NEW MMMO BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CORRILATED TO WOW., THEY HAVE TOI SOMEHOW TIE IT IN AND THE ONLY WAY I SEE IT GETTING DONE IS WITH A FEW MORE EXPANSIONS TO BUILD A PLOT. 


thanks guys

deansimp111
deansimp111

World of warcraft will carry on for many years to come, and many will still be left to fight this addiction, i have friends still on it, one doesn't have a Job now he's 37 unemployed, and i know for sure he'll be on it till the End. i use to play WoW but become very repetitive and generic, i wanted something new so i went back on to casual FPS Games, it comes to great caution when you first Buy world of warcraft you'll be sucked in to a fantasy that looks Real music everything is super, the landscapes just Great. Buy please be prepared if you want to play WoW it isn't a Game you complete over Night it's a Game you never complete never see a ending never have the best gear you are endlessly Fighting for the Best but still never see that day because another expansion has come out, more patches more updates, you can't escape it, you will see yourself drowning in a corner warped in a dimension   many lost wifes kids Jobs and yes they are True stories even lost lifes put on weight  there health gone down hill just please please for the love of god think about it first wow isn't a walk in the park Game

snake_eyes1992
snake_eyes1992

no Titan or any other new mmo they are working on atm :'( ! I WANT A NEW MMO FROM BLIZZARD T.T or atleast do something to WoW, u know what ? i'd say to hell with titan, u know what they should do ? they should announce a new expansion from WoW but in a new game ! u know what i mean like after warlord of draenor the next expansion they should release from WoW should be in a totally new game and a new engine cause i hate the idea of titan ( robots etc .. ) and i love orcs and WoW !! this way every body from WoW universe would switch to it and every body who quit will come back and double that with people who will be interested, that's a golden idea right here but no body listens to me EVER, ever :'(

taaaaaaaaad
taaaaaaaaad

I may be the only one who feels this way. But, WoW could benefit endlessly, simply be implementing some of the ingenious ideas DAoC had. With a minuscule amount of players compared to WoW, it's content/gameplay/and especially PvP make it much more intriguing and enjoyable than a cookie cutter game that only adds more content to skim through, rather than adding depth to a game has has the potential to be much more than it is.

Dexyu
Dexyu

I could get into it if i didnt have to buy 5 f copies of the same game!! aka expansions + subscriptions fuck no

Baconelite
Baconelite

It killed my interest when they simplified the game too much with Cataclysm and continued in that direction with MoP.  I want big ass, complicated talent trees, 30+ different kind of stats and spell rotations that have to be spot on in order to do optimal performance.

korvus
korvus

I have no idea what the current state of the game is, but the reason I quit was because Blizzard's definition of "expansion" was merely reskinning everything and sell it as new content...or not even bothering to reskin and actually release the same content. That being said this latest expansion seems to be a step in the right direction, with improvements that have been needed for years so let's hope they're actually putting more work into the expansions rather than just doing even less so that it can be out the door faster...

Geertwillers
Geertwillers

Certainly not something to be excited about. If you are already completely focussed on a new expansion when the next one isn't even out yet, you can never maintain high quality. How are you ever going to fix balancing issues, gameplay that needs adjusting, listen to feedback and do something with it, and stuff like that, if you don't even take time for evaluation cause you're already steamrolling on. 

They pulled the same shit with Diablo 3. Apparently a lot of issues will be fixed, but only with the next expansion. Meanwhile, you are stuck with a broken game for years, until you fork out more cash. Saddest part is that most people let themselves get ripped off like that. Personally I'm not sending them another dime for their broken crap. They need to learn to simply fix their stuff when there is an outcry for it, not only when they feel the need for more cash.

Blizzard in 2013 is so far off from what it once was. It's typically Activision, it does seem the whole Blizzard spirit is gone.

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

Warlords of Draenor is actually bringing some great fixes to WoW, potentially better than the last few expansion packs. Amazing that they can still make a killing out of the game.

jophy
jophy

doesn't matter if the amount of subs drop. it is still the most played MMO. far exceeding others. the years of content and updates made this game so huge.

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

Go back to outland, after that go back to northrend.. right. Why isn't there a new class? The demon hunter, this would be the expansion to do it. 

Greyslay
Greyslay

I don't know why but to be this seems like a filler expansion not a real expansion. I say that because doing the Legendary story line in MoP at least made me believe the next one might possibly be something with the Burning Legion. Since Wrathion speaks so adamant about there return. Then they said Wrathion would barely make an appearance in Warlords of Draenor. I guess time will tell I could be way off.

Morgueson
Morgueson

They start working on the next expansion as soon as one get released, it has always been this way.

killerchick24
killerchick24

I personally am very excited for this expansion! Do agree that they should branch off soon on the Titan project or other new idea. But still! Warlords of Draenor will be epic! Way better than Mists of Lamedaria xD

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

I think its time for Blizzard to move on from WoW or at least make a Warcraft 4 or give WoW a rest for a while then create an all new WoW 2 or something like that.

thomasn7
thomasn7

So this is actually why they pulled so many devs off of the Titan project just so they can have more people try to save WoW by pumping out expansions faster. They told us it was because they wanted redesign their new mmo but I'm calling their bluff on that. It is always about WoW and will continue to always be about WoW. Pretty sad from a gamers perspective.

