Next Mass Effect and Dragon Age games using Frostbite 3

BioWare general manager says studio's upcoming titles are using DICE's latest engine.

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Both Dragon Age III: Inquisition and the next Mass Effect game will be powered by DICE's Frostbite 3 engine, BioWare has said.

"For everyone who's been asking after the #BF4 reveal, #DA3 and the next Mass Effect are also using Frostbite 3. It's awesome," said BioWare Edmonton and Montreal general manager Aaryn Flynn on Twitter.

The Frostbite 3 engine was announced hand in hand with DICE's Battlefield 4 reveal at GDC 2013 earlier this week. Seventeen minutes of Battlefield 4 footage was shown, detailing many of the visual improvements DICE has made to the Frostbite engine since Battlefield 3.

The Frostbite 3 engine does not currently support the Wii U, however. Battlefield executive producer Patrick Bach recently told Eurogamer that "the Wii U is not a part of our focus right now."

In a blog post back in September 2012, Dragon Age executive producer Mark Darrah said BioWare was using Frostbite 2 as a "foundation" for development on Dragon Age III.

Both Dragon Age III and Battlefield 4 are due to launch later in 2013.

Discussion

366 comments
vivekraikkonen
vivekraikkonen

Please excuse my ignorance and I probably missed something really obvious down the line somewhere, but wasn't Mass Effect supposed be a trilogy and ME3 the conclusion? Atleast that was how it was promoted? Hadn't the series concluded then??

And please, no spoilers about ME3. Haven't played it yet.

MR-PERSIANGAMER
MR-PERSIANGAMER

is frostbite 3 developed?? i don't think so, i think it's forstbite 2.n(2.1 or something like this)
frostbite2 taken 3 year to develop!!! anyway idk!!

June-GS
June-GS

Wait, what? Am I the only one who noticed that BioWare's general manager's name is "Aaryn Flynn"?? LOL

YSDG
YSDG

I know graphics should come second in RPG games like DA or ME, but OOOHYEAH!!!!!!!!!!

This is the sign to upgrade my PC!!!!

krisk7
krisk7

RPGs are mainly about story. Grahphics should not be the main selling point. Would the Frostbite 3 make red, green or blue look any better?

Devils-DIVISION
Devils-DIVISION

I'm really intrigued to find out how the Frostbite engine will function with RPG's like DAIII. I just hope BW really took to consideration all of the mistake of DAII--and there were a lot of 'em!

Cashmoney007
Cashmoney007

I still have some faith in Bioware but not much.  I expect DA3 to be great.  I love graphics in games, but I need more than just that!

keyb0red
keyb0red

this is good. Looking forward to DAIII

romanon5
romanon5

Dam still have to finish all DA Origins DLC's and start+finish DA2!!! lol

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

Better graphics and a more powerful engine just means shorter games, in my experience. ME4 will probably be 15 hours long, with a multiplayer focus.

They could bring out a new, massively long Bioware game every year if they just stuck to DA1 graphics or ME2 graphics, instead of "upgrading" each time. They have those engines ready and could just concentrate on creating stories that last for 100 hours each time, with tons of content, characters, places to explore, weapons to loot, minigames, etc.

The_Godfather_
The_Godfather_

"BioWare general manager says studio's upcoming titles are using DICE's latest engine"

and that means extremly high system requirements..

ammar1234
ammar1234

It's Westwood all over again

dkdk999
dkdk999

I'm personally of the opinion that ME 2 was awesome, dragon age 2 was decent, and ME 3 was horrible.

Navardo95
Navardo95

Red,Green and Blue..
..Graphics won't save a garbage game..

sune_Gem
sune_Gem

BioWare were easily one of my favourite companies in the business not too long ago. They made games that practically lived up to their original visions perfectly. Since joining EA they've made a few blunders, conveniently. However I can't help but look into and buy their games still, because surely their former greatness will come back, right, right?

