Next PlayStation to lock out used games - Report

Sony's 2013-dated new console supposedly code-named Orbis, will boast system that locks games to single PSN account; no backward compatibility for PS3 library planned.

Buckle up, Sony enthusiasts. A tipster has told Kotaku that the PlayStation 4 is named "Orbis" and that it will feature an anti-used-game system, offer no backward compatibility with PlayStation 3 titles, and ship in holiday 2013.

Orbis is just a code name…or is it?

As for the first part of the rumor, multiple sources told the blog that the Orbis will sport some sort of anti-used-game measure. Full Orbis games will be available via Blu-ray disc or as a PlayStation Network download and will be locked to a single PSN account. Players will not be able to circumvent the system by remaining offline, as the source said users will be forced to be connected to the PSN to boot up their games.

Gamers will be free to trade in Orbis games, but the person who purchases a secondhand disc will be restricted to a limited trial mode or "some other form of content restriction." These gamers will be forced to pay a fee to unlock the full title, according to the source.

An earlier report suggested Microsoft's next-generation Xbox would also include some method of blocking gamers from playing used titles. Microsoft has not commented on the matter.

As for backward compatibility, Kotaku's source says Sony has no plans to offer such a service with the Orbis. This would mark a change in approach for Sony, as the PlayStation 2, PS3, and PlayStation Vita have all supported their predecessors' games at launch in some form.

Concerning timing, the Orbis will ship during holiday 2013, according to the tipster. This person says Sony has been sending Orbis dev kits to "select developers" since the beginning of the year. New iterations of these kits were reportedly dispatched earlier this month, with "finalized beta units" headed to developers at the end of 2012.

This matches up with an earlier rumor, which suggested that several studios--including one "major Sony-owned" developer--had moved entirely to PS4 game development.

What kind of technology will the Orbis run on? The site is reporting that developers are being told to plan for an AMD x64 CPU and AMD Southern Islands GPU, the latter of which is capable of running Orbis titles at a resolution of 4096x2160 and 3D games at 1080p. It has been previously suggested that the next-generation PlayStation would be powered by AMD technology.

A Sony representative declined to comment on the matter. For more on speculation concerning the next generation of consoles, check out GameSpot's rumor roundup feature.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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skunkpants
skunkpants

Considering my PSN rarely works due to maintenance and unexpected drops in connections. Not to forget their handling of online security. This new PS4 will have to be very good at holding a connection and the PSN will have to be designed by the gods to enable us to play the games which we will pay good money for.

Personally I don't think this console will sell if they go ahead with all these rumours.

zemc77
zemc77

I won't believe it until confirmed by Sony.

almoalgam
almoalgam

wait till you see what sony comes up with....

you guys will be running to get it first

jockie_chan
jockie_chan

From a consumer perspective this is terrible for me.

But after seeing a company like Gamestop completely leech off developers (screwing them over completely taking 100% profit - also with greedy pricing to the customer), I can understand their choice in doing this, but i definitely do not support it.

This move will kill gamestop, but it will come with a Huge annoyance for all the users. Is that worth it?

PublicEnemyNo4
PublicEnemyNo4

I this is the case I'm keeping my PS3!!! No used games, no backwards compatibility! This is just bull sh*t, its just another way to make a bucket of cash. I hope the rumors aren't true :(

division_9
division_9

If this is true, then it's PC for me.

Gjinckxs85
Gjinckxs85

I could care less about the Anti-Used issue. If I buy a game, it's usually new. Especially with Blu-Ray Discs. But no backwards compatibility? There is no longevity to the games you buy. So if you buy a game on PS3, ten years later, after your PS3 has died (and it will), you'll have no way to play it? That's a little much to be asking from your consumers! $60 for a game you'll play for 2 years. Give me a PC any day! I can play whatever I want, whenever I want. Don't have to worry about backwards compatibility with Steam!

Drake2013
Drake2013

I'm sticking with my PS3, PSP and XBox 360. This PS4 "anit-used game system", is a bunch of bull

swaya21
swaya21

Well If this is true, then I will just be sticking with my xbox 360, and ps3 until they die out. Then its going to be on to PC gaming after that. I refuse to deal with that headache bull$#!* that they talking about. It is not worth it.