Genocide6sic6
Genocide6sic6

wow, comments are under censorship by the gspot gestopo.  Even a even-tempered, mild mannered comment that challenged gspots writing  was not posted.

*let's see if this sticks:  gspot's "news blurbs" are pretty much only useful to those with a drool cup attached to their chin.  I feel my IQ has dropped just clicking this site the past few months.  Been coming here for about 15 years and this place has hit rock bottom.

GT_APE
GT_APE

GS: Why does "Post Comment as" erase my comment and bring me to another page when I log in????

On WoW, it will take a serious graphics overhaul for me to go back to this game. There are too many modern-looking MMORPG's out there (FF14 for example is beautiful and so is GW2, both of which I play when I have time off from Path of Exile, which is pure awesome (and free!)). 

notorious98
notorious98

@Dexyu A couple of weeks ago, they were selling their Battle Chest (WoW, Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, and Cataclysm) on their website for $5 and Mists of Pandaria for $15. They have deals regularly that knocks the price down a large amount.

notorious98
notorious98

@Baconelite Talent trees and stats are an illusion of complexity.  In reality, someone will theorycraft what's optimal, put it on a website, and everybody will have the same cookie cutter spec with a couple talent points that are different in talents that are just flavor.  Then you'll gem/enchant/reforge all of your stats to be whatever your most important stat happens to be.  There's no complexity in that.  It's unnecessary bloat.

notorious98
notorious98

@Geertwillers I'm sure that the only people working on the next expansion are the guys creating the story.  They've likely already finished the story for this expansion, so they're beginning the next one.  The guys that you mentioned are always working in the present.  You gotta understand that the guys who design these games are set up into teams.  Meaning the guys who come up with quests are not the same as the ones who come up with raids.  The guys who design character models aren't working on PvP environments.  Every group is compartmentalized.  Since there are some things that these guys can't work on until they start working on the next expansion, why not begin them working on the next expansion?  Besides, it's like they wrote in the article.  There's more manpower currently working on the game then there ever has been in the past.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@Geertwillers Blizzard gets 0 cents of my money ever again after Diablo 3. Although I did pay for a wow sub recently, only one month though.

bj91x
bj91x

I can see why you'd be worried, but as somebody who used to work in the game industry, I can say you don't have to worry much about your first paragraph.

Conceptual work begins very early. It's not rare to work on them before the previous game is released. Plus, the designers that are working on the concepts for the next game aren't the programmers that will be balancing the previous game or the liasons that will be obtaining feedbacks.

As for Diablo 3, you don't need to fork out more money to get the fixes. The fixes are coming in a patch.

JaiGuru
JaiGuru

@Geertwillers That's a silly thing to say. Concept phase design of the expansion-after-next has nothing to do with finalizing the mechanics of WoD, uses none of the same inter-company resources.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@AuronAXE Cataclysm brought a "fix" to the fact that Blizz left the game world unfinished for 8 years, but under the guise of destroying most of it so they had to redesign a lot of the older zones. 

Silvermoon is still on a different server and doesn't actually exist in the Quel'thelas zone, same story with many of the cities.

What I'd like is for WoD to redo all the 8 year old models and make them not look like ass, put in some actual customization, as well as add things in that have been direly missing. Like Kul Tiras. Clearly Kul Tiras still exists in the world, as they keep the Kul Tiras marines in Durotar to this day. Yet it's not anywhere on the map, mostly because they decided to swallow gilneas and put an underwater zone where Kul Tiraz or the troll island should be.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@Janpieterzun I'm still surprised they didn't flat out ruin the game and put in spell-breakers.

notorious98
notorious98

@Janpieterzun Because the game already has 11 unbalanced classes.  Why throw another one into the mix?

normanislost
normanislost

Well the legion do attack draenor we already know this so I highly doubt they won't make an appearance

DIGN
DIGN

@GH05T-666 As long as people still pay $60 for this and then another few for their monthly fee they'll never stop. WoW is the CoD of MMOs.

korvus
korvus

@Genocide6sic6 That's "even-tempered and mild mannered"? You offered zero valuable input and no suggestions on how to improve the website. How is that relevant feedback?

Baconelite
Baconelite

@notorious98 @Baconelite You are 100% right. I guess I just wanted to sound smart as I complained about all the expansions that came after WotLK. But to me it still feels simplified, even if it's just an illusion of complexity.

Geertwillers
Geertwillers

@JaiGuru @Geertwillers How are you sure? You don't know Blizzard's internal structure. Besides, even if it is an entirely seperate unit with a set amount of people that never changes, it's very easy when there is something wrong with the game to say: "Yeah let's just fix that in the next expansion."