Setho10
Setho10

I don't get all the comments saying the engine is Frostbite 2.5 or whatever. Have they even discussed the new features of the engine yet? Maybe it is quite different, or maybe it really is a more minor update. Hard to know because all we've seen is one video. Honestly, I doubt the difference will be nearly as big as the difference between Unreal 3 and 4 or CryEngine 2 and 3 but who knows?

embraceternity
embraceternity

@vivekraikkonen It is the end of the trilogy, in a sense. It's the end of the story we've played through, and the end of Commander Shepard. The next games will be an entirely new plot, just set in the same universe.

lasago
lasago

@MR-PERSIANGAMER  Actually, they really ARE using Frostbite 3 to develop for instance Dragon Age 3. Also, it's Frostbite 2 and NOT Frostbite 2.n, because there isn't a Frostbite 2.0 to begin with.

G-Man4ever
G-Man4ever

@krisk7 there are two sides to graphics when a game is concerned. they are importing the world physics (aka what happenes when sun ray A hits surface B, or what happens to object C when a force is applied to it), not the visual design.  for example, DOTA 2 is running on Valve's Source engine, which also powers CS:S, HL2 and a lot of other games. however the games a 2 worlds apart. same in this case, they will use the Frostbite engine, not the Battlefield design.

GothikaGeist
GothikaGeist

@romanon5  I still gotta beat DA:O and it's DLCs + DA2, and I've owned DA:O since before release...

grnsuperman4
grnsuperman4

@MooncalfReviews RPG's are great for story and gameplay. DA:O was fine for me on graphics. Give me a good story and gameplay worth my money. Give me a game I can really get into the characters like DA:O.

romanon5
romanon5

@MooncalfReviews I preffer a shorter game (took me more than 150hrs to finish Origins), and more edvenced graphics. I don't want the playability to suck or the story, but I do care much about the graphics and pretty much curious about how faces and characters and world will look like.

Albaficas
Albaficas

@The_Godfather_ if buy it on pc....

i will buy them for ps4....i wont waste my time and ofc MONEY to upgrade a pc every 3-5 years.

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

@sune_Gem Don't count on it :(

Lead writer left, 2 founders left, and they are building games based entirely on fan input now (which means they'll be dumb games).

Shango4
Shango4

@Tripwolf how does he suck?

lasago
lasago

@Shango4 @Cashmoney007  Can i assume that you say this because you've played both Origins and Dragon Age 2? And that you were thoroughly dissappointed by the latter? I understand why you would say this, but I also think that the dragon age 2 was merely a bridge in the story that they needed to get from Origins to Inquisition... This is just what I think though... Also, they really have seemed to take to heart what the fans said about the second installment and used that to make Inquisition a much better game.

Rat_King
Rat_King

@GothikaGeist DAO is one of my all time favorite games. And that's out of a lot of games. It's much better on PC, but I hear it's great on console too. It's got one of the better RPG stories IMO, at least of its decade for sure.

Moral of the story, if you like RPGs, beat it.

grnsuperman4
grnsuperman4

@Shango4 @thetarget @rabih55555 @Cashmoney007 All EA games will now have DLC and micro transactions on release. And games with an online element will have a "$15 online pass" that will be a free code packed in the game box. I have partially agree. Don't buy the game on release day. Wait until the reviews are out and you have been able to research the game to get an idea if you will like it. Personally, if the game get's good reviews, EA can still kiss my posterior. I will wait until there is an Edition that includes all DLC for $40 or under or wait for the game to be new for $20. EA has lost my $60/game patronage.

grnsuperman4
grnsuperman4

@Rat_King DA:O was one of the best RPG's I've played. LOVED it. Then DA2 went all EA mainstream and SUCKED A$$. I played DA:O all the way through 4 times. I was barely able to FORCE myself to finish DA:2. I don't care about graphics. You give me a game the same graphics as DA:O and give me story and a longer game and I'll buy them.

handofkain
handofkain

@Tripwolf @Shango4 Yeah but to create the environments, memorable characters, and animations for an awesome story would surely take much more than a year 

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

@Shango4 "well EA did give them one year to make the game."

Steven King wrote Carrie in about a week. A good story doesn't need a year, it needs a month or two.

Pulfasonic
Pulfasonic

@Tripwolf @Shango4 Considering the focus on religion and slavery in DA2, I think you're being unfair. DAO it was not, but it was still a lot more interesting than most games.

sune_Gem
sune_Gem

@Tripwolf @Shango4
That's beside the point though. You got to write a story that the devolpers can make in a year. That means you can't fill it with scenes purely for the purpose of character devolpment, or have a lot of interesting scenes that require enlonged periods of animation to pull off. It would go beyond their time constraints to make it.