DucttapeWarrior
DucttapeWarrior

Yeah, they shouldn't block you from using used games, what if someone doesn't have wi-fi? Does this mean you won't be able to play the PS4? Also, if you wanna play a game at a friends house, you can't just bring the disk over. 

Elliander
Elliander

Looks like the next wave of consoles won't be worth trying out. If they do not support used games the shelf life will be limited to the life of the console. If the console lives for about 4 years, after that time it will be impossible to purchase any titles for it (since they would all be used) making it nothing more than a paper weight. More so, it will require internet access to play an off-line game just to verify you still own it making it's usability very limited even when supported. I suggest boycotting any system that implements such a feature.  Then again, the Nintendo 3DS will cease to function entirely if you don't accept updates while the New PSP will let you play games you already own if you pay for them again "at a discount" so clearly the average consumer isn't concerned enough.

Topnotchtwitch
Topnotchtwitch

I could see Sony and/or microsoft "leaking" info about locking used games in hopes that the opposing creators would utilize it, then pull back at the last second and watch as their sales skyrocket. Its a good tactic.  

syler4815162342
syler4815162342

If they are truly Smart they can see Nvidia can offers much much better Technology! all of the Digital Artists, Game Dev people are using Nvidia for their works! only with Cuda Technology GTX 690 they can run Unreal Engine 4!!! Every PC Gamer knows how Powerful Nvidia Physics are! even MassFX on 3ds max have been created by Nvidia!!! now they are Using AMD(ATI)!!!!!! for next Gen console's Graphic Cards!!!!! O.0

jer_1
jer_1

Sh*t ideas are sh*t. I will not be buying either consoles if they pull this kind of crap, I'm quite certain a LOT of gamers will be doing the same. 

willm453
willm453

This also means you can't take a game over to a friends house to play...This is pretty whack... YOU HEAR THAT SONY and MICROSOFT? I THINK YOU'RE WHACK!

Darnasian
Darnasian

@lilrobda1

 

Still trolling I see...tell me...when did I ever said "cool story bro" at the beginning of a comment troll?

AvatarCloud
AvatarCloud

 @DucttapeWarrior Exactly man, it's like they want to take away something gamers have had all their lives and that is saying "hey bro, bring along <insert game name here> when you come to my place tonight".... I don't see the freeking point to be honest, I mean people don't pirate PS3 already it was mission accomplshed... now they go overboards. Idiots

jer_1
jer_1

 @willm453 Replace "whack" with "farking idiots" and I think you will be a lot closer to reality.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

What does "cool story bro" have to do with the fact you post raging comments to not one, but multiple users?

 

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

We have a sequel. lol

 

lol I didn't forget the " ", I merely agreed to what you were. There was no copying(like you never copied me lol).

 

"Case closed and I won"

 

When was this a competition? I never agreed to compete with you(who competes over internet comments? We see where your priorities are troll lol). But since you claim you win, then I claim I win long ago. Why? Because you came back after you were suspended, plus more stuff that proves your stupidity. lol

 

See you again girl who tries to win over the internet. lol

 

The End?

 

 

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 

 

Still copying me? 

I told you that you're beyond repair XD

Yeah you're a ratarded moron kid...I agree on that

Oh and you forgot the " " because you copied me noob

How original!

 

Case closed and I won

 

I won't even bother reading the next idiotic comment you post... I will just delete it since I won and you are too retarded XD

 

See you later moron XD

 

THE END!

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Yes, we can finally agree that you're a moron kid beyond despair.

 

Case closed.

 

The end?

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 

 

Then finally we can both agree that you're a moron kid beyond repair

Case closed

Finally you got into your senses

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

I'm glad you agree. You know, because raging at people and starting arguments with multiple users is never a good thing.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Such a moron kid....eh...you're beyond repair....it's not a thing of growing up...it's a thing of maturity...one that you'll never have

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 

 

Just like I thought...you just realized how retarded your "joke" was and you don't want to say it again...keep your excuses and lies for someone who believes a troll like u

Oh and copying my ideas and comments again? How original..just like your PS3 "joke"...