Exactly like they're doing with Diablo 3.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@normanislost It would not remotely surprise me if you go back in time and fight the burning legion (you're already going back in time) to make sure the timeline stays the same.

frylock1987
frylock1987

@AuronAXE @Morgueson  

well...they did say they were working on more expansions when MoP came out. they said they had atleast 2-3 in the works

frylock1987
frylock1987

@DIGN @GH05T-666  

Except they dont get yearly releases and all updates and add ons through patches are completely free.

GT_APE
GT_APE

@stan_hg @GT_APE ok sue me, I like graphics (but gameplay always comes first). Why can't I have both for my hard-earned money?

BTW I've been playing games since pong came out son.

notorious98
notorious98

@stan_hg @GT_APE Product of the current generation of gamer.  More worried about the graphics, less worried about the gameplay.  GW2's gameplay is questionable, at best.  I haven't played FF14, so I can't comment.  PoE is great, but it's still just a clickety click dungeon crawler.  I can only play those for so long before getting tired of clicking whatever my bets AoE is over and over again.

gnookergi
gnookergi

@emperiox

It's as the other guys are saying. The old system was flawed because of the cookie cutter builds. You were "gimping" yourself if you didn't following them, and anyone with any seriousness in playing the game was foolish to not follow them. Blizzard saw this and developed their new system that truly gives you the choice and freedom you want, because with the new system you can always be viable regardless of what talents you choose. The same cannot be said about the old system.


To me, you sound like someone who didn't know how to play at end game.

notorious98
notorious98

@emperiox @notorious98 @Baconelite That doesn't make my point moot, it just means you would prefer to go into a fight gimped and be ignorant of how your class actually works.  Which means you probably don't raid and spend the majority of your time doing dailies and pulling less DPS then healers. Either way, your own personal opinion doesn't invalidate what I said.  Unless you're going to explain how talent trees or stacking agility/strength/intellect/spirit gems is "complex".

sicness277
sicness277

@emperiox @notorious98 @Grenadeh  It's not about people all having the same talents, but being able to swap talents for different circumstances. I recall in a raid that most classes changed at least 2-3 talents during a clear, by typically having a few talents that were better for certain boss fights. It's the same for PvP, where some talents in arena are better against certain match-ups. That's what their aim was for, not to remove cookie cutter specs.

notorious98
notorious98

@emperiox @notorious98 @Grenadeh I'm not particularly sure what this has to do with anything.  Nobody compared how a frost mage plays as opposed to a fire mage.  The point is that if you're a frost mage, you spec'd out a specific way or you gimped yourself.  If you were a fire mage, you spec'd out a certain way or you gimped yourself.  Nothing that anybody has said talks about whether or not the two specs play the same or differently.

emperiox
emperiox

@notorious98 @Grenadeh Guess what, before people didn't all have the same talent trees. Now, they do. Some people played frost mages, some people played fire. It's absolutely stupid to compare the two, they are completely different playstyles.

notorious98
notorious98

@GrenadehThis doesn't even make sense.  The classes aren't any more meaningless now then they were when there were talent trees.  Because, yes, spending 5 talent points in order to get 5% crit was both exciting and meaningful.  Either you spent certain talent points in certain areas or you gimped yourself.  That's not meaningful or exciting.  With talent trees, every spec's tree became the same due to the fact that you either used that one or you were at a disadvantage.  It wasn't fun, it was a requirement.

You act like you're the only veteran player.  I've played the game off and on since early TBC and I don't find talent trees engaging in any game whether it's WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc.  Even now, with certain talents you pick, they're still the best DPS wise.  I.E. Glaive Toss is better on single target fights.  However, being able to choose what kind of CC talent I get or what kind of speed bonus I prefer allows me to base it around the way I choose to play.  Unlike when I was pigeonholed into Marksmanship in Arenas because it was the only spec that gave me an interrupt and silence ability.

And I believe I already mentioned that stats were also an illusion of complexity and unnecessary bloat.  Or did you miss that in your haste to post a rant about how you don't like change?

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@Baconelite @notorious98 He's not right. The game has unnecessary bloat either way - stat stacking. They  have made the classes utterly meaningless and bland. All taking away the talent trees and replacing them with bullshit did was make the game less fun for veteran players. 

It's to the point now where there pretty much aren't buffs and even without them you can roflstomp everything.

sicness277
sicness277

@Geertwillers @JaiGuru  Didn't you just negate your own argument? If you don't know Blizzard's internal structure how can you assume they're so focused on the further off expansion?

For all we know from what's mentioned in this article, it could only be as far along as them deciding on a villain and the story line - which takes away from the current expansion how? 

I get the concern, but it's a bit much to assume as much as you are when you don't know what's really going on.As much as the person who replied to you, yet somehow your assumptions are more believable?

korvus
korvus

@Grenadeh True; next time somebody says I'm not being helpful I'll reply with "at least I didn't insult your mom"