I think the only joke here is you kid XD

You are an insult to a 5th grader XD

Next comment you post will mark the 10th reply since I made fun of you and showed everybody what an idiot u are

Just wanted to let u know I will do it again XD

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

You should remember it if you brought it up. If not, it's in the comments you lazy moron.

 

lol Oh I wonder from what third world and uneducated country you hail since in your country 5th graders(trolls) consider telling people to kill themselves and anything similar to that a joke...

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Can you repeat that "joke" moron?

 

Oh I wonder from what third world and uneducated country you hail since in your country 5th graders are obviously able to make fun of some trolls (you) family...

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Let me correct you dumb dumb...

 

It was a factual joke about the PS3. If you didn't care you wouldn't have replied to it.

 

I'm the 5th grader yet you're the one thats always bringing up a persons parents and raging over the internet. lol Nice 5th grade response 5th grader.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Let me correct you dumb kid...

If you knew how to make a joke we wouldn't have been here but I don't really care so it's your problem

And the only 5th grader here I think it's either you or your dad...

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

A 5th grader deserves a 5th grade comeback. It's only logical. Yes, you need to get a sense of humor, because if you did, we wouldn't be here now, would we? Right Mr. Rage.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 

 

WOW...JUST WOW...Is that all you got? A 5th grade comeback? It seems I underestimated your stupidity and lack of intelligence & knowledge of English...

Kid...go kill yourself...you are lame...you suck...you are not funny...and you are a big hypocrite

Your first reply to me was to "go and buy some humor"...u sure that's me who has to buy some humor?

U suck balls dude...go kill yourself...I feel bad for whatever tarded family u got

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

lol Confessing to me what you really think of yourself. Thank you.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 

 

Troll will always be a troll....I pity you and your worthless life...it's too bad people like you exist just to use some more oxygen...I highly doubt you are the only one of this kind...I actually think it's a full bloodline and family of tards like you...*sigh* Such a shame

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

*sigh* Your intelligence is highly questionable. You shouldn't be talking about grammar. lol Think before speaking. Also, it looks like where you come from they grade internet comments. lol

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Sorry but I don't do research on idiot troll kids like you that actually no one knows because they are just some random noobs on the internet :D

Also I advice you to go back to primary school and learn some more grammar...right "dumb dumb" kid?

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Who am I to say? Hmm....maybe you need to do your research, right dumb dumb?

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1  @Darnasian Who are you to say i fit the description of a troll you fking tarded troll kid?

Oh btw for the first time I agree with you

You actually are right dumb dumb

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

@Darnasian But you fit the description of a troll, so I'm actually right dumb dumb.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

@Darnasian Humiliated? Lol Not from a troll that gets into multiple arguments then gets suspended only to come back for more. LOL

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Contradictory is the fact that you act as a smart ass but you are always humiliated by me every time you comment

So how's your search for a life going troll?

btw get some hair grown up you half wit

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

@Darnasian That's highly contradictory, as shown in the comments.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Here's the thing noob...I'm not noob & I'm not a troll...so I suggest you get a life

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 So 2 days in your world mean 5? WOW was to go noob troll...

Learn the basics of counting first will u?

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

I suggest you check again because it was nearly a full week before you came back after not learning your lesson. Sorry, you aren't considered being a person. Also, for someone who claims to be older than me, you're the only one mentioning a persons parents. LOL retarded, eh!

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 5 days? XD Boy you're the biggest moron I've ever met...know why? because you don't know how to fking count....so u got itchy there kid? Didn't your mom tell u it's not nice to talk to older people like that? or is she as tarded as you are?

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Sorry to say but I didn't get banned ...just suspended for 3 days from commenting and that's all...but your too tarded to understand that so learn some more English kid...and that was the first and only time i got suspended so saying "always getting banned" makes u look a lot more tarded than you are

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Considering you're the one thats always arguing, and getting banned, that applies to you.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Same age? Man if we're the same age than I have no hope for humanity left considering your huge lack of intelligence and mental stability...

People like you make me think abortion should be legal for 15s

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

False facts? I saw you arguing with other users besides me, as shown in the comments below.

 

"then u moved to 25 others"? What does that mean?

 

Funny, because you also say "Cool story"(plus, the fact you start arguments and come back after you've been suspended), meaning we're the same age from what you described.

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Still trolling and bringing up false facts? I started just one argument and then u moved to 25 others....mind your words prick and learn how to wash your ass first brat

BTW....by the "language" you speak with "Cool story"  you should be around 10 years old so a lot younger than me..so go and watch some cartoons kiddo

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Says the kid who started countless arguments and got suspended.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

An 8 year old can understand what I typed in the last comment. How am I changing the subject when I'm answering your question? Lying? I state nothing but facts, as shown in all my comments.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Theres only one way to find out who copied who first.

 

How can you tell that my english is bad from internet comments?

 

I believe my previous comments answered whether its a lie or not.

 

How can I have no life? Once again, my previous comments answer that(you know, the part where you replied to me then came back days later to leave the same comment when I didn't reply back yet, and lets add your suspension as well lol).

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

What am I copying? Also, didn't you copy first? Hmm....

 

"Thx for admitting you have no life what so ever"

 

That doesn't add up to what I stated long ago.

 

The only one here who needs to grow up is you. Stop trying to get acknowledged over the internet. It won't help you out in the real world.

 

 

Darnasian
Darnasian

 @lilrobda1 Still copying me ? What a noob troll you are XD

Now I can make more fun of you....btw Thx for admitting you have no life what so ever ;)...the fact you copy me makes me think what the scum of the earth like yourself would look like...

grow up kid...you're too small for this world and unfortunately for you a lot more stupid than the laws permit

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

Yes, making fun of an idiot lying pussy like yourself sounds like a troll thing.

 

Relevant? Clearly, someone doesn't remember mentioning that he brought trolls here to show them our conversation when he was serious(hence me mentioning it). Contradiction.

 

Invalid? Yes, your argument and life is, so you resort to having fights over the internet to be someone.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

What am I copying? I only see words that I made.

 

Well, bringing other trolls into this is quite a "pussy" move. That's coming from someone who supposedly cared about keeping the conversation relevant.

 

INTERNET. Is that better?

 

Your argument is invalid.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

First of all, the question doesn't need an answer, since it's quite obvious why you back here 2 days after replying to me when I didn't reply back yet. LOL

 

Second....lame is someone who does something lame(you), which the other person uses as facts.

 

Third....I don't start arguments(I can just thumb down the persons comment because it's smart to do so). Why would I take "internet" comments seriously? Why would I take a person with no sense of humor who likes to start arguments and gets a thrill out of it seriously?

 

Yes, you are beyond repair as a person(not intelligent) and also from your actions(as shown in your arguments with other users on this page) it seems you are also mind fked.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

You bring up nonsense like wasting time when I explained that comments ago. Talk serious to me? I was never serious from the beginning, as stated long ago, so why should I care if you talk serious or not? Lamest points? Everything I stated came from your actions. So yes, you are lame. Dodge the question again.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian 

 

The only hypocrite here is you. You're the only troll here. Funny how you never said "So long" if it meant you were coming back later. Here you go coming to random conclusions again. Just like you say I'm some random persons friend, why am I a pussy like that random person? I thought you said you weren't serious? I have a real life, it's you that keeps coming back whether being suspended or me not replying back yet.  Still dodging the question, eh?

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

No, no one would say "So long"(on the internet)  unless they were leaving(hence all your other posts not having "So long" in it). LOL What a dummy.I didn't initialize anything. I asked you if I spelled his name right, hence "Did I spell it right darnasian?"

 

Yes, I should have been long suspended for making a factual joke then forcing you to reply to me.  Pussy? The only pussy here is you for starting foolish arguments with other users.

 

I don't recall ever saying "Goodbye" or anything related to that, nor was I suspended. If I said goodbye or if I was suspended I would have moved on, but that didn't happen. From your point of weird point of view, I may be a hypocrite, but from my point of view, I'm just doing what Darnasian did since she's the first to do it.

 

You've dodged this question yet again. Why is it that you replied to me then came back 2 days later to leave the same comment when I didn't reply back to you yet?  

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

LOL Please, don't sugar coat it. You know you meant goodbye, but I forced you to come back. Same with when you got suspended. I forced you to come back and reply to me(because you not liking me makes so much sense to come back). LOL

 

Us? He was replied to you and me, but I never said anything to him, so basically, you were his main focus.

Yes, he reported you, but if you didn't do anything wrong, then you wouldn't have gotten suspended. 

 

Are you dumb? I didn't come back 1 full month. Also, I never said goodbye, or anything relating to that word(unlike you). As I asked you days ago.....why would you leave a comment to me, then come back 2 days later to leave that same comment when I didn't reply back yet?    

 

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

"So STFU troll I feel sorry for your parents. So long troll."

 

That is what you stated. Do you deny it?

 

To you it may seem off topic, but to me, who made the original post, it was on topic, and you who didn't understand it, thought it was off topic. 

 

If I started insulting, why wasn't I reported and suspended like you were(someone would have reported me)?

 

You were suspended and came back for more. You clearly gave a sh*t about me if you did that, and also coming back after saying "So long." LOL

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

You're not gonna ever say this again and this is the last time you say it? Coming from the guy that said he was done, yet still returned. Hmm... Yeah, it's in the comments.  I went off topic after you went off topic, hence me mentioning it from the near beginning. There was never a user that talked to me when you stated that we were friends. I'm glad you know that you should check the mirror because you've been doing this ince the beginning.

 

Funny thing that a stupid troll would come back after he was SUSPENDED for hostile actions against another user then continue. LESSON NOT LEARNED, EH? Also, how do I not have a life when I come on Gamespot for 5 mins(I use 1 min or less on you)?  Your argument is thus invalid.

 

I've just proven the fact that trolls do not have a life. LOL

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

As I stated since probably the near beginning of all this, "it's all in the comments." Coming from the guy who somehow connects 2 random people together and thinks they are friends. Coming from the guy who rages at people, and starts arguments. Coming from the guy that says things then things the other person said it. I can keep going, but as I said....."it's all in the comments."

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

No, I don't rage, unlike you.

I'd like to know what you smoke.

I don't think you lie on purpose. It's more of a mental problem. I recommend seeing a doctor, as I said so many comments ago.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Well, at least I can believe certain parts that you say since you always take the things that you say and make yourself believe that it came from the person you were in a conversation with.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Says Mr. Suspended.

 

Funny considering I live in America. Maybe it's you that lives in the UK.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Your argument would have been valid.....if I was a troll. Insulting = Imflammatory, but you wouldn't know that, would you? The only user that I had a conversation with is you, then after days or weeks during our talk, the user you were arguing with came back and said something, which I agreed with him/her(called you a troll), and that was it(I never replied to that person). So it's clear you have bad memory and are making things up in that mind of yours. You were reported for your unkind acts, and thus suspended.

 

Oh, so you assume I'm British now, eh? This can go along with you saying some random user you were arguing with is connected to me and iss thus my friend. LOL

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Let me remind you that you still didn't logically explain how you came to the conclusion that another user and I are connected. You for one are a troll, hence being suspended after being reported. If you weren't trolling, you wouldn't have been suspended.

 

Question: Who is we? You and the other user insulted yourself?

 

Begone troll.

 

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

If I was trolling, I would have been suspeneded by a mod, but clearly that hasn't happened, unlike a certain Darnasian.

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

Pr0bl3m?

 

LOL All my comments have been perfect(unless I purposely did it :D) , and you bring up my mistake. Get off the internet grammar nazi. No one takes internet comments seriously. Troll elsewhere.

 

lilrobda1
lilrobda1

 @Darnasian

 

lol I knew you'd bring that up, but I only did you because you did it because you start everything. Also, how do you leave a comment then come back 2 days later to leave the same comment again? LOL "Get a life pennyless kid."